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>romance between a boy and a cute girl >kissing and cuddling

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>romance between a boy and a cute girl
>kissing and cuddling

uhhh...why is this such a common theme? I'm really confused
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Why wouldn't it be
I bet there's handholding too
Damn whackjobs everywhere on the internet these days
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what planet are you from?
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>common theme.
No it isn't.
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>>116881797
>>116881787

what's the point though, are they trying to influence our behavior??
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because it's romance
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>>116881867
this is pre-programmed behavior, they don't have to
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>>116881985

humans are pre-programmed to want waifus?
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>>116882092
humans are pre-programmed to want to do sexual things with people they are sexually attracted to
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>>116882259

I mean love, not sex...where does love come in
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>>116882482
someday, if/when you find the courage to talk to the opposite sex, you'll eventually fall in love and find out for yourself
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>>116882482
>>116882482
So, you're asking...What is Love?
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>>116882606

i-is it worth it??

>>116882656

why is it so popular in anime??? what's the point
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>>116882482
Love is the urge to stay with one partner to produce more offspring and raise them to adulthood so that they too can produce and raise offspring.

Humans take longer to develop than other animals and as such need more care throughout the early years.
We call this love, and attach all sorts of nonsense to it to explain our animal urges.
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>>116881985
>Ignoring relevancy of needing to influence Japan's youth to actually make families to save country.

Oh anon
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>>116882901

is japan having a birth rate problem? is their culture harmful?
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>Ctrl+f
>"handholding"
>1 hit
Alright, I'm out.
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>>116882606
Stop talking like big shit, we are all on the same no gf and anti-3Dgirl boat.
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There should be more kissing and cuddling.
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>>116881694
>common theme
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>>116883917
uh speak for yourself fagtron kek
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>That part in the Campione LN where he has a kissing orgy with 4 girls will never be animated
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>>116884111
Wait this happened?
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>>116885939
I like the part he practically fucks Erica to infuse her with power.
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>>116884111
This is so vanilla, I'm rock hard.
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>>116887316
Kissing gives me a boner
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>>116881694
I really wish there were less romance in animu. Every other title seems like an adaptation of some shitty trope-filled LN. Nobody is trying anything new. That's why I get excited about action anime like KlK whether or not it ends up being good.

Also I've never been in a relationship and watching others kiss makes me jealous and I hate watching it. Same goes for these shows about girls in high school having the time of their lives. I want to see some MC juggling midterms and being at a funeral or something realistic. So far only authors like FKMT can replicate that feeling for me
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>>116883917
That boat sank, long ago
Or have you not noticed you're floating in the wreckage?
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>>116887556
Try actually reading romance manga that aren't shonen haremshit/shoujo shitfests
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>>116887711
Like I said I could not care less about love. Clannad and Haruhi, anything ending in -gatari, VN from type moon, if there's the slightest hint of love I immediately get disinterested
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>>116882988
I dont see why the birth rate there being low is a bad thing. Especially when we are a few centuries away from exceeding the human population capacity of the Earth
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>>116881694

do most anime viewers fantasize about romance and having girlfriends?
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>>116881694

but boys do that too!
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>>116887955

>why is low birthrate bad

because Japan is it's own country it isn't the entire planet. This means that as the population ages there won't be enough young people to support them with social security and social benefits. The debt they have is gigantic and they won't be able to service it either...

declining population spells doom for a country

>but the Earths population

Is a separate question altogether. Overpopulation is a problem of 3rd world countries who breed non-stop, have no education and don't understand what contraception is.

1st world countries, western countries are facing population declines. Which is bad for economies and welfare states.
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>>116888073

this does nothing and it looks dumb too
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>>116887556
Get the fuck out.
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>>116887556
>watching others kiss makes me jealous
Grow up and learn to stop giving a damn, son.
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>>116887989
Deep down, yes, but many seem to want to try to "fit in".
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Am I the only one who legitimately enjoyed Campione?
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>>116888257
The LNs are really good.
The anime ruined it and now there will never be a season 2.
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>>116881694
It's a pretty basic human instinct OP.
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>>116888257
It was pretty underwhelming, I felt, but holy fuck dem kissing scenes.
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Post spiderman
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>>116888195
Regardless, even if I ignore it, all the shows seem like the same thing to me. Only when emerging from despair can characters be worth rooting for, at least in my opinion. Like, a show about some guy who tells his life story from a prison cell. I've probably read about five Manga in total with adult protagonists.
And am I the only one who hates waifus here? I've acknowledged I'll never be with a girl, like why even fucking think about it?
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>>116888098
> 1st world countries, western countries are facing population declines.
That's natural. I don't understand the world's perversion with immigration to artificially, and temporarily inflate native numbers. The only way population decline can be 'corrected', is to either create high procreational pressures (e.g. 3rd world countries, pressures for both father and mother to create a large base of male children so that they can care for you in your old age), or overincentivize it socially (already disincentivized, stable monogamous marriages are dead) or economically (not economically feasible) in a positive fashion.

Simply put, we don't *need* this many people in our country, but we artificially inflate our numbers, which only serves to stave it off briefly unless the standard of living fails markedly as well (which happens when stringent immigration standards are dissolved).
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>>116887556
M-maybe we could take eachothers kissing virginity anon
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>>116884111

pls no more
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>>116887316
thats about the least vanilla kiss i've ever seen
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>>116888757
I doubt it.
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>>116882656
Baby don't hurt me.
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>>116881694
At a glance I thought that was two guys. Am I gay now?
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>>116888880
>now
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>>116888706
You'll probably just think I'm a "softie" and leave like they did.
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>>116889405
we'll never know unless we try
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>>116884111
What anime is this?
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>>116887556
There's very little romance in anime.

Unless you count awkward blushing, interrupted confessions and "EH? NANDATTE?" as romance, which you shouldn't.
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>>116884111
That's beautiful, why the fuck doesn't this happen more often?
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>>116893455
it makes otaku nervous
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>>116892999
Campione!
I'm only telling you because I enjoyed it a lot.
>>116893413
Yes, its more the tension of romance so you can have the girls acting cute and stuff.
>>116893455
Because japan doesn't like consummation and thrives on the tension.
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>>116884111
Why does this make me so hard?
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>>116893619
cause you're a filthy pervert
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Do not respond to tumblrshit threads. Tell them to fuck off, sage and report.
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>>116893655
Vanilla is pure!
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>>116894493
chaika is a slut
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>>116888257
Theres an anon who comes to most /a/ events with a shrine dedicated to Erica.

Look for the picture, it was actually kind of sweet.
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>>116893687
that what
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>>116885939
So who is the King of the End?
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>>116881694
>>116881867
>>116884111
>empty shallow make out sessions with every girl in the series for pandering purposes
>romantic
Pick one.
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>>116896247
>empty shallow make out sessions

Did we watch the same show?
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>>116881694
>common theme
If only.
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>>116897080
We she did. Because that sure as hell is not depth or romantic.
You're just stupid enough to think kissing = romantic. It doesn't. Those are shallow, feeling-less, plot forced make out sessions that mean nothing.
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>>116897175
>we sure did*
Fucking phone.
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>>116886731
hat the flying fuck? if theyre going to make hentai then make it properly. this only gives me a chub
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>>116897175
>feeling-less
>Plot forced
You don't kiss like that if you don't have any feelings. That kiss is passion incarnate.
Look at that lip deflowering, that heavy breathing, THAT HAND HOLDING.
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>>116897080
is this strike the blood?
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>>116885939
Does he kiss his sister at some point? Or the sister of the priestess?
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>>116882988
>>116882901
Otaku are not numerically relevant when talking about Japan and their low birth are a combination of no immigration (european birth rate wouldn't be much higher without immigration if I remember right) and their society as a whole, with men not wanting to marry because of the pressure of being a husband and women don't want to marry because they are supposed to stop working as soon as they are married.

Anime has no impact on Japanese low birth rates and talking like it does is moves the attention from the real problem to something easy to blame for.
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>>116897259
So you understand you're reading fiction? You god damn retarded. They can kiss in any fashion whatsoever, and have it still mean nothing.
You know how you know that kiss is empty and shallow? Because he turns around and does similar, similar not the same, things with other girls almost moments later.

It's cheap, shallow pandering meant to appeal to retards like you who think shallow expressions like that are romantic.
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>>116897450
Nope, but from what it seems his sister has her own servants too.
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>>116897504
>Because he turns around and does similar, similar not the same, things with other girls almost moments later.
You sound like a woman.
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>>116897504
I dunno, maybe because in the east kissing is viewed as something rare and exotic, even though it's nothing special?

just like that Terra from FF, her original name, Tina, are exotic to those japanese
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You are the cutest OP ever
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>>116897080
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>>116897573
Or someone with logic.
>lol tumblr feminist
Nope. Just someone who's not shallow and retarded.
>>116897602
And that changes anything how? It's still just empty kiss pandering that means nothing at all. It's cheap story telling and clearly not romantic.
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>>116897754
>Or someone with logic.
>Nope. Just someone who's not shallow and retarded.
Nah, you still sound like a woman.
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>>116897782
Great argument. You sure proved my points about fictional story telling perception wrong.
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>>116887556
you belong here
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>>116897868
No I didn't. I just said you sound like a woman.
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>>116897352
How do you guys have such great google search?

Do you just search "anime guy kissing girl bleeding" or some shit?
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>>116897896
Okay then. Good job, I guess.
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>>116897504
>You know how you know that kiss is empty and shallow? Because he turns around and does similar, similar not the same, things with other girls almost moments later.
You mean it's not possible to love more than one person?
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>>116897925
something obviously isn't as special if multiple people have it.

I hardly see how you'd have to be or think like a woman to see that
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>>116897965
>something obviously isn't as special if multiple people have it.
That's some shitty logic.
If everyone had it would be one thing. But if only a select group has it, it can still be special.
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>>116888098
>a country with 120 million living citizens
>ever having trouble with their declining population
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>>116897745
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>>116898004
>win olyimpic event
>get your gold medal
>suddenly see them giving identical gold medals to 2nd 3rd and even 4th place
>you all have to stand on equal height platforms
>news outlets and the official records don't show you as getting first, just "top 4"
>hurr it's just shitty woman logic if you get upset over that
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>>116897925
Not equally, especially not in this case.
It is literally nothing but haremfag pandering.
>all these girls wants me dick
>and they're all cool with it
>best orgies evuur
The lowest brow of wish fulfillment.
Plus this >>116897965
>>116898004
Nope, that logic is spot on if you're not an idiot and think with only your dick. Romantic love is defined as something between two people, not a group of people.
Much less a bunch of female who are forced to compromise and share the person they like for sake of polygamy fantasies of the reader.
It's not special "love" if you have it for multiple people, because all said love that's spread out could be directed at a single person.
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>>116881694
>Huh? Isn't that normal?
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ITT: mad anon, jealous of what he'll never have
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>>116898086
>>win olyimpic event
>>get your gold medal
But tons of other people already have gold medals?
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>>116898060
>>116898086
>posting anime reaction pics
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>>116888849
Don't hurt me, no more.
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>>116898116
plenty of people are in love too doesn't mean it feels less special if 1 particular person that you love exclusively does't exclusively love you back

but fine, if you want to be THAT faggot
>win hypothetical universe wide once in eternity competion
>get your special universe gold medal
>suddenly see them giving identical special universe medals to 2nd 3rd and even 4th place
>you all have to stand on equal height platforms
>news outlets and the official records don't show you as getting first, just "top 4"
>hurr it's just shitty woman logic if you get upset over that
filthy communists who never accomplish anything in their lives and don't understand what it means to work hard or improve yourself or accomplish things need to leave


>>116898158
>katawa shoujo
>anime
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>>116898107
That's cool. I could be red in the face with rage. It still wouldn't change anything about what's said, or the objective points made. Self-insert haremfag are the worst cancer in anime.
>>116898116
>double arrow quoting
Ignorant newshit, automatically wrong about whatever you think.
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>>116898243
Keep being figuratively assmad, you jealous manbaby.
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>>116887556
Romance has been shoehorned into stories since forever ago.

It's not unique to anime and you're never going to get rid of it.
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>>116898086
That's not a competition
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>>116898086
You're only going to cause yourself massive heartbreak thinking like this. You can't help but love many people, just as your most beloved can't help either. And you're very likely going to get bored and lose all passion you have for one person when you're with them long enough. When you're old enough that sex doesn't matter that much, and you just want a companion for life, then you can settle with your forever-and-always. But while you're young it's normal and completely all right to want to tenderly love multiple people. You can't expect one person to only have their eyes on you either. Don't set yourself up for such pain. Learn to move on, let go, have fun. Love and be loved, and love life, enjoy every moment of your youth. Don't hold it against someone for loving someone else, love is nothing but a positive thing. Jealousy is nothing but destructive.

If only I could practice what I preach
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>>116898234
>>116898243
Clearly, you two aren't man enough to give enough of your love to more than one woman equally.
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>implying people are prizes to be won
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>>116898265
>figuratively assmad
I kind of laughed at that one.
Either way. It changes nothing about how pathetic harem fags are.
>>116898304
Let me summarize your whole post in a few words.
>mine feelings for people are cheap and shallow so everyone else must be this way
Sorry that's not how it really is. You're about the same as a cheap bar whore who fucks the guy who buys them a drink because they think they're in love.
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>>116898304
Maybe you think that way but that doesn't mean everybody does. "Specialness" is ultimately an emotion and everyone will feel them differently.

I hate to play the "lonley virgins" cards but I can't help but imagine if more of you had real meaningful relationships instead of cartoon fantasies you'd understand.
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>>116887989
No, I fantasize about getting off kami-sama's wild ride.
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>>116898332
Nope, not how it works. Because if you can divide your love that means you're not giving all of it to a single other person. Meaning other people are getting slighted as well, and being forced to share.
>>116898373
Not what's being said at all. Good job being retarded. Harem fags on the other hand think girls are there to collect. "It's okay if I love them all". Problem is that "love" is shallow and cheap.
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>>116898443
There is literally nothing wrong with sharing
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>>116898414
>>116898384
All I can do when I read the posts of you two is think to myself: these people are hopelessly naive. I wish I was hopelessly naive.
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>>116898463
>haremfags actually think this
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>>116898384
It's pretty shallow of you that you can't comprehend the vastness and fluidity of human emotion. Having multiple lovers doesn't diminish the intensity or realness of any of them. It may not be for you but you're only depriving yourself of wonderful relationships, and hurting yourself by having these expectations for other people.
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>>116898482
>I wish I was hopelessly naive.
This post is just too ironic for me to come up with a joke or snarky remark.
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>>116898463
No, there is. Especially when it's all one sided so one person can have polgomy fetishes fulfilled. And again, the text book definition of romantic love is something shared by two people.
>>116898482
All I can do when I read posts like this is think to myself; these people are clearly retarded and don't understand how they're points have been countered so they fill a post with mostly meaningless words that don't continue the argument.

Face it. You're wrong. You've had nothing but cheap feelings.
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>>116898536
I feel certain you could have if you really, really tried.
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>>116898542
Woah there, I'm not the guy you've been arguing with. Chillax.
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>kissless virgins talking about love as if they actually know anything about it
You fuckers are golden.
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>>116898516
>slut mentality
Yeah. it actually does. If you're not depraved and shallow that is. There's a reason cheating is considered bad. It's because if really feelings for someone they will prevent you from wanting to fuck someone else. Faithfulness is something that's clearly lost to you.
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>>116898552
No, there's really nothing. Since you live exclusively in your own imagination where your harem of anime girls all love you for no reason and have no issue with being shared, nothing I can say will ever piece into your world.
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>>116898589
It's only cheating if there isn't consent on all parties.
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>>116898573
It doesn't matter if you're the only person. If you're taking the other side in the argument then the points apply to you as well.
>>116898586
>I can't make a real argument so I'll just reply to no one in thread and pretend I'm right
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>>116898482
The irony in this post is a palpable, physical thing that has gained it's own form of sentience.
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>>116898594
>harem of anime girls love me
W-what? When did I say this?
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>>116884111
>waited 4 to 5 episodes for her kiss
>they spent 2 minutes of screentime at it
Truly the climax of the show. Spiderman kiss was fine too.
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>>116898630
you didn't need to
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>>116898443
>Harem fags on the other hand think girls are there to collect. "It's okay if I love them all". Problem is that "love" is shallow and cheap.
You clearly don't understand.
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>>116898602
Yeah, you missed the entire second half of that post. Even if you're an idiot and don't care about cheating and slighting other people. Romantic love by nature is not something to be shared. Only shallow version of it are meant to be shared. Because if the love can be split then it also could have all been directed at one person.
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>>116898628
I'm not taking the other side of the argument. What i've gotten out of your posts is that love is this magical, amazing, special thing that only comes along for your "chosen one".
That was how I interpreted it, anyway.
I read your posts and remembered a time when I thought that way, too.

>>116898647
Strawman, etc, etc
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>>116898693
It's what either you think or subconscious rationalizes. You also made no argument at all other than 'UR RONG!".
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Time to add one more thing to the list of things I can't discuss on /a/ anymore.
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>>116898698
Love isn't a limited resource so giving it to more than one person won't make it smaller.
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>>116898766
time and effort are though.
and if somebody isn't willing to give you as much of those as they possibly can (like by splitting it between multiple people) then they clearly don't love you as much as they could
or at least, that they don't love you as much as you love them.
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>>116898750
Different person here, but I'd just like to interject for a moment.
Why can't I love four women just as much as you love one?
Is there some barrier preventing me from doing so?
I believe that the human mind is a very powerful tool, capable of many absurd things. If I had enough passion, why couldn't I love four women the same amount that you love one?

>>116898765
Did you think that discussing love with kissless virgins would go well?
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>>116898731
No, I don't think it's a "chosen one" type thing. I STATED it's a concept where the real feelings are not shallow and something that can applied to many people. If you can love multiple people at once you're clearly not giving all of yourself to a single other person. Again, see my points about faithfulness.
>>116898766
Yeah, it actually is. Notice how pologmy is illegal all countries that aren't third world. I shouldn't need to explain common sense further than that.
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>>116898870
your new argument is
>everybody does it so it must be good
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>>116898859
>Did you think that discussing love with kissless virgins would go well?
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>>116898859
>Did you think that discussing love with kissless virgins would go well?
I expected nothing and yet I'm still disappointed.
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>>116898859
>Why can't I love four women just as much as you love one?
How about you try actually loving 1 just to get started and see how things go from there
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>>116898086
Teams can win gold medals.
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>>116898929
I did, actually. I poured my heart and soul into her.
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>>116898859
Because you're clearly retarded don't even understand what this base concept is about. This is not about you vs me. If you have that much "passion" it could all be directed at one person rather than four. Love is about being faithful and true, not about how much you have. By definition you can give one person your undivided love it's directed at multiple people.
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>>116898967
>If you have that much "passion" it could all be directed at one person rather than four.
Isn't having too much passion also bad?
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>>116898967
No, passion is a human construct. It's an intangible object.
Therefore, I can have as much or as little passion as I want.
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>>116898897
Nope, that's actually not what it is. You're just not smart enough to read past face value. But the funny part is, that's not even the face value, so you don't get it at all.
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>>116898988
Okay, let's break this down.
>Notice how polygamy is illegal in all countries that aren't third world.
>Look, this thing isn't allowed in places that aren't shitholes. That makes it inherently bad!
>Everybody else isn't doing it, why should you?
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>>116898979
His example unrealistic, I was accommodating.
>>116898987
Can you not fucking read at all?
>Love is about being faithful and true, not about how much you have

Great, you're a wild animal with tons of passion that can fuck four women in a row and not go limp? Awesome, that still doesn't mean anything. It just means you're not giving real love to anyone person.
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>>116898967
>Love is about being faithful and true
Opinion.
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>this much normalfaggotry in this thread
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>>116899054
But why love has to be with one person?
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>>116898964
uh huh
and of course you were perfectly ok with her spending time with, kissing and even fucking other men because passion is infinite right


reallyI look forward to reading more of your fanfiction
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>>116899054
See, I was equating passion with love, which is also a human construct. I suppose I should have been clearer.
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>>116899033
Still missing it. Best part is you just exampled how stupid you are in other ways, too. You;re not even smart enough to figure out how to green text correctly. Meaning you're new and not smart enough to pick up on simple social cues.
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>>116899054
>It just means you're not giving real love to anyone person.
Real love is subjective.
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>>116898967
>If you have that much "passion" it could all be directed at one person rather than four
Some people get rather sick of that reaaaal fast though.

Hell, it might go yandere tier if it's only one person.
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>>116899074
My current relationship actually allows for me to fuck as many men as I want, and my partner to fuck as many women as she wants. I love her with every fiber of my being, though. I don't have tits for her to grope, and she doesn't have a dick for me to suck. We simply get half our sexual needs elsewhere.

That doesn't mean we don't love each other.
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>>116899074
Yes, I was, though I longed for more.
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>>116898967
>Love is about being faithful and true
Did get that from a shoujo manga?
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>>116899068
>everything is an opinion
>I can be a slut if I want
Nope, fuck off haremfag.
>>116899071
Google it. Literally google it. It's in the definition.
If you're not giving all your attention and love to one person then they are being slighted if that's what they're giving to you.

a relationship is not built on the concept of multiple people making a compromise so one person can be happy.
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>>116899090
Nice ad hominem.
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>>116888257
The show was kinda crap but nowhere unwatchable.
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>>116899149
This whole discussion then is over the concept of what is love.
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>>116899149
>Google it. Literally google it. It's in the definition.
I'm googling it but nowhere does it state love can only be with one person.
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>>116899155
Nope. That's not what ad hominem means. Way to show one more thing you're ignorant about.
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>>116899174
Okay?
>>116899182
Search better than. This isn't tough.
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>>116899122
>I love her with every fiber of my being,
Besides the fibers you use loving other people
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>>116899183
ad ho·mi·nem
ˌad ˈhämənəm/
adverb & adjective
adverb: ad hominem; adjective: ad hominem

1.
(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
"vicious ad hominem attacks"

>You're just stupid!
>You don't have common sense!
>You're just new!
>You can't pick up on social cues!
I know I'm just being trolled at this point, but please, please point out how your response is not attacking me and not my argument.
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>>116899208
I'm looking, but every definition I find simply states "a feeling of strong or constant affection for a person" which doesn't imply it can only be with one person.
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>>116899182
>definition of a completely subjective concept
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>>116898414
I can't say I've ever been in a relationship myself, due to shyness and orientation issues. And despite my flowery words I actually feel the same way as you guys - jealousy consumes me every day because I'm so infatuated with one of my friends. She makes me feel like we have a little something special because of the nature of our friendship, it's hard to explain. But then there's her boyfriend and all her little classmate crushes. It kills me.

But I know how I feel is incredibly stupid and self-destructive, and I should let go. But what I know from my friends is that having multiple loves is still completely genuine - one of them, who has a history of promiscuity, took a break from her boyfriend last year and had a thing with another guy at our school. They were sweet as fuck and she still loves him, but they stay as friends now. Because she loves her boyfriend more than anyone, and he knows that. He's aware of how she is and what she's done, but he understands her feelings and loves her to death. It's complicated. People are complicated.

The one I'm crazy about tends to get a new boyfriend every year, but is 100% faithful while she has them. She just has flirty crushes on some of our classmates, and keeps cute but innocent friendships with them. Like me

Believe me, I have had incredibly mixed emotions about what they do. I've had the typical 4chan gut reactions of thinking of them as sluts. I know I'm the type that will end up with somebody and never leave them. But I KNOW that all the intricate relationships my friends have are genuine and amazing, and each one of them is special. I envy them for having lives filled with romance and love.

>bitches and whores
I know. The only point I want to make is that just because it's not a star crossed lovers, you're-my-one-and-only-forever kind of deal, doesn't mean that a romance is shallow and not passionate. Sex alone isn't even shallow. It can be fleeting, but it can still be deep.
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>>116899231
>Implying you need love to have sex or kiss other people.
If we both accept it and love each other just the same, whats the problem?
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>>116899079
It doesn't matter if you meant passion or love.
If you can't love one person wholly if you love multiple people.
>>116899095
It's not. It's a chemical reaction.
>>116899105
Again, his example is unrealistic.
>>116899127
Where are you getting yours from? Harem manga where fucking every girl is perfectly normal?
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>>116898443
>if you can divide your love
Love is not something that is divisible.
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>>116899182
Dude, that's what this entire argument is about. We're discussing what the meaning of a subjective concept is.
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>>116899271
>It's a chemical reaction.
Which I can feel for multiple people, equal amounts.

Just because I love 2 people, does not mean my love would increase for 1 person by dropping the other.
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>Trying to describe what love is.
This will never end.
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>>116899271
No, it does matter if I meant passion or love.
No, actually, it doesn't, because they are both intangible things that don't exist. Can you only have a limited number of thoughts? Ideas? Friends? Theoretical mathematical equations?

>>116899330
No shit, but the more we argue, the better I can undermine their argument, and the more I can feel like I've won.
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>>116899122
So you love her just enough to want to fuck dozens of other people. Sure sounds like a normal and healthy relationship.
>retards think they can make outlandish examples to prove their points about normal people
>>116899237
That's impressive. You can look at the definition and still not know what it means. It's not just insulting people. ad hominem is when you dismiss an argument on a personal trait such as race. You're argument is not being dismissed because of who you are, it's being dismissed because you proved through objective actions they are you stupid.
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>>116899349
>ad hominem is when you dismiss an argument on a personal trait
Such as you perceiving me as stupid?

Also,
>You are argument
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>>116899349
But sex doesn't mean love. You can fuck other people and not love them.
Our relationship is very healthy.
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>>116899289
Love is something that is divisible.
Love is chemical reactions in the brain, as someone already pointed out.
It can be assigned a value.
Therefore, it can be divided.
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>>116899289
>Love is not something that is divisible.
Exactly.
>>116899302
Actually that's exactly what it would mean because it would mean you stop giving attention and affection to the other person. You can't give two people your undivided attention at once.
>>116899346
You can only have one best friend, you can only have one person you love with all your heart. Because all, and best have a limitation of one.
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>>116899387
>healthy
Ha-ha!
Enjoy your STDs.
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>>116899422
You can only have one best _____, because of that word you attached to it. If you said:
>You can only have one best lover
I'd agree with you.
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This thread is full of crossboardfags, most of all OP. Explain to me why haven't you reported it yet. Explain to me why OP hasn't been called out for ellipsis and excessive punctuation. Fuck weekend /a/.
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>>116899380
Nope. You are stupid because of the actions you took. Not "just because ur dum". You took actions that proved you're stupid. Such as not being able to pick up on simple social ques. Tell a person who can't solve 2+2 he's smart.
>>116899387
Romantic love is only romantic because it has a sexual attraction as well. Sex and romantic love are one hand in hand. Which is why if you fuck people you don't love it cheapens the relationship. Which is why cheating is bad because it means you don't love the person enough not to fuck someone else.
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>>116899422
Why does someone need all your undivided attention? Maybe you're that needy but not everyone is

And I have 3 best friends. They're equally important to me. They're as important as my family. All my family is equally important to me. All our relationships are different though. But they're all just as important as the other in my life.
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>>116899422
>that's exactly what it would mean
Does the love you feel for someone not fluctuate? For instance, if the object of your affection were to present to you a handmade something amazing you've always wanted, or look into your eyes and profess their love for you, or stand up for you in front of their friends, wouldn't you have stronger feelings towards them then than you would when you were, say, at work, away from them?
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>>116899477
>implying mods do shit nowadays
It's already too late to do anything.
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>>116899422
>You can't give two people your undivided attention at once.
Says who?

Does love work in perencentages?

Isn't it a chemical reaction in the brain?
If so, who is to say I don't feel the same amount for each person?
Who is to say, if I dropped a person, my love would suddenly increase for the other?

Say I love two people.

I fall out of love for Love B, but that doesn't mean my love for Love A increases.
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>>116899477
>>116899521
Yeah, basically. Nobody is really doing anything horribly against the rules. OP is a fucking moron, agreed, but he has long since left the thread, or stopped pretending to be from tumblr.
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>>116899473
That's great. Not reread my post about how a loving relationship is not built around multiple people compromising. Even if you think you can love multiple people equally why should two other people have to love only you when you love two people.

That's not real love, that bargaining
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>>116899563
>that's not real love, that's bargaining
>bargaining
Just like all human relationships!
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>>116899508
>Which is why if you fuck people you don't love it cheapens the relationship.
Opinion.

I love my partner sexually and romantically, that doesn't mean our relationship is any better or worse because we have sex with other people. We both embrace it.
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>>116899508
>because it means you don't love the person enough not to fuck someone else.
No, it's not that cut and dry. Not everybody is disciplined. You may not want to hurt that person, that desire to protect them and not hurt them may be stronger than anything you've ever felt - but how many times have you betrayed your own desires for something stupid? I let myself down all the time. I wanted to finish this project tonight more than anything. But instead I shitposted on 4chan, which I really didn't want to do.
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>>116899601
>opinion
This is basically what it boils down to.
Literally everything is subjective in every possible way.
What one person calls love, another could call stabbing them in the chest with a kitchen knife a dozen times.
It's kind of silly that you people are attempting to seriously argue about this.
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>>116899510
Did you jump into this conversation late, or do you just have no memory at all? Undivided is the concept of being whole. The original point was that the feelings are cheap. If something is not whole it is less than it could be. Less for for synonymous for cheap.
You're just slut who only has cheap feelings.
>>116899518
I have no idea what you're trying to say. Even if it's changing it should all still be directed at one person. We'e already been over it's not about how much.
>>116899533
My other replies is this post pretty much answer everything you've said. You added nothing new.
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I hope you all find someone who loves you very much and I hope you never feel the need to argue about what love means with them
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>>116899672
>it's not about how much
Then why can't it be divided equally among multiple parties?
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Just fuck already, you faggots.
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>>116899709
>3dpd
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>>116899655
>It's kind of silly that you people are attempting to seriously argue about this.
You do understand that if it had an objective definition, there'd be no argument in the first place.
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>>116899672
No, I'm still arguing that love can't be "whole" or "divided" and whatever the fuck else you're going on about

Love is only cheap if you only love them a bit. If you only like them for their looks, or their money, or imagined personality traits etc etc
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>>116899739
Anons are 2.25D.
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>That one fag who thinks his opinion is correct about love on an anime imageboard
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>>116899672
>you're just a slut who only has cheap feelings
>We've already been over it's not about how much
So which is it?
Do you want rich feelings or cheap feelings?
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>>116899588
That's not what all relationships are. You're an idiot.
>>116899601
No, it's not an opinion and in that post I exampled way. You can make all the hypotheticals you want but they doesn't change anything. Of course you can make up a counter situation on the spot, that doesn't prove anything about real people.
>I am superman and my dick is 12' long
See, I just said words too. Doesn't make them true.
>>116899625
And now we come back to the feelings being cheap. You're feelings are so cheap and shallow that they can't even stop you from doing something bad. Strong feelings and motivation will prevent you from doing bad things such as cheating or fucking around.
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>>116899760
>one
I think you mean pretty much everyone in this argument
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>>116899751
Well, yes, but that would be boring.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktbhw0v186Q


has this seriously not been posted yet?
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>>116899767
>relationships aren't bargaining
>most relationships are on a give and take basis

>>116899773
No, I think it's just a few people attempting to define what "love" is. Everyone else is telling them that's not what "love" is.
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>>116899758
>2.25d
So we're 3/4s of the way into the realm of anime?
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>>116899751
It does have an objective definition.
>>116899697
>>116899764
Because it is not a matter of amount. The concept of being whole. Some person my not be capable of expressing a lot of love. But if they direct what love they do have at the a single person then it is not cheap because they giving them the 'whole'. As opposed to someone who say, has a lot of love and if giving to multiple people.
The important part is the concept of whole mitigating what is cheap.
>>116899754
>you can love some a little bit
>but it has no amount that can be divided
You're an idiot, and a hypocrite.
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>>116899865
Yes. But we will never go any further.
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>>116899865
That's one way of looking at it.
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>>116899882
>love has an objective definition
pffthahahahaha
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>>116899821
Do you understand the difference between one person taking two 'wholes' from two people and only giving back one 'halfs' to each?
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>>116899891
oh.
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>>116899882
>Because it is not a matter of amount.
>The concept of being whole
But if something has a ''whole'' that means there is an ''amount''
are you fucking retarded
If someone has a lot or a little love, those are amounts.
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>>116899900
A+ argument.
Love is subjective. But that does not mean it's not also objective.

I bet you're retarded enough to think both 'good' and 'like' mean the same thing.
>MUH OPINION
Nope. Just because you like something doesn't make it good.
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>>116899923
I keep trying to explain to you that love isn't a limited resource. Love is an intangible, human construct with subjective meaning, but you don't seem to get that either, meaning that I can take two wholes from two people and give back eight "wholes" to each of them.
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>>116899923
>Do you understand the difference between one person taking two 'wholes' from two people and only giving back one 'halfs' to each?
But why is it like that? What basis do you have to say it works like that?

Personally, my love works like this.
>>116899533

Both are loved equal amounts. Even if I stopped loving one, I'd love the other just the same.
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>>116899945
>Just because you like it doesn't make it good
I dunno where this came from. I could apply the same thing to your argument.
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>>116899821
>No, I think it's just a few people attempting to define what "love" is. Everyone else is telling them that's not what "love" is.
Well I don't think it can ever truly be defined. And it especially can't be defined as incorrect.

But it seems like a simple fact that the large majority of people in the world do NOT like being shared or cheated on. If you're cool with open relationships and can find other people into that then thats great for all of you.

But if you're with a typical, average person and you're unfaithful I don't think you can blame them for feeling hurt and being angry at you.

Thats my 2 cents, but I doubt it will end or even slow down any arguments going on here.
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>>116899933
>But if something has a ''whole'' that means there is an ''amount''
Did you fail highschool math? Do you not understand what an abstract concept is? Or how to measure in relative?
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>>116899983
Same could be said to you.

Just because something is giving out two wholes, does not mean they are divided.
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>>116899979
>this post
What a reasonable, open minded stance on a subjective topic.
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>>116899979
I don't mean to be a downer here, but you added absolutely nothing with that post.
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>>116899979
>definition can't be incorrect
Well, let me clarify.
They're attempting to ram their definition of love down everyone else's throat.
Very reminiscent of religionfags.
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If a suitably hot guy forcefully deep-kissed me out of nowhere I'd probably look as flustered at that, even if I have zero romantic feelings for him.
no homo
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>>116884111
Now my heart is having a boner and my boner is having a heart attack. We need more anime with this kind of shit. Way more.
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>>116900039
It's not like this discussion is gaining any ground in any direction anyway.
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>>116899953
It can't though. No matter what you say. You can't give two wholes. It's impossible.
>>116899969
That's because your feelings are cheap by nature one never meant much.

How about this. When's the last time you read a "muh epic love story" novel about how the people shared their love and settled down in a threesome? Never? That's right. Because that's not how it works.
>>116899978
Actually you're a fucking moron beyond compare. This argument has nothing to do with what you like. And the point was being that you don't understand how subjectively works. Opinions do not rules everything.
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>>116900073
>When's the last time you read a "muh epic love story" novel about how the people shared their love and settled down in a threesome?
Those exist, though.
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Actually i'm kinda interested with some guy who said love is chemical reaction. Can someone provide me the citation for this? What kind of reaction is it? What's the trigger? How that happen?
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>>116900039
Well maybe thats the point. That there isn't anything to add. Everybody has their own unique set of thought and feelings that they alone experience and can understand. Trying to force your own thoughts and feelings onto them isn't going to change them and probably just lead to lots of anger and conflict.
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>>116899979
>But it seems like a simple fact that the large majority of people in the world do NOT like being shared or cheated on. If you're cool with open relationships and can find other people into that then thats great for all of you.
This all still means they have cheap and shallow feelings.
>>116900005
>Just because something is giving out two wholes, does not mean they are divided
Actually it does.
There is mathematical concept that defines giving out two wholes. Not single one. Feel free to source something that says otherwise if you can.
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>>116900073
>You can't give two wholes. It's impossible.
Yes, you can.
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>>116900097
>Trying to force your own thoughts and feelings onto them isn't going to change them and probably just lead to lots of anger and conflict.
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>>116900073
>opinions do not rule everything
Except they do.
Remember when I said that what love was to one person was to another person stabbing them in the heart six times with a kitchen knife? You know that whole thing about "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder"? It's like that, except replace the word "beauty" with anything at all.

>>116900094
I remember reading an article about it at some point. Google "the science of love" and you should find it. It was pretty interesting.
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>>116900088
They don't. Or feel free to post one.
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>>116900114
If I give two apple pies to two people, the apple pies are not divided. They are separate pies for separate people.
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>>116900147
https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/threesome
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>>116900137

>>116900147
That's what happened in one of the School Days ends.

I haven't read the LN for Maou Yuusha, but that's the direction it's headed in last I checked.
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>>116899767
>Strong feelings and motivation will prevent you from doing bad things such as cheating or fucking around.
Life is not a shonen. People aren't that perfect. A feeling can consume someones body and soul but they can still betray it because we're humans and shit happens.

>>116899882
You know what I mean. "A bit" as in not very deeply. You can love 50 people deeply. Deep as FUCK. You can kinda-sorta love another 50 people. Like meh. It's not being divided. It's just what each of these people make you feel. How each of you relate. Blah blah blah we're saying the same things over and over, and you're obviously the type that will NEVER give up an argument, just like you think someone should NEVER love anybody but their lover. Pure stubbornness - but don't confuse stubborn loyalty with genuine feelings passion, affection, and appreciation. Loyalty is crucial but it doesn't MEAN love.

This isn't going anywhere and I need to sleep
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>>116900153
But the pies are made of the same ingredients. You could have baked it all into 1 bigger pie. The 2 pies are thus still halves in the sense they contain 1/2 of what you were capable of.
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>>116900124
No, you can't.
If you can't add anything to argument just don't post. Moron.
>>116900144
We're done here then. If you are honestly stupid enough to think opinions matter, then you don't deserve to talk. And that's this a problem in the first place. Just because something is liked doesn't mean it's good. Example? Naruto.
>>116900153
Then you have tow whole apples pies, you fucking moron.
When you have one apple pie you can't give that whole single apple pie to two people.
>but muh love can make two apple pies!!!
No. It can't.
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>>116900216
How do you know I didn't clone the pies? I only had enough ingredients for one but by cloning it I can give it to multiple people.
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>>116900232
You're back to this just because you like it doesn't mean it's good thing again. I don't know why you think this applies to the discussion.
>we're done here
okay.
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>>116900243
This argument is just getting better and better.
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>>116900232
>When you have one apple pie you can't give that whole single apple pie to two people.
You can if you clone it.

Checkmate, loser.
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>>116900137
I just feel all this arguing isn't good for people.
Obviously I can't force them to stop and maybe some of them enjoy it but I just want to help some who haven't considered the non-conflict route.
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>You can only love one person
>You can either love your mother or father.
>When you get a gf your love for other people goes away.
>There is no such thing as polyamory
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>>116900265
Which is more exciting?
>Sitting back and giving shit to other civilizations so they don't declare war on you
>give people so much of your stuff they think you're the coolest dude around
>eventually get diplomatic victory
Or
>Steamrolling over everybody else through sheer military power and superior tactics
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>>116900276
I don't think the familial love and passionate love are the same thing
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>>116900243
You could break down the 2 pies and combine them into a larger single pie. The cloning itself is still a resource you have at your disposal that you aren't wholly giving to a single person.

So you're still only giving half of your full potential to each person.
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>>116900179
>1700 results out of millions of books out there
>all low rated compared to others
>>116900192
>school days
>muh epic love story
Pick one. I didn't say pull a random threesome ending out of your ass.
>>116900199
And do you know what happens when people betray each other? Feelings are broken and cheap. Obviously one feelings was stronger than the other. So if you feelings leads you to do something bad, than that feelings is stronger than your feeling of love. Thus meaning it was cheap in comparisons.
So what if you didn't really want to do the bad thing. That was still wrong of you and proved something about your feelings.

And for your second part. Again. Hypotheticals don't mean anything.
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>>116900326
I could give as many pies to either person as they wanted, because I can simply clone them. There is no limit to the pies, the pies are infinite like my love.
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>>116900343
I mean, you might not consider School Days a
>muh epic love story
but what's keeping me from thinking it is?
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>>116899979
Reasonable post.
>typical, average person
Which most animu girls aren't and was the whole reason this started.
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>>116900319
Neither. Science victory is best victory.
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>>116900343
>muh epic love story
Kind of a subjective/vague something you're looking for there, hm?
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>>116900256
Because. The mentality you carry is that anything can be good as long as your opinion supports it. But your personal opinion can not support shit on an objective level. And if you don't understand that there is no reasoning with you.
>>116900261
Clones are only copies of the original. Good job giving someone a fake love pie. Plus clones don't love as long.
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>>116881694
>common

If anything there's not enough kissing cuddling and other heart failure inducing affectionate developments.
Too many shows obsessed with facade of innocence or platonic relationships.
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>>116900319
I said some people might enjoy it. But some people might be getting needlessly angry and I just want them to know they have the option to not hurt themselves.
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>>116900401
My clones are perfect. So perfect, in fact, you can't tell them apart.

Much like my love for two people.
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>>116900390
Usually you have to give some shit to other people so they don't fuck you in the ass while you're teching your way to the space age, which is almost functionally the same thing as dip victory.

Or split your resources and make some military too, which slows down your trip to Alpha Centurai.
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>>116900374
Because again, this is not a subjective matter.
Not everything under the fucking sun is subjective.
>muh true love
Mikoto cheats on girls multiple times, fucks them then says says he doesn't like them anymore.
Fuck a guy at one point.
True love, amirite?
>>116900392
Romeo and Juliet-esque
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>>116900413
I'M GOING TO NEEDLESSLY HURT MYSELF AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME
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>>116900390
Cultural victory is superior
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>>116900425
See the last line of >>116900326
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>>116900477
>romeo and juilet
Fucking awful story, worst Shakespearean piece, jesus christ why would anyone ever think this tripe was good.
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>>116900477
>Romeo and Juliet-esque
That lasts a short time with many people dead?
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>>116900480
>being an artfag
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>>116900539
Enjoy your riots
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>>116900357
Well now you're just jumping your analogy from real life examples to hypothetical concepts with no clear rules.

I can't disprove your love is infinite, but here in reality theres only a finite number things you can give or do to people.

And as others have pointed out most people simply don't like being shared. Maybe you don't see a problem with it but they do and you can't change that.

This creates even more interesting scenarios. If one is ok with sharing but the other isn't, and you love them both equally, which do you appease?

And what if neither of them is ok with being shared? Is the only fair way to love them equally to be with neither of them?
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>>116900504
But I'm not, because I can give them each ∞ amount of love. I can't give one person ∞+∞ though.
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>>116900477
>not everything under the sun is subjective
But it is. You keep ignoring the point I'm making.
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>>116900478
I'm not trying to stop you. I'm just offering the option to everyone and they're free to take it if they want
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>>116900506
>>116900515
>story where tey love do much they are willing to give their lives for each other
That's what you're getting at.
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>>116900564
>not suppressing them with police state
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>>116900566
>If one is ok with sharing but the other isn't, and you love them both equally, which do you appease?
The one who isn't ok with being shared leaves, as you're incapable of making a decision one way or another, they will.
>And what if neither of them is ok with being shared?
Then you get neither.

It isn't some one sided decision.
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