I just finished watching this pile of shit, I just can't believe what I saw, is that the true ending?
Read the last chapter of the LN and the after story.
In reality they fucked a lot and probably stayed together. The anime tries to hide it even more than the LN so it's very obscured. Anime also makes Kirino look like a bitch, in LN you see her thought process a lot
Ayase best girl in anime
Kirino best girl in LN
Koi Kaze better than Oreimo
Incest is disgusting anon, it's one ayase and one onii-chan as ayase ordained it
CHILDHOOD FRIEND ALWAYS BEST
Kirino will get over him and move Milan for her modeling career while Kyosuke will end up all alone because he can't get over his imouto
>Not posting best girl..
>that episode of her BTFO Kirino
I never liked her but that was pretty awesome
Sadly i don't.
Hopefully some godlike anon will post it.
they fucked when she was 17, she had a birthday or two in the show. still borderline pedo
the show did make me feel uncomfortable at times but that was because it felt so realistic
it made me think a lot about the nature of love, it was a very sweet but challenging story
that shit had such an amazing build up and the ending was perfect for the story. I was shaking in anticipation with every chapter near the end. I wish more shit could do that for me.
It literally takes 5 seconds to find it, about the same time it took you to post that. Now stop that stuttering bullshit and find it yourself, you are the one who wanted answers.
Same here, it was so intense. Great character development all around too, The highlights of it for me were:
The inner shame that Koshiro felt for the first few episodes. Some brutal self-hatred
When Chidori tried to help Nanoka by pretending she was Koshiro's girlfriend, and then Nanoka telling her to leave Koshiro's apartment
When they are both eating at the dinner table at his new apartment. Koshiro is telling himself that he just has to say no, stop it and he won't ruin her life. That he isn't evil yet and everything can still be okay. And then he touches/kisses her, directly contradicting what he said
Amazing storytelling/dialogue/whatever you want to call it. I wish I saw those type of heavy moments more in anime, ignoring the subject matter.
Koi Kaze was goddamn great but those white mouths in the anime always made me a little uncomfortable. Probably the best incest themed anime iv seen
help me anons i cant stop searching for more ;_;
Kirino a miracle of the universe.
BT, A Chance Encounter.
I even branched out into VNs do your self a favour and stay away from Kana -imouto- unless you enjoying crying like a bitch. It was very well made but man that plot line was designed to cause emotional trauma.
Its a shame it has gone a bit under the radar but i suppose its because its older and not as flashy as newer stuff.
I read it after having watched the anime, it's still great, especially if you aren't completely biased against a certain character. I definitely recommend reading them, I think I read all 12 volumes in 10 days or so.
>mfw dreaming about someday learning moon and playing the game with Ayase ending
Not him but it's not like you'll lose something by watching the anime. If you know the LNs then it doesn't really matter, at the very least I'd recommend watching it just to see how butchered it is. The seiyuu are also good and the soundtrack isn't half bad. A few scenes are animated well too.
Nakamura (Kyousuke) and Taketatsu (Kirino) were amazing. Sato (Manami) and Hayami (Ayase) were mediocre in their normal roles but were perfect in their alternate modes
villainand yandererespectively. KanaHana was probably the worst of them all but thank fuck she got better.
You know, I supposed we should thank the author for the casting?
I'm waiting for NanoDesu to finish volume 7, anybody else in the same boat?
It's only good for a couple of scenes and to get into the series. No point leading him into the shit that is the anime if he's already into the LN.
I'm waiting for them to finish completely to reread it. No way in hell would I wait for them to read it for the first time.
>KanaHana was probably the worst of them all but thank fuck she got better.
Fucking this. It's like she didn't even know how to VA properly at first.
They're the best. You can do BT but they go down in quality. Much better than watching the anime at least.
>lick Kuroneko's feet
>grope Kirino's ass
>fondle Saori's breasts
>kiss Kanako's stomach
>rub Ayase's thighs
>punch Manami's face
You can pick one, and only one.
I'm pretty sure the earth will be devoid of life one day as the sun expands but robots will still be coming on here and posting about how fucking buttmad they are about Oreimo's ending.
And they'll still be right.
I think the choice is obvious here.
I want to help Kirino bully the neko
Manami is the best girl.
Kuroneko is a manipulative, lying slut.
That is all.
This is why you don't do drugs, kids.
Well, she's single handedly responsible for Kirino refusing to move on with her brother love and developing a complex out of it.
take it as you wish but truth is, her "miscalculation" is what screwed her whole plan.
Or maybe she's knew exactly what she was doing and took advantage of the Kousaka's stubbornness to get them to fall in love.
Maybe she's an ends justify the means matchmaker helping people find their true love.
If you were Kirino in this situation what would you do?
Take a picture and close the door.
Who am I to judge if I've fucked my brother in that same bed?
You're pretty much theorizing that Hitler was a genius scientist who discovered a strain of smallpox that only affected jews and wiped them out to prevent it from spreading even though we have no evidence for that.
not going to turn this into a incest blog shit thread but if you mean I'd be in a romantic relationship with her if she were willing?. the answer would be yes. leave it at that
>leave it at that
Sure. That supports my theory btw. Theory that is, you can't enjoy incest stories if you have no siblings or no actual incestuous desires.
Anyone minding proving me wrong?
I have no sisters and imouto incest its some top class stuff. Its probably due to the unconditional love portrayed in it and the fact that i am horribly depraved of human affection. Also taboo is an attractive notion.
I was at Otakon for the world premier of the last 3 or 4 episodes.
You should have heard the screams of "NO" and sounds of anguish from a few thousand grown ass mother fuckers.
I did get a poster signed by the author though, that was nice.
No need to be so abrupt. I started writing my post before you did the follow up post, so I only saw the "can't".
Shit second route.
First game route was amazing and had some good kills.
>Kyousuke dating Ayase
>Kirino confronts them
>Kirino asks Kyousuke if they're dating
>Ayase kills him
And yet Ayase doesn't kill him when he screams out that he loves Kirino in that same route. In fact, that's the only way to make it through.
Anyone got the image of Ayase topless carrying a baby, that one is canon too.
Is there anywhere I can download a full, solid english translation of the VN in .iso format? I've looked around a ton but I can only find shitty half-broken ones that only cover Disc 1 anyways
Hands down lick Kuroneko's feet
Make it 16. I'm a Kirinobro, I just don't always have time to be in threads. You can bet your ass I was in all the good ones between last Christmas and this year's spring, though. Those were good threads.
Anon please. Stop deluding yourself. Bronze lost for attempting to emulate gold and obvious never acquiring its value.
Once again, if it doesn't happen in the next two months, you can forget about it. I hope it does happen and we get new songs like in the first compilation.
Can't even find Kirino's song anymore.
Someone recognized the way I type once in an LN romance thread where a guy who had literally only read Haganai and no other LNs ever was trying really hard to argue, then tried ot shitpost but couldn't even do that properly and I told him he was a retard.
Holy shit it really is just a few of us.
Yes, I believe I at one point mentioned that the romance in the series was shit so it was obivous first girl with the most angst would win because she "needed" to win and not because of any real romantic development or chemistry. The bulk of talk was about how romance should be developed, and he kept insisting Haganai did it correctly, despite never having read any other LN, but then he kept asking me to give examples of good romance stories (instead of expaining what made a good romance as I'd done) so he could call them shit. He didn't have a point to make and his shitposting attempts were obvious.
>Yes, I believe I at one point mentioned that the romance in the series was shit so it was obivous first girl with the most angst would win because she "needed" to win and not because of any real romantic development or chemistry.
Good man. I still think the author may go full pandering/sell out route with Sena though. Depends on how much he wants to suck his own fans' dick.
Sena isn't my favorite girl, but from what I know of the series she's the only one who had anything even slightly resembling romantic development with him given her forwardness in trying to get close to him. There was nothing resembling romance coming from his side of things since he's a shit character and an asshole.
About the first part of the second part? If you're actually going to be there I wouldn't mind having a war buddy to face the crowds and form buying strategies with.
>I may be at comiket this year. If I can get anything good I'll scan it and translate it. No promises though, comiket scares the shit out of me.
I'd do it next year. And the fuck are you scared of? Are you some barely visible wimp? C'mon son. You gotta get big to win big
And eat big to get big.at comiket. It's all about looking like you're there to lay down the law.
Actually it's the opposite, I'm large and lift a lot. I'll literally be a monster compared to the elvens. My moon isn't that good and everything sells out super fast, so I don't want to wake up early, fumble around and not manage to buy anything, then make an ass out of myself at the front of the line if I ever make it there. A Japanese friend told me the most important thing is to have a plan, so if I can look at the catalog and layout before hand and come up with a solid plan of attack I'll give it a shot.
>Actually it's the opposite, I'm large and lift a lot. I'll literally be a monster compared to the elvens.
Jesus christ, way to discourage anyone from wanting to go to Comiket with you
Volume 12 Chapter 2:
>The bench that we sat on was next to a toilet, and there was a nursery next to it.
"Ayase, feed the child some milk."
"How could I do that, pervert!"
"You… you hit me with the water bottle? Do you want to kill me?"
"Because you tried to sexually harass me at this time!"
"I meant cow's milk! There is no way a middle school girl could breast feed a child!"
"Then why don't you say that from the beginning? Don't use such misleading words! Also, don't stare at my breasts!"
"I wasn't staring at your breasts! I stared at the child in front of your breasts!"
Although it is true that my eyes were drawn to your cleavage!
"Ha ~~~~~ really! Always always always —— Onii-san's existence is so perverted that it makes me misunderstand things!"
"I'm not like that! You are the one with such a perverted existence ~~!"
That ~ must ~ be ~ it! Because every time, you always think in a perverted way!
"That! This is too much…!"
The hungry child didn't care about our newlywed couple's quarrel — no, it was me and Ayase.
At this moment, the child made a scary action.
"Da~~~~~ (the child's innocent cry)"
*Tzzzz~~~~* (The child did something to Ayase's strapless dress)
*~~~~* (The sound of a very important part of Ayase exposed)
Seeing my reaction, Ayase slowly looked down —
Then — one second later..
"Eh… eh, eek, eekkkkkkk"
"A-Ayase, let me… this is an accident!"
Although I panickingly tried to explain, a hot liquid fell from my nose.
This sealed my final chance.
"Yaaaaaa ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!" *Thud!*
I can die without regret.
No sisters but I believe it wouldn't matter or change in any way how someone enjoy incest stories.
I love Milfs/Married Women(incest or no), but I have a normal relationship with my mother, it must be the same with sisters.
I find it very hard to fap to HN, the story is too realistic and heartwarming, I find myself in the middle of the fap, and suddenly i realize I finish reading it without doing anything.
These anons could have warned you, OP.
All of the other routes of YNS hint to a much deeper relationship between Sora and Haru. Each arc in gentle ways peers into their relationship more and more until the last arc shows you what is at the heart of their relationship. It's really worth a watch.
>Koi Kaze better than Oreimo
Oh man. I forgot about that. They were pretty explicit about that one weren't they? Imouto was in his bed mostly naked with a blanket wrapped around her I think? I remember there being no doubt whatsoever. Similarly open-ended ending though if I remember correctly. Apparently it's less open ended and more sad in the source material so I never read it. I like to pretend things worked out for them.
And we are happy that we get to have an Oreimo thread, even if it starts with the usual "bullshit ending, shit series".
>mfw when all these ayasefags
She's just a kirino who's been stripped of all her character and all she's left with is tsundere-ness.
Kuroneko is best girl. Kirino is acceptable too. Everyone else is just, not even worth anyone's time.
Ayase really isn't tsundere at all. If you're going to consider her tsun, shes far more classical tsun in that her interactions with Kyouske clearly underwent a permanent change toward the end of the story. She cooks for him and watches out for him when he is in his apartment and she pretty much goes full dere. This is represented in her rejection as well, when she pretends to punch him but doesn't and instead cries and says goodbye. Kirino and Ayase are similar but they diverge in that Kirino is a "modern tsundere" whereas Ayase is a "true tsundere".
Well basically it comes down to Ayase permanently stops being a bitch as she comes to love Kyouske and Kirino's bitchy behavior is written off as "part of her character" and is supposed to be appealing for some god forsaken reason. The Tsun/Dere ratio is supposed to permanently change as a result of the relationship, or at least it used to. That was the true origin of the term.
Kirino doesn't do anything "bitchy" towards Kyousuke past volume 7, where Ayase kicks him in the head so hard he loses consciousness in volume 9.
Your definition of classic/modern tsundere boils down to your arbitrary and inconsistent preferences.
That was part of Kyousuke's plan from the start.
I guess you'd sooner post blindly like a retard instead of actually reading the thread too, because the focus of this thread has become the LN. If you don't want to talk in the same terms as the rest of us then don't post.
So according too you, Kirino won solely because she wanted the dick? Not because it was the way it's supposed to be? Because you know, in an incest love story it would be illogical to have the sister ending up with her brother, no?
Come on, everyone knows it will end with yozora, she's no less than the main character.
>It might be inconsiderate but it's definitely not bitchy,
Kyousuke brought Kirino's laptop with them JUST so they could eroge together while waiting for it to get dark. If that's the best you can come up with, that's pretty bad.
I didn't like it. It goes harem (with actual sex between character) because the MC has no fucking balls and let everyone's fantasies roll all over him. It's a light school days of sorts.
I hate main characters with no spines.
Playing it after the love of your life confesses to you is pushing it, though. And I say that as a Kirinobro. It's one of the few things she did that I think was wrong and she didn't make up for very much.
I understand why she did it but it was kind of mood breaking for me and naturally it makes people think less of her. That if she was truly in such a deep love with Kyousuke she wouldn't do that. But I guess it's part of the tsundere.
That's the funny thing, she knows what the next step would be so distracts herself by playing erotic games about brothers and sisters, genius.
That's exactly why she plays them and thinks of playing them the moment he confesses. She had been using them as a guide to be with him forever and that had been failing according to her.
>Suddenly it worked. Time to go back to reading the guide!
In any case, this isn't so much bitchy as it is insensitive.
I thought this series was alright at first, but I've been reading the LN and just finished volume 11 and now I can't believe how much they botched this adaptation.
They skipped notable events and vital information but chose to include so much filler and other superfluous moments. The most baffling thing is how much they marginalised Kyuosuke's and Kirino's relationship when that's what the entire story is meant to be about!
Although everyone claims Kirino isn't as bitchy in the LN, I'm honestly not seeing much a difference. Maybe there's a small amount of nicer moments from her as there's more content involving her, but she pretty much seems the same to me.
Welcome to enlightenment.
>>Although everyone claims Kirino isn't as bitchy in the LN, I'm honestly not seeing much a difference.
It's not that she's less tsun, it's that she's more dere. Look at all the times after Volume 7 that she did things out of genuine support for Kyousuke, and how she's more inclined to spend time just having fun with him rather than forcing him to do things he hates.
>true origin of the term
I'm sorry but that's a load of crap. Tsundere you would deem modern have been around as long as types you deem classic. Just check your history on tsundere in anime and see top 5 oldest tsunderes. Anon is right about the term classic and modern you use being meaningless. It's actually just wrong. You fall pray to misconceptions spawned by ignorance.
>Although everyone claims Kirino isn't as bitchy in the LN, I'm honestly not seeing much a difference. Maybe there's a small amount of nicer moments from her as there's more content involving her, but she pretty much seems the same to me.
She's more or less the same amount of tsun at the start. Far more dere. The big difference is more on how some actions were shown in the anime, and filler shit. Just a few examples
>Concert scene where she steps on him because she thinks that someone is assaulting her vs just doing it because it's him.
>Second arc/volume where they get in a fight and Kyousuke suddenly grabs her by the collar when angry (she had not been physical before that) vs her just randomly attacking him for trying to help
>Volume 3 arc vs the entire Kirino gets an anime episode
>First scene of volume 6 vs first scene of S2 (Juice/Kirino talking on phone
That's not even taking into consideration that all this was done for some reason while taking flaws or bad scenes from other characters.
There's more stuff, if I'm not mistaken almost all of the scenes where she throws something at him are anime only.
This actually borders on changing the character not to mention that it's changing the perception of the audience.
To put it another way. It's like of someone kicking a dog after the dog attacked. Then the person feeling bad about kicking the dog and wondering if the dog's ok.
The anime's version would instead show the person kick an unprovoked dog, rip out its eyes, break a couple of legs, then laugh as the dog whimpered to death. Then the person would be shown feeling good and wondering how to improve upon the kill.
It's not that great when you have the autism and density necessary to be a harem protagonist.
I only ever got into a relationship because one of them went full yandere and stalked me until I couldn't refuse or deflect anymore.
It's very well known that he suggested changes for S2 that would have made the series better but the anime staff felt compelled to ignore them.
The only things Fushimi got to do wad episode 13 of S2 and the animated commentaries.
As much as I hate ass-pulls, I was really gunning for
Kyosuke/Kirino is actually adopted, forbidden love ensuesbut that probably would've made more of a shitstorm on /a/ than the real ending.
Didn't read the rest of the comments since its too much but the real ending is Kirino and Kyousuke having a secret relationship while acting like normal siblings on the outside. Its heavily implied in the LN and pretty much confirmed in the first after story
Well, yes of course you are right, it is just that you get naturally way more insight when reading and many people really did not get the anime ending hence all the hatepost about the ending being pointless. Apart from being maybe a bit too rushed( I don't see this but it is a complain I understand), I personally really enjoyed the ending since it is a pretty realistic way of dealing with this whole thing and not drifting into absurdity like pretty much every other incest story.
>an opposing opinion supports an argument
>having anything to do with proof
You really don't seem to understand how this works, you fucking moron.
If it's any consolation Hyocoroad makes everything better. Same goes for Takuji.
It's super effective for me aswell
Please stop /a/non, my dick is about to reach the limit and I'm supposed to write a 3000 words essay
>the most boring bitch that is responsible for the MC being an absolutely shit person and the one that gets salty when he finally changes
Living proof that people who hate the show because their preferred harem character didn't win the Kyobowl are subhuman mouth breathing retards with absolutely shit taste in everything who can't even wrap their heads around the most entry level incest anime and need to fuck off to some other board immediately.
I'll take 2 saoris
A. I won't get my heart broken
B. I won't get my dick cut off
Ideally it'd be Ayase and Kirino but considering this would be a once in a lifetime opportunity (lets say the year 2034 with sex-robots who look identical to anime characters but react like real humans) then I'd go with Kirino and Saori. Kirino for obvious reasons and Saori for the different body type.
Fully understand each other, pure love from both of them, older strong and competent aniki, young strong and competent imouto, they are perfect for each other.
You have thirty seconds to explain how Kirino is a Mary Sue
Hint: It's easy.
They 3 are tsunderes, for different motives though, Ayase just don't know what she feel towards Kyouske, so she want to spend time with him and figure it out, something that she end up finding too late(or too soon?), and Kanako use it as a facade to distance from other people and stay alone, something that Kirino and Kyouske break thru and get to know the real Kanako.
>the real Kanako.
The real Kanako is a bitch who cares nothing for anyone but herself.
>tfw my sisters will never be as awesome as Kirino
The ending of Oreimo absolutely redeemed the existence of the entire show/manga/franchise, without a doubt; the greatest practical joke at the expense of otaku since Evangelion. (In case you weren't paying attention, Eva has been a running practical joke for eighteen years, and the punchline is money).
The premise was funny and self-aware: "Ha ha! She's into imoutocon, but she doesn't actually like her brother!" And that premise had a hidden declaration: "It's an imouto show, but the sister is never going to get together with the brother."
But the imouto always gets together with the brother. That's the point of imoutocon shows. Like Oedipus Rex, whatshisname was forewarned how his story would end; like Oedipus Rex, that knowledge did not let him avert that ending, because the agency of characters is powerless before genre conventions.
Oreimo was the best possible imouto show, because it was the most successful imouto show that will ever exist, even though it was ultimately a devastating critique of imouto as a genre.