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Everyone on /a/ should have seen at least a quarter of these.

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Everyone on /a/ should have seen at least a quarter of these.
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>>116588558
I haven't seen gutsy frog, I probably shouldn't be posting right?
>Tomorrow's Joe
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>>116588558
why isnt attack on titan on the list lol
defs one of the best animes around
most of this looks like kiddy shit
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>>116588689
All the names of shows are fully translated it would seem. Why do you take particular exception to Ashita no Joe?
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>>116588558
Not before they see these.
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>>116588558
On my infinite backlog
Don't worry OP
I'll be watching stuff on that list in a few years
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>>116588558
>this thread again
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>>116588558
Fuck off hipster fag. I'm not saying these are bad shows, but the animation is unbearable. Give them new adaptation like Yamato 2199 and I'll gladly watch them all.
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>>116588786
Sadly probably not.
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>>116588882
A large part of that list has better animation that almost everything produced today.
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>>116588558
eleven of those
>>116588786
all of those besides slam dunk, I don't care for sports.
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>>116589049
People who hate sports have enjoyed Slam Dunk
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>>116588786
This list seems typical of an /a/ browser who likes to think himself a 'partrician' but has very little knowledge of anime on the whole.
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>>116588558
Seen 22 of these, would hardly call this list 'essential anime' though. It's really just a list of good hipster shows from what I can tell.
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I have seen 0 of these and I don't plan on seeing any of them. Is there a problem?
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>>116589717
>never seen akira or NGE
You didn't even look, did you?
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>>116589620
A lot of them have a historic significance to anime, many of them are just critically acclaimed, some of them are both.
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>>116589365
It's came from an "/a/core" list.
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>>116589365
It's a pretty good list of (mostly) good anime and manga though.
Everyone should watch/read those if they don't want to be completely ignorant newfags.
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>>116589785
Don't like old anime. I looked at the first image and the 2nd image and the only one I've even seen one episode of is Monogatari and I dropped that shit as fast as possible.

But really. I just can't stand the older style of art compared to what I see now. Its one of those "I can't go back" things.
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>>116588558
Is the really old 60s stuff actually good or is it only worth watching for appreciating the history of anime?
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>>116589810
I'm not saying it is bad, most of them are good, it just looks kind of trying hard to be perceived as someone with superior taste from the perspective of someone from /a/.
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>>116588558
Haven't even heard of any of these except for Evangelion
>>116588786
This on the other hand I have read/watched most of
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>>116589861
Some of the Toei films from the 1960s are really enjoyable in my opinion.
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>>116589950
>Haven't even heard of any of these
You haven't heard of Macross, Gundam, Yamato, the most famous Ghibli films, the most famous Oshii films?
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>>116589989
I know about Lupin, Akira, GitS, Gundam, Astro Boy, and Spirited Away
In fact, I'm a big Lupin fan
Never watched anything gundam ever though
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>>116588882
>>116589620
>hipster

You are crazy if you think that list isn't full of very, very well know titles.
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>>116590086
Apparently old things and weird art styles are associated with hipsters too.
A quite a few of the shows in OPs pic are pretty obscure.
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>>116590086
To be fair, some of them like Akage no Anne might seem like hipster titles to people from /a/ despite being well known in Japan.
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Too much olden crap. IMHO.
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>>116590213
Yeah where is Ping Pong and Aku no Hana?
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>>116588558
I've seen 14 of those 55, so about a quarter. Most recently Night on the Galactic Railroad, which I would definitely recommend to anyone who has seen or is planning to watch Mawaru Penguindrum.

The Oshii Patlabor movies are next in my anime movie backlog. I'm excited to watch them.
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>>116590634
Watch the 7 episode OVA first.
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>>116590736
Alright, I will. Thanks for telling me
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>>116588558
While I was aware Beautiful Dreamer was well regarded, I had no clue it was a Mamoru Oshii movie. Then again I don't exactly like him enough to ever go through his body of works.

But still, if I wanted to watch it, what Urusei Yatsura stuff should I read/watch first? Never touched any.
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>>116588704
gr8 b8 m8
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>>116590954
Mamoru Oshii directed a lot of the TV series aswell.
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>>116588786
>Monogatari
Kill yourself
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>>116588786
Is slam dunk really necessary? I hate sports manga.
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I've seen 17 but I don't believe in required watching. It's more important to keep a decent pace and an open mind than to watch 30 movies and think you're an anime expert that has seen the best it has to offer.
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>>116591298
>I hate sports manga
Even Diamond no Ace?
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>>116591353
I don't think anyone thinks they would be an anime expert after watching everything on that list, but you would probably have more idea about the different eras of anime history than your average /a/non who just watches 20+ seasonal shows each year or someone who just watches mecha or something like that.
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>>116588558
I need to get to work.
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>>116588558
>Patlabor movie

The OVA is better though. And I don't see Gunbuster anywhere in that pic OP.
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>Watching media that's older than you are.
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>>116588786
good li
>monogatari
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>>116591439
Can you watch Do You Remember Love without having watched any other Macross?
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>>116591474
Why wouldn't you? What is the basis for this arbitrary restriction.
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>>116591500
You can watch it fine but I would probably watch original the series first. They tell the same story in different ways.
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>>116588558
Where the flying fuck is LoGH?
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>>116591393
Its just baseball for Narutards. When are you going to grow up?
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>>116591474
>Obstructing yourself from a plethora of amazing entertainment because of their age

Okay guy.
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>>116591557
Busterbeam won't allow it because he said it's "overrated"
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>>116591413
A better option is to watch one TV-series, movie, OVA and hentai for every year.
Don't limit youself to specific titles. There are very few people who have seen every single anime out there.
Optimally you should combine it with watching 20+ ongoing anime.
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I've just watched Marco (3000 leagues in search of mother), Akira, Heidi and Spirited Away (it's Chihiro, right?)
I really need to start watching some older animus, specially Evangelion, since everyone tells me to do it
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>>116591607
Now that's just fucking biased.
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>>116591557
It is pretty good for what it is but really it might as well be a drama CD for the amount of effort put into the visual. It is hardly essential for it to be anime let alone an essential anime.
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>>116591607
I don't think Busterbeam made this.
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>>116588558
About a quarter of those.

Worth mentioning is Mind Game, i loved that shit.
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>>116591500
You can but the movie on its own won't be as strong. I wouldn't.
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>>116591774
>50s - 2
>60s - 8
>70s - 19
>80s - 13
>90s - 9
>00s - 4
>10s - 0
Truly a hipster list.
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>>116591935
Oops, didn't mean to quote.
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>>116591935
>I haven't seen it so I will dismiss well known and critically acclaimed classics of the medium as hipster to satisfy my insecurities
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>>116592037
Except I'm not the one dismissing anime. The one who made the list is dismissing anything recent on the criterion that new=bad. Or are you saying that the quality of anime has completely plummeted?
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>>116592161
Where does it say on the list that new anime is bad? All that is stemming from your own insecurities. Essential doesn't even imply that the shows on it are good necessarily.
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>>116588558
34%
>>116588786
45%

>>116592161
The creator is not saying new=bad or old=good. The point of the list is to display the foundations of the medium that new good series have built off of.
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>>116590086
I'n not calling him hipster because of these shows, "If you haven't watched this" is the hipster part. Anime is like music in general, some people like classical and some like jazz, so if someone whould say "if you haven't watch bleach, naruto, one piece, you can't say you like anime", he'd be considered a retard. The only reason OP isn't beated to the ground because he acually gave some relevant examples of old and good anime.
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>>116592358
>Where does it say on the list that new anime is bad?
Okay, let's go with anything new=not essential, if you really want to argue semantics.

>>116592555
>The point of the list is to display the foundations of the medium that new good series have built off of.
In that case the word you're looking for is "influential". Influential doesn't mean shit anyway. If you can only describe something as influential, then all it means is that it's not good enough to stand on its own.
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>>116592640
Tell me which shows newer than the newest show on there you think fit on the chart. Also say how many you have seen on the chart.
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Does Spacy even count as anime?
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>>116588558
Missing angel's egg
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>>116592640
>anything new=not essential
You are still reading things into it that aren't there. It doesn't say only these anime are essential. You could just as easily read it as meaning this is a list of some essential anime. If someone said akira is essential anime you wouldn't assume they thought that was the only essential anime because they didn't list off 54 others. You would assume it was an incomplete list unless otherwise claimed.
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>>116592950
It does say Japanese animation not anime.
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>>116593003
they're synonyms
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>>116593003
The question is whether it counts as animation and not as life action.
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>>116588558
>Most from the 80s & 70s
I'm out
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>>116593092
what exactly is so bad about that?
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>>116592703
I don't see the relevance of that.

How do you defend the presence of things like Coffee Break in the list? More or less no one had heard of it before some other guy created a homage of it in 2011, and even after that, it's only been seen by only a few thousand people. Go ahead and try to search for anything about it prior to 2011, you won't find anything. How is it essential in any sense of the word?

>>116592970
>You would assume it was an incomplete list unless otherwise claimed.
The guy who made the chart treats it as more or less complete.

http://archive.moe/a/thread/116205953/
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How many Okamoto and Kawamoto works are there even? The chart seems incredibly biased towards them.
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>>116593091
It's stop motion animation.
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There is no anime you have to have watched, just watch what you like.
That said, I do think people on 4chan, on the internet in general, should watch Lain, not because it's a good anime but because it's good.
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This is unfair. How the fuck am I supposed to watch 8man? The only thing you can find on the internet are the first five episodes of the dub. No raws, no subs, nothing.
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>>116593177
The relevance is clear. You are saying the chart is biased towards older anime. If that's the case it should be easy to point out anime newer than the stuff there you think would fit if not for the perceived bias.
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>>116593380
So are Harryhausen's works yet nobody counts them as animation. It's tokusatsu at best since it mixes live action footage with animation effects.
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Leave reddit to me.
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>>116593461
And the only thing that's going to happen is.

>it's shit
>it's shit
>it's shit
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>>116593484
Stop motion animation is animation. It is pretty objective its not really worth arguing. Especially if accepting puppet animation is animation.
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>>116591500
Yes, but you won't get too much catharsis from it.
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>>116593091
Just watched Spacy. My rods 'n cones are dyin' over here. I think it's as much of an anime as Wallace and Gromit is a cartoon.
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>>116593571
Wallace and Gromit is animation. Spacy is not.
Takeshi Ito is not an animator and nobody else considers Spacy Animation.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083112/
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>>116593663
There'S more movement in the camera than there is in the objects. Not to mention the director appears himself at the end.
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I've seen
>Beautiful Dreamer
>Akira
>Spirited away
>Evangelion
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>>116593705
What is a link to inebriated supposed to demonstrate.
>Most of Ito's films are animation in its fundamental sense of creating the illusion of movement through the rapid display of a sequence of images.
>This film is an animation of photographs I had taken on a regular basis
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>>116594297
>inebriated
That was supposed to say imdb
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>>116594297
That imdb doesn't list Animation as the genre and to see Ito's other works.
>This film is an animation of photographs I had taken on a regular basis
The same could be said about all live action movies. 24 photographs per second is a regular basis.
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>>116594399
No it couldn't film continuously captures actual movement animation puts a string of images together to create the illusion of movement.
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29/55
Do I win a prize?
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im not watching all this old crap
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>>116594669
But there is movement in Spacy that gets captured. There's nothing illusionary about it.
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>>116588558
>Old and/or Unusual Artstyle or Ghibli = Essential
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OP's list is shit
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>>116594972
Of course there is illusion there are a series of still photographs that are strung together which your mind interprets as movement.
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>>116593115
>shitty screen ratios
>shitty sound quality
>low production quality
>old technology
>only "anime" because it's made in japan, it barely resembles the otaku pandering anime we know and love today
>hipster and artsy
>disgusting looking characters
>huge backlogs of modern anime already
I have no problem watching this for "educational" reasons. I'm interested how anime became what it is today but I'd rather stick to modern anime of this season (even though it is pretty shit too).

Is anyone really going to watch 52 episodes of 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother? It nearly feels like watching an old slow paced Disney movie about Italian literature. Does that sound like something a NEET/Otaku would enjoy watching?
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>>116595008
>artstyle is all that sets apart Takahata, Rintaro, Kawamoto, Tezuka et al
Plens gon plen
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>>116595058
That's funnier than it should be
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>>116595072
>Is anyone really going to watch 52 episodes of 3000 Leagues in Search of Mother?
Already did, one of the best anime I've seen.
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This is racist and fascist propaganda, not essential animation.
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>>116595072
>huge backlogs of modern anime already
Get on with it. You're not going to clear a backlog by bothering with hipstershit.
Watch one cours a day and you'll be done in no time.You don't have to be a NEET to achieve that.
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>>116595370
The Japanese seem to disagree.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2001-01-15/animage-top-100-anime-listing
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>>116595072
The list has plenty of movies and shorts that are entertaining even today.
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>>116595072
>hipster and artsy
Every time.
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>>116595495
>98. Sakura Taisen, TV, 2000
What?
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>>116595495
That list is a lot better than >>116588558.
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>>116595633
Flavor of the year.
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>>116595598
>entertaining even today
What is with the assumption people seem to make that if something is old it can no longer be as enjoyable or better than modern things? It seems like a childish mentality. Kind of like video gamers who won't play old games because of primative graphics.
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>>116595660
A large portion are the same.
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>>116595698
I don't personally feel that way but >>116595072 does, so I brought up that films and shorts have probably stood "the test of time" better than unsubbed kids shows.
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>>116595660
>posted on 2001-01-15
Please don't tell me that not a single anime after 2001 deserves to be on that list.
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>>116595495
>Cowboy Beeboop above Eva

Why do people act like only the west liked it and Japan hated it
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>>116595749
Except for all the artsy hipster shit.
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>>116595813
It's more the experimental crap that nobody gave a shit about.
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>>116595807
Which are the unsubbed kids shows? Macro has subs.
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>>116595816
If you look at the list it doesn't actually seem to be in any particular order. It starts off in date order and then mixes it up every so often. It definitely doesn't look to be ranked 1 to 100 otherwise the dates would be more random rather just a top 100.
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>>116595495
I watched 44 titles of that incomplete list. Even more if I count stuff I watched on TV as a teenager.
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>>116596014
Gutsy Frog and The Adventures of Gamba.
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>>116596014
8 Man
Astroboy
Gutsy Frog
Gamba

Heidi and Joe were only recently completed.
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Good luck seeing Coffee Break. It's only on one DVD from a shop that has its international account broken (and not replying to emails), and the Japanese store doesn't accept credit cards.
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>>116588558
A lot of those shows are very obscure, even to 2ch.

>>116588786
This would be more relevant.
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>>116593423
Ask for it for Christmas and Santa-san will deliver it for you.
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>>116596436
2channel is normalfag trash. I don't think they should be relevant.
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>>116588558
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>>116596712
Watch Memories or Honneamise next.
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not this thread again. some shitty shorts added to a list of old classics and some more obscure works and voila, everyone feels superior defending this list
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>>116596712
>>116596739
This, also get the Kihachiro Kawamoto collection off bakabt. Well worth a watch if you fancy something completely different.
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>>116596712
Watch Wings of Honeymayonnaise and come to realise how low Gainax has fallen.
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>>116596712
>implying you watched all 193 episodes of tetsuwan atom
eng dub doesn't count
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I have a blank spot left.

What should I put in it?
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>>116595072
>I have no problem watching this for "educational" reasons.
>whines about relevant historical industry contexts
So 1, yes you do; 2, you're a tasteless low level scrub; 3, you've got the attention span of child that can't dress itself.
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>>116597305
Remove the shitty shorts first.
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>>116597305
Momotaro's Divine Sea Warriors.
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>>116597326
I don't see any shitty shorts
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>>116597305
Uhhh replace Joe 2 with Joe 1 first, isn't that a no-brainer?

As for the blank spot, tack on some Sanrio. I guess the Unico pilot might work? Otherwise Ringing Bell.
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>>116597305
I still don't understand 8 Man. Anyway I'd add Jungle Taitei.
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>>116597448
I don't think that is a no brainer, Dezaki's style developed a lot between ashita no joe and ashita no joe 2.
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>>116588786
>JoJo

yeah I think not
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>>116597305
So... how much of this is just nostalgia equivalent to "Casablanca is the best movie ever made"?
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>>116597417
There are 3 on the first two rows already.
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>>116597608
The list is about essentials, not necessarily Japanimation's cream of the crop.
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>>116597644
Ah you must be mistaken those aren't shitty.
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>>116597650
Essential is a vague term which means absolutely nothing.
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>>116597665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf2bXOY_qDI

Certainly one of the greatest things Japan has produced in the last 50 years.
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>>116597686
There, I fixed it.
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>>116597760
it's on the obscure animation channel, it must be essential!
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>>116597780
Sounds good.

Although the whole 'essential' thing is probably better as a conversation starter, which really is all this list needs to accomplish as an OP picture
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>>116588558
>Seen 10
How did I do /a/?
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>>116597760
Yoji Kuri is one of the most important animators in the history of Japanese animation, yes.

I don't really like anything he has done personally, and I know plenty of people feel the same way. It doesn't make him less essential or relevant.
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>>116597858
Step it up
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>>116597838
>Sounds good
Huurrrr just shut your fucking mouth you hipster faggot. Watching shit like >>116597760 unironically just so you can feel special is probably the most autistic thing you can do. It's not cool or essential, it's just a waste of time.
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>>116597780
Try combining some titles. Kawamoto has a batch torrent on Bakabt, those titles shouldn't take up more space than Memories.
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>>116588786
>mixing anime and manga
>thinking that any of these hold any cultural significance in Japan outside of EVA.
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>>116597898
I watch "shit like that" because I'm curious about it. Most of the time I end up enjoying it, too, and I don't need to come to /a/ to shitpost to feel like I got something out of those.

You, on the other hand, are cancer.
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>Mind Game
>essential
Hahahahahahahaha
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>>116597780
Spacy is not cool shit. It's more epilepsy inducing than that Pokemon episode.
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Ok, mom
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>>116597992
it's pretty neat, but that's about it. I see no way you can call that essential>>116597992
>>116597992
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I don't like conflating independent with industry animation. Yeah it's all the same shit in the end, but there are completely different cultures that developed around the currents. You can't really put Kataku on the same bag as Lupin III

Also, if you took out the indie stuff I'm almost sure the reception of the chart among your average /a/ pleb would improve
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>>116598040
>>116598040
>>116598040
maybe you should get some taste>>116598040
>>116598040
>>116598040
>>116598040
>>116598040
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where's kimba za waito raion? duragon-boru? DNA2? Doraemon? Crayon Shin chan
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>>116598111
>Also, if you took out the indie stuff I'm almost sure the reception of the chart among your average /a/ pleb would improve

It's because he doesn't give a shit about it that it's actually good.
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>>116597305
My Pico by Yatabe Katsuyoshi. It's well made and invites people with an open mind.
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>>116598111
How are you supposed to appear as a cultured, intelligent /a/non if you don't include obscure indie stuff in the list?
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>>116598177
>My Pico
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>>116598237
>it's not popular
>therefore any mention of it makes you a retard hipster etc etc
This is the kind of discourse that makes /a/ a casual board
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>>116588558
Seen six.

>>116588786
Seen nine.

>>116593508
Seen four.

>>116595058
Seen eight.
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>>116588558
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHA
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>>116598237
The intelligent /a/non knows the obscure tags on exhentai. Not the obscure anime from the 70s/80s.
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>>116598259
There's usually a good reason why it's not popular, and it's not because you're one of the few intellectuals capable of appreciating it.
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>>116598343
>There's usually a good reason why it's not popular
No, there isn't. Again, casual board.
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>>116598343
look at the intellectual complexity of Jumping. It must be it.
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>>116598379
>Y-you are all plebeians with lesser taste!
Are you fucking kidding me
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>>116598289
Are you ok, anon?
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>>116597305
Added some shoujo and mahou shoujo which were both missing entirely before.
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>>116598436
I didn't say that. You're the only one saying anyone who likes anything obscure HAS to be a hipster with a superiority complex and poser taste.

That attitude is what makes you a casual, not your particular taste in cartoons
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>>116598343
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>>116598462
>no jungle taitei
One more row.
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>>116598262
No one cares, jackass.
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>>116588558
I can say with pride that the only thing I've seen on that list is spirited away.
>>116588786
As for this one. I've only seen HunterxHunter 2011and the 2 rebuild movies. I would watch 3 but it was too edgy for me to care.
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>>116598525
>I can say with pride that...
It must be odd to take pride in ignorance.
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>>116598476
Not necessarily.

They might also be on drugs.
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>>116588558
9/55
I thought better
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>>116598540
Oh come off it,mate. It's not important how many anime ya watch.
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>>116588558
Seen Spirited Away and Totoro and they were shit.

>>116588786
Unfortunately watched Madoka and Bake.

After that I learned to not give a fuck about "essential" lists and watch whatever I like.
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>>116598525
>not seen Akira
>not seen NGE
>not seen Gunbuster

Why are you even here? You're saying you get pride out of the fact you don't care about anime
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>>116590129
>Akage no Anne might seem like hipster titles

Depends on your country.

Anne, Conan and Heidi were running constantly on public austrian TV like 16 years ago.

I'd say everybody here knows these shows.
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>>116588558
24, with 11 on the backlog
What do I win?
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>>116588558
only 10

and mostly ghibli when i was a kid
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>>116598609
I saw Akira for the first time on Toonami a while back,was too confused to care about it enough for a second viewing. Also I have seen NGE but just the rebuild series.and finally I do care about anime just not alot.
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>>116598628
And in fact, the only people who get something out of calling others 'hipsters' for things that aren't even obscure are Americans.

Coincidence?
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>>116597305
Here we go.
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>>116598700
>>116598601
which one
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>>116598684
>I do care about anime just not alot.
Oh it shows Quentin, it shows.
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>>116598462
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>>116597413
That was pretty shit. Historical curiosity aside, it has nothing to offer as a work of entertainment.
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>>116598628
Conan was pretty big in the arabic where he was renamed Adnan.
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>>116598476
We are talking about animations made by people that didn't care about entertaining the masses or making something enjoyable to watch. It's artsy nonsense made with severely outdated technology. I cannot fathom why someone would watch any of this for fun.

So yes that is exactly what I'm saying. Anyone watching old indie anime besides "educational reasons" is a hipster with a superiority complex.
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>>116598881
>I don't enjoy this therefore nobody else can
Fuck off.
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>>116598881
Ever thought that perhaps someone could be entertained on a similar level as the original creator, no matter how personal or self-indulgent the work is?
Or is advertising the highest form of visual art, seeing as its raison d'etre to please as many people as possible?
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>>116598975
Well that's the thing. The creators were hipsters with a superiority complex.
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>>116598975
I don't really understand him to be honest because to me a lot of those shorts are enjoyable to watch just for the visual creativity if nothing else. Something like this that is completely abstract for example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVQdJa0JS8U

Is in my opinion highly enjoyable, much more so that 24 minutes of the average season show.
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>>116599073
Well then, let the hipsters have their self-indulgent experimental shorts and let the babby have its bottle.
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>>116599166
Ok
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blue= watched as a kid on tv, possibly multiple times
nobody here can compare to my powerlevel
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Maybe when they make a remake of those so the animation doesn't look like shit.
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>>116598881
>We are talking about animations made by people that didn't care about entertaining the masses or making something enjoyable to watch
This might apply to like, 2 things on that list.
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>>116599281
I come pretty close.
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>>116588558
The only essential anime is currently airing. Take off your nolstalgia googles and get off your high horse.
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>>116599703
>>116599281
Also I never watched any of that on TV as a kid and the splodges are things I have seen some of only.
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>>116599763
*tips arrogance*
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>>116599763
How does it feel to be a mindless /a/ drone?
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>>116599926
How does it feel to be a redditor?
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I don't blame /a/ for being anti-intellectual. After all, most people here are American. American society has been suffering from mass-scale lobotomy for decades now, and the glorification of stupidity is even condoned by the power. The people who respond personally and defensively against this are probably also mostly American, because to them it is a very close issue. Kind of like how atheist Americans tend to be more militant than atheists in less-religious countries, or even more religious countries where the culture of discussion is different
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>>116588786
Finally FKMT gets the respect that he deserves.
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Since here's a lists thread, does anyone happen to have one for LNs?
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>>116588786
>monogatari
>gunbuster

No thanks
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>>116600020
This actually sounds like a realistic explanation for those opinions like
>>116598881
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>>116600020
>I don't blame /a/ for being anti-pseudointellectual.
Fixed.
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>>116588558
>claims to belong in /a/
>makes a rec thread
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>>116599763
As someone who has watched thousands of anime from all decades I agree. Keeping up with the ongoing season helps the board a lot more than circle jerking about a limited list. After you have sealed the flow of new anime you can take the time to explore older titles of your own choice.
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>>116600053
There aren't enough good LNs that also have good translations for there to be one. That said, you can start with something easy and fun like Yahari, Haruhi, Oreimo, Toradora, etc.
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>>116600392
You get more from currently airing anime with a knowledge of their context in the medium.
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>>116600392
The difference is that new anime makes up 90% of the threads, daily. A thread like this is a slow and one-time thing. It isn't getting disproportionate attention or anything.
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>>116600420
>easy and fun like Yahari, Haruhi, Oreimo, Toradora, etc.
You might aswell have said vapid and shit instead of easy and fun. Although that can be said for almost every LN.
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>>116589365
The only ones that make me thing that are NGE. Madoka, and maybe Lain
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>>116600484
Of course if you are watching anime for the purpose of discussion with /a/ all you need is what is airing. If you watch anime to enjoy anime what is airing or not means fuck all. I'll discuss anime I watch with /a/ but I don't watch anime to discuss with /a/.
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>>116588558
Seen 23.
Where's Mazinger, shisha no sho, Angel's egg, deep imagination series?
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>>116600590
I don't watch anime to discuss with /a/, but objecting to discussion of non-airing anime itself is pure cancer and definitely not at all something good for the board.
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>>116600475
You'll never manage to fill all prerequisites that way because it would effectively mean to watch everything which takes a lot of dedication. Just watch previous seasons before starting a sequel and pick up hints on other series on your own.
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>>116600685
Why would you prioritize bad shows over good shows just because the bad shows are current?
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>>116600635
I agree. Both are fine.
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>>116600685
No it wouldn't mean watching everything and no even that wouldn't take forever there are just over 3000 TV anime.
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>>116600420
In fact I looked for a certain LN that i encountered in the list, read and forgotten the title. Though I already found it, so never mind.
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>>116600727
Because stopping the flow is more effective than trying to force yourself through the flooded area. Additionally you can contribute more to the discussion as it happens
Nobody is forcing you to watch bad anime. You should know yourself what you want to continue.
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>>116600894
There's only a flow if you feel forced to keep up with seasonal anime.

Regardless of the relevance of this list, I don't want an /a/ filled with uncultured swine. It already is, people think they know about animation because they started watching japanese cartoons last season and have already completed 40 shows just from seasonal stuff. They feel compelled to have opinions on writing, character design, animation, directing, impact, and they actually don't know anything about that because keeping up with seasonal anime does absolutely nothing for you other than having you be part of the conversation. With such a shitty conversation though, who would want to?
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>>116600685
I don't think you understand what's meant by "their context in the medium".
There are a few shows that embody a paradigm, and understanding how we got to how things are requires paying attention to them.
There's no need to watch everything because 90% of anything is overtly derivative shit.

If you were to say to someone you were into music but had only ever paid attention to current music you'd be laughed at and rightly so.
Gotta have at least a modicum of understanding of history to understand the context and value of what's here today.
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Really pushing this "/a/-core shit", huh?
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>>116601000
Somebody who has only watched 40 anime is going to be worthless no matter what period those anime are from. The one who watched ongoing series will be more capable of feeding himself than the one who watched them based on required watching chart.
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Why do people get so fucking butthurt that people might have an interest in anything beyond seasonal stuff and shows in the MAL top 100.
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>>116601189
>The one who watched ongoing series will be more capable of feeding himself than the one who watched them based on required watching chart.
what the fuck does this even mean?
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>>116601065
Most of that is made up bullshit. We get idiots who only watch anime from 95 onward because of Eva

>If you were to say to someone you were into music but had only ever paid attention to current music you'd be laughed at and rightly so.
Anime is not music and the point wasn't to only watch ongoing anime but that ongoing anime is the only required watching here. There's plenty of time between the weekly shows to finish older series but what series you watch is up to you and shouldn't be restricted by the masses.
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>>116601252
Because it's often accompanied with a superiority complex.
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>>116588558
>Grandpa anime
No thank you.
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>>116601267
Not him, but charts can end up homogenising tastes and lead to a userbase that doesn't know how to look for shows themselves, look at /mu/ for example.
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>>116601267
Watching ongoing anime and witnessing discussion teaches them how to fish. Stickying a chart only creates babies crying to be served more.
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>>116601186
/a/ core is things like Kino,mushishi,lain,monogatari not old anime. /a/ hates most of this stuff.
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>>116601252
You don't need a chart of "obscure" anime. Looking at the bottom of the rankings on MAL or similar gives you a better and more fluid list.
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>>116601434
>>116601425
You keep missing the point of the chart but it's not a rec chart.

And for the record, people who go out of their way to look for old, potentially obscure shows are way, way better about their lurking than seasonal shitters (i.e. the kind of people who ask "what's that from" when you post a pic from a show they haven't seen)
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>>116601380
The only one's showing a superiority complex are the ones who feel the need to come into this thread and call anything they haven't heard of hipster shit
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>>116601498
You're grossly underestimating both the popularity of most titles in that list, and the amount of ultra crappy old anime out there.
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>>116588786
>Monogatari
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>>116601529
>(i.e. the kind of people who ask "what's that from" when you post a pic from a show they haven't seen)
There's nothing wrong with that provided the source isn't readily available and they ask in a polite way.
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>>116601737
In that case your whole "fish vs babies crying" discourse doesn't work either, as long as they are polite.
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>>116588558
Fixed.
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>>116601641
I know that Eva and Ghibli is popular. I don't really understand the chart since the selection seems rather random.
There is a lot of crap out there but if you have a profound interest in anime you should endure to wade through it and form your own opinion.
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>>116601529
The chart doesn't offer any context for why these works are so significant within the medium Those who do actually follow it are, more likely than not, to simply view the work and move on, with very little gained in understanding anime and its history.

Regardless, whatever your intention for the chart, it doesn't mean that people will use it that way.
Using /mu/ as an example again, most of their charts are presented as a taster for you to springboard off and search for other artists with. Almost everything discussed ends up being from those set charts because nobody wants to explore.
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>>116588558
Most of this shit is only here for the Same of being old.
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>>116601914
>The chart doesn't offer any context for why these works are so significant within the medium
that's what the thread would be for

It's an 'old anime thread' done in a way that encourages discussion rather than circlejerking, the chart is just the topic starter

I don't think I've ever used any chart at face-value, and I don't think many people do, even the ones who ask for recs
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This is better. If you can't manage one cours a day at least try one cours per week.
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>>116601819
A thread asking for what anime to watch is shit no matter how polite it is written.
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>>116601848
Fuck off famicom.
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>>116588786
That's a nice p-
>Madoka
eat shit
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>watching ancient shit like Astro Boy just so you can claim you're cultured
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Anyone has the "Obscure & Artsy" chart?
I still can't find Michi and Beyond the tracks anywhere.
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>>116601425
>look at /mu/ for example
/mu/'s "post the chart and quote a NMH lyric" method is better than "boku no reported".
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>>116602289
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>>116601999
If you want to try and stimulate discussion on the stuff in the chart, why no try starting up a thread about certain directors\animators\writers. You're likely to get more focused and interesting discussion than if you simply tried to force a chart.
Also I would have thought that people would be more likely to become interested if there is discussion on a few works instead of a chart that calls them anime plebs.
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Hey /a/.

Shitty MS Paint editing aside, give some suggestions for improvement. Which Shinkai anime should I put there?
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>>116602372
Thanks.
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>>116602471
Who gives a fuck about Shinkai
Add NHK.
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>>116602372

Add kaiba
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>>116602294
It means that people tend to go away and listen to music rather than get pissed off than leave, whether you consider that good or not is up to you.
However, /mu/ has a real problem with the same albums and artists being discussed endlessly and people not knowing where to find new music outside of the board/p4k/fantano. I'm pretty sure a good deal of it is because of how canonised charts have become.
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>>116588558
If you dont have a life that is.
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>>116588558
Saw 6 of them

>>116588786
Saw 5 of them
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>>116602471
>cqubooboo
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>>116602518
No prob.

>>116602557
I coulda sworn it was already on there. I just checked and I'm kinda surprised it isn't. I know it's on one of the other fifty charts I have saved in my backlog candidates folder.
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>>116602471
Add some Tomino like Zambot 3, Be Invoked or Victory Gundam.
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>>116602372
That chart is awful hardly obscure and hardly artsy try watching some independent animators if you actually want to see obscure and artsy.
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>>116598462
This version is much better the first thingI thought when I saw OPs chart is where's the shoujo.
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>>116602832
There are some, I think in Fuyu no Hi, and in Tokyo Loop for sure. Some of them are far from obscure but I'd say overall it's good middle ground between indie and mainstream.
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>>116588558
Nah
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>>116602771
>>116602520
All right, thanks. I also completely forgot Grave of the Fireflies.
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>>116602771
ZZ a best tomino
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>>116602964
I'd rather make another chart just listing names of artists with examples of their work as the pictures for that kind of chart although it might be better just titled independent animation then.
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I wish they'd put Koneko on DVD.
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>>116602471
Needs nobody's boy remi. That anime is fucking hard to watch it is so depressing everytime something good happens to him you can't get happy because you know it's all going to come crashing down for him again soon.
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