Arthuria or Jeanne? Which you choose /a/?
>English are hopelessly outnumbered
>Crush the French, anyway
>English are hopelessly outnumbered
>Crush the French, anyway
>English are hopelessly outnumbered, sick, fatigued and starving
>Obliterate the French, killing several of the most important noblemen of the time
that character was the worst part of the show
why why WHY do they do shit like that? Do they just not care? Do they think or know that people are just stupid?
Why don't they put more attention into MC development?
>mfw siège d'Orléans
>mfw every single battle since then has been a French victory
Thank you based Jeanne
>Talbot was completely outnumbered when he began the battle
>French only won because of new-fangled artillery
Give it up, froggie.
oi they had 2 full episodes on nothing but backstory for MC, your .gif related, dontchu complain, some of us liked caster
also funny you say that, they wanted to develop characters like waver more and more but scrapped the idea because they thought people would get "confused" as to who the MC actually was supposed to be...
>some of us liked caster
I have something to tell you about your taste.
Writing wise, he and Ryunnoske were actually fairly sound. It's ashame they were done as if it was a Saturday morning cartoon.
>Hey! Get this! The villain, his character motivations, he's just not really going to have any! We don't have to write crap! He's just going to be CCRRRrraaaaazzzzy!!! That's cool, right? That's original, right?
Caster arc worst part of the show. Almost fucking ruins it.
Them being stupidly crazy and then dying off first, contributes to the idea that people without motivations never end up with the grail; even if the corrupted version of it is selecting freaks like that after volunteers run out.
I dunno, I thought that in itself was cool too. They weren't my favourite pairing either, just an interesting one IMO
>even if the corrupted version of it is selecting freaks like that after volunteers run out.
They could have done this without breaking the entire tone of the show, and turning caster into le_edgy_comedy_festival concluding in that anticlimactic, plot derailing ultimate boss battle.
>ultimate boss battle
You mean this thing? Idk, I thought it was a cool representation/foreshadow of what the holy grail is really like after the 3rd war. I only recently watched zero though, after reading the F/SN VN so maybe my idea of the tone of the show isn't that solid yet.
I wish I could be as open minded as you about my cartoons.
Anticlimactic is the right word to describe that arc. Why is it there? Why is the entire grail war, and all the rivalries and interrelationships of it, cast aside for the sake of this pointless armageddon?
What is the point of taking all that time to give attention to Caster's pointless delusion, instead of developing Toshaka, Archer, Lancer, or the Matous?
I'll admit despite liking the caster arc unlike you guys, I'd also rather have more development on someone like Tokiomi. It's sad all he was really for was to show young Rin and get backstabbed.
Don't get me wrong mate. I'd have to say that F0 is
my favorite cartoon.
It's just that thing where you really want to like something, but it just isn't up to where you feel like it could've been. It could've been perfection.
I agree that Tokiomi is most deserving of more development. Focusing on him would also have given Archer more screentime, which I would've liked to see.
However, Ufotable probably decided (correctly) that the masses don't want to see SOL-esque filler focusing on detailed characterization; they probably decided F0 would sell better if they bumped it up to 20+ episodes using filler that was about running around, action, yelling, and sword swinging.
>running around, action, yelling, and sword swinging
I'll admit the whole fighting caster thing really felt like that, but looking at it deeper I also think it was cool to see how every pairing kinda dealt with it.
Ex. Archer fighting Berserker (The fucking dogfight was hilarious to me though, felt out of place), rider buying everyone time with a reality marble and lancer breaking his fuckin' weapon to help saber was really interesting to me and I guess I appreciate caster as a catalyst to those kind of interactions.
Sure. But all of that would have been better in a plot context that was coherent and consistent. Like, give Caster a sentient motivation that doesn't shoe-horn Saber into the spotlight. Like some kind of religious conviction based in his grudges about being executed in his life. Then have him be killed over the course of a couple episodes.
Urobuchi is a fantastic writer.
The more we talk about this, the more I'm starting to realize the way they wrote Caster is kinda like if Gilles de Rais had Mad Enhancement for no reason. Your views make sense to me now /a/migo
Its apparently Laeticia's uniform for school.
We're not sexualizing the saint, we're sexualizing the Catholic School girl that she's possessing.
Oh these anons who doesn't understand Seiba true beauty...
What is the purpose of the high cut and thighhighs?
Why does Jeanne have such high stats? Although she was a legendary figure, it's not as if she was known for her battle prowess. I'd always assumed that her actual combat abilities would be below average.
What are the chances of Ufotable animating apocrypha? It seems cool, but like hell am I reading a LN.
Jeanne was a leader and commander in life, not a combatant, for the most part. She marched fearlessly forward with the banner at the front of the formation, but she didn't generally fight the enemy herself.
This question was decided a while back. Stop being so new.
Summoned in Europe. Also, if I recall, Servants take on aspects of their legend regardless of whether the legend is wholly true or not.
What aspects of Jeanne's legend are there that make her out to be a powerful combatant? I've never heard of her felling powerful warriors or performing superhuman feats of strength.
No, but the actual details of her feats, other than that she was involved in military exploits, are less widely known, globally speaking. It's the entirety of humanity that contributes to the legend-weaving, after all.
Alternatively, religious faith in general in Nasuverse has power, so it could be related to that.
Probably markedly inferior to Arturia's but most likely serviceable thanks to her stats, now t he only question is can she actually use the sword part of her weapon without triggering the suicide attack NP
>She had often been told that her prayers were a lie during life. She viewed that there is no truth or lies in prayer, so she was unable to understand such abuse. Prayers are merely prayers to her, and she did not believe that they changed depending on to whom or what was being prayed. While she wished to convey such to the those people, no voice came to her. She instead saw a scene from the past laid out before her, that of her rustic village, an ordinary family, and the fool who threw it all away.
>She believed that she may have certainly been a fool because she knew better than anyone else that that her end would be as such. She pondered over what could have been if she had looked away at that time, if she had abandoned the lamentations of the soldiers on their death beds. She may have known an ordinary life with an ordinary marriage, continuing to live with her husband and children. She knew such a future could have been possible, but she threw it away for a different one, choosing to take up the sword, clad her body in armor, bear the flag of her country, and ride on horse-back to the front lines of war.
>She knew such an end would come as long as she continued to fight, so it was inevitable that she would be called a fool. The one thing she would not permit was to mock herself as one, believing that the lives she saved were important and that she was not wrong to have chosen that path. Her scene of the past, the impossible future, and the harsh reality dispersed into nothingness before her prayers. No matter how much those around her berated and betrayed her, she died knowing that she never once betrayed herself. Without regrets or longings for the future, there would only be rest.
Have the entire female cast of F/A instead.
I wish Saber and Jeanne could meet in Fuyuki.
They'd do cute girl things together, eat Shirou's food together, take baths together, play with Taiga together.
Ilya would grope her breasts, Caren would pick on her and Shirou would lament the increased food expenses.
And then Mordred shows up.
Actually, she seems perfectly stable in F/A, provided you don't bring up love or romance and stuff, then she loses her pasta like a 14 year old girl.
Assassin since we kicked those countries butts during medieval crusade times and were also winning the current crusade into these countries insallah
Then tell her to stop being showing off sideboob.
Maybe you don't know much about Gilles in real life, but he murdered anywhere between 500 to a few thousand children, after raping and/or sodomizing them, getting them to do all sorts of fucked up shit like commit cannibalism and he spent a lot of his time trying to summon demons (largely to get out of his financial issues because the king prevented him from taking out any more loans, making any more plays or otherwise wasting any more money).
Also he may have been trying to get Jeanne back after her very political death - she was executed by people who didn't actually have the right to execute her after a complete kangaroo court to which they didn't actually even have the right to hold.