Well, has it?
Since Schierke, Fantasia and all the magic crap the series has gotten a lot less interesting for me and Imoura's snail riding on a turtle riding on a fat man riding on a scooter pace has only made this worse.
Black Swordsman, Golden Years, Lost Children and Convinction are all amazing but after Guts got his jrpg party nothing has really engrossed me like the earlier stuff.
Has Berserk gotten worse, or just changed?
It isn't even worth discussing because Miura will die before we ever get an ending to be disappointed by. He literally does not give a fuck anymore, he has enough money to chill and play idolmaster. He gives zero fucks about his fanbase and their expectations.
Or drawing Berserk is hard and now that he's older he has to slow down and play Idol Master or his brain with expload. Working hard on one thing for such a long period can wear you down.
>He gives zero fucks about his fanbase and their expectations.
Very good. Every real artist should be like that.
If you really consider early Berserk amazing then the problem is your poor taste.
Yeah, it wasn't great, but I like how it sets up the story. It introduces you to Guts as a ridiculously strong, heavily scarred asshole who fights fucked up monsters with a sword the size of a car. Then it jumps back to show you his whole life story to show how he got to that point.
I can't help but think now, how would The Golden Years have been without the Black Swordsmen arc preceeding it, better or worse?
Yeah, I don't expect an ending anymore, if he finishes, he finishes.
>I can't help but think now, how would The Golden Years have been without the Black Swordsmen arc preceeding it, better or worse?
Frankly, it wouldn't be different. Black Swordsman is almost completely pointless.
>Jumping the shark is an idiom created by Jon Hein that was used to describe the moment in the evolution of a television show when it begins a decline in quality, signaled by a particular scene, episode, or aspect of a show in which the writers use some type of "gimmick" in an attempt to keep viewers' interest.
What would be the jumping the shark moment for Berserk?
Honestly, after putting out 2 chapters a month without a break for 14 years, I can put up with all the hiatuses that Berserk has now. No normal person could draw something like this every two weeks without burning out.
>everything in Berserk built to the Eclipse
>has been going nowhere ever since
It just doesn't make any fucking sense because he had already set up the revenge against the Apostles happening but suddenly he doesn't want to drive the story anywhere anymore.
Hasn't jumped the shark it just refuses to move forward.
Guts and company are still on that goddamn boat and for all the political intrigue, it's just gonna all amount to wasting time.
Not him, but really, not a lot has happened. In the long, A LOT of what happened after the eclipse will probably end up being superfluous.
Lost Children is fun, but its pretty much, Guts rocks up at a place and kills the local monster as far as I remember.
Also, the fights in Berserk are ass now. It's like watching Dragon Ball Z.
>A LOT of what happened after the eclipse will probably end up being superfluous
Nonsense. Every big arc is a build-up to some important event. Is Griffith's reincarnation superfluous? What about Berserker Armor? Or the war with Ganishka?
Berserk is slow, yes. But outside of very few parts everything is essential to the main plot.
Not him, it covers what is arguably the best part of Berserk and has a couple of changes which some people prefer. It also looks nice and
has an incredibly well casted english dub.
Your doubles raise a decent point, maybe things were just kind of slow. A lot of it sure FELT like the story was just faffing around, but now I'm now I'll have to think about this.
I thought it looked nice. What are some problems with it?
I think the main question is, would reading golden years be the same if you didn't know that Griffith's betrayal was inevitably going to happen and that everything was a setup to Guts getting ultra-mad at him and becoming a wandering demon hunter?
Guts putting on the armor. It's been a defining moment to when the fights stopped being "Guts outmaneuvering enemies, using swordsmanship and his tools with the skills he developed in years of battles on the edge" and became "Oh, enemy is pretty strong, let's go berserk on it and pay the consequences later".
I think you mean they will naked water splash fight it out. If it were to all end like that I probably wouldn't mind.
This is so right, the fights just became totally uninteresting after the armor came into things.
Also, Puck going perma funny-face and having 2/3rds of the dialogue wasn't the greatest thing to happen to Berserk but that was a more gradual thing.
>Guts outmaneuvering enemies, using swordsmanship and his tools with the skills he developed in years of battles on the edge
There was a battle like that in volume 35. You're grossly exaggerating.
The armor is a parallel of Guts and Skull Knight's lives.
Schierke isn't a probelm on her own, really. She was just probably the biggest shift Berserk made from Golden Age type stuff to Fantasia stuff.
I like Berserk best when it was relatively low fantasy stuff. Guts, Griffith and Casca's relationship and Midland's war with that rival kingdom were a lot more compelling than "NO, I MUST KILL MONSTERS." "NO GUTS, YOU ARE MONSTERS." And then Guts was Berserk.
Here is my quick, drunk, rundown of what has happened after the eclipse and why it's significant.
basically a better understanding of both Guts' solitude/hatred of demons AND of how apostles come to be and that they could be ANYONE (if the eclipse wasn't enough explanation). this is the first bit of black swordsman we get since the beginning and we get why he acts all edgy and shit now
this is where guts and casca are re-united AND where farnese (representing the organized religion and even rational thought to some extent) witness and embrace the true nature and supernatural of their world. it also brings griffith, instead of femto, back into the story
this is really just griffith using apostles and demons to take over the land, but it's also the part where guts gets his plot armor and the rest of the gang understand their roles, especially that shierk aint nothing to fuck with
it's reasonable to hate on the fact that they're still on the boat after fight literally the same monster four times in a row, but at least the falconia/fantasia shit was happening at the same time. this is where it gets really interesting.
falconia is fucked. for sure. whether griffith actually knows it or not, everyone in that city is just food for the godhand. this has been foreshadowed and hinted at. demons fighting along side humans is nice and all but it's all an act. that city is fucked.
we'll just have to wait and see what happens
It just changed. I think it's as great as ever, aside from the slow releases.
I'm usually the first guy to jump at the slightest hint of bullshit in a manga story. But Berserk is pretty damn innocent.
Of course, some of the story elements so far, including Jesus Griffith and the introduction of human magic users, could've easily been quite disastrous. But no, they were done carefully, and very well written into the story. Did they come out of nowhere? Maybe sort of, but they worked. And the Black Swordsman arc had prompted us to expect the unexpected.
I, very recently (maybe two weeks ago? Something like that), read Berserk for the first time. Read it in one sitting. Took me like 3 oor 4 days.
Other than the amazing art becoming godly, it has not changed from chapter 1 to the latest one. Puck has always been there for a reason.
Just think of the Golden Age arc. There were even less battles than now there - and a lot of more magic. There's just more magic in Guts' side now - and there was always some, in the form of Puck - but that doesn't make it much different.
After marathoning Berserk, I'm now on a Tezuka binge. I had already read Atom, Phoenix, MW, Metropolis and some more, but I've now marathoned Ayako, Barbara, Black Jack and Adolf. Currently reading Buddha. Also, I always thought MW was the most fucked up Tezuka work, but fuck that. Ayako will break your soul. It feels like proto-Punpun.
Don't judge a manga by the time you've spent reading it but by the content per chapter.
If you relate the content of the ship arcs with previous arcs its not in any grand varying length to some of the other arcs that have been done. The issue is the hiatus. Him loses pages on his brief return also slow progress but we are getting plenty of information and development on multiple fronts. We may not get another big battle at sea any more. And if we do it may just be once more before we reach elf land. Then something awful is going to happen to force everything into chaos.
>Implying Guts is anywhere near getting off the boat.
Bitch, he got off the boat, and got a qt3.14 party member in the process too.
He just had to go back to the fucking boat because set fail for one piece.
>in b4 hurr moe
He got two new male party members when he got on the boat.
All of this. Plus another thing I felt was foreshadowing was the usage of the Band of Hawks. Guts initial return to find Casca missing mentions him abandoning what was left of the Hawks/Casca/flames. When Griffith returned to Farnese the people asked Griffith to name themselves the Hawks again. This shows that the Farnese people are seeking Salvation from the Hawks. On one end we have Guts and Casca representing the Hawks and Griffith playing Hawks with the people of Farnese. This is all a play on the Anti Christ mythos with Griffith being the false prophet.
Casca existence is almost metaphysical. Not only does her state of mind reflect the state of the Berserk world but she's also the direct/goal/purpose of Gut's brute force. Gut's isn't fighting for humanity. Isn't even fighting for himself any more. He let people die for his fight for revenge. This only eventually turned into a fight to keep Casca alive. When she comes back into herself will mark the direction in which humanity in universe will have to go and focus Guts into a cause. And from this struggle we will get the True Prophet from Casca's child.
That is some deep shit anon.
>Oh, enemy is pretty strong, let's go berserk on it and pay the consequences later
You mean, like the fight against the Count from volumes 2 and 3?
He went full berserk and wouldn't have been able to win if it wasn't for Puck, just like in the latest chapters he went full berserk and wouldn't have been able to win if it wasn't for the armor/Schierke.
Same shit, anon.
> I can put up with all the hiatuses that Berserk has now. No normal person could draw something like this every two weeks without burning out.
Murata would like a word with you.
Current Berserk is such fucking garbage and his "hiatuses" are bullshit for whatever reason.
Current Berserk is garbage as well.
>No normal person could draw something like this every two weeks
Yeah okay, but by all means keep excusing Miuras laziness
>Current Berserk is garbage as well.
I didn't mean to type that twice.
Hurry up and come out so I can sleep
But it's still good.
Besides... I like character development, so stepping out of war was needed... Besides we had Knut to give us some violence back...
I prefer that over shounen with plot and characters contrived in order to have a fight a week.
First part of Gantz was good anon.
In general I don't like super gory stuff, but for some reason Gantz appealed to me. The fact everyone could die an horrible death including the MC and innocent children really gave incredible tension to the fight.
Also is the second part as bad as a/ makes it to be ?
>people of Farnese
You can drink with me anytime, anon.
>Casca's metaphysical existence
What do you make of her true self existing in some capacity in the Ideal world? The realm is made up of beings created from the emotions, symbols and ideals of mens' hearts, and right now Casca is more like a symbol of hope for Guts rather than the woman he fell in love with. It's pretty dehumanizing, but at the same time, Griffith having none of the personality of his pre-Eclipse self means that he has also been completely dehumanized.
I don't really think Guts can ever go back to that brutal yet somewhat tsundere person he used to be, let alone the goofy, laidback guy he was in the Golden Age. Character development has made him very depressed, and when he isn't fighting he's more often than not in bed recovering.
Yeah, it should've stopped not longer after the Golden Years. It would've sucked for them but hey, at least the good memories would still remain intact.
Now that ship had sailed and it's too late.
I blame the videogames they let Miura play
Miura should capitalize more on Berserk video games, I imagine killing a load of demonic shit would be therapeutic for us as well as Guts.
Not jumped the shark, it's just a different feel to it than it had back before the dark tower thingie arc.
s'not BAD, just diff.
Black Swordsman was generic as fuck, looking back on it, certainly nothing worth the waits we're getting.
He picked the wrong Yuko Miyamura character for his waifu.
It was just pure Guts being cool before things got silly. Not my favourite part, but still entertaining.
By the way, I'm OP. Still here.
It's subtle, brutal, shows Guts as a force of fucking nature and completely destructive.
It's a perfect self contained story with enough emotion to make it perfect.
It really is just some hero traveling into town where the town is plagued by a monster annoying and killing them.
But it's the journey Guts shows on his way to killing that makes it amazing.
It shows how far Guts has degenerated
It eases the story back into the black swordsman era after being low fantasy for so long
Its another story about how innocent and cruel children can be
I agree with you on Black Swordsman, but Conviction wasn't edgy at all.
As for Schierke, I don't really dislike her, but I dislike the overall switch of the manga from dark fantasy to a more generic high fantasy. It's not "bad", but it's just not really Berserk anymore.
Gantz felt boring and pointless to me.
Well, he still has some of his personality.
Most popular anime/manga should probably be banned from /a/. It's not like they can easily be discussed anywhere else, anyway.
I agree, while earlier arcs might have been better written individually it's the overall journey so far that has shaped how everything progresses, so I enjoy it more and more.
Will he be able to protect her smile?
I mean edgy in its correct sense, not the 4chan term of edgy for the sake of it.
I'm not sure I would say that BS is adolescent but I will agree that it felt more mature and confident in itself on its message concerning theism and its role as an institution in the middle ages.
And not only that, Mozgus isn't really painted as this completely corrupt asshole either. So it doesn't fully paint one side as right but does have its central point in being cynical and anti-theistic.
Not when Guts will kill him.
And not mercenaries will rape and gut her stomach.
>I mean edgy in its correct sense, not the 4chan term of edgy for the sake of it.
Honestly, I don't know the correct definition of edgy in this context.
>I'm not sure I would say that BS is adolescent
It was just so angsty and amateurish. I feel a bit embarrassed when I ready some parts of it. If Miura could still work fast, I'd say he should redo BS and GA someday.
>And not only that, Mozgus isn't really painted as this completely corrupt asshole either. So it doesn't fully paint one side as right but does have its central point in being cynical and anti-theistic.
And that's why I think it wasn't necessarily edgy.
Sonia did nothing wrong, and she doesn't deserve to suffer.
No, because he stands out.
Because while everyone is afraid of Apostles and shit, she gives no damn.
Because while everyone cries and tembles at the mere sight of Griffith, she just gives no shit and raps herself round his cape like an autistic idiot who is self conscious that she's in a story.
She merged humans and Apostles together. She destroyed morality itself. It's akin to letting serial killers in a prison among our society and being cool with them living with us.
That isn't nothing wrong at all.
Might not be her intention but it's still her fault.
She absolutely deserves to suffer, die and be tortured until she's a slab on the battlefield, trampled by horsed with all her limbs dislocated and torn from their socked.
>No, because he stands out.
>Because while everyone is afraid of Apostles and shit, she gives no damn.
>Because while everyone cries and tembles at the mere sight of Griffith, she just gives no shit and raps herself round his cape like an autistic idiot who is self conscious that she's in a story.
So you're saying she's a nigger apologist?
Well, I guess I can see how some would consider her deserving of rape and murder when seen under that light...
Griffith did that, not Sonia. Sonia just gave the humans a morale boost so they could fight better. I don't see anything wrong with that.
>Because while everyone cries and tembles at the mere sight of Griffith, she just gives no shit and raps herself round his cape like an autistic idiot who is self conscious that she's in a story.
It wasn't always like that, though. Maybe she just got used to him after hanging out long enough?
Sonia still took the initiative.
Griffith simply ended the war once Sonia made her moral speech. He was specifically waiting for her to do that so that it would make people accepting of magic.
Fighting had nothing to do with it.
Griffith simply swooped in, got to the heart of the Emperor and stopped/killed it.
Griffith organized everything. He summoned the apostles, he made an army, he started including humans in it. He took the decision to attack Ganishka, he decided to have the humans fight along with the apostles, etc... All Sonia did was the speed and the reckless charge. Griffith did everything else.
I forgot the details.
You mean Yusuke "I draw when I feel like and don't have set deadlines" Murata? He's GOAT tier and all and his posters for Jump's celebration and tribute drawings show off just how talented he really is, but his serialised manga isn't drawn as well as Berserk is and not written a tenth of how good Berserk is.
Seriously people shit on Muira because of his hiatuses but no one else is capable of what he's put together.
By an interview done by people at Skullknight.net - we know that Miura works 15 hours a day.
So fuck off anyone who says he doesnt give a damn anymore.
Why? She seems to genuinely believe he's the savior of the world.
I don't believe that. Maybe it was true a while back, but certainly not now.
So, is thread kill?
I read many articles recommending beginners to directly skip the Black Swordsman arc if they don't like it
actually personality of Femto is really weird when he confronts with Guts
yeah it seemed like he was trying really hard to make it seem like he didn't care, as opposed to the later Godhand's utter non-interest in Gus'affairs.
>Volume 1: P-PETTY WORM. YOU ARE BENEATH OUT NOTICE
>Volume 14-37: ...
I know to people who aren't hobbyists or don't draw it seems easy to draw this amount of detail in a short amount of time, but in reality it takes fucking weeks, that's why even Tite no backgrounds Kubo can only manage 18 pages a week.
So what is Casca going to do when she becomes not crazy again? Is she eventually going o start fighting again, or will she just continue to be a burden on everyone?
I just hope she cuts that hair short, her long hair looks kind of
Either we get a long, drawn out scene involving Casca blaming herself for everything, blaming griffith for everything, maybe even blaming guts. Then there'll be an argument on whether to stay safe together in elfhelm or journey back to confront griffith (no clue who would take each side) and then some comfy chapters of her getting acquainted with the new party and settling into a new niche.
Or Miura rushes it and we get a few spreads of hugging and crying before Casca comes back full fighting power ready to rumble.
>Casca gets healed and is not crazy again
>She starts screaming at Guts
>IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!!
This will happen
I know it's not easy, but he used to be able to release chapters way faster, so either he got way slower somehow, or he's not working as much as before.
>I just hope she cuts that hair short, her long hair looks kind of
It's true, but maybe it could look better if it was styled differently.
The detail of his work has increased dramatically. I'm inclined to think he had assistants earlier on when he was drawing Berserk because honestly unless he used the behelit himself he shouldn't have been able to put out that quality work on his own.
I wish Miura's art never improved beyond late Conviction. It had a perfect balance of details and personal style, and it was apparently much faster to draw.
Conviction was my favourite as well but objectively his art now is far superior. And since everything is now involving gods and shit the whole scale of the story has been upped, and the artwork has to reflect that, which means more multipage spreads of highly detailed shit. Looks amazing but it must take forever to do. I've heard rumours that if Muira makes a mistake rather than rubbing it out he chucks the whole page away and starts again, hopefully that is just a rumour though.
>Art is much better
>Scope has gotten larger, the world encompassing prophecies in vol 12 have come true
>Griffith is actually manifest, Guts has a clearly defined goal, to choose between saving Casca or fighting Griffith
>Characters from the Golden age and the black swordsman arc have met and interacted along with brand new characters being introduced making every chapter feel like part of the same story
>Guts has evolved and developed as a character, the story has evolved from the 90s without changing its style or tone
>Guts enemies and situations have gotten more dangerous, raising the stakes, justifying Berserker armor
>The world of Berserk has been expanded upon, e.g, Apostles origin, hell, the astral world and astral creatures such as puck, loose plot threads are being addressed, e.g the Bakiraka, Skull knights origin, Guts behilit,
Latest chapter had the best scene in a long while, it's still alright I guess.
One-Punch Man's art is not as good as Berserk.
I agree that Miura's lazy though, and that current Berserk is pretty shitty. I thought the last chapter was lame, though Rickert slapping Griffith was good.
I haven't lost interest because of all that stuff. If anything I lost interest because it takes half a year to release a single chapter if we're lucky. Also Griffith is boring as shit and should have stayed Femto.
This is Guts when he sees Griffith after the Tower of Conviction collapses.
>watching the shitty movie
>get to the sexy rape scene
>get my dick out to start jacking off
>See Casca actually stick her tongue out when Griffith kisses her, right before he is about to cum inside her
How much control did Miura have over this? Because it may be canon that she enjoyed it.
I don't think so, but i did notice the sudden change in tone when the Witch loli was introduced, it was less dark and grim. It did't bothered me that much because the millenium falcon arc had a lot of awesome battles. Those chapters that focused on Griffith were pretty tame thought.
Anyone who thinks Miura has gone soft is a Moron.
It's just like the Golden Age arc.
First he lulls you into a false sense of security, and then he strikes.
>Since Schierke, Fantasia and all the magic crap the series has gotten a lot less interesting for me
I have to agree. Reading Berserk now feels more like a chore than a great privilege.
Erica and Rickert are god tier children.
The golden arc was gorier and more focused on political treason though. Not that i agree with OP or anything.
The one in the cave? you are right, i guess it made a lesser impact for me.
Based /a/, tell me of a glorious anime akin to Berserk since I won't read an unfinished manga nor do I enjoy reading manga in general. Medieval, gritty shit, don't really care if there are demons or not in the mix.
He is truly the greatest waifufag of all time.
>we will never get lost children Guts again
Why was he such much better when he was still "in touch" with his hellhound?
Guts is a perfect example of how to flesh out a character. We dont know *that* much about caska because muira self-admittedly didnt put that much effort into her, and Schierke is still like 9 or some shit, but Muira has done a pretty fantastic job of making his characters evolve.
Guts didnt just stay an edgy bastard, just like Farnesse didnt stay a crazy bitch.
The problem is that Guts still has all that build-up rage but now it manifests as the Beast of Darkness.
Also the fights aren't as good as in Lost Children
No, I like the fact that hes changed. Hes better now because the character becomes less one-dimensional. Guts always cared about people, he was just shitty at expressing it.
People like to say Griffith is boring, but we're viewing this through the scope of 4 or so years of reading.
Griffith is loved by many but doesnt care about anybody at all but himself. Or at least, he didnt. Guts cared about everyone BUT himself, which is why he constantly had to leave the band. That dichotomy is what Miura wants to express: Guts is never surrounded by people and is a lone wolf, but deep down just wants to be with others. Its why Judeau told Guts to take Caska with him when he left, or when he realized his attachment to Griffith didnt make him an equal.
Griffith, on the other hand, was constantly surrounded by people, enjoyed using them, and yet might as well have been 40000 miles away, emotionally speaking. Christ, even the shading decisions highlight this fact: Hawk of Light, minimal inking, everything is white and pristine. Black Swordsman, iconic Berserk inking.
Berserk has one of the most enduring characters in Manga specifically because the characters have changed.
Nope, she's going to hate herself for supposedly abandoning Guts to wallow in her sadness, in the much the same manner as Guts blamed himself for leaving her behind and thinking that there was no way he could make things up to her. Y'know, that creates drama, it's not soap-opera forced.
Well, he's got his hand on her face and his basically forcing her, kinda like how in the manga he forcefully kissed her because she told Guts not to look. Hell, in the outtakes she tells Guts that she loves him instead, twice.
I'm sorry anon, but no NTR fantasies for you. Only mutual suffering and tears, but hey, you get to suffer too.
>Hell, in the outtakes she tells Guts that she loves him instead, twice.
I didn't know that they hired the actual Berserk characters to voice themselves.
>Well, he's got his hand on her face and his basically forcing her
No, she stuck her tongue out as his face moved towards hers. And it looked like she did it willingly. There is no way he forced her tongue out with his fingers.
Also, what outtakes? Where can I find them?
Gee Hawk, you ever wonder where the BERSEEEERKER song came from?
Body language, anon. You can gauge a woman's discontent when she is being kissed by her eyes. Very simple process. When the woman (in this case Casca) has her eyes open, she's alert, she doesn't want this slippery thing roaming her other wet cavern, she's not taking it in. When she has her eyes closed, ie. almost every time she and Guts have their kissus, she's got her eyes closed and she's relaxed, enjoying that nice firm tongue Guts have. I say almost, because she has the exact same reaction she did to Femto when he first kissed her in volume 23, when Guts, in his extreme sexual frustration and arousal from seeing Casca's victory against three assailants, tries to have a go at her. Disturbed.
You want more proof, I can tell. Well, the rape scene was disturbing, but it wasn't sick enough. You see Guts and Casca holding hands here, fingers intertwined? Completely depraved. They are both intolerably lewd individuals, and it can easily be seen that Femto wasn't up to snuff for Casca. Fucker had Judeau killed, it was inevitable.
Maybe it has something to do with being anime only. Isn't that the definition of a Fate secondary? Not that I've ever watched the series or read the LN, but I think I'm better for it.
>Gee Hawk, you ever wonder where the BERSEEEERKER song came from?
No, but it's pretty irrelevant anyway since it's not anywhere in Berserk.
I'm just saying that it's pretty desperate to use outtakes as a proof of something in the primary work.
I can imagine Guts recounting all the terrible things he did to her while she was out of it, starting with blowing female Apostles' brains out whilst fucking them in twisted irony.
Hey, you're not Hawk.
>I'm just saying that it's pretty desperate to use outtakes as a proof of something in the primary work.
So you can't do anything if I start calling Griffith a terrible singer? It's not like he ever sang in "muh primary work", you lousy bitch.
>So you can't do anything if I start calling Griffith a terrible singer?
Yes, I can?
>It's not like he ever sang in "muh primary work"
And that's exactly why you shouldn't call him a terrible singer. He never sang, so we don't know whether he's good or not. His voice actors are irrelevant.
>Casca comes back to normal
>Eventually heals and is able to start fighting again, becomes completely dependent like before
>Farnese is now useless to the rest of the gang
>In her despair she comes across the behelit and tries to sacrifice Casca
I began to lose interest after Griffith became God, and then other people were also monster demons, and then it just became fighting against other super-ultra-sugoku-kowaii monsters.
Seriously, when Zodd first appeared, I found it really cool, and an interesting way to develop Gutts' character as he tries to be the biggest, baddest killing motherfucker that ever was. And I REALLY enjoyed the early segments which felt very medieval/fantasy.
But then fairies.
And that whole little witch bit.
And then super monsters fight super monsters.
And then fuck it why am I still reading this.
>being this NO FUN ALLOWED
You and your "intelligent, polite discussion", how can you have it when you're denying us of our daily shitposting? These threads thrive on the offensive jokes and Casca worship, you may as well pack it up to MAL if you can't co-exist with it.
Seeing as branded folk can't be sacrificed again I can see Casca talking her out of it, that'll be something for the /u/fags, but that'll only happen for Serpico to pull a 180, take the behelit and sacrifice Farnese for reasons that I'll pull out of my ass right now. Maybe he'll also feel useless seeing as his only major relationship is with Farnese. His chemistry with Guts has disappeared completely after they settled their differences, and at the moment it feels like he's just there.
I'm not "no fun allowed"... But you should at least try to make some logical sense, whether you're arguing seriously or joking. If you don't make sense, then things are neither funny nor informative.
You are no fun allowed. You are not allowing me to have the fun I want. If this was a fucking hospital or something, I'd understand, but this is /a/. /a/, a place where anons go to escape the harshness of the world, and some basement dwelling woman who cherrypicks posts is telling me I can't use outtakes for reference because "hurr irrelevant".
Fuck you. Seriously. You're just like the people you hate.
I somewhat feel that feelio. Too much magic and pokemon for my liking.
...but I still love the series.
Look, you "can" use them if you want, I'm not gonna leave my basement and hunt you down just because of that. Just don't expect anyone to take you seriously when you spout such crap, that's all.
Seriously, you just tried using outtakes as a proof that Casca loves Guts. That's pretty hilarious. This is worse than using fanfiction as a proof. And now you're attacking me on a personal level just because I pointed this out.
>implying Casca doesn't love Guts
b-but this doujin said so
Would it have made a difference there if he had his sword?
How would things have gone differently if he had resisted capture?
My dick wasn't the only thing crying by the end.
Just wait until you see the sequel. By the end of it, you think that they really are together in their dreams, but both are too depressed to realize the reunion.
Both are, by renowned vanilla artist Kuon Michiyoshi. Seeing as everything else is either too wacky or too fujoshit, these two doujins are probably the only ones worth your time. Seeing Zodd taking Schierke from behind is only amusing for so long.
>dat in-character dialogue
>dat kissu sfx
My mistake, yes. Wouldn't it be a sight otherwise?
Am I a faggot for not liking edgy Guts?
Edgy carries so many connotations nowadays, I prefer the term grimdark.
ultimate husbando guts a best
I always thought edgy is someone who prefers to be alone, miserable and in the darkness.
Clearly Guts never wanted all that shit, it's not his fault his best friend is a huge piece of shit.
Guts was originally a very happy, carefree child, and he probably would have stayed like that all the way through adulthood had Gambino not been such a grouchy fuck.
Alright. 'Sadistic', then; that's more accurate. It was lazy of me just to say 'edgy'.
I think people think it's edgy because he's smiling afterwards.
But thats how someone who is basically suppressing all of their emotions reacts to something that insights emotion - like the whole act of feeling is nostalgic.
Or I'm wrong and this is the moment guts finds out he really just hates this monster and he's smiling because he has something he truly hates to kill.
I find grimdark/sadistic Guts really cute, he tries to be evil and an asshole but in the end he always gives in. I even think Guts is anti-edgy in the regard that he always ends up with companions he wants to protect.
Especially that panel "Who would have thought that I would have companions again?" really striked me, unfortunately I can't find it right now
My heart can't take that shit.
Yeah, he never takes it a step too far to killing innocents.
The other manga I loved, on a hiatus too...
>one is on a boat.
>the other stuck in hell.
Plenty of room for character development unlike the shit tier movies. Animation hold up very well despite the series having a low budget.
I also like the soundtrack quite a bit.
what do you guyse thing grifith was thinking about when he saw that fucking show?
holy shit guts is really a fucking monster.
>guts becomes more badass every day.
I can understand how everyone has a crush on him
batman guts is best guts.
there is something i been trying to understand, the armor fuck guts up even if he is not hurt?
i mean if he is in this batman state does it fuck him up?
I think using it reinforces the connection between him and his subconscious desire for revenge at the cost of his friends (personified by the wolf monster he converses with). Then there's his loss of ability to see color, and whatnot. Physically, I don't think it damages him.
She's preventing him from going full-berserk with that thing, like a lifeline to reality. The impression I'm getting is that she's only mitigating the problem, not solving it.
Animefag here. Started Lost Children and dropped it sometime after he went to confront the fairy/bug/demon/whatever in the forest since I got bored. Should I continue with the manga? I know I have a fuck ton of catching up to do but I want to know the experience of waiting 4 months to see if he'll finally get off the boat.
Has the tension between Guts and Serpico been resolved yet? Seems like every volume they get closer and closer to killing each other and Miura probably building up to a legitimate confrontation (not the honourable duel in the pillar room).
I wonder if Curing Casca might upset the group dynamic enough to be the catalyst.
i don't think there is very much tension, at least not personal tension
serpico knows that guts can become an animal in that armor and will protect the others, especially farnese, no matter what
I also want to know about it, one other person posted this in a berserk thread 2 days ago and he said even this was reduced in quality.
Tell the best scans which I can download
Because the hellhound coexisted with him instead of trying to control him.
You're forgetting she's Schierke's apprentice now. Farnese with magic is way more useful than Casca in her prime, even when Casca's not on her period.
It was an explosion.
Oh please one punch man isn't Murata's original work he's just making a remake.
Also art of Berserk is far superior than of one punch man
OPM is a simplistic story while Berserk is on another level.
What the armor does is remove Guts sense of pain while in battle. Humans need pain as a sign that something is damaging them. without Guts feeling pain he can push his body to over 100% which causes extreme damage to his body in exchange for impressive feats of strength.
If Guts breaks any bones then the metal will pierce into his bones to reinforce them (and will slowly retract over time). also the armor lets him see better in the dark, and lets him control his fake hand as if it were real. (it is a magic armor after all)
If Guts is in control of the armor while in "Berserker" mode he can gauge how much he should do while fighting. but when hes not in control hes just a savage animal destroying himself.
however, if he simply wears the armor and isnt in combat. the armor dulls the pain of his body, not completely eliminate it. which Guts is all for since his body is constantly wrecked. its like a pain killer that hes addicted to.
what? you mean slow releases right? the story pacing is perfect.
Berserk has gotten better over the years. you just want it to be Guts the lone wolf doing edgy shit.
This isn't fucking Naruto. Guts dilemma is whether he should live quietly with Casca or burn everything away for revenge.
>implying it wont be option 3
Casca gets her brain back and her, Guts, and co all go on jolly demon genocide adventure. Drama and fighting ensues
Well, the true question is how selfish Guts really is.
Did he leave the Hawks because he didn't want to be just Griffith's lackey/hitman? He says he left because he wanted to be considered an equal or a friend to who he considers a great man.
Is his mission to kill the apostles and Griffith? Or is it to save Casca? Is it revenge? Or does he want that Casca booty again?
Would he really be happy with living quietly with Casca, or would he HAVE to kill Griffith for what he did?
Guts has been so silent about his feelings, all we can go off of are his actions, and they have been just as confusing...I wouldn't say he is selfish, but he has a unique focus.
I think it is clear that most, if not all, of Guts' companions would die if he lead them back to battle Griffith, and the Beast would grow stronger with each death.
Well, I've to say that for me, even with the hiatus, Berserk is the best manga I've ever read. I'm not ashamed of saying so and I'll keep saying so when asked, though this time wasn't the case.
On a different note, sometimes I feel irritated by some of you guys. You should stop being so fucking bitchy, you have an awesome manga that you've been able to discover, read, enjoy... And if you don't, fuck off, who cares. Go read whatever of the 9000 shitty series out there. Get your shit together and deal with it.
The stigma is no problem with Shierke covering it up. The real problem is Griffith doing something to really fuck up the world or fantasy monsters becoming such a big problem that they even encroach on Elfheim.
>Humans need pain as a sign that something is damaging them. without Guts feeling pain he can push his body to over 100% which causes extreme damage to his body in exchange for impressive feats of strength.
I wish more people understood this. Hellhound isn't an evil spirit that makes Guts somersault around because of any thought out tactics or strategy. It's just Guts so out of tune with his body that he can jump far enough to tear apart the muscles and bones in his les without even realising it.
>anon posted a shit berserk edit I did in mspaint over 4 years ago
Of course not. I never took it seriously, just do for fun.
But I already am
You know, you could have just called it endearing rather than insulting him like that. Anons should play nice.
It has just changed. It passed from Dark Fantasy to High Fantasy.
It is steel an amazing story and the best manga ever made.
>the lolis will never win
Consider the following: What good things does Casca have that the lolis don't?
Schierke was adorable in that dress.
>people calling Lost Children Arc Guts edgy and one-dimensional
It's actually the point where his character is at it's deepest. Just becomes it seems he revels in the slaughter doesn't mean he's edgy.
Around the Conviction Arc it feels like he lost most of his personality with the occasional blood hound shit. Rarely snarky, barely anything to say, there are still traces of that during fights, but otherwise no. From Black Swordsman till Lost Children there was a consistent theme of bitterness and cynicism in his personality, perfectly justified through the buildup of his his character in the Golden Years. Even if there was no Casca or revenge dilemma, it was still apparent that Guts had severe psychological problems (for example after the Count fight or Lost Children in general).
Correct answer. Miura knows how Yumi Unita's reputation was ruined following Bunny Drop, he won't make the same mistake again.
I honestly think that, for what it's worth, Berserk deals with the psyches of the characters far better than Evangelion does, with the only major issue being Casca's lack of a characterization following the Eclipse. However, I liked >>116471114's correlation between Casca's condition and the condition of the Berserk world itself, and it's clear that there are going to be big things for her, Guts and the child when they get off the boat. Any year now.
That and the beach scene really got me, poor kid. Gut's has to protect her too
>there are actually people who sexualize their relationship
Fuck them, Schierke is the type of girl you give cute piggybacks to after a long day.