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I miss Eruerufu so much...
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I miss Moses
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I miss Akira
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>>116175638
Sunrise reference?
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>>116175669
Yep. Sunrise confirmed for bros.
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Which show first followed the now infamous Sunrise "formula" that created shows like Code Geass, Valvrave, and now Cross Ange?

Was it Gundam Seed?
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>>116175790
Valvrave and Geass being the way they are is just because of Okouchi, God's gift to anime.
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>>116175790
SEED didn't have anywhere near the level of wackiness Geass, Valvrave, and Ange have. Off the top of my head, I'd say it was Mai Hime, but there's probably something earlier I'm forgetting.

Also Ange isn't even half as entertaining about CG or VVV.
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It'll get a spot in SRW any day now.
Any day now.
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>>116175328
Me too, I think about the show in general every couple days. But he was the best part...
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I ignore Tokyo Raven's existence so I can pretend Valvrave was gg's last show
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I miss Shokoshoko.
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L-Elf was so based.
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>>116176397
Shokofag pls
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I miss Saki
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Utter shit show.
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>>116177556
What was shit about it? Go ahead and not reply shitposter, I know you wont.
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He was the coffee to Haruto's sugar
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>>116176251
>Ignoring Hurrtora
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>>116177590
What's the point in asking him? He's just going to copypaste shit from /m/ or from the archives like every VVV thread
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I love this show so much. We need maor vampires in space.
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>>116177960

No, no. We need more Nazi youth in space
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>>116178042
What we need is more brain problems in space.
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>>116178106
As long as there are no more bakemonos
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>>116177960
>>116178042
>>116178106
You're all wrong. We need more omniconfident characters in space.
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>>116178106
There's Greco for that.
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I want a sequel soooo bad.
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>>116175790
>Which show first followed the now infamous Sunrise "formula" that created shows like Code Geass, Valvrave, and now Cross Ange?

Wrong premise. It's not a real formula, since the constituent elements and results are quite distinct in each as well as most of their respective creative teams. The similarities are purely superficial. When you compare the actual content of each series, the differences are relatively huge.

All they have in common is the fact there's some amount of craziness or wackiness, but the ways this is accomplished and the degrees involved vary considerably from project to project.

Which is why I think you also suffer from some historical ignorance or myopia. If you wanted an honest and accurate answer, then the actual precedent would be the Sunrise robot shows made by Yoshiyuki Tomino back in the day. They were also very different, but also sometimes had crazy or zany elements.

By the way, Cross Ange is more like an alternative version of Mai-Hime as interpreted through Fukuda wanting to challenge the limits of Japanese late night TV broadcast standards. He was even publicly complaining about them a few months ago.

Valvrave was Okouchi being hired by Aniplex to do something halfway between Gundam and Code Geass yet lacking all of Taniguchi's methods and the core ideas about how to make it work.

Code Geass was Taniguchi and co. wanting to make something entertaining for a wide audience, where the insanity and mix of elements would be broadly appealing while simultaneously having a core of interesting contents beneath.
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Shoko did nothing at all.
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>>116178346
That's not true! She got everyone killed
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>>116175945

Gundam SEED was Fukuda and his wife taking themselves too seriously. It didn't feel like this at all, even at its worst. Cross Ange is the opposite.
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>>116175790
If you want a show that copies another, watch Guilty Crown, and compare that to Code Geass.
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>>116178184
So an anime version of The Expendables, but with keikaku masters instead of action heroes
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All I remember is Eruerufu, Jew Bro, and waiting for a wave of rape doujins that never came.
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>>116178461
Idk Anon-kun, I really hated Code Geass and Guilty Crown, but I adore valvrave. Why?
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>>116178461
Guilty Crown does copy some rough elements from Code Geass but the feel was also different. It tried to be a darker and edgier Evangelion meets Eureka 7 but fell flat.
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just started the second season

did i seriously just fucking see space magic
what was with them ending a season in the middle of a fight
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>>116178583
I guess you're just weird.

Guilty Crown and Valvrave are increasingly less popular and worse derivatives of Code Geass by introducing bad ideas, removing those that worked and generally suffering from divergent directorial approaches.
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Why was second part so much worse compared to first?
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>>116178643
Drop it now.

For your own good.
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>>116178643
It's all part of the keikaku
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>>116178660

I didn't think it was that much worse. Just too focused on Haruto being a monster. Still had some enjoyable episodes and parts.
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>>116178643
The robot fight was cool
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[Computer generated beat back and forth]

MIJIKAI YUME
WO KASANETE
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>>116178591
But if you actually count up all the "rough elements " it copies, it's kind of jarring. Guy meets mysterious girl, girl gives him powers, joins terrorist group to fight oppressive foreign regime, takes over a school as a base, at the end something tragic happens to MC, although the blindness thing in GC was total bullshit[\spoiler], and even the title is just CG flipped.
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>consensual rape charges valvrave up
nani?!
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>>116175790
Ryvius
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>>116176124
>>116176397
OTP
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>>116178943
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the show itself was entertaining enough (though the ending was shit)

best part about it was the threads.
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>Yuuki Aoi suffering
How could it be bad?
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They replaced le elf with a similar looking guy called slaine, and traded le elfs combat skills for more suffering.
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No, they tried to emulate the homolust with Buddy Complex and somewhat failed.
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>>116178583
>Valvrave
>Decent until somebody decided it was a good idea to let kids run their own country.
>In space

So fucking cringe worthy
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>>116176124
L-elf was the only popular character on Japan. Shoko got some residual popularity for being shipped with L-elf but that's it.
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>>116178896
Guy meets mysterious girl is a common convention.

Shu joins a terrorist group but mostly accidentally and tries to get out of it at times.

The school was less of a base.

The title was flipped since someone must have thought it was cute.
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>>116179149
L-Elf is Inaho.

Slaine is Haruto with even more flip flopping and illogical decisions.
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>>116178564
Holy shit, did he really lose his pants that quick? I try not to recall the scene, so that's why this surprised me.
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>>116179365
Are you fucking retarded, its completely the other way around, inaho and haruto are both pilots and both die at the very end. Furthermore le elf looks exactly the same as slaine, and they both have a tonne of suffering, and both essentially kill the other mc.
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AFURERU NAMIDA
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I genuinely miss the show. S1 was wacky, S2 had a lot of promise. Everything getting rushed in the end (including the final boss mecha looking far less intimidating) took the steam off the show.

Some of the best girls too, IMO.
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>>116179448
You're the only retard here if you can't understand something so simple.
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>>116178705
>Just too focused on Haruto being a monster
It's not that. Focusing on him being a monster would have been fine. It's more they focused too much on and hammered him with suffering without any real hope of getting better.
They focused more on tearing him down than building him up.
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I miss Saki
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>>116179469
KOBORERU
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>>116179526
maybe their decisions are similar, but stylistically and plot wise its flipped.
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A/Z was better than this or Code Geass
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>>116179698
That's the point, we weren't talking about something shallow such as appearance. Look-alikes happen all the time in anime.
And if you're saying Slaine is L-Elf because he killed Haruto then Vegeta is also L-Elf because he killed Goku. No wait, Vegeta is Slaine because his hair can be blond.
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VVV-ln
Haruto-Shoko
http://pastebin.com/hJaPCJqD
Haruto-Lise
http://pastebin.com/7N4JUd0J
Epilouge
http://pastebin.com/FDu1GH04

VVV-message for the future
http://pastebin.com/Wm04Utyk
http://pastebin.com/dnTqEGvF
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Inaho is obviously l-efl. A cold, logical and methodical thinker who is an ace at combat. Slaine is Haruto, an over emotional person who acts on impulse, and doesn't think. The only difference being Inaho and Slaine don't have 1/10th of the charisma of their counterparts, and are drawn worse as well
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>>116179085
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Waifu wars

IN SPACE
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>>116180160
Masterpiece
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>>116180737
>tumblr

Kill yourself to death.
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>>116180902
I told you to die.
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>>116180956
Fuck you.
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>>116179593
Saki was so fucking good.
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>>116180737
>>116180902
>>116180956
There are so many levels of terrible here I can't even get mad.
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>>116180996
Shoko was better.
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>>116181121
At fucking everything up
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>>116181159
And Haruto still picked her and would have fallen for her again if he lived.
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>>116180776
>>116180947
>>116180992
Funny man.
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Shoko x L-Elf is canon
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>>116181566
Only in your head canon.
Your ship does not exist and has no fuel.
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>>116181566
[citation needed]
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>>116181591
>>116181604
Prince
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>>116181426
>666 KB
Is that just a weird coincidence?
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>>116181652
You mean the prince that looks like HARUTO and L-Elf. The prince who is a symbol of Haruto and L-Elf coming together and their cooperation. The prince that has noting to do with Shoko.
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>>116181652
You mean the kid that has Haruto and L-Elf runes combined that could be a descendant of Saki or anyone else Haruto bodyjacked because the runes get transfered over, including Takahi? Yeah, that's not a citation and proves exactly the opposite. It's more likely for him to be Takahi's descendant than Shoko and L-Elf descendant. There's no way he would have L-Elf's exact hair unless he was his son himself or had inherited his runes. Since L-Elf isn't immortal and can't be his father centuries later the only option is the second one.
Checkmate shipperfag.
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OTP
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>yfw you saw Ainas face in the explosion
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Blazing Vampire, Haruto Tokishima
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Thundering Familiar, Yamada "Thunda" Raizo
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Shielding Familiar, Kyuma Inuzuka
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>>116179728
>A/Z was better than this or Code Geass
Yes and no.
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Spinning Familiar, Saki Rukino
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>>116180160

This pictured reminded me that I fapped furiously to Audrey many times
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Hacking Familiar, Akira Renbokoji
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>>116178461
code geass was a generic shit that tried to be like gundam seed and death note but fell flat
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>>116182349
>>116182403
>>116182461
>>116182499
>>116182604

Average tumblr user.
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>>116182647
Unless you are going to admit that gundam seed and death note are just as generic as code geass you are wrong and have fallen flat.
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Kakumeki Sentai Valvaranger!
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>>116182735
I think the show would have been better with something like that being played out
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>haruto and shoko never hugged
>never held hands
>no kissu
>no supermarket sex
fucking bullshit season 2. and to top it off they had to kill him too
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>>116182781
They would need to actually act like a team for that to work.
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>>116182781
But that isn't what teh director wanted teh show to be about.
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>>116182731
Sure but code geass still copied elements from those shows
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>>116182846
Even the Light novel handled their reunion better. >>116180005
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>>116182486
A/Z was far worse than this. At least this was funny.
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>>116182900
at that point everything is a copy of a copy though, since geass didn't invent that kind of protagonist but neither did death note
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>people think Valvrave was anything less than a masterpiece
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>>116182971
I'd say the difference is there was more variety in Geass than that assumes. Lelouch is externally similar yet also quite different internally from Light.
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>>116183027
>people think Valvrave was anything more than a piece of shit
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>>116182961
agreed. at least the season 1 of valvrave was amazing. aldnoah didn't last even that
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>>116182735
>Not posting the official version
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I miss jewbro. He was a really great character.
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I miss Haruto. He was a great character.
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>>116178564

Why would you get doujins when it's already in the show?
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>>116184731
there you go.
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>>116184863
Because Haruto didn't go on a rape spree, and nobody ended up mind-broken. There wasn't even one "No, not inside". There are hypotheticals that need to be exploited.
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Best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKPmNCTis5s
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KAKUMEIKI WO
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>>116185093
Based
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>>116185214

It wasn't even rape, can't rape the willing.
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It was 0/10 if it had a rape child it would be better
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Rank the VVV pilots
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>>116185248
fuck no. that song is awful. boku ja nai was the best one
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>>116185934
Jewbro > Thunder > Akira >>> shit >>>> Haruto > Saki
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>>116186118
there's no way thunder was a better pilot than haruto. he was a fucking retard
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He died for his OTP, do you have the same resolve?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y41FbRNrFJs
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>>116185934
L-Elf!Haruto > Jewbro > Saki > Marie >= Akira > ARUS Ace Pilot > Haruto > Thunder
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>>116185998
This. valvrave may be a generic shounen shitfest with bad writing and characters but at least the first ED was godly. sasuga Angela.
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>>116186173
I feel bad for Thunder. Guy was cool, but boy did he suck at piloting.
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