Previous thread reached bumplimit.
Will anyone care to put up a improved database? Mangaupdates was good only because there was no alternative. Not since it died, we should come up with a newer improved manga database.
Have we heard anything from the actual staff? I am all for a good panic but the lack of information is making me hesitant to go into panic mode.
Mangaupdates has gone down before and recovered
>Will anyone care to put up a improved database?
No because MU never released their database even when encouraged after the DMCA debacle a few months ago.
>Mangaupdates was good only because there was no alternative.
They were good because of their scrapers and bots pulling in new releases before anyone else
>Not since it died, we should come up with a newer improved manga database.
Will be hard to accomplish.
Have you actually thought the source might be because of hosting server problem?
Normally, if a website down due to legal reason, they would put announcement on the main page stating whatever reason.
Now stop making stupid baseless assumptions that will lead nowhere, except panic, and start using your tiny head.
> scrapers and bots pulling in new releases before anyone else
No. MU is fully user based. They don't have any bot. User/scanlation group adds a release which then gets checked by a mod and then it gets marked as a new release.
You were clearly not around when the manga division of bakaupdates was created. There were several alternatives back then but thanks to practices similar to mangafox they killed off all competition.
>tfw you used mangaupdates when they still allowed download links to individual releases
> Will anyone care to put up a improved database?
There were /a/nons talking about a new project in the previous thread
First time I have heard of it. It's still in beta though.
If they're in the US it would protect them from a takedown, at least a permanent one. That said, it should be kept in mind that DMCA claims generally place the burden of proof on the accused party.
I'm so glad I copy-pasted all the series on my lists to an excel file.
So, when is it revealed that Daiz is somehow involved?
Some people with their shitty baits and alternative crap suggestions don't realize that MU has the most extensive sorted book database.
For scanlator/moonspeaker it is the perfect place to go window shopping and finding cool/weird Seinen books.
And relax, lamb probably tripped over server wire or something.
Some fag who runs the UW subgroup and has some role in HS who thinks his way is best for everything. He's a massive fag and really doesn't matter as evidenced by the fact that you don't know who he is.
No, Crunchyroll and Funimation are the lead translators of HS.
The only thing that I didn't like about MU(other than the removal of group links)was that I couldn't individually set list behavior and put a single manga in multiple lists. Other than that I had no problems with its functionality and nothing else came close in regards to the information.
MU is seriously my only option to keep track of the hundreds of series I read, I'd welcome an alternative just for the sole fact that we seriously need a alternative if something permanent happens.
Man, i must say i love it
Mangas is kill, praise your webtoons overlord /a/
I rather die than read trash like webtoon
Mangaupdates Global Site Downtime
The recent downtime was (is still) being caused by our host. It turns out that one of our IP addresses in our virtual network has stopped responding to requests on ports 80 or 443.
I've moved mangaupdates.com to a different IP and updated DNS, but it will take up to a day for the DNS updates to traverse the globe and become effective for everyone.
Sorry for the trouble. We're sending in a support ticket, so maybe they can help us figure out what's wrong.
>The recent downtime was (is still) being caused by our host. It turns out that one of our IP addresses in our virtual network has stopped responding to requests on ports 80 or 443.
>I've moved mangaupdates.com to a different IP and updated DNS, but it will take up to a day for the DNS updates to traverse the globe and become effective for everyone.
>Sorry for the trouble. We're sending in a support ticket, so maybe they can help us figure out what's wrong.
>I'll catch roughly 95% of titles with that.
You won't catch anything that's licensed, you'll miss your window for ripping from crunchyroll and mangabox, you won't see any of those forum only secret club fag groups, and then the groups that are hostile towards batoto.
Non-faggot screenshot for the hysterical anons.
Yeah, that shit is ancient.
This is modern shit.
When the faggot admins actually allow untranslated works. I've had them refuse officially published anthologies because they thought it was doujinshi, even though there's a publisher's name on the front cover.
This is the average online reading hater , a complete retard.
Fact is that there's nothing wrong with online reading manga, it's easier, faster and doesn't waste data to download, why would you even bother downloading anyway? Not like you'll ever read the manga again......
To summarize, online reading is for faggots.
>still caring about shit sites like MT, MU
pls recommend me some bloody gory mangas lol
Webtoon is the future fags, just look at this magnificence shit
Hello everybody, I'm looking for romance mangas, since lately I've had too much action and gore in general. Before you suggest I look in tags I've already looked through many tags, maybe 20+, before coming here, from Male Lead Falls in Love First to Strong Female/Male Lead and I've only found 1 or 2. I will try to be broad yet specific as possible. I've also left my reading list and complete list public just in case it would make it easier smile
Themes I'm looking for at the moment:
- Male lead falls in love first/male lead's unrequited love becomes requited
- Male lead is not extremely possessive, but does get jealous and pursues female lead in a non-creepy fashion
- Female lead doesn't blush 24/7 or becomes an idiot after being confessed to or pursued
- Female lead is sensible and doesn't desperately want a boyfriend because all her friends are getting one (can't believe how many of those I saw)
>Very gory and brutal manga
... with preferably the protagonist doing the ripping of limbs, and not having it done to the good guys.
Obviously, we have Berserk (the only turn off here is that the brutality also happens to the Protagonist's side), I think Bastard! had some brutality... Jackals and Riki-oh are other titles that tend to come to mind. And there's one other but I can't remember its name for the life of me that was very brutal...
Anyways, other suggestions for titles where we have the protagonist (preferably... not so much a fan of seeing the good guys loose their appendages, though I suppose gotta take both the good and the bad) going and ripping people limb from limb and have a lot of blood spewing?
Holy shit that tangible relief after a shitty night realizing I've been lazy and haven't updated my excel file in 6 months.
I don't understand this. Why do you need a list of stuff you are reading. I use MT to find new series ( by checking out new releases I've never heard of ), and to keep up with what's come out during the day. Just save what you read and it's a list of itself.
Then when skynet plunges us into the next glorious dark age you'll still be able to read your manga asuming you can keep a working generator.
I renamed mine.
>Why do you need a list of stuff you are reading
Because I follow over a hundred actively scanlated titles and have as many or more on hold to read later. Not to mention the list of completed.
Time shouldn't do a damn thing if you have the IP, it should just work. It's possible he's using some kind of stupid security package or antivirus that stops websites that don't go through DNS lookup to load, or something equally stupid. There should be nothing that stops the site from loading if you use the IP.
I download and read current chapters directly to my tablet and clear them once it starts to fill up too much to manage.
And I never really re read anything so saving it all is a waste of space.
If only scanlators bothered making a standard naming scheme for their shit we'd have a way easier time automating when a new chapter comes out, even simple keywords would do it without any complicated regex, shit.
why must they make this shit complicated.
>Did you already forget that /a/ saved everything available on MangaTraders and created a similar site?
You mean that FTP on life support?
>We can be productive if we want to.
Just not for the right things.
THIS! Mother of fucking God it's like they're doing it on purpose, next time I see a release named "ch49.zip" I'll tell them to fucking convert the entire string to fucking base64, because there'd be no shitty difference figuring out what the fucking manga is.
It probably has to do with scanlators being terrible people
>Still if scanlators are terrible people why do you support them by reading the crap they release? No one forced you to strip and bend over. :o
Ignoring your cringeworthy writing, I don't.
I mean sure, it was only "good" because there aren't alternatives that aren't even worse but fuck, what am I supposed to do now? Just bookmark every scanlator's page and check them all myself every day? Fuck. Why would anyone even fuck with it? There was nothing there to bother anyone at all anymore.
There's that, but on the other hand, it would be easy for _anyone_, including different DMCA-spewing faggots. Look at whatCrychyrolldid to MU in the past, and what some shits did even earlier with removing links to chapters and such.
Are we still talking about making a new database?
I started making a dia for a prototype over at https://github.com/MilesWilford/BeyondMangaUpdates
So far it's just sketching, but I do want serious thought on this. MU is supposedly coming back - they claim it was just ISP/DNS issues (probably a DDOS), but honestly... we need a robust alternative yesterday.
Starting with a MU scraper is fine and dandy, but it still doesn't fix the underlying problem - MU is an achilles heel for the entire scene.
Clearly I missed out on some stuff while asleep.
Damn, was that thrown together yesterday?
Wish I could see the beta.
Yup, it is exactly what manga needs. Manga Updates is the basket in which we're holding all of our eggs. We need more alternatives. Designed intelligently, they should be able to mirror each other's updates easily enough, but taking down any one of them shouldn't bring the whole scene to a crawl.
They can't be overly separate because otherwise you won't be able to track something like a changing manga name, weird chaptering issues (inevitable, given the disorganization of the scene), and other nonsense like that. Some of us can be bothered to read through every single release every day, but I respect the fact that others can't be assed. Any release db needs to have a fully trustworthy reading list option, and the only way to preserve that is to get a feed of activity about the series (changing names, new releases, status changes, et cetera). Which gives me more ideas for shit that needs to be tracked.
To be honest, something like that would need commitment, which I can't at this point of time.
There was some anon in the last thread.
I think that rlstrackr thing is pretty much dead. I checked the irc. Nothing happening.
Building a database isn't terribly hard, and making a prototype is easy in comparison. Populating it with data and giving it a surrounding webapps is hellishly difficult and I just don't have the skills or experience to do it right now.
I just want to strike while the iron's hot. By the end of the week, MU might be live again and folks will already be forgetting how broken the entire system is.
I was at least one of the anons in that thread. Manga is one of my biggest hobbies. I had trouble sleeping last night from the thought that this single site going down could take that away from me in any capacity.
It's my repo and it's not even a project. It's just a brainstorm. Whether or not it ends up vaporware is up to whether anyone else with any relevant skills steps up to taking action on it.
Woxxy's not in charge of the replacement, by the way
> Yup, it is exactly what manga needs.
No. We don't need multiple sites doing the same shit inefficiently. We need one site doing it most efficiently. You think if there were multiple sites, then releases would be added as efficiently as it can be done if it were in one place?
What we need is for the MU/or any kind of manga db to be public. IF they make all the stuff public then even in case of a shutdown things can be replaced.
Why should they be separate? Is there any real argument for this other than "it's easier to make?"
If we want to start things separate, that's all well-and-good, but longterm building a portable singular database that can be used and shared by a variety of sites should be the highest goal.
PS: If anyone has copies of the MU or MT databases (I don't need any actual files, just the information), submit it to the repo. Submit it to everything you can find. Make that shit as find-able as possible.
Release db can get all info about series and other stuff from manga db, but they should be different entities independent from each other. This will keep manga db safe from copyright nonsense and allow release db to be easily replaced
I have no argument against this other than a very simple one - even if it is all-in-one, so long as it's modular and well-organized, cutting out a piece of it in response to DMCA/whatever shouldn't be a problem.
And if you keep dbs and source open, replacing carefully-broken features client side is also trivial.
It is, but DNSes take a long time to traverse the globe. You should be able to see it again within 48 hours assuming no new failures, at least according to the mods + common sense.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Yeah, it just came back for me. Try switching to OpenDNS or GoogleDNS if you still don't see it. You should be doing that anyway.
You don't know how the internet works. That's fine, internets is hard. But stop talking until you do some research.
Someone give a screenshot of todays/yesterdays releases page so I that I can see all the releases.
> c5 Seifuku adventure
Nice. I dumped till c4 yesterday.
Oh fuck me.
Alright /a/, how the hell am I supposed to individually keep track of who's scanlating what and when they're releasing now?
Because there's still no MT alternative.
flushing DNS didn't work. Maybe it's because of the time it takes to propagate?
That said, isn't DNS supposed to map domain name to IP address?
Can someone give me the direct ip address? Or am I missing some internet knowhow?
More arguments for why we should be making a database-connector site with a sparse front-end and a strong API. Desktop clients doing the legwork would be so much superior. They could even have plugins that allow for some true copyright-violating fun.
Jesus Dandy Christ , I almost killed myself there.
I just found out that's there's a very little number of series over 9 in rating.
People over hype that series alot. It was good in the beginning but now it feels too long. The whole coma and suffering arc seemed dragged out for the sake of adding more drama and tension
>It was good in the beginning but now it feels too long
Exactly my thoughts, the oneshot did what it needed, 2 volumes of serialization were enough to close up the story.
Everything else just feels like milking the cow.
>Everything else just feels like milking the cow.
It doesn't 'feel' like, it is like that.
It's in a weekly magazine, they're notorious for being greedy and not ending shit when it should have ended.
What the heck were you looking at every time you checked your list?
It's always been there.
I don't care about the community, it's probably toxic like every other large online anime/manga community.
Use MU for what it's supposed to be used, a tool to track the releases of scans and finding new manga/artists/writers.
>deviantart shounen shit
Are you fucking kidding me?
>What the heck were you looking at every time you checked your list?
The release page
>google chang ge xing
>crappy chink shoujo
>google tower of god
>sasuke darkness with crappy art
>mfw people actually reading gook deviantart shit
>"the art can't be that bad"
fucking christ. looks like the shit art they push into
ching chong shoujo seems fine though, aside from the faces looks like Miis