Let's have Rider thread.
most of the servant are fictional and those that arent are given bullshit spam made up attacks that make no sense anyway
>gilgamesh known for being bearded big guy who can solo anything in CQC
>in fate hes prety boy in golden armor who beam spam everything into submission
>alexandros is preety boy who enforced shaving and he achieved most of glory thanks to superb army build by his predecessors
>in fate hes bearded big guy riding chariot
Come on son, more people know about Goku then fucking Gilles de Rais
Just in case this isn't bait:
>gods, spirits and demons have all existed at some point in the Nasu verse, so Medusa isn't that far out there. Shirou's existence is more anomalous than figures from ancient greek mythology, and you secondaries should find out why in the next couple of weeks.
>servants are summoned using catalysts - physical artifacts that have some relevance to their lives
>half the grail war happens outside of Fuyuki with various factions politicking for these catalysts to get what they reckon will be the best servant for them
Let's have a poll, rather.
>nopan and black both rigged
>∴ nopan and black worst fags
>∴ white a best
>implying you can make Haruhi do anything
>implying the viewed juxtaposition of pure, divine, white pantsu, with Rider's skintight, sultry, purple bodysuit over her luscious, delightfully feminine legs isn't the greatest concept in the conceivable universe.
>and you secondaries
>pretending you aren't bottom of the barrel for reading Type-Moon shit
>implying Medusa rides Pegasus bareback commando
Pegasus has EX rank Luck
>trying to insult people's taste
>You must choose. But choose wisely, for as the true Grail will bring you life, the false Grail will take it from you.
Nigga have you seen The Last Crusade? The correct answer is sweater because that's the most plain looking version.
Quite simply nasuverse operates off the premise of all myths and legends being true, though they might have some pretty big differences.
Technically you could try to summon jesus, but he possesses enough divinity that he'd basically be given a choice to compete and would most likely go "A brutal fight predicated on greed solely to sate one's material desires? Nope, not interested"... and if you did actually manage to summon him, he'd be utter crap because WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU SUMMON A PERSON WHO ISNT EXPRESSLY A FUCKING "WARRIOR" INTO A SITUATION WHERE YOU EXPECT TO BE AT CONFLICT WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO ALSO HAVE FUCKOFF POWERFUL WARRIORS AT THEIR SIDE.
If you want good biblical servants you're not looking for Jesus. You want people like Moses, Ramses II or Cain or Joshua.
Shirou and Shiki have different outlooks where maids are concerned.
>Quite simply nasuverse operates off the premise of all myths and legends being true
It's been explained that Heroic Spirits are beings that heroes whom belief has been gathered upon become after death, but heroes of myths and legends can be born by the gathering of belief even if they didn't exist. Also, there are those who those who make a contract of some sort with the world when they were alive and as compensation become Heroic Spirits after death. In the Fifth War, Hasan Sabaha was a hero that actually existed, and Herakles and Medusa are ones of legends.
I've always assumed that referred to their nature as Divine Spirits. It makes no sense that a set of gods was entirely fictional, when the entire premise behind them is that belief in them gives them form. It also doesn't mesh, at least in Medusa's case, that their background can be completely different from the legend. I can buy some heroes being belief only, but not two of the most notable of Greek mythology.
Why not summon your waifu so you could live happily forever?
Or how about just Power Man so you instantly win?
Yes, but being "ones of legend" can be that they were not born as humans, but "blah blah blah." If they were given form only by legends, wouldn't you expect their backstory to reflect it at least a little? Medusa points out like five different things just recounting her past.
GoB vs Jesus beamspam
Ea vs Ultimate Coordinator plot armor
Rider is a known slut and would not settle down with anyone
>implying my mother left me
>implying im not eating her delicous curry right thsi moment
>implying Rider isnt a slut
Its ok, I love sluts too
How do you guys feel about saber and rider together.
No thats Caster:
Same Hair colour
Both Tragic figures
Both are great at magic
Both just want to be with their husbando
Both are moe and the best girls for their respective age group
>dat Sakura in the end
Truly the best pair of Master and Servant.
I know you love sluts. You love your mom, after all.
I predict that the game is rigged and all 6 choices lead to a bad end, so I choose top right, if only so that I might enjoy the most pleasure possible before I inevitably die.
Pirate cake Rider allowed?
Why is every rider such a bro.
>Class designed to lose grailwar
>Still fucking OP because all of them gets NP to summon their mounts in addition to everything else
Bagels' bigger in theory.
I naturally checked who had the biggest boobs
and apparently it's this?
What the fuck is this?
Not exactly right.
Archer only has to get a good NP. Beyond that, you could get a servant with E or D in all stats.
Lancer might be the best class, for a blind summon, then saber.
But Rider is still the on a shared 2nd place for strongest blind summon class. Mostly because Mounts are fucking OP.
Riders aren't not meant for typical Grail War combat like the knight classes are meant for.
Mount gets destroyed by laser beams
Not fast enough unless you're Achilles or have a mount that this 4fast4me (Medusa, Perseus and Ozymandias fall into this category)
Aww, she just wants to like her big sisters.
>have higher burst speed than Rider
Yes, if that Rider is not Achilles
>A Noble Phantasm whose activation is usually triggered by stepping out of “Tempestuous Immortal Chariot.”
>It is an embodiment of the legend that he is the fastest among all heroes of all eras.
All classes except Saber, Archer and Lancer.
Real tier list is something like
1/2: Archer and Rider
1/2: Lancer and Saber
3. Everything else
It all depends on if you view OP mounts and the best NP to be better than high stats.
Even then, that tier list is only valid for blind summoning. Once you start using catalysts, thats out of the window.
You underestimate how ridicules mounts can get.
Image what sorta monster a Age of Gods horse can be.
If every servant is subpar, Rider is going to be the strongest.
>If every servant is subpar
Every class can be the best if other classes summon shit.
Just think about a grail war where everyone else summons shit and you get no name Assassin.
Assassin is going to be on the same power level in every, single, war. Because they realized if they allowed real heroic spirits to be summoned as Assassins, with PC and the other OP skills, they would have a extremely strong servant.
Rider is going to have a fucking monster horse, and a shitty NP.
Every other class will have a shitty NP.
Its sorta the same if every class is good. Rider is going to have a good NP, AND a fucking monster horse.
>trying to grasp how every Rider scene in the VN would have played out differently if Medusa had the same appearance as her sisters
It'll be glorious.