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How are you guys enjoying moonlight sculptor so far?

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How are you guys enjoying moonlight sculptor so far?
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not at all
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I'm on the volume 15, Weed is one hell of a MC.
I really hope that one day it will have an anime or at least a manga...
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It's shit.
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>>115155092
I hope for some illustration, i have always wondered how weed looks with his armor and shit
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>>420chan
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>>115155177
Yeah me too.
Same with how his Orc transformation actually look, or Seoyoon and her Berserker armor.
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>>115155177
closest thing I can imagine
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>>115154601
It's great.
Weed is a pretty fun MC. And the war scenes are awesome. I wish the translations weren't so rough.

I heard something about a web-toon or something recently though.
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part of me want to see more Guild warfare

how long until the battle between Badray and Weed?
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id read korean shit if their names werent so retarded. e.g., yoo soeung. it pisses me off
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>>115159213
At least in this it's mostly game character names, until you get to the mess that is irl chapters where like 4 characters have essentially the same name.
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>>115154601
>MMO crap with muh extraordinary gamer MC fighting anything anyone with muh extraordinary gamer mind
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>>115154601
>gamer mind
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>>115159493
>MMO crap with muh extraordinary poorfag MC fighting anything anyone with muh hard work

fixed
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>>115159493
And yet it's still better than the high school harem crap that makes up 90% of the series out there
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>>115159493
really it's shown the main difference between Weed and all the other gamers is that other gamers treat the game as a game while Weed treats it like a job because it basically is.

to them it's fun, to him it's money
pic related, it's the MC
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>>115154601
>mmos shit
>korean trash
No thank you
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Just a shame they are refusing to translate volumes 21+
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>>115160023
Just make up what happens, you'll be about as accurate as half the translations.
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Is this again MMO shit?
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>>115159625
>And yet it's still better than the high school harem crap
That not saying much duh. Naruto is better than the high school harem crap that makes up 90% of the series out there too
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>>115154601
Tried but MC pisses me off to much.
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>>115154601
Is this as based as kokou no hito?
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>>115159622
More like jewing everyone.
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>>115159575
>gamer mind
Cringe thread?
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>>115160286
Welcome to 2014. More to come in the future.
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I'm tired of him being so selfish and such an asshole. He needs to treat Seyoon better.
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>>115160373
>he an extraordinary gamer
>he an extraordinary Expoilter
>he an extraordinary jew too
So much self insert it make me wanna CRAWLINGGGGGGGGGG
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Sculptor class is simply the worst class
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>>115160485
Shhhhh! he cold and lonely he a part of the darkness and he need no friends or gf
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>>115160485
Weed is under the impression that women aren't shit but hoes and tricks

though to be fair he's better than most gook MCs when it comes to treating women.
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>>115160505
Yeah, I fucking hate this shit.

But the worst part is, they're spreading like ebola these days. Probably because of that show that begins with S and ends with A.

Enjoy all those self insert fantasy anime in 2015. And possibly even 2016 too.
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Remember the teacher Geomchi's are all way more dangerous than Weed ingame and his class isn't op
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>>115154601
>mmo shit now with korean crap
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>>115160603
>Weed is under the impression that women aren't shit but hoes and tricks
Is he wrong?
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>>115160689
No, he a part of the darkness squad, no gf allowed
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>>115160505
not a very good gamer as much as a grinder.

He just grinds shit obsessively until he wins
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>>115160769
>darkness squad
>not dark gamers
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>>115160771
Make him play Dark Souls.
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>>115160668
He himself isn't OP, but the fact that he can make and bring these strong as hell statues to life and can turn into a strong as hell skeleton when he dies is pretty OP.
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>>115160655
>begins with S and ends with A
Which one's that?
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>>115160771
So he an extraordinary grinder too? just great fucking great amazing whoah
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>>115160769
>>115160585
he's not dark and lonely

he just thinks everyone is after his shekels
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>>115160806
>dark gamers
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>115160876
That very dark and lonely, perfect for self insert poor fags
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>>115160858
He's that guy on youtube that maxes out the stats of all his jRPG characters before the first level because autism.
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>>115160962
perhaps the same can be said for all jews
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This is now DUELWIELDDDD thread
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Funny thing most of these post have shit to do with LMS

though I guess
>Korean
>VRMMO
tend to have red-flags to them.
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>>115161077
Sora...
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So, which one has the worst DARKNESS MC? This one or the one on Tate no Yuusha?
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>>115161451
Tate no Yuusha is just edgy shit.
>MUH ANGER IS GONNA BURN YOU
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I like the parts where the MC commands NPCs and jews random people. The worst parts are the ones involving his friends and the martial arts guys. And the real-life interactions are shit.
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>>115161451
Both. We are the same, in DARKNESS
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>>115161615
And the fanbase is even worse.
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>>115161451
This one doesn't have darkness, he's just a jew. Even the "dark gamer" stuff is just a website that helps him make money.
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>>115161771
He just an extraordinary self insert
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>>115161771
>Chapter 1: Birth of a Dark Gamer

>Just imagine a noble, elegant and picturesque life of poverty that you might find in a soap opera, and no matter how poor you were, it still didn’t discourage you from showing unconditional love for strangers or even sharing your piece of bread with a warm smile.

>If anyone ever claimed that such an illusion existed in reality, Lee Hyun would beat him to a pulp, and strike them once more to finish him off.

Pretty DARK there.
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>>115161937
>Birth of a Dark Gamer
Jesus fucking christ
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>>115161937
By volume 20 he is one of the most profitable gamers alive, the top gaming tv network runs multi-part specials of his adventures.

Doesn't make him less of a jew.
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>>115161451
Weed is paranoid and a jew, but not really dark

he has friends, he enjoys himself, he has genuine sympathy for others, and I'm pretty sure the whole point of the series is to teach weed the true meaning of christmas and all that.

Shield hero's MC even has the "Hate" status effect on him, so he kinda wins
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>>115161937
>If anyone ever claimed that such an illusion existed in reality, Lee Hyun would beat him to a pulp, and strike them once more to finish him off.
>and strike them once more to finish him off
>and strike them once more to finish him off
He's just like me
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>>115161847
Pretty much.
>>115161937
Don't underestimate jews.

If you want to read something really, REALLY bad, try Arifureta. I dropped it fairly early on but it is easily the worst piece of shit I've even read. There's plenty of DARKNESS for you fags.
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>>115161937
that's more proletariat rage than anything
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>>115162090
>he is one of the most profitable gamers alive, the top gaming tv network runs multi-part specials of his adventures
Dat self insert. Holy shit. Truly EXTRAORDINARY
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Since when was being a jew considered dark?
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>>115160839
>He himself isn't OP
In volume 21 chapter the status shows that he is level 392 with Strength 1,378 Agility 1,065 by adding them up and them in 5 (the stats that every player gains when leveling up) It shows that his supposed "level" is 482 and just with those 2 stats

Yes he is OP
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>>115161937
>Birth of a Dark Gamer
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>>115162245
>by adding them up and
divide
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>>115162214
Really that had more to do with the hype of RR than the MC

They pretty much say that Royal Road overthrown Starcraft as the biggest thing in Korea, and probably even to the world at large.

>>115162245
those stats don't matter since the game goes to Disgaea levels of ridiculous

I think I read one of the spoils Weed is offered a quest by Balkan, Weed refuses, and then Balkan completely cripples his ass
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>>115161937
Cringe all over my body
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>>115162170
>Arifureta
Oh God, that shit.

It's bad enough that the translation is Google Translate tier.

So, how strong the MC is right now anyway? Last time I checked, he has stats that are in the ten thousands (the hero, a.k.a his "rival only has thousands at best. Even his harem can defeat him easily) and that he just wiped out an army of a hundred thousand demons by making an orbital laser cannon. I shit you not.

God, I want to read the most ridiculously OP MC from this genre, just to see how ridiculous it can get.

And the MC wears a fucking eyepatch. Jesus Christ.
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>>115161937
more like Birth of a Dork Gamer
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>>115162416
>Disgaea levels of ridiculous
you mean he goes to the past and levels up to lvl 800?
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>>115162306
in this series "dark gamer" just means "jew"

this chapter he sold his old account, got an assload of money, had it taken away by the mafia to pay denbts and then realized "you know, I can make money off of a video game!"
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>>115162416
>They pretty much say that Royal Road overthrown Starcraft as the biggest thing in Korea, and probably even to the world at large
Pretty irony that korean can't make game for shit. All their games are fucking terrible
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>>115162525
Whatever you day, dark gamer
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>>115162527
yeah but if someone in any country were to make a game like RR they'd be swimming in money granted they would spend oceans of it trying to develop the damn thing.
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>>115162515
>>115162605
more like JEW gamer
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>>115162506
Don't worry. Frieza has 500k stats. And that's just his first form.

He'll kick his ass for sure.
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>>115162662
DARK JEW gamer
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>>115155177
There are a few pictures uploaded on some russian site.
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>>115162733
>dark jew
jews (and weed) are god's chosen people, they can't be dark
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>>115162783
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As much as Weed wants to be an amoral jew, he can't top pic related.

He hasn't raped women after all.
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>>115162843
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>>115154601
>mmos trash
>korean trash
What could go wrong?
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>>115162903
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>>115162876
Weed is still a virgin because he believes losing virginity cost money.
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>>115162911
>Weed
420blazeit DARK gamer
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>>115162970
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>>115162783
>>115162843
>>115162903
>>115162970
That looks nothing like i have ever thought
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>>115163052
Because they just grab some random pictures
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>>115163027
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>>115162876
>He hasn't raped women after all.
I thought this series was supposed to be from Korea.
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>>115163126
Too busy being a DARK gamer. he cold and need no gf
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>>115162911
it's surprisingly good for mmo and gook trash
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>>115163094
This was art for some potential manhwa or webcomic or someshit but nothing has started so we can assume the negotiations failed
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>>115163215
why are you repeating the same damn phrases over and over?

I mean you didn't even read the series
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>>115163263
That look like some horrible deviantart shit
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>>115163263
thank goodness, the art is shit
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>>115163288
Why would you need to read/watch something in order to troll it?
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>>115162876
>MC going around raping people
Jesus Christ, why are the MCs of this genre all psychos?
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>>115163362
Because gamers are rapists?Don't you watch the news?
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>>115163362
>>115162876
Rou never raped

I mean he forcefed elves aphrodisiac, broke their spirits, and turned them into sex slaves, but he didn't rape them (for one, rape doesn't count if it's elves).

Rou has a strict "no raping" policy
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>>115163420
Re:monster is not an mmo

it's a reincarnation series
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I started reading it a few days ago and I like it as much as Mushoku Tensei.Really looking forward to when he can summon vampire and brings another 400 levels of bloodsucking whoopass, perhaps even accompanied by a statue-fu.

I lost it hard when he forgot to bring his ice statue and started wailing that it's his fault for being too generous.
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>>115163263
>i'm may look like an ordinary guy but you will regret when you meet me in game because i'm a gamer

Heh
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>>115163534
It has the mechanics of a game. Its a game without calling it a game.
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>>115163549
Bingryong > Van Hawk > *
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The large scale battles are really cool, but the real life stuff is bland and self insert to a degree I haven't seen for a couple months. I was going to say longer, but Mahouka is about the same amount of obvious self inserting.
The worst part is obviously how the author goes out of his way all constantly to say that Weed does stuff in game that no one else would do, even going as far as saying stuff like, "Would you do this? No, you wouldn't." Hardcore grinding and greed is nothing new to MMO players, and I know plenty of people that would and have grinded just as hard as Weed has (including myself), regardless of how super special awesomesauce the author thinks that makes his Gary Stu.
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This thread is absolutely DARKNESS. Praise the DARK gaymer
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>>115163643
Stop hyping me anon!
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>>115154601
>gook shit mmo
>>>/v/
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Why has /a/ fallen so far that the shitposters don't even need to try anymore?
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You know, reading all this shit makes me want to write a fanfic with my OC being even more OP than the already existing MC, just to see the reaction of the fandom.

Too bad I can't be bothered to read through all this crap and make a summary of the existing plotline and worldbuilding as the needed basis.
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>>115163726
for me in order

NPC lore > Guild warfare > large scale battles > preperation for war > grinding segments (for the inventory porn) > Party moments > dungeon crawl > IRL shit
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It's the Korean work I've enjoyed the most so far.

Seeing as its competition is garbage like Freezing and The Breaker that doesn't say much but it's above average for the web novels I've read.
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>>115163932
It gets more bearable at and after the first huge battle, but it's so awful up to that point it isn't really worth it.
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>>115163927
Well, what do you expect from people who enjoy some shitty mmo gook shit?
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>>115163927
>korean trash
>mmo LN trash
Yeah i wonder why
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>>115163927
shitposters never tried
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>>115163994
The Gamer
Tower of God (first part, second part is ass)
Shin Angyo Onshi
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>>115163927
Seeing as nobody is biting and it's most likely just one person who hasn't even read the thing I don't see a problem here.
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>>115164003
Pic related?
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>>115164060
first two are webcomic garbage

last one is kinda shitty in hindsight
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>>115163362
Momonga from overlord is a chill dude.
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>>115164085
>reading korean mmo LN trash
Why? do you hate yourself?
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>>115162783
KAWACHIIII
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>>115164119
>last one is kinda shitty in hindsight
How do you figure? It's my favorite manga
pls no bully
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>>115163263
>For those who are interested in the Moonlight Sculptor Webtoon, here’s what the author had to say about it:
>“The webtoon is currently in the works. I have already seen the first chapter, and it’s in good quality. However, since it has just begun, there’s a lot of trial and error going on, and thus, the progress is slow.”
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>>115164060
>webtoon shit
>Shin Angyo Onshi
Its go downhill when they introduce ki blast shit and the rest in just meh
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>>115164246
>webtoon
Double the cancer
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>>115164060
I've read like 80 chapters of Tower of God and I didn't like it. I mean the art is pretty decent but the MCs is one of the most dull ones I've ever seen.

I've had Shin Angyo Onshi in my backlog for like four years now but I like waiting with series which looks like they could be great (apart from ongoing ones) and watching them when I'm in a good mood for it. After six years I haven't watched Cowboy Bebop yet either, but that's mostly because I'm being turned off from seeing all the vermin acting retarded about it.

Haven't picked up the gamer yet because the premise didn't excite me but if it's worthy of mention I'll give it a go.
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>>115164391
>the art is pretty decent
Are you fucking kidding me?
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>Hurr durr dark gamer he's so edgy
Weed isn't edgy, he's a literal fucking JEW.
He's the guy who goes around with noob stuff on him 90% of the time so most people who encounter him think he's some noobish shitty sculptor and lower their guard and pay the price.
FULL PRICE MOTHERFUCKER THERE'S NO DISCOUNT HERE!
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>>115164391
Shin Angyo Onshi is fucking awesome.
One if not the BEST final battle and ending I have ever saw.

The Gamer is pretty good too, you will enjoy it a lot if you're into theorycrafting.
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>>115160311
>Naruto is better than the high school harem crap that makes up 90% of the series out there too
What?
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>>115164455
Like people care about your shitty korean trash dark gamer
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>>115164391
Baam is a pretty shitty protagonist the whole way through, but everything else is good except for the art of course. Not sure how any could call it decent early on.
Korean Berserk is fantastic, I can understand waiting though I suppose.
Don't let a bunch of autistic faggots prevent you from watching Cowboy Bebop. It's universally liked for a reason, hell even people that don't watch anime like Cowboy Bebop.
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>>115164455
he's sort of a cross between Hayate and Scrooge Mcduck

but a complete jew
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>>115164455
You're a fucking idiot for even trying to communicate with trolls.
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>>115161937
>Birth of a Dark Gamer

Anyone with any taste in literature will drop this shit right when they read that title.
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>>115164561
>That part when he was making people getting rock for him to sculpt the tomb of the late king

I couldn't help but imagine it like pic related, especially with the little girl.
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>>115164725
What do you expect from people who enjoy shitty mmo korean trash?
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>>115154601
>korean shit
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>>115164778
The same thing goes for any VRMMO garbage honestly
The whole concept needs to be burned off the face of the earth because it's always the most unrealistic and contrived shit ever. Even fantasy stories are more believable.
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>>115164848
This man has the right idea.
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I get the feeling that people believe every mmo series is basically SAO

like saying all battle shounens are Naruto
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>>115164237
It's not even a manga, the fuck are you on?
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>>115161365
It's the usual shitposting when it comes to korean things. The last one, and the worst one as that I can remember lately was one about manhwa in general. Cavalier of the Abyss had one as well, with less shitposting, but still.
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>>115165121
I believe every mmo series is self insert garbage crap
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>>115165121
>like saying all battle shounens are Naruto

which is untrue because all battle shounen are DBZ
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>>115165211
Can you self insert in Log Horizon?
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>>115165167
>Cavalier of the Abyss

That shit deserves to get shitposted upon.
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Check out my book fags
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>>115165296
Of course you can.

I always want to be that smart guy that can just figure out everything while being around cute girls that idolize me.

And I already got the glasses.
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>>115165354
I'm sorry for your loss.
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>>115165354
I'm jelly
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>>115165167
Because korean stuff is mostly horrible, and that webtoon shit is just awful
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>>115161675
I don't like the martial art guys as well, but I enjoy reading about the college part. Specially anything to do with Seoyoon.
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>>115165354
>buying korean shit
kek
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>>115165459
I don't understand how Korean stuff can so fucking bad, it's like they can't form a plot for save the life and when they do they fuck half way through.
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>>115165384
is there a piece of fiction one cannot self-insert into?
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>>115163263
As much as I like the series, I couldn't stand the idea of a webcomic. Part of me likes it because there is not illustrations.
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>>115165466
>hot girlgamer playing mmo
That just pathetic
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>>115165511
>implying I'm not korean
nice try guy

but honestly it feels like the author is dragging it out at this point
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>>115165580
I'm sorry.
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>>115165546
They try to imitate manga too much and the end is just a cluster fuck
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>>115165555
Boku no Pico.
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>>115163263
kek
are you kidding me?
don't try to assume shit when u can't into gook language
the author clearly states that's the fanart he received via email.
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Ah I'm almost done with vol19 now.

Everything that takes place outside of the game seems to only be there to fellate weed's image.

>that stupid "princess knight" game
>that stupid MT trip to the island
>that stupid cultural festival bar
>that stupid slave auction
>that stupid world tour over the holidays with conveniently placed "record your life" homework


Also the not at all hidden harem shit.

It's interesting, I read it for a laugh, but Weed is annoying with his jesus bullshit thanks to the self-inserting mary sue author fuckery. Also the korean cultural overtones are overbearing, but I'll keep reading anyway because the only thing that really fucks me off is the "my sister is a sex-crazy maniac for me" trope and frustratingly annoying women, to which seeyeon or w/e her name is fits the category, but doesnt appear often.

The girls in this aren't so bad, so I can keep reading.

Also fuck the geomchis.
>>
Man, I fucking hate MC. Literally Korean Kirito, with sister wanting to fuck him and everything.

The only redeeming quality is that the MMO world is actually interesting,the main heroine is cute and I want to see more of the orc psychologist/trainer relationship.
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>>115165555
Pun pun or some depressing like Sundome, Homunculus
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>>115165569
Seoyoon kinda feels like Sando from Shin Angyo Onshi

>most beautiful
>strongest
>can easily kick the MCs ass
>mute
>pretty devoted to the MC no matter what he does
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>>115165727
Truly extraordinary self insert
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>>115165714
>Sundome
Are you for real? I'm 100% confident that the MC of Sundome is the author self insert and that guy have a huge pee fetish.
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>>115165668
>boku no pico
>not self insert as fuck

they insert plenty of times
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>>115165149
Isn't it?
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>>115165701
there's literally only two love interests in the novel and her sister isn't into incest.

She just got beaten the fuck out of Weed (literally a broken arm and two broken legs stated by the author) when she was a delinquent (when their family was poor) and then came to respect weed for the shit he did for her.
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>>115165771
hard to say it's a self-insert fantasy when the main heroine dies
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>>115165701
>that stupid "princess knight" game
>that stupid slave auction
>that stupid world tour over the holidays with conveniently placed "record your life" homework

Explain these.
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>>115165816
Oh I mean incest trope is what makes me insta drop things. Also harem because everyone wants his D, even if he is a herbivore
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So what we learned today is that every single manga/novel/manhwa/webcomic is a selfinsert piece of shit. Honestly why do you fags even visit 4chan at this point?
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>all this self insert mary sue mmo crap
Fuck this shitty mmo LN trend
>>
>MC is about to do something,anything
>let me tell you this story from the past when MC was a poor kid and how he had to do that thing with his eyes closed and tuberculosis and 16 hours a day
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>>115165920
No, i only hate extraordinary self insert mary sue like this piece of shit
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>>115165889
There's like three that wants his dick but one of them gets cut off around Volume 25 ish and the other gets completely forgotten.

>>115165879
author himself specifically stated that wed needed real life moments where people could self-insert and feel good about themselves
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>>115165984
which tends to be everything by the way you post
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>>115165927
>the birth of a Dark Gamer
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>>115165984
But don't you know?Everything is self insert?
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>>115165920
As far as chinese novels go, I've been enjoying Kill No More lately.

It's kinda like Oedipus if he was raised by assassins.

Or a better description would be Shiki's dad from Tsukihime's high school adventures.
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>>115165925
>>115165927
These stereotypical LN trends reflect the majority of the popular surface Korean LNs.
There's actually stuff that doesn't have all this pretentious Mary Sue shit and the MC actually has to follow rules that doesn't have him asspull the last moment or get a random powerup.
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>reading mmo LN shits
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>>115166076
my problem with that is that it tries to do several different plots all at once

>I'm an assassin that sworn never to kill again
>however now I'm drafted to go into a magical school
>however now I have to disguise myself as a knight and become the top of the knight
>however now I have to be a prince of a foreign country due to a love I had long ago

and so on
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>>115166105
Yeah I know ,I just want to vent out.

I'm still reading Moonlight Sculptor for the game world, but sometimes I feel like punching my screen because of the cringe. It doesn't help that /a/ doesn't talk about LNs often, so I rarely get to talk about my frustrations with fellow anons who feel the same.

Since we're on the topic, what recommendations do you have? I got into Rakuin but it's barely translated.
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>mmo crap
Fuck of to /v/ sub human
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>>115166019
>author himself specifically stated that wed needed real life moments where people could self-insert and feel good about themselves

Oh wow, that's just sad.
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>>115166019
horse shit
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>>115161937
>Birth of a Dark Gamer
Not even once.
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>>115166249
Lineage2, Ultima, SW were great nigga.
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>>115166262
That just pathetic
>i'm an ordinary guys
>but i'm a special snowflake grinder gamer
>the most beautiful, strongest gurl in my school playing video game too
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>>115166240
>I got into Rakuin but it's barely translated.

/a/ only cares about the stuff that's translated

R:M, MT and Shield hero were popular mostly because someone took the time out to translate them on a daily basis, and when the first two slowed the popularity died.
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>>115166327
It's great when you still a 13 year old edgy kid
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>>115163726
I thought self-insert was the author living through the character, I can see Weed being the author since he likes games, but then Tatsuya should be the self insert of an engineer/programmer.

But Gary Stu is not necessary self insert character, and vice versa. Why are you mixing both terms?
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>>115166453
>self-insert
Mostly the audience
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>>115166366
I can't wait for the third one to die.
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>>115166403
Was the "edgy" part really necessary? Is it really the first word that comes to your mind when you think of MMO players?
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>>115166156
>entering MMO LN threads to complain about them

Who are you kidding? If you had no interest in them, you wouldn't be here.
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>>115165841
For real?

I was waiting to read the rest of it since some years ago when I had to drop it for studies.
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>>115166240
The major problem is that the majority of those novels aren't translated for a reason. People literally cannot self-insert themselves as those who struggle to live after each battle and won't translate it, because of the fact that normal people can't get into it.
A great example would be Dark Mage (the one where there's a shitty rendition of a manhwa) and Red Destiny. I have them, but they're in Korean.
An example that still retains the notion of a self-insert but doesn't have crazy asspulls would be Haroon. This is pretty fun because it starts as a VRMMOLN but ends as a Sci-fi Fantasy LN.
Other LNs literally state from the start that the MC will be broken as fuck and and then from there he becomes even stronger and eventually become a god or something.
There are logical novels as well as illogical self-inserting ones, I'd say most are logical, but never make it through the translation scene.

>>115166453
Weed is actually not the author's self-insert, he says in his blogpost that the author himself self-inserts as Geomchi which is pretty fucking stupid.
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>>115166561
Agreed.
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>>115165569
I meant how the MC thinks she is the worst person out there, not about her in particular. How he often misunderstand everything and see it like she blackmailing him, thus doing anything she wants.
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>>115166717
>People literally cannot self-insert themselves as those who struggle to live after each battle and won't translate it, because of the fact that normal people can't get into it.

Normal people love DBZ, so I don't see your point.
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>korean LN
Ripoff Japan again huh?
>>
I prefer Ark to MLS.

>>115166717
>The major problem is that the majority of those novels aren't translated for a reason.

From reading a bunch of barely translated LNs lately, I can see this being true. A lot of them are garbage, which is understandable since they tend to be written by NEET teenagers or something.
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>>115166717
>I FIGHT WITH MY DETERMINATION
>MY BODY IS OUT BUT MY SPIRIT WON'T REST
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>>115165727
>most beautiful
What series was it that the one of the harem be literally the most beautiful girl in the game and any males that see her all want to propose to her?
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>korean crap
>MMOs crap
Double the cancer
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>>115166949
Can be powerful if used correctly.

Like a mother protecting her child or something.
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>>115166850
Goku struggles, but not to the point where death is seen as something serious. In the novels that I mentioned, the MC gets their bodies deformed.

>>115166912
It's the ones that have shit about reincarnation or "i have to make money as a dark gamer" that ruin the image of LNs. There's plenty where MC obviously has talent and that's why he can kill x number of enemies.

>>115166949
Happens rarely in good novels and alot in third-rate korean novels. I can't deny that.

>>115166866
kek
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>>115166717
>>115166912
people translating them are a bunch of amateur translators

you're reading a series that's worth a damn that you want people to enjoy more than SAO-clone #2083293, start translating it.
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>But to the surprise of those who came here for the first time, besides the famous Sphinx statue they found there other sculptures of gazelle, kangaroo, deer, rabbit and other low-level monsters with sad expressions on their faces.

>Looking at those sculptures many players felt guilty as in the beginning they were slaughtering great numbers of those harmless herbivores.

>So it was no surprise that after reading the engraved words their hands were reaching to their pockets.

>''For looking at the statue pay as much as your heart tells you.
>All the collected money will be donated!
>We will use them to help those in need.''

>Every visitor was leaving a copper or silver coin.
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>>115167193
truly the jew of our generation
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>>115166866
That corean for ya
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>>115166561
>>115166775
Why?
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>>115167380
Because it's shit and the fanbase is cancerous. They have a thread up on /a/ everyday at every hour.
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>>115167578
>Because it's shit
Opinions

>fanbase is cancerous
They mostly keep it to themselves so who cares?

>They have a thread up on /a/ everyday at every hour.
So do a fuckload of others series, most popular anime are much worse in that regard actually.
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>>115166717
>>115167129
The whole "every series is wish fulfilment and self insert!" shtick was started up by Mushoku Tensei faggots who could not deny that their series was wishfulfillment heaven so they decided to bring every other series down to their level.

I've seen some of them vehemently arguing that stuff like Gungrave and Fist of the North Star and pretty much every fiction in existence is self insert fantasy bullshit because "there's someone out there who wants to be a badass gunner so it's wish fulfillment for them!"
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>>115164152
>Momonga from overlord is a chill dude

Not really, he has zero qualms about killing humans. In the second novel he
keeps some of the soldiers he captured to be used in human experiments.

IIRC, they were testing how healing magic and the conservation of mass worked by chopping off the soldier's limbs, feeding said limbs back to the soldier, and then seeing if the soldier would starve to death.

What's more, one of the soldiers gets randomly selected as the guy doing the chopping while another one gets to be the experimental subject.


So yeah, Momonga can't really be called sane by human standards. Of course, the Floor Guardians even exceed Momonga with things like Demiurge's plans for a rape-cave and things like that.
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>>115168320
Isn't that a game world?

They're just NPCs dude, who cares if you kill them they're just pixels and AI.
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>>115168320
>rape cave
But Momonga doesn't even have a dick.
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>>115168484
The premise of the series is that the game was ending and the MC got stuck inside of his character, think of what happened with Log Horizon but apparently only affecting him.
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>>115168712
Yes. Meaning that everyone inside the game was an NPC previously.

In my eyes they'd still be NPCs, just like I don't consider landers in LH real humans.
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>>115168320

Holy shit. I want to read that.
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>>115168768
I fail to see how you can considering that they act and have feelings exactly like humans.
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>>115159825
So he's an EVE Online player.
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>>115168830
Pfft, they say the same things about women and I know where that lead me.
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>>115165879
>that stupid "princess knight" game
Lil' sis being the princess and him the knight in a school festival. That made him known in tv as the knight and college mates and teachers use it as his nickname. It happened some time before he enrolled in the college though.
>that stupid slave auction
Him being part of an auction of people, he had to serve as the slave of the person who pays for him, and so he does.
>that stupid world tour over the holidays with conveniently placed "record your life" homework
Him traveling around Africa, Europe and Asia while the homework was coincidentally to record what someone does on vacations. It has sense that the dojo master wants him to be his successor, the coincidence part must be something about how the other classmates have shitty lives compared to him, which is not true because he has not that kind of life yet.

I just want to know what happens after that. I'm in the part he transforms in a phantom pirate or some shit like that.
>>
Eh, it's an okay read. Lee Hyun as a character is
annoying as hell to read since he's an asshole most of the time.
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>>115166866
All in all, some LNs are ripoffs of Japanese stuff, but even Japanese stuff tends to be ripoffs of older series.

I can stand that, what I can't stand of some korean stuff is the tragic part they tend to include unnecessarily. What is worse, that kind of thing happens at the end of some series, making it worse than Japanese endings in general.

If everything, Japanes have LNs since decades, and so the repertory is large compared to others.
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>>115165149
It was published in a Japanese magazine, it is manga.
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>>115168320
Wait. I thought overlord was korean, isnt that text japanese?

Man I need more of that shit. time to open up DJT archives, get mad and give up again.
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>>115168320
Momonaga is completely chill.

What he does is horrifying but he doesn't feel a thing about it. His floor guardians are cruel monsters but he's super chill.
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>>115172022
I'm confident that it's Japanese.
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>>115169095
he carves a sculpture of a lich, the same lich that served under Barkan Demorph. Because Weed completed the quest that unlocked the Necromancer job, he is able to use necromancy skills as well as the unique skills of a lich. His power grows as he levels up his necromancy skills as well as when he replaces his skull with a crystal skull which powers him up so much that other normal users see Weed as a named monster demon lich that's stronger than the one Weed killed early on during the Orc + Dark Elves arc.
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>>115162608
>granted they would spend oceans of it trying to develop the damn thing.
There's going to be a huge boost in content when decent creative AI comes in. There's already one for generating simple music.

Then you only need humans for the scaffolds and key points.
>>
I like LMS.
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>>115173258
I'm sorry.
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>>115173378
I'm sorry you enter threads of things you hate.
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>>115164848
Log Horizon is pretty cool though since it's not actually a game.
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>/a/ hates VRMMO things
So hipster.
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>>115173711
Fuck off to animesuki or whatever online reader forums you come from, dark gamer
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>>115173603
I actually haven't watched/read LH yet. From what I hear it doesn't have the horrible self-insert soloing raid boss encounters bullshit that plagues everything else. Wasn't thinking of LH when I wrote that
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>scholarship for studying Video Game History
I dropped it at vol 9 and I am ashamed I even read that far.

I was only reading it for the statues he places around. I enjoy a healthy dose of guilty pleasure, but this was just not the pleasurable kind. Everything else is blatant and embarrassing wish-fulfillment.

There are plenty enough of wish-fulfillment novels in English if that's really your thing, and even the bad ones will at least not have the same awkward language you'll get from JPN-to-ENG translations.
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>>115173910
>implying those people aren't regulars on 4chins right now
Why do you think we have loads of VRMMOshit being translated here?
>>
>>115173938
Indeed, the mc of Log Horizon is a full supporter that can't do anything by himself and is the thinking kind of guy.
>>
Loving it so far - only got into LNs recently through Mushoku Tensei, and I'm liking this series just as much.

Anyone know if anyone's translated volumes 20-40+ yet? The korean raws are out, but I can't stand machine translations...
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>>115174266
>...
Fuck off and you have shit taste.
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>birth of a dark gamer
Seriously? first "gamer mind" now this?
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>>115173938
Because the author actually knows shit about economics and politics so he is capable of making the story interesting without relying on shallow power-ups and increasing numbers.

Akatsuki though. I didn't mind her in the first season, but she's starting to be a sore. I'm not a big fan of the romance sub-plot with Shiroe because in my opinion, she has such a weak justification.
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>>115154601
You should go to /v/, i'm sure they will love this dark gamer stuff
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>>115154601
Is it finished or still ongoing
>>
I find it pitiful that you guys genuinely like LMS beyond a time waster. I'm thinking you guys just don't know any better and have never read more beyond a web novel. Why read shitty translations when you can read English?

Start with a decent english web novel with a healthy dose of wish-fulfillment (starts slow until the time looping though, but I can see it being a decent young adult novel once the rough parts are edited), then move on to real books.

Love,
/lit/
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>>115174665
I'm still writing the latest chapters. Wait for a few weeks.:^)
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>>115174702
Link related, I'm sure some guys have already recommended this to you previously
https://www.fictionpress.com/s/2961893/1/Mother-of-Learning
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>>115174702
>mmo playa
They are just a bunch of sub human
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>>115174702
No. I'll keep my shit taste over being a literally faggot.
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>>115174839
>reading mmo crap like LMS
That beyond the normal shit taste, it's extraordinary shit taste
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>>115174929
Welcome to /a/. Now go back to >>>/lit/
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>>115174769
Mother of learning is pretty fun to read.
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>>115174839
The Mother of Learning he recommended is a pretty good match for people's taste here. It gets passed around the Mushoku Tensei threads often.

You get the annoying little sister which ends up being a very lovable character later on, and pretty cool sapient monsters (the spiders), plus everything within the loops connect pretty well. The magic theory was nice too and somewhat grounded in reality to describe it in an odd manner. The author is croatian though, so there are indeed some rough areas that could use an editor, but nothing to the extent of how stupid the LN sound in english (i.e. ufufufufu).
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>korean trash
>vrmmo trash
>birth of a dark gamer
Holy shit, I cringe so hard
>>
>cringe
>>>/b/
>>>/v/
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>>115175142
This thread is just bait. Enjoy mocking my favorite LN, faggots.
>implying taking recommendations from /a/ is a smart move
Nice try.
>>
>>115175102
I agree. I don't know what the fuck it's doing on fictionpress. He should try to find a publisher, it just needs editing to make the language flow better (but the hard part, the imagination and the raw plot is decent).

I'd also recommend revising some of the conversations, some could use adjusting to sound like real conversations. Also the romantic interests.
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>>115159882
>Holy fuck I hate Weed
>Korean faggot
>I wonder if there's a thread up
>Holy shit there is
>I finally get to post about how much I hate Weed

Get out of here, Tsundere faggot.
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>>115167193
...The statues have mind-altering properties, right, right?
>>
Yorkshin (good) > Everything else (mediocrity) > CA (utter trash)
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>>115180273
(not counting Election since I couldn't be assed)
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>>115168181
>Mushoku Tensei
What do you expect from the fanbase of a series with a literal pedophile as the MC?
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>>115168320
>Overlord
God, I remember someone on 2ch proclaiming it to be a "modern classic" and that it'll be remembered even 100 years from now.
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>>115168768
Check your privilege, you adventurer scum.
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>>115179858
Thanks to stat bonuses and his special knife Weed is basically a modern Michelangelo within the game.

Plus the game does make you feel emotions, so great works of art make you feel joy just like with great food.
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>>115174009
>scholarship for studying Video Game History

He just out-jewed Anita Sarkeesian.
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>>115174009
>>115181424

You do realize this is set in the future right?

One where a Virtual Reality system run by a powerful AI has basically replaced most other forms of entertainment.

It's basically a more specialized media studies course centred on the most popular game ever as well as the games that led up to it.
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>>115181685
>One where a Virtual Reality system run by a powerful AI has basically replaced most other forms of entertainment.

Jesus Christ, how horrifying.
>>
>>115181136
So what, is it like some forced emotion shit?

Because not even real life works that way.
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>>115181828
>powerful AI

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Especially the part where in... volume 18 was it? this really is a spoiler virginlord supreme is making super soldier androids and taking over the world so his super sekrit special successor can inherit the world or some shit. God I hope that plot line gets shit on.
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>>115182864
What? Are you for real?

Jesus Christ.
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>>115182940

You called?
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>>115182940
http://www.royalroadl.com/volume-16-chapter-9/

Seems it was vol 16.

Scroll halfway then start to read it and weep. Also if you don't want spoilers, you guys better leave the thread.
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>>115182864
According to people who've read ahead.

That plotline has been completely dropped like the stupid shit that it is.
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>>115183562
Oh thank jesus.
>>
Also seems royalroaddl are holding chapters hostage to make people read their shitty short stories and categorize them.
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>>115183409
>123,020 were completed.

>Small and medium sized androids. They were weapons that had become necessities of modern warfare. Androids were currently only in use in the United States, and Russia.

Well, at least it's not an army of robot waifus, it seems.
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