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As much as I am happy that we have finally made it to this day, I would like to honor the anons that didn't make it to see the new ufotable adaptation. Fate/Stay Night is one of the oldest franchises on /a/, and by tracking it's translations, it shows how much we've been through over the years. Has it already been nearly 8 long years?

To the anons that were introduced to Type-Moon with the 2006 Deen adaptation;
To the anons that waited for the Mirror Moon translations back in 2008 (one route at a time);
To the anons that were here when we used to always post Fate and Tsukihime doujins fresh off the shelves;
To the anons that were hyped for the DEEN UBW movie;
To the anons that thought UTW was the new messiahs of fansubbing;
To the anons that waited for Realta Nua;
To the anons that lived to see HA get 100% translated;

And finally to the anons that participated in all of those Power Level threads that turned into Waifu wars, as well as all the Waifu wars that turned into Power level threads,

I salute you all. May you all continue your dreams in Avalon with the Once and Future King, have Clocktower Adventures with the Twintails, cook with the Worms, and even making the remaining time that Illya has left the best of her life.

Here's to more Brilliant Days as we Return to the Spring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdRnNHDrxe8
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>>114680449
That's pretty cheesy.
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I just hope the new adaptation is just flavor of the month so we can go back to having good discussions again, devoid of all these secondaries.

>mfw these newfags don't know the feeling of how good UBW was when it was first translated after Fate (which was considered one of the best things to come out of visual novels)
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Saber threads were the comfiest when the only waifu wars was shit flinging among Rinfags and Sakurafags.
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I'm so hyped but also scared that it might be shit as hell.
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>>114680449
>To the anons that lived to see HA get 100% translated;
Wait what?
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>>114681373
The prologue is most definitely not shit.
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>>114681407

Always remember.
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>>114681407
Where have you been nigger?
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>>114681460
I thought all those "finally at 100%" posts were jokes
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>>114681520
100% translated, 100% validated for over a month.
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>>114681520
It's legit 100% now.
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10 HOURS
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VNs are literally just a way inferior version of anime with forced fanservice (Choose your own headcanon)
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Guys should I try to get some sleep before or stay up til the broadcast?
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>>114681520
YOROKOBE SHOUNEN
You can finally experience the SoL glory and unlucky Irish power hour known as F/HA
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>>114681650

I plan to sleep a few hours before the broadcast. It's bloody early in the morning where I am when it screens.
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Except this series has all the normie-repellant removed and is going to bring even more cancer into the fanbase
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>>114681656
I'm wondering that too. This shit airs at 8AM for me, but I don't want to miss the hype.
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>tfw too hyped to sleep
I can't believe it's real. And two one hour first episodes? ufotable is a god.
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>>114681683
It's only 8 AM on the west coast, but that's early for me on the weekends, I normally sleep in on Saturday.
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>>114681694

4AM here.
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Are VNs even allowed on /a/?
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Is there a streaming link?
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I seriously don't think I've ever been this hyped for an anime.
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>>114681739

Do you really want to go to /jp/?

>>114681751

We have 10 hours. Wait a little.
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>>114681782
>Do you really want to go to /jp/?
What's wrong kiddo, can't handle the heat?
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I've honestly waited too long for this for anything to ruin my experience. I don't even know if I have the will to live after Spring when it finally ends.

I guess I'll end it once the HF movies are done.
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>>114681821
>movies
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http://jsbin.com/jowebibudawo/1
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I beat F/SN for the first time September 27th, 2009 (yes I refuse to ever forget that day).

5 years later I love it even more than I did then.
I am glad I am witnessing this finally happen as I have thought about this everyday since the announcement back in 2013.

Though it won't end until HF finally comes out.
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>>114681821
>movies
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>>114681883

>Though it won't end until HA finally comes out.

FTFY
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The etymology of "Secondaries" comes from the superior ability of these individuals to delay gratification, and thus receive two marshmallows, and highly correlates with success, education, health and weight control.

>In these studies, a child was offered a choice between one small reward provided immediately or two small rewards if they waited for a short period: approximately 15 minutes, during which the tester leave the room and then return. (The reward was sometimes a marshmallow, but often a cookie or a pretzel.) In follow-up studies, the researchers found that children who were able to wait longer for the preferred rewards tended to have better life outcomes, as measured by SAT scores,[2] educational attainment,[3] body mass index (BMI),[4] and other life measures.[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment

It is not surprising at all that bitter "primaries" who are often unintelligent, overweight, and unsuccessful at life, would attempt to turn it into a pejorative. Following in the model of "normalfag".
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>>114681929
>ability of these individuals to delay gratification, and thus receive two marshmallows

I don't know why, but the word marshmallow made me laugh
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>>114680697
>tfw first reading shirou vs archer and shirou vs kirei

how many years has it been now?
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Oh shit I forgot to include GAR.
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>>114682006
hey cool there's other people like me here
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>>114681929
But by that logic non-secondaries should be superior to primaries because the payoff for reading the VN is longer than the payoff of watching the anime.

I'm pretty I have a screen cap about some secondary who didn't want to read the VN because he couldn't read it while shitposting on /a/ and playing LoL or something like he could do with Fate/Zero
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>>114682039
that's wrong though, the VN is just a super-budget anime.
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>>114681929
Being a secondary doesn't mean you are "saving" anything. It just means you're a fucking faggot who didn't get introduced to the series until recently, and has not read the source material, nor made any attempts to do so. They also whine like a baby when people aren't paying attention to them in a conversation they shouldn't even be in.
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>>114682079
? Where did you think I was saving anything, I was merely pointing out your own failure and inability to delay gratification, a common trait among your kind.
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>F/SN 10 years old this year
>4chan 11 years old this year

One of the few franchises that has remained apart of us and still loved and discussed as much over a decade later.
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>>114682006
>GAR
Too nostalgic, isn't it?
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>>114682113
"saving" as in "saving the best for last" kind of saving, you retard.
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>>114682147
Who knew the roots of battle shonen went that far back
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>>114682071
Other way around the anime could very well just be a shitty adaptation of the VN.

And even then the experiment was about delayed gratification which means that taking your time to read something puts you above someone who refuses to do so and would rather watch the anime.
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>>114680859
I blame Saber for increasing the post timer.

Fuck Saber.
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>>114681929
More like secondaries are those that prefers to have some replace your marshmallows with half a marshmallow, while the legit fans get to eat the full mashmallow and still get to have the choice eat the half marshmallow.
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>>114682159
>>114682181
>>114682194
Except that VNs are literally nothing more than really shitty budgeted anime with choose your own fanservice juryrigged on

this is like a shitty anime coming out and then a superior one coming out later.
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>>114682200
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>>114682200
>Except that VNs are literally nothing more than really shitty budgeted anime with choose your own fanservice juryrigged on

Except they aren't, because you know animation

8/10
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How many /a/nons have died since F/SN came out?
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>>114682200
If you're going to try and throw out VN bait at least use 'VNs are just shitty versions of books'. This doesn't even make sense.
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>>114682200
Nice try.
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>>114682266

Thousands.
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I wonder if they're going to remix/remaster New Dawn. What are you guys looking forward to hearing from the OST?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C2BruacWjk
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>>114682200
>choose your own fanservice juryrigged on
You act like that's not worth it
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Please stop responding to the shitposter, he's literally just copy/pasting his posts from the last thread.
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>>114682315

Damnit, why does this music give me so many feels?

Why do I like the F/SN Music so much?
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>>114682315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzJQ6gD0qOM&index=5&list=PL3BF80736D5207A83
As weird as it sounds this. I realize it only tends to play during SoL scenes so theres a good chance it won't come up at all. I just love this song so much even though its just piano basically. Just this tune alone makes me feel so much nostalgia and its only been a few years since I read the VN.
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>>114682315
That piece has to fucking play during this scene. It has to.
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>>114682493

But will it?
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>>114682315
Well EMIYA is a given, but I'm hoping for Ever Present Feeling.
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>>114682315
For some reason that song still makes me kind of teary eyed.

Guess it was because it played in the final scene of HF, so I associate it with the ending of the entire story. Fuck last episode
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>>114682493
>you'll never wake up to this scenery after a hard night's construction work
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>>114682315
I want to hear a remix of this in the HF movie(s).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe821OoYPUY
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A anon in the last thread uploaded TM relevant links, reposting

All-Around Type-Moon V1+2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zk9iebp08ehln5/AATM%20-%20COMPLETE%201%2B2.zip?dl=0

TAKE MOON 1+2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/def4c0drv3df5o7/TAKE%20MOON.zip?dl=0

Fate ONE DAY! V01-16
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2iq79vrhfq5pe7i/FHA%20One%20Day%21%20Vol.%2001-16.zip?dl=0

Fate Zero Cafe!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vsu74t8xa4x9zrw/Fate%20Zero%20Cafe.zip?dl=0

T-Moon Complex X 1-9 (complete)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2uon7b74rkp1njl/T-Moon%20Complex%20X.zip?dl=0

Extra CCC Foxtail! (Vol 1, english)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ztb7f60kqg02sdu/Fate%20Extra%20CCC%20Fox%20Tail%20Vol.%201.zip?dl=0

FSN Xtra Scenes (Taiga and Shirou, Lancer, Rin and Kirei, Gilgamesh and Enkindu, Illya and Kiritsugu)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n5xr8n32sk97ksd/Fate%20Stay%20Night%20-%20XTRA.zip?dl=0

FZ Servant Status (Powerlevels)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/aqwdtuna1xdt9vs/Fate%20Zero%20-%20Servant%20Status.zip?dl=0

Fate Fan Books (Doujins, funny)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/31lnqdzojxpx07m/Fate%20Fan%20Books.zip?dl=0
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>>114682315
Ever Present Feeling, this scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L1DEvzsftw
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>>114682512
Who knows. People are saying the prologue episode doesn't really use music from the VN, but the first episode does.
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>>114682315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfKHqYO8zl0
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>>114682569
Please don't do this for every thread in the OP. I don't want this to turn into a general.
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>>114682315
Kami no Na no Motoni. I don't care how many years I'll have to wait until the HF adaptation is out, if they have a version of that track it'll be worth it.
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>>114682576

That scene will be amazing, if we can also see Shirou's reaction to all this. I hate not seeing his face that often in the VN. Self-inserters be damned.
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>>114682576
>>114682562
>>114682473
>>114682315
>all this nostalgia
Goddamn I want to replay the VN
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srWg_6fMyJk

Assassin's theme always sounds good. It always feels like it can just loop into New Dawn.
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Daily reminder that Archer could have solo'ed the war in the first day if he had wanted to.
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>>114682655
>Archer
>Beating Lancer
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>>114682611
I thought this video was just going to be a mix of Kotomine saying "YORO-YORO-YOROKOBE SHOUNEN"

But someone please do this.
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You know what? I'm going to do something I should have done weeks ago. get of my arse and finish HF. I've been stuck on the beginning of day 14 because it was wearing me down to nothing, but I will not start this anime without having finished the VN. For that would be unbecoming and fit only for secondaries.

I'll see you all in a few hours. (I hope to fuck I can finish HF before the UBW Anime airs)
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>>114682569
Just drop this shit in a pastebin and I'll book mark it so I can provide it if anybody asks. Reposting links like this is a hallmark of generals and we'd like to avoid that.
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>>114682655
Isn't Lancer immune to projectiles?
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>>114682698

>On the last three days of HF
>Can't finish it

Nigga the last two days are the best
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>>114682711
>we
Go fuck yourself
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>>114682315
>>114682493
>Arata na Yoake starts playing
>tfw you know everything is gonna be daijoubu
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>>114682676
>Implying he'd lose if he took that Irish cuck seriously
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>>114682734
You saying you want this to become a general? You can go fuck yourself.
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>>114682676

Lancer could only have won if his musclewizard waifu was his master.

And we all know how that turned out.
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>>114682728
I'm pretty sure it's mentioned that Lancer is a hard counter to Archer because of his agility and ability to evade projectiles.

Of course it's really because always hit > always block.
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>>114682676
Every Servant besides Rider and Caster can finish the war in 3 days if everyone does not expect them coming and the attacker has full prana available as well as all their shit together.

But that's not the point of the novel. It's about the themes of following your ideals.
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>>114682698
>Beggining of day 14
That's exactly where I was held for a week
You've completed 80% of the route but have only seen 30% of the greatness that is HF.
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>>114682787
I meant to reply to this guy
>>114682726
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>>114682815
>>114682698
I got stuck around day 14 too. Something about that point in the novel just made things a real fucking slog, and I don't know what.
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>>114682815
whoever made that image has the gay
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>>114682787
Archer does have access to Calabolg which is Cu's true weakness. Although Nasu would be the only one who knows whether or not the sword itself or its NP is the weakness.
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>>114682839
Day 14 is like the calm before the massive shit storm.

And when I say "calm" I mean in comparison to days 15 and 16. A lot happens on 14, but nothing to prepare you for the climax.
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>>114682848
>2014
>not having the gay
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Hahahaha
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I can't sleep

It is like Christmas eve.
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How many more hours?
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>>114682315
I think a New Dawn remix played during Prisma Illya 2wei, so it's a possibility...

By the way does anyone know of a method to rip the voice files from Fate Extra CCC? and or provide a gamesave with Saber with all her skills and noble phantasm unlocked? I'd really appreciate that.
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>>114682897
But Archer is not Ulster born
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>>114683013

9 or so.
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>>114682958
Context?
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>>114682958
I prefer them when they're being sisters rather than love rivals.
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>>114683073
Rin bullying Sakura
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>>114683073
That's just the natural reaction of a sakurafag when they get BTFO by a superior woman who is objectively better as a woman and as a life partner who can actually bear children.
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>>114683114

Now now, things have been going very well up to this point. Don't start the Waifuwars, we don't need them.
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>>114682977
Christmas eve never promised this much hype
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>>114683114
Don't start shit. Lets not tear each other apart when we're so close to being flooded with secondaries.
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>>114683169

>Waifuwars

What war? Fate's never going to get covered again so Saber is dead in the water and Sakura will never be popular. There is no war, Rin won. You just don't want to bow to your new queen
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>>114682539
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>>114680449
i agree with >>114680515 thats pretty cheesy
>and i love it,here to the anons that were,and those who will come,and learn to love fate
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>>114683222
Checked
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>>114683082
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http://youtu.be/tLf9oWUe2fc

>tfw no mahoyo translation
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>>114683213

Wait until the HF Movie/s.

In the meantime, leave your Waifu stuff at the door, and just bask in the hype with the rest of us.

Rin's my favourite as well, but for a different reason. Her raging bisexuiality.
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>>114683213
>>114683213
>Saber is dead in the water
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I can't believe it's been nearly 6 years since I completed F/SN

I can't believe I've had Sakura as my waifu for that same time period either...Christ time flies
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>>114683251
Soon apparently. It's 100% TL'd.
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>>114680449
>To the anons that thought UTW was the new messiahs of fansubbing;
>UTW wont be subbing UBW
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>>114683245

He should know, he's had a couple.
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>>114683261

Sakura won't get a large bump in popularity because she's a submissive piece of shit. Rin is way better and it's no surprise she is becoming the most popular. Saber is only popular because she's forced into everything, it's artificial popularity.
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>>114683276
My nigga.

It really does.
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>>114683314
>>114683213
I think we're dealing with some sort of reverse troll.
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>>114683276

I got into FSN by watching the anime

I loathe my existence. I've since read the VN and seen the error of my ways, but the taint always remains
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>>114683251

Holy fucking shit.

And I thought F/SN production values were high... This is insane.
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>>114683333
I sure hope so. Rin might not be my favorite heroine but I'd hate to see her fall pray to a bunch of reverse trolling that make people hate her.
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>>114683356
Man it doesn't matter as long as you read the VN. Only the most snobby of hipsters will shit on you for the order you got into stuff. The important thing is that you read the VN. It's just preferred that you do it first.
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>>114683344

Same brother. Same.
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>>114683344

I got into FSN by reading the half-translated HA first, and then F/SN and then Zero. I did it backwards for some reason.
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>>114683376
Mean for: >>114683344
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>>114680449
>Fate/Stay Night is one of the oldest franchises on /a/
You what?
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>>114683418
>>114683344
I watched the anime first but from some divine miracle I forgot everything about it when I decided to play the VN. Even Saber's identity.

Thank you based brain.
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>>114683421
How do you even manage to do that?
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>>114683446
Been on this board since 2006. 8 years strong.
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>>114683446
In terms of having a regular fanbase? Probably not far off.
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>>114683446
see
>>114682147
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How many of you remember that that Tohsaka recovers by being buried in a coffin on their land?
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>>114683469

Because I saw the Shirou/Rin Eclipse scene from HA and heard it was heartwarming as fuck, and wanted to read it for myself.
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>>114683446

FSN anime came out in 2006. People, on /a/, were hyped for it because we didn't have a translation for the Visual Novel

The majority thought it was good until the MM translation was released
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>>114681452
He was really a HERO. Do you remember UBW patch release?
>muh installer
Or KnK novels?
>muh license
>cokesakto happening
>SHIT TRANSLATION HURRR DURRR MUH QUALITY TRANSLATION 8 YEARS
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>>114683251
>>114683356

The really funny part is that's not even the most impressive part of the game.
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>>114682315
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L1DEvzsftw

This song always made me cry when I was reading the visual novel.
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>>114682772
He's not making this into a general and posting up links to manga for the hell of it "for the newfags so they understand how we work". He's compressing each of the manga into drop files for everyone and just posting new links when he finishes.

You're turning this into something evil in your mind because you fear this becoming a general. This is something he was already doing.
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>>114683522
Yes, yes, I was there. Holy shit.
But what does "oldest franchise on /a/" even mean? Triggers my autism.
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>>114683344
Same. I watched it with /a/ since it was hyped so fucking much.
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>>114683356
Looks at Hollow Ataraxia battles
Same director. Type-moon's gem
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKE3jEHPG10

>episode 2 never
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I'm so secondary I got into fate through Katawa Shoujo.
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>>114683561
YEAH NIGGER, NOW ROCK OUT TO THE TOTALLY EPIC CROW'S CLAW VERSION

http://youtu.be/rNxbLEnRAUk?t=2m11s

COVERED YOU BRO AND FAST FORWARDED TO THE BEST PART. CHECK OUT THAT SICK GUITAR
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>>114683674

I got into fate through the copypasta where two of Saber's soldiers discuss whether she has coconuts under her armor
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>>114683281
>Soon apparently. It's 100% TL'd.
hahahaha
[22:24] <vvav> is it actually a decent project?
[22:24] <Moogy> no
[22:24] <vvav> oh
[22:24] <Moogy> http://nanuneko.wordpress.com/2013/12/25/merry-christmas/
[22:24] <vvav> well meh
[22:24] <Moogy> here's a sample
[22:24] <koestl> its a native jp speaker herkz
[22:25] <Moogy> there's so much work that needs to be done on the editing front that it's basically unsalvageable
[22:25] <Moogy> and they don't know what to do with it
[22:25] <koestl> who's apparently a really nice person but yeah the english is not good
[22:25] <Moogy> the TL itself is done, but it's unusable
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>>114683251
Holy crap. That looks nice.
My face when I can now read this, etc.
To the backlog it goes!
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Having never seen/read/played any of this before, how would you feel in this being my introduction to the franchise?
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Legs
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>>114683767
better this than f/z
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>>114683744

Not to mess up your confidence or anything but I found Mahoyo to be pretty difficult and I've been reading eroge in Japanese for over a year now. Good luck.
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>>114683561
Yep, it's too bad the 2012 version is one the 3 songs in the Reproduction soundtrack thats infinitely shittier than the original.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6DINHMGAY8

The other two are Emiya 2012 and THIS ILLUSION (piano ver) 2012. Fuck the second one especially.

>>114683454
You wanna know, some stupid shit? I found out that Shirou could use UBW, and I knew that Archer could use UBW, yet I still didn't realize Shirou was Archer from the future until I was supposed to while playing the game.

It was one of the few times I'm glad I can be so retarded.
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I'm so hyped I've been on the toilet for the last hour shitting myself.
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>>114683724
>SubaHibi translation
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>>114680449
>To the anons that lived to see HA get 100% translated;
you wut m8, is it true?
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>>114680449
>To the anons that were introduced to Type-Moon with the 2006 Deen adaptation;
Reporting in. That anime did so wrong, but I believe everyone admits that when it did good it was beyond amazing. The ending sequence before Gilgamesh's death was done very well.
I invite all you fellow anons not to hate too much the eventual secondaries. I was one as well many years back. Not everyone can immediately get into any franchise that quick, especially when they grow as much as the Type Moon ones.
Have some Ilya and fuck that double 'l'" nonsense, I will never get accustomed to calling her Illya.
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>>114683803
Same here. I can read moege with ease occasionally looking something up. Mahoyo I have to look up something almost every sentence. Its really insane
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>>114683823
;_;
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>>114683767
Good as long as you don't try to wander around like you know everything about the franchise and you keep yourself quiet during Discussions/Arguments/Shitflinging.
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Command spells used?
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>>114683803
Pic unrelated, right? Because that looks real-novel-tier at worst.
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>>114683767

Yes

You don't want to play FSN or Tsukihime yet. Wait until Takeuchi succeeds in replacing all the characters with Saber, then play it
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>>114683744
>>114683869
>>114683942
>>114683803
Okay, real quick. Any tips on making the grammar stick? I've read through Tae Kim, but, you know.
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>>114683674

Wut?

>First exposure to Fate was Realta Nua in 2011
>No contact with shitty Deen adaptation outside of fight scenes afterwards
>Read Fate/Zero before the anime released

Feels good.
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>>114683767
>how would you feel in this being my introduction to the franchise?
All you need to know is that Archer is Shirou from the future.
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Post Moogy-dono translation tier list
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>>114683767
Better than F/Z, not as good as reading the VN.

Just remember if you have questions or want to know more, the answer you'll get it is "read the fucking VN"
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>>114683942
Not that guy but that's because it probably is real novel tier. Notice how the people saying it was difficult were saying that relative to moege which are the simplest things out there
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>>114680449
After college, I kinda dropped out of anime and /a/. Only Fate had been translated. When I came back last year, and there were still daily threads?

Good to be home
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I got into Fate when Animax aired it way back when I was in junior or middle high. I forget the exact year, that's how long it's been, but I do remember that only Fate route had been translated by MM at the time.
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>>114683869

Have you cleared Night of the Witches yet? If not then prepare your anus because the magic infodumps/Akasha talks in the second half nearly killed me. I mean it's worth the struggle but just be sure you can do it because it is very easy to mess up and completely misunderstand something.

>>114683942

Yes, pic unrelated. The hard parts of Mahoyo are really the endless magic infodumps in the second half, the absurd amount of completely unconnected foreshadowing for future games, some advanced grammar usage and eking out the context of dialogue if you're unfamiliar with reading unvoiced works.

There are also a few plot crucial sections that are basically 'fuck everything' tier near the end, but I don't think I saved any of those.

The fights also have some really crazy writing that can get to be a pain to read.
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>>114684014
Step 1: Read babby's first VN by 4chan.

Step 2: Look for more VN.

Step 3: download F/SN
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>>114684012
Personally I just read Tae Kim once or twice. Hell, I may not have even finished Tae Kim completley now that I think about it. I just listen whenever I watch anime or whenever I'm playing something with Japanese voices. A shit ton of reading and a shit ton of listening has resulted in most all the grammar becoming second nature to me
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>>114683810
>THIS ILLUSION (piano ver) 2012

I just don't think that was a very well made piece to begin with. I like the idea of a piano version of This Illusion, but just like, listen to it from a technical stand point. The piano sounds mechanical and basic; no real embellishments or taking advantage of the instrument, and it really shows how simple the core melody is. The chords are chunky as hell too; the orchestration as a whole isn't too great. I know it's synth, but you can put a little extra effort in there. Really it feels like a rough draft.

My biggest problem with the 2012 version of Ever Present Feeling is that the flute is pushed way the fuck back, and that's one of the best parts of the tune.
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>>114684053

And in the game as well.
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Can lancer win the grail war without his gay bulges?
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>>114683869
>Mahoyo I have to look up something almost every sentence. Its really insane
Well that's how you learn, Anon. You look up moege vocabulary, you learn it, then you move on to more difficult things, repeat...

>>114684012
Read. Listen. Watch. Absorb. Look up things in a dictionary. Again and again. Learned English playing vidya as well. You just have to keep drilling and drilling and fucking drilling more until at one point you realize you're at the other side of the wall and you can understand the language.
That's my method, though. A more intelligent person may laugh at me for being an oaf, but I got the job done at least.
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>>114684012

Go read a lot of stuff and see how those grammar particles are used in context. Peruse Imabi while doing so and pick up vocabulary from the games you're reading. If you want my advice, don't attempt something like Mahoyo for a while because you will get very frustrated and probably not understand any of it.

Then once you've got a hang for reading stuff you can go and try to read stuff like Mahoyo, which you will still struggle with immensely.
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>>114684182

Nope. If his Waifu was there with him he may have had a chance though.
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>>114684130
I'm actually a bit past that, and yeah it was pretty tough. Went through at a snails pace but damn it was so worth it because that chapter was glorious
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>>114680449
And to you OP,
CONGRATULATIONS!!
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>>114683744

How long did it take to learn to read it?
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>>114682569
C'mon, make some mirrors already.
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>>114683838
A Mr. Gamecreater16 dumped a 100% "translation" that the editor was sitting on. Said editor threw a bitchfit and quit.

So for a month we had most of a translation and a bunch of hilarious google translate error.

Thankfully another group from Beasts Lair picked it back up and in a few weeks did more than had been done in years, finishing it
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>>114684137
I haven't seen the phrase "babby's first VN" refered to F/SN in a long time. I remember it being the buzzword around the time Clannad's translation finalized. It died it pretty much because of all these secondaries. Come to think of it, secondaries today are much worse than before because they're so fucking entitled. Back in the day it was "fuck you read the VN" and that was it. Now? These fucks literally think it is their birthright that people are suppose to spoonfeed them.
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>>114684349
He was referring to KS as babies first VN.
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>>114684349
Read the post again, it wasn't referring to F/SN.
It was referring to the actual VN that /a/ made.
You know the one.
Cripple Fuck.
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>>114684070
http://tsukuru.info/b/?p=1413
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So I'm looking tunes for Fate, and I gotta ask, who the fuck is James Harris? Like, is there an actual western guy who did some of the music for Fate, or is it a pseudonym?
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>>114684349
>I haven't seen the phrase "babby's first VN" refered to F/SN in a long time
That's because Katawa Shoujo actually became babby's first VN in 2012
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What were these comics called again?
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>>114680449
>Fate/Stay Night is one of the oldest franchises on /a/,
Also one of the most horrible fanbases on /a/ only matched by shaft fags and kyoanus faggots.
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remember when yume miru kusuri and g senjou were babby's firsts
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>>114684518
Love you too buddy.
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>>114683767
You will enjoy it and crave more, that's where the visual novel comes in.
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>>114684490
ah, one eyed chibis
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>>114684518
Shaft and Kyoani aren't franchises.
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>>114684518
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>>114684560
I wasn't talking about franchises, I was talking about fanbases.
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>>114684278
That's not the question you want to ask.
I'll answer just for the sake of it, because my answer is even more useless.
Basically, eight or nine years of consuming Japanese media, including some 400 TV anime and heaps of music, etc. Learned kanji in these last two years at a snail's pace because I couldn't be assed to keep the pace up.
So yeah, not a useful answer.
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>>114684408
>>114684478
F/SN is so old it is no longer babby's first VN. I think the phrase came from /jp/ anyway.
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>>114684544

Nero. A crazy busty bisexual version of Arturia.
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>>114683584
Yeah, this anon. That anon who was only sharing TM content, he stopped reposting in the last thread. Dropbox is down anyway, it's not like anyone can download it.
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>>114684463
>yfw a gaijin made EMIYA
doubt they would use a western name pseudonym. It's probably legit.
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>>114684598
>fanbases
Nerds! Normalfags! Edgy! Logistics! Proactiveness!
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>>114684662
http://vgmdb.net/artist/1753

What's crazy is this guy's been involved as early as Tsukihime, and as late as Mahoyo.
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>>114684621
>I think the phrase came from /jp/ anyway.
Most phrases come from /jp/.
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>>114684717
>eventually it will click one day and become second nature?
It won't click like a light switch randomly, it will be a slow progression. Over time you will realize you know more and more things that you didn't before.
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>>114684751
All roads lead to /jp/
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>>114684751
/jp/ didn't even exist when Fate/Stay Night was first popular on /a/.
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>>114684717
God fucking DAMN, I love this picture so much.
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Well, my autism kicked in and I deleted the post to switch around the quotes a bit, but it seems it was too late.

>>114684817
It's a great picture.

>>114684778
I see. As long as I understand eventually, thats fine.
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>>114684717

Yes, basically. You need an understanding of grammar to read anything, and it will consistently evolve into better understandings and more and more detailed comprehension. With the advent of ITH/TA it makes learning and retaining vocabulary a lot easier while reading. You can switch to J-J dictionaries whenever you feel comfortable, but you probably don't need to worry about that for a while.

If you just stick with it and read/study everyday you will eventually get the hang of it and be on your way to reading all sorts of kamige, it really is that simple.

Then when you think you finally have a decent grasp on Japanese, you can try reading something by the likes of Masada and get wrecked like I did last night.
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I feel empty inside.
I've been a huge TMfag for about 9 years now.
And yet, I'm not excited for this anime at all. Everyone around me is so hyped, but I feel nothing at all.
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>>114684932
Why aren't you excited?
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>>114684972
He's a faggot
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>>114684932
End it all when the HF adaptations finish. I'm sure you aren't the only one.
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>>114684932
Maybe you're disillusioned from DEEN's adaptions.

Think about the eventual proper adaption of Shirou vs Gil. Each individually animated/drawn noble phantasm. It gives me a massive hype boner to just imagine.
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>>114684932
I feel pretty empty usually, not feeling the hype so much, it's nothing strange.

The night when they announced this all it was pretty good, and I know it'll be good when it comes down as well, but I ain't really losing myself until something actually happens.

I'm still in every thread either way, because Fate is always something.
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>>114684932
Believe in the hype.
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>>114685013

I don't think Saber knew for certain that Ilya was Iris's daughter.
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>>114685051
Didnt she meet her?
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>>114685039

That's impressive, How will I be able to sleep now? I don't want to be all bleary eyed when this airs.
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>>114681929
This study was incredibly fucking unscientific. It was criticized endlessly all around the world for not controlling for trust in adults.
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>>114685069
>>114685051
>Illyasviel von Einzbern [Person's name]
>The daughter of Irisviel and Kiritsugu, and one of the heroines of the future Fifth Holy Grail War – this isn’t a lie! Illya’s route exists in everyone’s hearts!
>The original story of Fate had events hinting at this, but in Zero her shocking age issue is very quickly revealed.
>Incidentally, the reason Saber didn’t speak her feelings during the Fifth War was because she had never asked Iri about her daughter’s name, and Illya’s appearance seemed far too young for her to be Iri’s daughter (after 10 years, the child that used to sit on Kiritsugu’s shoulders should already have developed a voluptuous body, that was the reasoning). So, she viewed Illya as an Einzbern homunculus completely unrelated to Iri – it’s definitely not a lame excuse.

p
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>>114685082
two glasses of whiskey.
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>>114684891
Yeah, I think it'll be a long time before I switch to J-J dictionarys, but overall thats pretty reassuring.

>Then when you think you finally have a decent grasp on Japanese, you can try reading something by the likes of Masada and get wrecked like I did last night.
Pffft. Well, shit.
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>>114685082
That's in next weeks episode.

In a few hours we get the prologue, which is Archer vs Lancer. Apparently it's extremely impressive too though.
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>>114685099

Thanks. Confirms my thoughts.
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>>114685099
That answer basically admits they forgot. It doesn't matter though. Saber gets along with Illya just fine anyway.
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>>114685051
But she did see Ilya when she was a kid
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>>114685099
Pretty good excuse.
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>>114684932
>And yet, I'm not excited for this anime at all. Everyone around me is so hyped, but I feel nothing at all.
i understand how you feel, given how they're adapting the worst route.
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Any other fatebros going to the grand final and watching UBW afterwards?
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>>114685158
Are people gonna go all hipster against UBW now?
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>>114685001
Why didn't Zouken just bought an artificial body from Aozaki and a qt Justeaze clone from Einzberns?
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>>114685134
>forgot.

Zero was written after F/SN, call it more of a soft retcon. Nasu never forgets, rather he just weasels out with bullshit and excuses that don't actually break anything he's said before since he's a master at that.

"Well Saber didn't ask the name of Irisviel's daughter, and she should be much older, so she thought it was someone else", this doesn't actually contradict anything shown in the story, which is why he's pretty good at weaseling out.
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>>114685051
>F/Z prequel written after F/SN
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>>114685204
UBW has always been considered pretty shit by everyone who wasn't reddit.
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>>114685142
>But she did see Ilya when she was a kid

Exactly, she imagined that kid grew up, so when she saw someone who was ten years old in F/SN she thought it was someone else.

After all Iriesviel's kid should be much older. You don't realize how her seeing her in Zero is more proof.
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>>114685216
>adult Ilya
Disgusting.
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>>114684891
Every time.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15883808
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>>114685220
You need to work on your game a bit honey. You aren't gonna impress too many people with that.
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>>114685220
it's already begun then.
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Heaven's Feel = Unlimited Blade Works > Zero > Hollow Ataraxia > Fate
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>>114685245

I think it's cute. She is an adult trapped in a little girl's body, after all, you'd think she might regret not having tracts of land.
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>>114685245
I guess you'd much prefer her to die within a year and never grow up as long as she's eternal nine years old. Growing up means she at least gives to live that long, but that's secondary to looking cute.
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>>114685202
>thugby league

bogan cunt aye
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>>114685266
Zero > Heaven's Feel >>>> UBW > Fate > Hollow Ataraxia
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>>114685310
>secondaries
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>>114685216
I didn't say it wasn't a retcon. It's just that small things like that aren't really necessary to note because Prequels are usually made to expand on the original work anyway.
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>>114685266
Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel > Zero > Hollow Ataraxia > Fate

I just like UBW better.
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Chuuni shitposting for the Chuunishit VN.
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>>114685372
Why is modern fantasy so much better than traditional fantasy?
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Fuck, when are the HF movies coming out for.

I'm hype as fuck for this adaptation and all, but I can't get nearly as excited because I know HF is on the horizon.

I'm pretty much guaranteed to cum a few times during the movies.
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>>114685411
HF won't be out til after UBW is done most likely, so mid 2015 at the earliest.
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>>114685411
>movies

Only one movie so far.
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>>114685411
I'm guessing Winter 2015.
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>>114685339
I read Fate/Stay Night before you'd even heard of it, faggot.
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>>114685252

See, the thing about KKK is that it's not only hard as fuck to read and full of typical Masada insanity, all the magic and plot has its base in incredibly complex Buddhism and ancient Japanese folklore which you need to actually go research and have a decent understanding of to get the full experience.

やはり、無理だ。
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>>114685434
I expect late Summer, early Fall. A few months after UBW finishes.
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>>114685434
>>114685436
>>114685448
A shame, but I can wait.

I'll enjoy UBW in the meantime.
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>>114685448
Winter would put it just a few months away. They definitely haven't built the hype train enough for that.
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>>114685458
prove it you secondary
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> one of the oldest franchises on /a/
2006 was only 8 years ago.
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>>114685458
Reminder that UBW's patch wasn't even anywhere near 3% complete in 2007.
Basically you are a secondary if you are not a secondary, because most of /a/ watched it as secondaries.
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>>114685500
>2006 was eight fucking years ago
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>>114685497
>>114685565
I first read Fate/Stay Night in the summer of 86 in native Chinese.

Checkmate, atheists.
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Reminder that Secondary is also synonymous with Shit Taste.
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>>114685595
*tip three dollars*
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>>114685617
Is that why secondaries like UBW so much?
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>there are actually plebs who have been excited for shit like this for years
Christ. I played F/SN day 1 of the MM patch. It's a fun VN. Is it one of the best I've played? At the time, when all I had under my belt was Tsukihime, sure it was great. I even thought Saber was an interesting character.

But then the years passed. I stopped being a teenager. I played VNs that were a million miles better than F/SN. I realised that it wasn't even that good. F/Z was fucking better, and it was both shorter and written by a different fucking guy.

I feel sorry for the morons that played F/SN as their first VN. We all joked that it was babby's first VN at the time, but now it's pretty obvious that you guys just can't fucking let go.

An UBW adaptation? Who fucking cares. Move on with your lives.
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>>114685624
*grabs you by the throat*
back the fuck of!?!?
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>>114685640
We are all secondaries. No exception.
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>>114685657
Someone post the thing
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Wait are there going to be two one hour episodes today?
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>>114685656
What did you think of ufotables FZ adaption? Do you think it'll still be better than the upcoming UBW and HF, despite how large their budgets are?
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>Ufotable FSN is so popular /a/ goes full hipster
>Fate casually rated higher than UBW
>Rin hated as the secondaryman's waifu
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>>114685656
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>>114685689
A one hour episode today, and another hour episode next week.
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>>114685656
>F/Z was fucking better, and it was both shorter and written by a different fucking guy.
No one knows how much input Nasu had in F/Z to maintain the coherency of his universe
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Automatic translations are always fun

>Amber (amber)
>Voice - Naoko Takano / first appearance - Tsukihime
>Hero. Responsible for the description of TYPE-MOON work. Called "amber-chan" especially in this work.
>I have said hot and story and anime game unrelated to the TYPE-MOON often. Personality of the author is largely reflected.

>Akiba Tono (Tono Aki)
>Voice - Hitomi / first appearance - Tsukihime
>Master of amber. To amber tsukkomi role. Differs significantly from the original, tone has shifted completely to the straight man.

>Rider
>Voice - Asakawa Yuu / first appearance - Fate / Stay Night
>Sub-heroine of "Fate / stay night". A favorite character of the author, I have appeared almost every time, such as the general >public auditors also introduced after the "stay night". Person has been fed up to the handyman treatment.

>Saber
>Voice - Kawasumi Ayako / first appearance - Fate / stay night
>The main heroine of "Fate / stay night". Tend to be the unfortunate something outside the scope of this work. Is sometimes >written as "blue" in front in order to distinguish Saber other. It is feeling a sense of crisis in that compatible character of their go-born one after another, you are hostile to Saber other. The Lancelot , Gawain , Red mode and, the Knights of the Round Table tangled with us is also found here and there.
>Also (President Takashi Takeuchi sometimes appearing as) behalf.

>Jade (jade)
>Voice - pine MiYu come / first appearance - Tsukihime
>Sister Amber. I often appeared in such as the absence of amber.
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>>114685692
I thought it was a reasonable adaptation of better material.

I'd go for HF>F/Z>UBW at a guess, but it really depends on how well they adapt HF.

UBW is literally just "muh mind of steel".
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Seven and a half hours away from the fun starting.
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>>114685738
Are there actually scans of KohaAce?
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>>114685779
>UBW is literally just "muh mind of steel".

You're a fucking retard bro. Shirou's ideal and Mind of Steel have nothing to do with each other.
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>>114685813
I'm saying Mind of Steel is the main reason the plebs like it. It's a lot of flashy action scenes with not a lot of real story or content.
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>>114685779
>UBW is literally just "muh mind of steel"
Mind of Steel isn't even in UBW you fucking idiot. Way to give away your bullshit.
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>>114685779
>"muh mind of steel"
Mind of steel is mind of steel and UBW is just about Archer's keikaku and asspulls. Of course now that everyone knows it, 3/4 of the fun was already lost.
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>>114685656
there's no need to be upset.
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>>114685656
Jesus fucking christ, I think F/SN is extremely mediocre as well and I'm still excited for the new anime.

Take that fedora off of your head.
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>>114685656
I agree with you on pretty much everything and I'm still excited for the premiere.
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>>114685845
>Mind of Steel has action

Are you really this retarded?
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>>114685779
>UBW is literally just "muh mind of steel".
Confirmed for secondary
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>>114685845
>I'm saying Mind of Steel is the main reason the plebs like it
Except it's not even in the fucking route you fucking blowhard piece of shit.
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am I the worst anon? I was introduced to the fate series by Prisma Illya...
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>>114685881
More like confirmed for complete retard.
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>>114685779
What didn't you like about Fate/UBW? Despite the terrible romance, what did you think of the plot and characters?
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>>114685896
Better than this cockhead >>114685656
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This is now a Muv Luv thread.

Sumika > Meiya
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>>114685896
The worst anon would be the contrarian piece of shit who thinks UBW is mind of steel.
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>>114685896
You're just new, nothing to be ashamed about.
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>>114685679
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>>114685916
>terrible romance
Fuck off. So sick of hearing dipshits repeat this ad nauseum without having any actual opinions to back it up.
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>>114685939
>he doesn't know anything about romance
F/SN is wish fulfilment of the worst kind.
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>>114685939
>without having any actual opinions to back it up.
With nil argument and nil evidence to back the nil opinion up too.
Reading shitposting on /a/ is like simulacra and simulation all along.
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>>114685965
>>114685977
Blah blah blah, same old bullshit with no substance. Fuck off you brainless cunts.
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>>114686000
But what about "bad romance"? Why is F/SN the wish fulfilment of the worst kind?
I'm not even against the "opinion", but you indeed provided no substance.
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>>114685922

This is now a Baldr Sky thread.

Sora is the undisputed best girl and Jihad gets the award for greatest musical placement in a VN ever.
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>>114685939
Nasu even said Fate route romance was shit and UBW romance was unrealistic.
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Any cool girls here that have a guest crunchyroll pass they can share?
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>>114685923
Not that guy but,

Well you know it DOES kind of make sense. How its about Shirou developing his special kind of Reality Marble and inside is a magical factory for producing any kind of Sword, and it frequently makes all those "I am a Sword" comparisons and how he wants to be a self-sacrificing nutjob with a steadfast mentality MUH MIND OF STEEL
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>>114686085
No dude he forgot the exact placement of an ending in a game he played 6 years ago he's a fucking idiot.
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>>114686084
Yeah sure.

12345-67890-1337
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>>114686085
Mind of Steel refers to a bad end when Shirou discards his ideals, and decides to kill the few to save the many like his father had, after killing himself on the inside , AKA: Turn his mind to steel as his heart dies in the process.

It doesn't refer to Shirou's ideals, Archer's ideals, or anything else.
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>>114686076
Nasu: Typical Urobuchi... I really can't pull the wool over your eyes... I intended to take that to the grave with me, but I guess this 10-year anniversary is a good place to talk about it. Just like Urobuchi-san said, it's difficult to call the relationship between Shirou and Saber a relationship between a man and a woman. Saber has fought for a long time as the ruler of Britain, but then turned into a girl all of a sudden and fell in love with Shirou. It's pretty ridiculous when you think about it. But I really wanted to push it towards that sort of boy-meets-girl story. So as a last resort, I had Shirou continually say things to her like "But you're a girl," and "Girls aren't supposed to fight," in order to remind the users that "she is really a girl." It's like the author's actually the one trying to convince Saber that she's a girl... I feel like I could have written it a lot better now, but that was the best I could do at the time.

I honestly thought she was handled worse in Fate route because of the terribly written romance.

True talk: Saber is at her best in Heaven's Feel, really loved her dynamic with Shirou in that route.
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>>114686085
Mind of Steel Shirou wasn't self-sacrificing though. He was Kiritsugu. He wanted to save as many people as possible, and if that meant killing others to get a net gain, then so be it.
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>>114686076
>and UBW romance was unrealistic.

Where did he say this.
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>>114686085
>MUH MIND OF STEEL
MUH MIND OF STEEL means being like Kerry. Completely unrelated to I AM THE BONE OF MY SWORDS.
>>114686100
Stop your damage control already, no one blames you for not reading the VN if only you just have said it.
Was the patch for UBW out 6 years ago again? I'm sure 7 years ago when I first read babby's first VN only Fate's patch was complete.
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Guys, Saber is my waifu. Does that make me a bad person?
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>>114686187

no
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>>114686187
No. Just a person with shit taste.
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>>114686175
Nasu: It's true that Rin is different from Saber. Rin is written as a completely different gender. She also has a sort of pride in the fact that she's a beautiful girl. With a girl like that by his side, even an unsociable person like Shirou loses his presence of mind.

Uro: There's yet another different type of love depicted in the Sakura route. It really expresses the dark sides that all women have, but how men can accept that and love women regardless. Something akin to the "dignity of men" comes across.

Nasu: "Romance" is something where a couple blindly pursue each other's ideals. "Love," on the other hand, is something where two people accept each other, including the painful reality that comes with it. There are no ideals to be found there. It's just about coming to terms with reality. They don't even have time to dream... but you can't just keep pushing harsh realities over the hopes and dreams of young people. Let's talk about something more fun!

According to Nasu, Rin's romance has nothing to do with coming to terms with reality.
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Is there a guide for all this? Do I watch the anime first or the VN?
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>>114685266
UBW > Zero = HF > Fate
I'll read HA after the remake
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>>114686288
>preferring the second act to the third act

You read F/SN wrong.
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>>114686176
FSN v3 patch came out sometime in 2008.
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>>114686263
It's still romance, while LOVE takes time.

Romance is a hot flame of passion burning brightly that could easily flicker out in a moment with the right argument, while love is a colder but strong flame that will never go out.

We see her after she's obtained love rank in Ataraxia perhaps, but as of F/SN it's still just two weeks, to call it love already is to bullshit ourselves a bit. What Nasu is trying to say is that love isn't such an easy and magical thing, it takes honest time to reach that level.
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How many more hours?
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>>114686335
Good to know, I put it off until 2009 so I wasn't sure.
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>>114686263
Well that kind of makes sense. UBW isn't about realism, it's about the beauty of the ideal, but there's nothing really wrong with it in that context. Even the future shown in HA it has them being floaty and obsessively in love with each other.

The way you were spinning it it was like you were saying it was negative.
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>>114686283
Find a link for Fate/stay night Realta Nua, go to beasts lair and find the translation patch, after that check out Fate/Zero and Fate/hollow ataraxia.

Try not to visit /a/, they talk about spoilers freely.

The new anime is a re-adaption, ignore the old 2006 version. The excitement is the insane budget, but it will be identical to one of the visual novel stories.
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>>114686283
Read vn and avoid the threads, unless you're alreadu spoiled
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>>114686372
>The new anime is a re-adaption, ignore the old 2006 version
The new anime is an adaption of a different route. But yeah, ignore the old animu unless you're interested in our shit taste back then.
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>>114686353
I think you missed the point Nasu was going for. He's not saying the romance for Rin will progress to love, he's saying Rin is romance and Sakura is love, hence the question leading into his answer.
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>>114686283
This upcoming anime might very well be better than the 2006 adaptation, but it will be of the second route. If it is better, playing might not be essential, but you will still lose out on learning the lore in the way it was supposed to be learned - you know, "what a twist!".
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>>114686407
All I know is who Saber is, the meme guy who can't catch onto sexual innuendos and the pig tail girl in the red shirt.
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>>114686314
Idealistic ideals > Practical ideals
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>>114686436
>the meme guy who can't catch onto sexual innuendos
Did you know that Archer, Rin's servant, is Shirou from the future?
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>>114686314
UBW and HF are two different answers to the question presented in Fate.

There's a quote from Nasu that sums it up.
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>>114686447
>m-muh theme
Doesn't matter. Heaven's Feel is better paced, more entertaining, more emotional, more engaging and better written, objectively. Theme is irrelevant.
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>>114686491

Can you like HF while hating Wormslut?
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>>114686524
Yes. Japan likes Sakura the least but Heaven's Feel is their favourite route.
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>>114686491
>Heaven's Feel is better paced
90% cooking.
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>>114686491
>better paced, more entertaining
you mena COOKING
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>>114686491
>Heaven's Feel is better paced

Oh you fucked up right there. Heaven's Feel has the worst, most uneven pacing in the entire novel. It was a conglomeration of multiple different routes and ideas, and you could tell. He threw everything he could that he had left over after the first routes, and it left things really hokey in parts.
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>>114686491
>Heaven's Feel is better paced
Come on now
>more entertaining, more emotional, more engaging and better written
I actually mostly agree
>Theme is irrelevant.
Theme is a huge point for me in a story.
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>>114686524
Definitely, Sakura is shit, but her route is fucking amazing.
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>>114686554
>>114686553
MAPO TOFU makes up for it
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>>114686447
They're both presented as equal choices, but don't underestimate practical dreams just because they don't sound as exciting. He's a man who had to narrow his field of vision in order to protect what's around him after a situation arose where he could not hold to his old ideals, but he would take on the world itself to protect those few things he loved.

It's a strong love in the end, and it's not hard to understand/relate to having to sometimes change your scope a bit to get what you really want in life. There are times when one must remain stubborn and persist on a way, and sometimes when one must change their scope or lose everything, which is why they are equal.
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Where da livestream at?
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>>114686568
It got what would have been the Illya route.
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>>114686553
>>114686559
>>114686562
It's like you people forget the Caster stuff didn't happen until the third to last day in UBW. HF isn't well paced, but it's still better paced than UBW, because at least it builds up the characters in the first act (instead of leaving it until the third) and has action to break up the monotony in the early route.
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>>114686187
No, you have great taste
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>>114686487
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I really should get into this VN

Also French Saber looks the cutest
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>>114686666
Whatever you say, potential Satan.
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>>114686616
There's action early on in UBW though. It has the altered Berserker fight, the fight scene in the school with Rin, dealing with Rider, I mean the reason they picked UBW for the anime is because they know the fights stand out more.

And another thing that people always seem to forget about Heaven's Feel, is that it's 50000 words longer than UBW. There's a whole goddamn novel in there that brings the pacing to a crawl in parts.
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>>114686666

S-super Satan?

All Sabers are cute, even Gawain. Our lord and savior Takeuchi is working hard to make all characters Saber
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>>114686585
Just because I prefer the other doesn't mean I don't like the other. I actually like how F/SN handled it. Offering 2 answers for the same problem and talking about the pros and cons of both.
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I love Sakuras smile
I love Sabers humility
I love Rins humour
I love Ilyas cheerfulness
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>>114686690
>There's action early on in UBW though. It has the altered Berserker fight, the fight scene in the school with Rin, dealing with Rider
And there's more days when nothing happens in UBW than there is in HF.
>And another thing that people always seem to forget about Heaven's Feel, is that it's 50000 words longer than UBW.
50,000 words really isn't all that much when the entire VN is 750,000.
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I read the VN before I even knew about 4chan, but I never read the UBW route for some reason
This is going to be one hell of a fucking ride
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Oh no, it's KohaORT
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>>114686700
Well at least not coming to term with reality has higher chance to survive and have a better life in normal and true end.
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>>114686728
I love Sakura's smile.
I love Rin's humour.
I love Ilya's cheerfulness.

I fucking hate that naive cunt Saber and watching Shirou shove a sword through her black heart was easily the best moment of the VN for me.
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>>114686767
>I read the VN before I even knew about 4chan, but I never read the UBW route for some reason
So wait, you only read Fate? Literally why? You do realise that's like walking out of Romeo and Juliet after the ball when they meet each other, right?
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>>114686728
I love Sakura's education
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>>114686767
So you haven't read HF either.

Go read the bloody VN, you've seen only 1/3 of it.
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>>114686818
More like only reading one of the four gospels.
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>>114686767
>I read the VN before I even knew about 4chan, but I never read the UBW route

Sounds like you only read the Fate route, rather than the VN then.
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>>114686755
>And there's more days when nothing happens in UBW than there is in HF.
I would hope so because what the fuck would Nasu be doing if he wrote all that extra shit and there wasn't more to come out of it?

Prologue: 676 pages, 2313 lines and 26246 words.
Fate: 9530 pages, 28056 lines and 299080 words.
UBW: 7221 pages, 22154 lines and 219495 words.
HF: 9206 pages, 37508 lines and 275774 words.

Here's the word count. Please note that the first three days are factored into Fate, but parts should be added to Heaven's Feel due to some changes in the opening days.
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>>114686436
>>114686666

Pretty much, 3 routes with completely different events that occur due changes in choices (butterfly effect). They each challenge Shirou'd ideal in completely different ways, and thus in tern his character. Fate route the one adapted in the 2006 anime is the introductory route that doesn't challenge his ideal at all, basically a large amount of infodump, that's why Ufotable isn't adapting it. HF and UBW both challenge it in two completely different ways.
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>>114686774
Is that Nasu's secret message to us all?
Yeah I think I'll be indulge in my delusion for a forever more.
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>>114686818
It's just one of those things that slipped away from me, couldn't tell you why
I'll read it and HF after this adaptation is over though for sure
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>>114686870
You pretty much said it all there.
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>>114686870
>Fate route the one adapted in the 2006 anime
I'm confident you people didn't watch the 2006 anime. It didn't adapt Fate, it was an anime original route that borrowed more from Fate than the others.
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Guys.
Seems like you all forgot that you CAN get into HF early from Fate route if you refused RIn's offer.
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>>114686936
Not really.
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>>114686936
you get into UBW actually, and you die instantly
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>>114686936
That's UBW, not HF. And you're forced into a bad end if you do it.
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>>114686936
You mean UBW right? Cause you can get partially into UBW as early as Fate, but you get cockblocked around day eight or so.
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>>114686959
>>114686967
>>114686970
>>114686984
Yeah sorry, UBW. When I was trying that, it was still all nipponese so I remember it wrong.
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>>114686931
Yeah but it didn't add the ideal challenging things from UBW or HF at all.
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So what kind of extra content do you think Nasu's written?
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>>114687054
Taiga scenes
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>>114687054
Realta Nua Mk II, with extra Sabers by Takeuchi's request.
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>>114687054

Some Kotomine scenes, a lot of new Rin scenes, a post death scene for Saber similar to Continuation
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It's nice thinking of all the shit these TM threads have been through along the years

>Porkslope Turkeyhandle
>Mollusks
>Unlimited InSTALLING Works
>Velox's FSN anime comics
>Fall/Semester Mike
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy_xbXIJ898
>There is no tsukihime anime
>GAR for Archer
>Sakurafish
>It's shit and other incredible tales from Hiroyuki's comics
>Saber imagedumps break 4chan
>KIMI TO
>M̶a̶h̶o̶y̶o̶ ̶n̶e̶v̶e̶r̶
>H̶o̶l̶l̶o̶w̶ ̶A̶t̶a̶r̶a̶x̶i̶a̶ ̶T̶L̶ ̶n̶e̶v̶e̶r̶
>Tsukihime remake never
Here is to many more years of Nasu not releasing anything new and just letting other companies do actual work with his two IPs.
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>>114687054
I hope we get a Berserker vs. Lancer or Rider vs. Caster.
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>>114686728

I love Rins homolust
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>>114687150
I just love Rin.
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>>114687118

>FSN remake in 2026
>Finally get an HD version of Mou Ikkai
>Half the anons are already dead and won't see it
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Livestream literally when?
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>>114687113
Why is Shiki a slut?
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>>114686880
>Is that Nasu's secret message to us all?

Extra is a game all about sexuality, and all of your servants have had experience in bed before, yet you come to like them anyway and grow to understand that it isn't a deal breaker or that she isn't impure(despite being a slutty brown Archer). The ideal that everyone might have experience, everyone can have a fetish, the physical part of love isn't evil but just part of the same coin, although if brought to complete excess it will lead the soul astray and bring ruin perhaps, and everyone has some parts of their soul that they can't let others see even if the truth will bring them peace.

You might consider it that there's some themes that are Anti-Otaku throughout his games. Although the final CCC ending is about someone who's spent their life online ignoring the 3D whores and getting together with pure 2-D waifu instead. So maybe this is a mixed theme. Although if you look at it another way the 2D girl and the main character who was fake up to that point finally become real, as they have completed their journey and become human in the truest sense both spiritually and physically. Both of them got the most development out of this, they have been tested as fakes, called fakes, but in the end they proved they were real as they gained "understanding of self".

So there might be levels to this.

Dunno, he's definitely a guy that moves at his own pace or ideals in a way.
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>>114687113
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>>114687185

Seven Hours. Be patient.
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>>114687184
We're still six and a half hours away.
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>>114687208
>cat ear shiki
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>>114687118
Where is the Sakurafish guy now? I don't think I have seen him here for a while.
And I haven't even liked it yet ;_;
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>>114687208
>Ryougi
>tits

That ain't right
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I am SO fucking ready for all the new and rereleased Fate merchandise

The hype is fucking REAL
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>>114687118
>anyone doing anything with Tsukihime
I want to believe
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>>114687238
RIP in pieces.
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>started palying VN
>after 10 hours or so got bored of tones infodump and generic characters and dialogues
>ask /a/ when does it get better
>"uhh Fate route isn't very good, neither is HF but UBW is the shit"
>to reach UBW I need to suffer through 50-60 hours of shitty translated eroge
Why's it considered masterpiece again?
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>>114687208
Post more cat eared Shiki
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>>114687280
Is that Illya with tits?
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>>114687289

TsukihimiRE is coming, but it wont be translated for literally years after it comes out. Nasu is rewriting the entire thing from what I understand.
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>>114687238

He doesn't come here anymore.
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>>114687296
Fate is the introduction to the story and Shirous moral dilemma.
UBW is answer number1.
HF is answer number2.
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>>114680449
>I would like to honor the anons that didn't make it to see the new ufotable adaptation.

Talks of war and Ebola on the loose in the area after someone spread it in Dallas. We could die at any time, so lets burn brightly until then and keep hope alive.

Keep hope alive that we'll see UBW anime, we'll see Heaven's Feel movies, one day Mahoyo will be translated, and that one day we'll play CCC in English.
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>>114687355
Taiga route is answer number 3!
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>>114687280
>The hype is fucking REAL
The hype died way back when the Fatemilk started with Ufotable's F/Z.
I actually determined to not involve with any Fate/* thing ever again, but this UBW adaption brought me back.
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>>114687208
>Slutty Shiki
NO
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>>114687383
>Fate/*

Hey it's the fag who thinks UBW is MoS.

Fag.
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>>114687206
This is why all the Nasuverse girls are sluts?
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