Lets have a thread up about Fate/Stay Night.
I'm new to series, I'm currently going through the visual novel (I'm on day 13 of the Fate route so try not to give out spoilers of other paths or the rest of my route please) and I just want to know do all three of the routes coincide with each other or are they like different paths/events based on the choices we (or the characters) make?
Also can someone tell me the synopsis of the UBW route and HF route?
They're different paths based on choices.
It's important to play all three of them, otherwise you miss out massive sections of the story.
Game forces you to play in order, Fate>UBW>HF.
UBW is Rin route, HF is Sakura route, everything else is spoilers.
Yeah, it'll turn into another type moon thread and everything will be spoiled for you. It's best to avoid everything about fate/ threads until you've at least read the VN
I know, I've read it, but having this version in particular end up as the Fate Archer would be pretty out there. I'm sure there are plenty if Shirous in the multiverse who got close to Archer, but never crossed the line as being a counter-guardian.
We'll see though. I'm looking forward to the next chapter.
>implying Sir Gawain wouldn't propose then sweep Taiga off her feet and marry her.
Why is Sir Gawain simply the best?
I'm not apologizing. I just don't like people getting her character so wrong. Calling her Wormslut implies that she likes what happens to her, which is a complete fabrication. She is to be pitied, not scorned.
>marrying anyone who can't cook
That Rider is lewd as hell. And Ilya is confused.
>implying you wouldn't
RIder is just taking the right course of action.
Shinji...I don't get why he gets all the hate on /a/. FSN is just written to make him out as the bad guy, when really he's no worse than any of the 'protagonists' and a better person than most of them.
What are the main complaints? He raped Sakura and stole Rider to use in the war?
Okay, let's get this straight. He never fucking raped Sakura. He never did it. He never did it. He never did it. He never did it. He fucked Sakura.
Let me ask you this. WHO IN THE GAME DIDN'T FUCK SAKURA? You can't even name one fucking character who hasn't plugged her loose cunt! She is the kind of bitch who will act like she doesn't want it when she really does. She'll say No! while having multiple orgasms. Shinji knew this, he's a fucking ladies man. He knows what filthy whores like Sakura want.
And there's this other big bitch you guys have with him. He supposedly stole Rider and used her in the war for his own greed.
Objection! He was worried about his one and only precious sister. Is keeping your loved ones from a brutal war so wrong? When Shirou does the same thing to Saber it's like 'oh he's so manly', but when Shinji does it it's wrong? He just wanted to protect Sakura. He probably was going to use his Holy Grail wish to tighten her cunt back up or cure her syphilis or something.
The story was written to make that faggot Shirou look good. Objectively, Shinji is a far better character than Shirou. At least he has the balls to take action decisively instead of dicking around like Shirou, and if he weren't stuck with the weak ass servant Rider and no plothax he probably would have won the war.
We need a Shinji version of pic related.
Because she's a kissless virgin.
Don't despair, bro, maybe they'll make another season after this new run.
I felt brain-dead after reading for so long. When I finished the Fate route... I felt so pissed off for no apparent reason. Maybe for taking so much of my time with no payoff. I didn't even finish UBW. I'm horrible with reading.
Shirou is a little cunt. Saber is an idiot. Rin was the only great character. Didn't see much of Archer though in Fate route.
Carry Illya to bed and put her to sleep.
Sorry guys, I chose the wrong picture accidentally
He's right thogh. Best Shirou is
I posted in CAPS which proves that Caren is superior.
can't argue with that
Caster actually came to the world with the idea that she wanted to leave behind her witch ways and fight fairly. She even says that she had never done such things in real life.
The only reason she started doing these things is because she went desperate when she found true love and wanted the grail so that she could stay with kuzuki.
It might work, because at first Caster would mistake Shirou's intentions like in UBW and think he wants revenge on the grail. This'd let her open up a little, maybe just enough to avert the bad end that is Shirou's ideals and her wickedness coming into contact.
And if by some chance they do both survive and get along, Shirou's set for life with a waifu. THE Waifu, even.
Kick Rin out and fuck Sakura and Illya
A couple of beers and some accidental homoerotic moments, they'll all be friends
>Caster helps shirou with his strengthening and projection
>He learns how to be a decent fighter mage that doesn't need plot armor every five seconds
>Caster doesn't resort to sucking life out of the population and shirou convinces her not to
>Acts as support while strengthing him with her own magic
they win the war in three days.
Is this the loli thread?
What should I do...
Seeing it put this way is funny. Is there any iteration of Gil that has him, post Epic. Because F/SN seems to have him acting like he does before Enkidu and his failed quest for immortality humbles him.
receive treatment for your loli complex
What that is exactly going to do? Break his contract with Kirei?
Do I need to remember you Fate route
The only reason Shirou promised to join the war and win the grail was because saber needed it to go back to the past and stop herself from becoming king.
Since casters only wish was to find a husbando who wouldn't betray her then neither of them would feel the need to actually actively fight to win the war.
I'm guessing they'd end up pretty lovey dovey with Caster learning cooking from Shirou while she strengthens the house's boundary fields to the point of being impenetrable and they set up an alliance with archer so that they can take care of gilgamesh.
The entire visual novel basically turns into a cooking slice of life with caster being the lovestruck heroine and shirou standing up for his ideal of protecting those he chooses to protect.
You're not putting it easy guys.
>The only reason Shirou promised to join the war and win the grail was because saber needed it to go back to the past and stop herself from becoming king.
This is bait right?
Shirou joined to war to stop the war and save people you shit
Silly anon. Rule Breaker doesn't work like that.
>Everyone teases her for being single at 25
Am I missing something?
No. But Taiga is missing a man.
I don't want to resort to the "shit taste" retort but this clearly calling for it. Your post is on the same level as those faggots that greentext the XD from XDCC.
Try thinking before making a post.
You're having a happy meal with your GF in the pool, then this guy comes, steals your food, calls it shit and slaps your GF ass.
What'd you do?
Call him a faker who doesn't have any nipples.
We know he had a lover, but we don't know who.
Hell, it straight up could have been Ciel, like, for real. We know she was the one who gave him his coat.
He has some fucking hot non-blood-related sisters...
I heard from some anon that in ataraxia it was said that his lover was a young looking girl who died a year after the war.
There's also the fact that an Illya route was planned, and that scene where he clearly states Illya turned him on the most at the pool.
Maybe Zecchan. You're clearly just suffering from "Bitch didn't have a route but I wanted to fuck her even once for I am the protagonist" complex. Don't worry, many Tsukifaggots had the same shit for Sacchin.
So sorry I couldn't get draw a Shinji version of your picture but I hope this is sufficient
UBW implies Archer likes Saber. Shirou even thinks he's bidding farewell Saber for the one who actually loves her (Archer).
FHA has her as the only thing he never forgot a shout out of the flash when they met.
Archer seems to be into Saber, but whether or not he fucked her it's up to debate.
That's because Mitsuzuri
is Rin's love interest
Ilya is a rotten cunt and nothing about her upbringing can justify it.
The Wiki claims he won the war, but I can't find any of the interviews that specifically claim he WON, as opposed to destroying the grail or simply surviving. Fate/Side material claims that "half of the Fate route is his".
Imagine this, yakuza fighting aginst giant shadow entities, using rocket launchers and other magic powered terrenal weaponry in a sea of flames, most of the fuyuki city is destroyed, the ryudou temple has a giant grail on the top.
Helicopters everywhere triying to shutdown the grail, saber jumping around on a fight with gilgamesh, GoB fully opened covering the entire sky with treasures raining on his enemies
Shirou fighting kirei at top of the ryoudou in front of the grail, taiga trapped inside the mud (just like shinji in ubw) illya dead and rin triying to escape the hell out of there with naked Sakura in her arms.
All of this while playing Light and Darkness ost in the background
>shirou body is swords and has archer's arm attached to him
>kirei has his mud heart
executors from the church and the magus association are in rampage all over the city, diying and sending more to control the chaos and shirou has two projections left
How are your brothers gawain?
Like actually showing interest in her I guess? Shirou treats her as a sister, but if he actually tried to make a move I don't think Taiga would be completely opposed. Maybe some initial hesitation at first, and they'd probably have to keep things on the down low until he graduated high school, but they could probably make it work.
>Fate/Side material claims that "half of the Fate route is his".
So it's safe to assume he fell for Saber. Even Shirou thought so in UBW. The point of difference must have been the first battle vs Rider, in day 9, which is where Saber weakens because she uses Excalibur.
He never could save Saber, I mean make her give up her wish, it's part of why he often aborts his suicidal mission to tell Saber her wish is WROOOONG even if it's essentially similar to his.
I want to know one question?
Do you have to go through all the bad ends in order to progress? As if your going back in time to do everything over again. Like Bazett is doing with Avenger.
>Archer's EX-rank Gar is NOTHING against a teenage, twin-tailed tsundere.
Rin could have at least tried to stop him wasting her money. I mean she would have failed and ended up horribly mangled or dead but it's the thought that counts
Sakura can have Shirou. Shirou is shit-tier
Emiya's word's hurt Emiya
>R:What is that, what is this? Why is there a you, Archer?
>A: Calm down, Rin. It would seem there are irregulars in this hgw.
>Your Archer: I see, what a Unicellular Organism(single-minded creature) I appear to be. No, excuse me, I'm just rambling about my past selves self-development. Worry not though, at least that Tohsaka Rin is not the same girl you know. That servants appearance... Could they be...
>R: There are a lot of things I would like to ask, but this isn't the time for questions. Archer, strike at them.
>A:At the heart. Rin, get back.
>Your Archer: They're coming, get ready.
Good man. What kind of faggotry are you into then?
Pick one. Luvia is easily the deeper of the two. Unlike Rin who was forcibly humbled by a certain priest. Luvia actually grows to respect someone as low-class as Shero. Her upbringing should deny her completely from the poor masses but she denies that and even makes friendly enemies with Rin of all people. You just cannot see the bigger picture because you only like main characters. You sick fuck.
He calls Kiara at least ten years too old for his taste, he dislikes his "Old wife", notes that he's entirely into physically younger girls, and his worst enemy in the data-book is Alice.
He's into a certain type of girl, and Taiga is pretty far away from it.
Go to bed, Luvia.
You'll never win the Shiroub owl no matter how hard you try.
>Luvia's relevancy will stay as being a side character in a magical girl spin off
>UBW will usher in a new generation of Type Moon fans who will unequivocally consider Rin the main girl
Hmph Irrelevant, both of you. Everyone knows the best characters are never main characters.
Though UBW guy does have a point...there is going to be a shit load of new Rin fans and Sakura is just going to copy that much more shit when they see how many shit we all give her now
So you're actually excited about about all the secondary retards who are going to make Rin their "waifu" after the UBW anime airs?
That is a hassle because then they might believe people think Luvia is better than Rin and guys looking for laughs on the internet will have to deal with people who haven't played the game using incomplete Rinformation in an argument
I need some help.
Can someone give me possible way for Shirou how to win HGW in Mind of Steel?
>Hasn't mastered projection
>Didn't got Archer's hint about his true nature
>Can't utilize rest of his circuit to use UBW
Realistically speaking, he has no chance to end HGW, become winner, or destroy HGW but Kirei (with almost 100% conviction) believe he will win.
Narration in the end tell us that Shirou win 5th HGW and kill all master (which mean he kill Zouken as well). How did he do it?
It's said he'll end up like his father, I can only assume in some ways Kotomine might mean half the town will die in fire and in this end it will have meant nothing despite the sacrifices.
The point is more after steeling his mind the way Kerry did he'll do whatever's necessary to get the job done. It doesn't matter how inconvenienced or disadvantaged he is, he'll find a way to do it. That's what made Kerry so dangerous before and during the 4th war.
He'd just play the shadows game and snipe people, most likely. Or just blow everything up.
I remember in previous route Shirou search everything for Kiritsugu's stash but can't find anything.
A possibility, but unlikely.
>Archer? Sure, he is his future self after all. Not too far fetched.
>Assassin? As long as he didn't killed first and acquire projection.
It's the best possible explanation. The problem is, he don't have Kiritsugu's knowledge, bomb material, or connection (to get the material).
I don't think you understand how far reaching plot armor goes. Shirou could very well bullshit himself into somehow making a pact with Gilgamesh, and just steamrolling through everything.
Plot Armour would also cover Berserker getting a stubbed toe and dying from it. Not just how much damage Shirou could tank to survive the series.
Shirou could have won just by assassinating as many of the masters as possible in the good old ways. Its not like Rin would have her guard up around him.
As for the ones he couldn't physically just kill...blank? It says he won the war so that presumes he got his corrupted wish but that could also imply he won by being the last standing and he just destroyed everything.
>Its not like Rin would have her guard up around him.
It's noted that she's out of her mind after having bloodied her hands with her own sister, she will now stop at nothing to get the grail. People really underestimate the situation for their own whims when they say shit like "He'll just seduce her" or "She'll give in willingly to him,since she loves him", nothing else matters but winning now because she has just broken herself in every way. She will be the final opponent for him.
>It says he won the war so that presumes he got his corrupted wish but that could also imply he won by being the last standing and he just destroyed everything.
Kotomine always tells half truth's, like "He will win the grail war", but someone who is not actually in the contest like a certain priest could come in at the end and snipe the prize, but he still won. It's said the outcome is obvious, he'll become like Kiritsugu, and we now know just what kind of legacy that really amounts to after he nuked part of the town on accident and fucked up everything in the end.
She's also likely to break down even further when she finally sees the grail, and realizes that it was impossible from the start, and this was all without meaning. It's in that moment that Shirou stabs her from behind while underneath the mountain. Then he decides to take down the grail as the final master, and gets struck from behind.
>I'm new to series
>try not to give out spoilers
At least you admitted you are new. How new are you to /a/? Also, asking for no spoilers will just open a can of worms here. I'd advise you to never ask that again.
Nagisa dies Lelouch dies Spike dies
Like what? Some incidental things are different (as with any alternate Zelretch universe), but in general the Prisma universe adheres to the mechanical rules of everything else in the Nasuverse.
It's a branch path, a very divergent time-line. As long as it's official it's real, and we know Nasu has already started to bullshit how the rules can be different here without it contradicting somehow.
We'll never get to be Space Bros
What's with the shitty filter? Why would you even tamper with this masterpiece?
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Sacchin what are you doing in Nero's body?
She lived happily ever after, right?
Why is Akiha so much better than Rin? Why is Rin so shit?
Go and read Tsukihime
Sorry but I know how that ends
She only has eyes for one person.
It predated the Jean one.
>Akiha a rape, just like her father.
Runs in the family
TAIGA IS 25?!
I'm 25 and haven't accomplished anything in my life.
I wouldn't call it losing her shit, I'd say it's a calm rage. Like she could entirely believe it and understood it with only a few words, so she was like "I'm just going to go ahead and get this out now" and cursed him a bit since she was going to die anyway at that point.
She knew him, she didn't lose her shit after hearing it, rather she understood quite instantly with a sigh that he's this sort of person all along.
you ever punched a nigga so hard
he turned into swords?
In what ways exactly? Watching them ask dumb questions that most know the answers to?
Subtly spoilering them on minor and/or inconsequential things in batches with one big spoiler mixed in?
>He can use Illya and Rin to kill Zouken and then poison them over dinner. Kirei never said he'll survive the war only that he'll kill those three.
Actualy he just said that he would atleast make it to the final showdown against Rin
It would probably go like this
>Zouken and assassin get killed by either Illya or Kotomine/Gil, maybe even Rin
>Berserker gets killed by Gil like in UBW and some heart wrenching sadness happens.
>Gil/Kotomine go up against Archer/Rin, Archer, being a counter to Gil, kills him since UBW>GoB, Archer and Rin win but both are completely drained of mana, exhausted and probably fatally wounded.
>Shirou saw all this and manages to understand Archer's projection.
>Seeing both GoB and UBW increased his weapons library to beyond Archer level.
>Shirou kills an exhausted Archer and Rin.
>Shirou uses his last projection to destroy the Grail.
pulling it outta my ass but this is what I thought of.
There's a lot more shit happening in the later part of the route than there is in the earlier parts. This is true of all the routes, although a little less so for UBW. 12 might be overshooting it a little bit, but they're not gonna split it halfway.
Hear me out on this.
Each route of FSN has to do with Shirou discovering a new facet of his powers, right? Fate, projecting not just physical objects, but the object's history, its unique properties and such. UBW, duh, UBW. HF, replicating not just the physicality and properties of an object but also the technique and skills inherent in its best use, Nine Lives, Sparks Liner High, etc.
Caster Route could teach him how to, instead of replicating the truth of an object's physicality, history, properties, techniques, etc., recreate his mind's eye of these values. For instance, if Caster were to produce the Argon Coin (which she knows to be useless to her), Shirou would recognize it not as the dragon-summoning tool but instead as the legendary Golden Fleece, along with its renown as an indestructible armor, which Shirou could then trace and use to defend himself.
HF Shirou literally piggybacks on his heroic spirit self that followed the ideals he threw away.
I still say NLBW was an asspull especialy since it makes Archer look like a complete retard
Even the side material says about UBW and his projection ability
>Against a normal opponent this is little more than a mildly annoying ability, but it is the natural enemy of a certain King of Heroes.
It's like Nasu needed another asspull to make HF work
>Archer uses Kanshou and Bakuya like Shirou does in spark liner highs
>Archer wins the war in 3 days
>Nine live works
>Archer wins the war
But yeah, asspulls and shit all over everything
Shirou: I want to save everybody!
Shirou: I want to save everybody!
Archer: That is both a logical contradiction and a denial of the self.
Shirou: But the ideal encompasses an aesthetic that makes the endless journey worth it. Why can't I selfishly pursue selflessness?
Archer: Fuck, you're right.
Gilgamesh: MONGRELS! THOSE SWORDS ARE FUCKING PATENTED!
Shirou: I want to save everybody!
Archer: That is a logical contradiction and a denial of the self. If you do not realize this, you get no Sakura sex.
Shirou: You're right. I'm a moral relativist. God is dead.
Archer: That’s the spirit. Here‘s a present before I go away, don‘t mind it if it starts to kill you.
Kotomine: But I'm still evil somehow, right?