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Scanlation thread.

What are you working on?
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Scanning my backlog of manga. I'd like to get into editing, but my eyes suck and my monitor isn't that great.
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I just discovered GREYCstoration thanks to a kind tripfag over on /w/. I'm most of you all knew about it already; I'm a newbie though. Really useful plugin, though fairly complicated. I'm still trying to find the right settings for these scans.

De-noise then level, or level then de-noise?
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>>113266494
Well, I'm pretty new, but I think maybe something like typesetting would be pretty easy for you. You don't need great vision or monitor since the cleaner should've made it all nice for you anyway. You just a willingness to spend a bunch of your free time putting words on the page and picking appropriate fonts/styles.
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>>113266602
If it's denoising at 3000px+ then nothing is better than Topaz, really (on the right hands).
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>>113267103
Not this shit again.
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>>113267008
Well, GREYCstoration is free, so there's that. I haven't tried anything else. Before this I was manually trying to level and blur to remove noise and getting less-than-ideal results to put it nicely.
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>>113267103
give, dude!
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>>113267150
>Well, GREYCstoration is free, so there's that.
You say that like scanlators buy topaz. Or Photoshop for that matter.
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>>113267103
I have no idea what this is or why people respond negatively to it, but it looks cool and I wish I had it. Rotating things manually is easy but tedious.
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>>113267103
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>>113267215
People respond negatively to it because the faggot never shared the script. A scrip like that could actually work very well for a lot of pages. One example where it would be a bad idea would obviously be spreads but other than that it'd be useful for the most part.
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>>113267225
>feed raws into autofeed on scanner
>all straight, all scanned automatically
Who even scans their pages wonky anyway, thats a fucking disgrace.
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>>113267315
Flatbed scanners provide higher quality raws than autofeed scanners.
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>>113267315
There's no rotation going on. Scanned pages from autofeed scanners tend to be straight for the most part. If the pages were a mess before you put them on the scanner, the scans would be a mess too.
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>>113267419
depends on the scanner. mine was over £500 and is high quality, the cheaper ones are horrifying though and are meant for monochrome text documents.
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>>113267315

I have a flatbed scanner, sometimes my pages come out wonky because the top cover moves the page slightly when I put it down.
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I finished QCing Dumbpire 37 yesterday. Think we're still waiting on cleaning though.
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>>113267270
I guess that makes sense.

>>113267194
I guess I'll have to look into that then. Playing around with GREYCstoration a bit more, I finally got some pretty good results and I can even throw them into an action I use for all these pages. Shit's pretty slow on my old ass laptop though. Is topaz pretty slow too? i just assume anything I'm going to try here is going to be pretty slow since they're large files with lots of noise.
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>>113267960
Depends on how good your computer is, really.
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I'm trying to find some good Pixiv manga to work on, but I have no idea how to navigate to stuff that isn't complete shit. Artists that I like really aren't the type to have a Pixiv, either.
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Soon
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>>113268016
Yeah, mine is not that good anymore. I think I'll just stick to this since I think I've got it pretty well figured out now, but whenever I get a new machine I'll try to remember Topaz.
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>>113267960
My laptop is 4 years old, i3 M330 @ 2.13 GHz with 4 GB of RAM. 600DPI scans are really the only raws that are slow and that's because I set them through more than one topaz denoise. 300DPI are a lot faster. Just a few months ago I was doing 450DPI raws with topaz denoise 5 + surface blur and in about an hour it finished doing all of the preliminary cleaning for 35+ pages. Keep in mind though I had it do more shit than just denoise. What really slowed it down was when I upscaled to 8000px to level shit.
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>>113268294
>when I upscaled to 8000px to level shit.

Okay, this is probably stupid question, but what? Why?
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>>113268363
It affects the anti aliasing of lines less, I don't remember the exact explanation of why. These were shitty magazine raws though, so it's not going to be the same for high quality raws like tankobon ones or from magazines with amazing paper and printing. I don't have to do that anymore because the magazine switched to better printing so now I can pre-clean in 20 minutes, then level in another 20 minutes, then redraw and burn anything that needs it, and finally downscale and typeset.
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>>113268294
Topaz sounds pretty comparable to GREYCstoration then. My setup is pretty similar (less RAM but a decent GPU) and it took somewhere between 1 and 2 minutes to do that page. Still way faster than just going over everything with a white brush which was what I thought I'd have to end up doing.
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>>113268294
>>113268532
Also one of the main reasons things would slow down is because I make a separate copy layer of the raw where I do all the cleaning while keeping the raw on the bottom without being touched. This doubles the size of the PSD and so it slows down Ps in some things.
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I abandoned my typesetting and cleaning skills to take translating, am I a bad person?
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>>113268532
Huh, that sounds nice. I'll have to try it out.
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>>113268625
Not at all, translators are lacking.
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>>113268625
I'd say translators are more in-demand so that's probably a good thing.
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>>113268625
Not at all, you're a wonderful people and I really appreciate what you do.
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>>113267103
What exactly is this?
Is it software I can buy somewhere?
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>>113268059
This makes me happy, even if twerking is a cancerous normal fag meme.
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>>113268824
It's either an action or a script made on Ps.
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>>113268858
Ah.
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>>113268875

#target Photoshop
app.bringToFront;
var inFolder = Folder.selectDialog("Please select folder to process");
if(inFolder != null){
var fileList = inFolder.getFiles(/\.(jpg|tif|psd|)$/i);
var outfolder = new Folder(decodeURI(inFolder) + "/Edited");
if (outfolder.exists == false) outfolder.create();
for(var a = 0 ;a < fileList.length; a++){
if(fileList[a] instanceof File){
var doc= open(fileList[a]);
doc.flatten();
var docname = fileList[a].name.slice(0,-4);
CropStraighten();
doc.close(SaveOptions.DONOTSAVECHANGES);
var count = 1;
while(app.documents.length){
var saveFile = new File(decodeURI(outfolder) + "/" + docname +"#"+ zeroPad(count,3) + ".jpg");
SaveJPEG(saveFile, 12);
activeDocument.close(SaveOptions.DONOTSAVECHANGES) ;
count++;
}
}
}
};
function CropStraighten() {
executeAction( stringIDToTypeID('CropPhotosAuto0001'), undefined, DialogModes.NO );
};
function SaveJPEG(saveFile, jpegQuality){
jpgSaveOptions = new JPEGSaveOptions();
jpgSaveOptions.embedColorProfile = true;
jpgSaveOptions.formatOptions = FormatOptions.STANDARDBASELINE;
jpgSaveOptions.matte = MatteType.NONE;
jpgSaveOptions.quality = jpegQuality;
activeDocument.saveAs(saveFile, jpgSaveOptions, true,Extension.LOWERCASE);
}
function zeroPad(n, s) {
n = n.toString();
while (n.length < s) n = '0' + n;
return n;
};

This is what a few minutes of googling got me.
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>>113269101
Time to try this shit out.
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Sometimes I notice that the cleaning in manga I read is done very very poorly, like the cleaner just did some black brush strokes to hide some shit and didn't bothered to level the rest. Well, I gave it some thoughts and came to conclusion that it might be my monitor settings, and I'm seeing shit I'm not supposed to.
Is there a way to check how my end result would look on different monitors?
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>>113269202
The way I do it is set brush tool, alt+left click on where I brushed over text, look at the numbers on the left bar, then do the same on the blacks and whites after leveling. If the blacks are all 0 then it should be the same.
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>>113269202
No you're almost definitely seeing people being lazy. Black should be black and white should be white.
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>>113269202
It is the monitor settings, but it's not a problem with you. It's the editor/cleaner's monitor settings making them think that a dark grey/improperly leveled black tone is actually solid black, so they don't finish it properly. I mean I guess you could adjust your monitor settings to be darker so that you don't see it, but that'd sort of be like asking for a full set of spices to reseason a dish you ordered at a restaurant because the chef forgot to add salt and pepper.
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>>113268363
It's to protect the antialiasing and tones.

On the left, leveled at 3000px and on the right, leveled at 8000px. The difference is clear.
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>>113269202
Or cleaner's monitors are shit.

I agree with others, black should be black etc.

Currently behind schedule on a title I doubt /a/ reads....? Gundam stuff. It's been a rough few weeks but I found 2 new PSers
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For a monthly magazine, Dessert sure has some shitty page quality.
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>>113269858
I forgot my image.
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>>113269858
Monthly magazine doesn't necessarily mean good quality, unfortunately.
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>>113269317
I see. Well, last question.
Sometimes after straightening out the scan along the panel lines (and these panels are supposed to be straight, I've double checked with ellipsis in the bubbles and other scans) page ends up uneven, so I have to crop off parts of the page. If I were to use distort transformation to fit all the shit into proper rectangle, it end up fucking up screentone in the panes that weren't fitting in.
Is there a trick to this shit or the scanner just simply fucked up?
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>>113269909
No. Sometimes you just have to crop a bit of the art.
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>>113269939
It pains me to do such thing. Especially if the scans have almost all pages like this.
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>>113269909
Unless you're going to redraw all the missing shit you're going to have to crop it.
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>>113269479
Wow. I just tried it and you're right. The difference is hugely noticeable too. Damn. Knowing this there's no way I can let myself skip that step now. Only problem I'm going to have with this is that it took a LOT longer to de-noise the upscaled page.

In case it's not obvious what's happening in this picture: bottom layer was scaled up before de-noising and leveling. Marquee shows the cutout in the top layer which was denoised and leveled on the regular sized raw.
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Reposting an issue from last thread that got no replies:

I'm pretty much a beginner when it comes to redrawing, and a problem I've been finding is that while I have a drawing tablet, even photoshop's 1px brush is really thick and clunky compared to the manga's lines, and no amount of tweaking with settings that I can see can make it sharper/thinner.

I've also tried:
-Using a stroked pen tool
-Drawing the lines then erasing the sides to make them thinner

Is this an existing problem or am I not using photoshop properly?
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>>113270090
You're not supposed to desnoise at 8000px.
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>>113270090
Just denoise at 3000, resize to 8000, level, then resize back to 3000, and then resize to your release resolution.
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>>113269909
Honestly, I've noticed a ton of books are simply printed a bit crooked to begin with.

If it's on EVERYTHING then it may actually be your scanner. If the arm is at an angle, it can cause the scans to be uneven. It can also be caused if the glass of the bed is sinking in on one side. What happens is that part of it ends up being scanned a bit larger as it's slightly closer and it makes the lines uneven. I'm not sure if that's what you're describing, but that's one of the problems with my scanner.
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>>113270090
...I can't tell which is supposed to be better.
I mean, the stuff in the selection boxes might be a bit too sharp but that's definitely preferable to how blurry the rest is.
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>>113270134
When I have those issues I just erase the excess with a white brush or with clone stamp tool if it's on tones.
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>>113270327
Yeah, the selection is the bottom layer which I scaled up before denoising and leveling. It looks much better. I only just found this denoiser today, so I'm still learning it and I might have over-leveled a bit too. I'm just amazed at what a huge difference scaling it up before doing all that makes.
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>>113270471
Just do it like >>113270253 said, there's no need to denoise at 8000.
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>>113270134
Use the pen tool instead, then modify the result as you see fit.
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>>113270535
It won't make the results worse? I'll have to test that since it would be much faster. I'm doing it in the correct order, right? Denoise, then level. Testing different processes is slow going.
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>>113269890
The only shoujo I've ever liked, and I like it a lot
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>>113270469
Hmmm, I've tried that but it was quite fiddly, but thanks if there's really no other way around it.

Though in light of what else is going on in this thread maybe I could upscale the page before doing the redraws, I'll remember that for next time.
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>>113270647
No, it won't make it worse. The point of upscaling to 8000 is to level it, not denoise, so that the antialiasing and tones will look better as you can see in >>113269479
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>>113270693
>Though in light of what else is going on in this thread maybe I could upscale the page before doing the redraws
I tried that once before, it looked like shit.
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>>113270578
Is there extra stuff you can do with the pen tool to make the line thinner?

Admittedly I didn't look extensively but don't you have to choose a tool to stroke it with, which would still lead to an overly thick line since the smallest tool is the 1px brush?
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>>113270657
Same. I like it enough to really put some effort into it.
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>>113270291
I don't have the scans on me right now, but it's something like this. I straightened out by left vertical edge of the panels and then by horizontal edges of the panes using skewing. Rotating ain't better.
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>>113270762
Why do you need something skinnier than 1 pixel? Those lines on that hair appear to be thicker than 1 pixel.
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>>113269202

That's why I'm afraid to become a cleaner unless I have a nice monitor that's been correctly color-calibrated.

How am I supposed to know? Do I zoom in all the way until I see a grid of pixels, and then check it? Mess with the contrast somehow to make it more obvious?
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>>113270827
This would show it better.
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>>113267103
Is this making several passes to rotate the image? Seeing it resize several times makes me think it does.
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>>113267789
Based, based anon.
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>>113270857

That's zoomed in 150%

The two squiggles in the middle are what I get with the stroked pen tool and the 1px brush tool respectively.
There's a pretty clear mismatch with the actual lines.
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>>113271210

I'm just the new QC guy. Don't expect much out of me in the form of information. I know as much as you do.
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>>113270090

Are my scans okay?
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>>113271249
Upscale -> Draw -> Downscale?
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How the fuck do you even get into cleaning, it seems so intimidating. Are there reliable tutorials (Red Hawk, etc).?
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>>113271848
>Are there reliable tutorials (Red Hawk, etc).?
Not at all, all the cleaning tutorials are outdated and no one who currently cleans has made a new one with current software that people use. RH has a typesetting tutorial which is actually pretty good but I wouldn't trust them with cleaning.
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>>113271848
Install GIMP, take dropper tool to background, erase ching chong in bubbles.

So hard and scary.
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>>113272006

I like you, you should join Crunchy and provide quality cleans.
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Wait a moment, you guys level layers manually, without using level layer mask? Is there something wrong with level layer mask?
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>>113271848
Simply redraw the entire page.
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>>113270134
Perhaps try MyPaint for redrawing.

http://mypaint.intilinux.com/
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How hard would it be to get into cleaning raws?
I feel like I want to give back to all the anons who gave me manga.
I've got alot of free time, I'm half decent at photoshop and a decent bit of autism.
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>>113272357
Install GIMP, take dropper tool to background, erase ching chong in bubbles.
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>>113272357
>decent bit of autism
That's all you need.
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>>113272006
>ching chong in bubbles
>in bubbles

I wish it was that simple...
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>>113272357

Use your autism, zoom in to 500%, and erase any pixels that would qualify as dust or damage so that everything is even, and then enjoy knowing that literally no one but you will know the difference.

It's rewarding, though.
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>>113271284
Oh hey, scanner person. I guess so, but I don't really have any basis for comparison here being such a newbie. I know they're a lot harder for me to work with that the public raws were because I have no idea what I'm doing yet. I think once I get it figured out, the results will be nicer than what we got from when I was using the wrong files for the last batch though. Particularly, the screentones should look nicer and being able to release at a high resolution will be nice too. I was warned about cat hairs. Haven't found any yet.
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>>113272387
I use PS CS6 though...
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>>113272391
Yeah, sometimes it's rectangles.
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>>113272391
Well, ching choing in transparent bubbles is for perverts who prefer higher difficulty setting.
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>>113272456
Get CC '14, man. It comes with GIMP.
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Do any of you release the 600 DPI png for spreads, etc. for people who want them? I have some Hanashippanashi spreads that I got from a thread a long time ago because the editor was nice enough to post them.

I think that should be done more often.
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>>113272498
I don't know what that is.
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>>113233018

get on it weebs

Please
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>>113270134
Try the pen tool as mentioned - you can make filled-in areas of any thickness you want.
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Would someone please picked up World Trigger.
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>>113272476
>>113272471
Even in something easy like Nichijou you get text over things and not inside bubbles with a fair amount of frequency. It varies a lot obviously but I'd say on average I usually end up redrawing 10-15 things? It's usually just objects in the background or pieces of people's heads which are no problem. Irregular screentones are the ones that bother me.

That all feels like the easy part compared to trying to learn how to denoise and level properly right now though.
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>>113272661
Why are World Trigger fans so impatient? Yeah, they aren't releasing weekly and it's been a while since the last release, but there are a lot of things that get released a lot slower. Just deal with it
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>>113272006
>GIMP
>scanlating with GIMP
I never understood why people would do this to themselves.
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>>113272803
That's not just WT readers, it's people who don't read manga much and don't know how shit works.
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>>113272901
Freetards.
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>>113272163
There isn't, it's just a thing of preference. Some people prefer curves layer as well instead of levels.
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I do a lot of a doujin scanning but my scanner can't into png, I have a Epson Perfection V37.

I'm trying to improve the quality of my scans a bit. Is there anything better I can do than scan them as jpgs with no compression? I've tried tiff, but there's no noticeable difference when you crank the blacks up really high to check for dust and artifacts.

Pic related is something I just pulled off the scanner.
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>>113272543
I downscale shit automatically with a batch action right after I'm done cleaning so I don't save them at original size. If I redraw them at original size that is, sometimes it's actually easier to do them at release size if the space between them is just a pixel or 2.
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I've never seen /a/ recommend scanners. Is there not enough of a knowledge base on /a/ for that? If the scan fucks up, it's a difficult road.

What scanners do you guys use? I'd prefer one with multiple light sources.
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>>113273035
I prefer scanners that will rescan page on demand and not just disappear into oblivion after initial scan.
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I did about 15 scripts on the backlog this week. Almost caught up.

Released around 4 chapters.

Gonna redraw this sometime this weekend.


>>113272965
Doesn't look bad to me, but I'm not that big of a quality whore. I have a Canon Lide 210 and it's fucking awesome.

It's about three years old though, so I might invest in a new one soon.
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My scans are always a little dark. Is this just something I have to accept (because I've noticed that better paper produces more level scans), or will it change if I get a new scanner?
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>>113273127
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>>113273239
Should be just a matter of changing the settings.
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>>113273130
Yeah, the scans aren't too bad. But my OCD has been bugging me about improving.

For the paper quality of that doujin I should have dropped the contrast settings a bit more so the grays don't get leveled out.
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On a scale from very to not at all, how important is it that you make all the pages in your releases the same size?
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>>113273441
Considering it takes literal seconds to set the height of every page equal it's not really a matter of importance. Just do it.
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>>113273495
Width should be uniform also I guess, huh? Canvas size rather than image size so I'm not screwing it all up. Guess that means cropping a bit. Oh well. A bit of grass next to a tree is no big deal really.
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>>113272965
That's actually pretty good as it is now.

>>113273441
Depends on how much autism you have, I personally don't give a fuck so long as the height is the same.

>>113273495
I think he means that every page is something like 1125x1600 instead of some being 1120x1600, 1118x1600, 1126x1600, etc.
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>>113273630
>Width should be uniform also I guess
Nah, that's doesn't really matter.
>>113273669
>I think he means that every page
If that's what he meant, yeah, it's a waste of time to make both dimensions uniform.
Just making all the highest equal is enough.
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>>113273755
>heights*
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>>113272901
I use it because I don't know a good way to get photoshop without using pirate bay and I'm paranoid about being sued by Adobe for some reason.
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>>113273889
You know I don't even remember where I downloaded my CS6 from.
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>>113273889
inb4 that Photoshop™ shill comes back.
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>>113273889
>I'm paranoid about being sued by Adobe for some reason.

Oh god, what a faggot.
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>>113269882
download the trial. its infinite and actually the fullversion.

who buy ps in 2014... get with the times u fat fucking linux neckbeard
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>>113274022
What the fuck?

Stop typing like an illiterate 14 year old
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>>113274022
>>>/v/
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Does manga even translate the sfx anymore?
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>>113273669
I'm curious as to how you made the page more white and made it look less.......raw?
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>>113274631
forgot image.
Not sure if I should erase the sfx in this one
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>>113274643
That's what cleaning is about.
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>>113274631
sfx are better left alone unless they're plot important. They're usually a pain to clean and sometimes they don't mean anything.
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>>113274747
This one comes right into the bubble, though.
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>>113274745
On a serious note you can make the whites actually white with the levels tool.
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>>113274834
but it means *wink*
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>>113274834
If your translator translated the sfx, you clean it and let the typesetter do the magic. Also, redrawing bubbles is easy.
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Maybe it's just because I'm new to this denoising stuff and I'm doing it in a probably stupid way, but it actually made a very big difference to do the denoising at the larger resolution. Denoising at the lower resolution, the filter took out most of the noise but also messed up some screentones. At the higher resolution is only removed most of the noise. Didn't really see a different between leveling at the higher or lower resolutions, probably because I'm denoising first?

Took me a while to do the comparison though.

I assume I'm doing something out of order here or otherwise making a silly mistake.
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>>113274873
Personally I redraw sound effect like sounds made by characters, such as coughing, laughing and stuff like that. *wink* falls into this category as well.
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>>113274631
It's a shame most translators ignore sfx. Many famous manga have spawned iconic onomatopoeia that never caught on with western fans. Think Jojo, Dragonball, Hokuto no Ken etc.
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>>113275255
No, it's because your denoising settings are too strong for the resolution you have.
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>>113275255
Let me see the original raw.
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>>113275341
I just like to imagine that they just can't into Japanese onomatopoeia. Helps me sleep at night.
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>>113275341
it's another level of weeb to know what all of them mean
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>>113275375
Are you familiar with GREYCstoration? Any useful tips for me? I found very little in the way of documentation for it online so I'm mostly just changing things at random trying to find settings that work.

>>113275516
It's a big .tif so I put it up on pomf: http://a.pomf.se/nazshe.tif

I really appreciate the help, anons.
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>>113274839
Man that took me about 30 seconds, that wasn't very difficult.
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>>113275646
Not at all I'm basing this on experience cleaning pages.
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>>113275646
At this point I think it's either that the program might not be suited for manga or your denoising settings are too strong and so detail is lost. Here's with surface blur + topaz denoise 5. It's kind of hard to lose detail with that kind of page size though, so I'm confident the settings are too strong for the job.
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I've downloaded the only raw available (shitty scanned at 1775px) for the newest JUMP in attempt to cleaning the lastest oneshot.
But when I saw the grey, it startled me...
How can I improve them? They haven't tones anymore...
Have you some tips?
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>>113276243
>public weekly shounen jump raws
Nothing you can do about it, sadly. Public raws for weekly magazines are absolutely awful.
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>>113276181
Speed lines look aliased now, though.
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>>113276181
Ah, woops. That was actually a different page that I was working on last night. Same difference really. I get the idea. I'm pretty sure people use this GREYCstoration thing for manga all the time, or at least used to. I guess Topaz is the new hotness though and something I should look into because I like those results.
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I'm moving the rips for Young Magazine the 3rd to a different folder, so the previous Mediafire link won't work soon.

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ub5cokzffka74/YM_The_3rd

Organized by chapter, individual archives. If anyone's interested in some new serializations.
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>>113276669
>I guess Topaz is the new hotness though
If by new you mean 4-5 years in use, sure. Before Topaz scanlators used NeatImage.
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>>113276842
Ah well, in case it wasn't obvious already, I'm a newbie and have no idea what I'm doing.
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GIMP is good enough.
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>>113277123
>that awful UI
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>>113277169
Corel is worse. Fuck Corel.
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>>113277123

That art looks familiar. What are you working on?
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>>113277123
GIMP is superior because it respects your freedoms.
However, Windows is still closed source and you are thus being oppressed by using it.
Defenestrate it (which means, either throw Windows out of the computer or throw the computer out of the window).”
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>>113277292
It's Iwaaki's debut work.

>>113277376
Time for bed, RMS.
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Who is your favorite translator/scanlator, /a/?
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>>113277573
Me.
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>>113277573

Is this the part where we samefag?

Me.
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>>113270827
Hmm, the problem I have is only one of those. So just the top green square and it's because the corner that gets all stretched out is where the glass is sinking in.

It could be caused by there being something wring with/in the track.
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>>113277573
Him.
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>>113277573
No. As if there isn't already enough ego tripping in the scanlation scene.
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>>113277573
The ones who help each other out and share scripts and actions.
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>>113277590
>>113277621
Wrong answer, this >>113277656 is the correct answer.
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>>113277573
Anonymous.
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>>113277573
>translator
Thaifag sucks at English, but he has an special place in my heart.
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>>113277573
This guy called /a/non. He's pretty damn awesome. I wonder he manages to scanlate like 100+ chapters in less than a month.
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>>113277573
Yuri-ism
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>>113277573

As long as they're humble enough and contribute, /a/non.
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>>113277573
Daiz.
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>>113277741
>>113277854
This.
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Since all(or enough) of you are in the same thread I've wanted to thank you all for the tireless and thankless work you do to keep me moderately entertained.
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>>113278095
You better donate for raws next time, faggot, or I'll take my thankless work hostage.
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I randomly found scans of Barefoot Gen v5. Never heard of this Open Library initiative before, but it looks like they work with Web Archive.

Also, who uploads scanlations to web archive? I mean, seriously. That's just bizarre.
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>>113278095
if she didn't want to be kissed why didn't she just close her mouth or bite brown elf's tongue
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I just fixed my HDD but I have to restore bunch of shit.

...Fuck, and in the end, I didn't proofread anything for the dump...
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>>113278095
>thankless
The download numbers are the thanks.
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>>113278317
>elf
She's a grail, anon.
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>>113278625
This.

Or even the people reading on readers.

I just want people to read the shit I do.
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>>113278750
>188.3k views
I consider all of these thanks.
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>>113278750
The one thing I dislike is when some group take my scanlation and retranslate to their native language and does shit job at editing.
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>>113278876
and don't give you credit for it.

I had one too many of this.
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>>113278876
>mfw spanish groups straight translate my JP -> ENG TLs
Fuck dude, if I didn't know Spanish I probably wouldn't mind but their TL is awful word for word shit that looks like it just went through GoogleTL
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>>113278967
>"No puede ser ayudado"

Worse than Hitler.
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>>113278967
>translates friendship as AMIGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>113278926
>>113278967

I don't really give a shit.

To belittle everything:

>muh credit
>muh epeen

Once it's on the internet, it's out there. I'm okay with people taking my releases and doing them in their own languages in some country that I've never heard of. I'll never look at them anyway.
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>>113278926
Who the fuck cares about the credit, I do my shit anonymously.
>>113278967
I blame my curiocity for checking up how bad is Russian scanlation scene. It's like watching anime with Commie shitsubs hardsubbed by Funimation.
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>>113279100
I'm >>113278967
My problem isn't epeen, people can do whatever they want with the shit I upload. My problem is the word for word translation. It bothers my autism.
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>>113279127
>>113279100
I'm just saying they shouldn't be going around and suggesting they made the scans and did all the editing themselves. It's pathetic and a huge pile of shit.
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>>113279207

Why do you care about what anonymous BRs do with scans that you posted online?
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>>113278095
It's not thankless at all. I'm just a scanner, but since it's the only thing I can do to contribute, I do it. Giving something back when you take something is fundamental.

>>113278876
I don't even mind that. It's when shit SECRET CLUB mentality groups use my scans and then hide the result under passwords and join only groups that I become annoyed. Fuck man, I don't even ask to be credited just share them. That's the entire point of why I scanned them, so people can enjoy it.

The whole 'you must felate us thiiiis much to be allowed to read the things we don't even have copyright on' attitude is shit.
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>>113278967
The worst is reading English TLs that are so shittily translated it's like Google Translate.

Translation isn't just taking words from language and putting them into another. You're not a walking talking dictionary. Anyone can do that shit.

Translation is a goddamn artform. You translate meanings, not words. What are they trying to say? Why are they saying what they're saying? Who are you translating these words for? And how do the cultures differ?

If you're not thinking about all that shit, you're not a good translator.

source: getting my master's in Japanese translation
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>>113279274
Go back to scanlating TL-fag, you have a backlog to finish.
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>>113279272
I hate making forums accounts. Even worse is where your account has to actually be approved. I'm kind of sorry for whoever actually cares about the BL scene.
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>>113279265
like I said, I don't care what they do with it. I just had a demented past where I ripped and scanned raw, and there were few groups that took donation jars and shit and made it look like it was all their work.

They're not just lying to me, they're lying to everybody. That's just wrong. That's all I wanted to point out.
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>>113279350
I've only seen similar shit on jcafe24, where you have to make a fucking introduction post about yourself to be able to download raws.
Is there anything good there anyway?
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>>113279455
Nope
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>>113279455
Dengeki Daioh and Comic Alive.
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>>113279274
>Anyone can do that shit.
The sad thing is that a lot of people can't.
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>>113279455
Used to be great. They die then come back then die again, I stopped caring about it
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>>113279350
Forums accounts suck, but the really terrible kind is LiveJournal scanlation groups that have requirements like
>You must have an active personal journal for X months
>Your account must be at least X years old
>Write an essay on why you want to join and why you should be allowed to read our scans

Fuck those guys. I actually got stuck in a situation where one group used the raws I scanned, and then didn't approve me to join their secret club because I had just created an account and didn't keep a diary. I wasn't allowed to read the scanlations for my own fucking scans.
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>>113279455
That's the only place where i saw raws of this hosted.

https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=35219
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>>113279455
Be happy, it used to be 10 posts back when I made my account now you just have to make 1 and then you're free to download forever.
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>>113279350
>BL scene
Or the chinese scanlation scene.

>>113279534
Yep, sounds like a significant portion of chink scanlation.
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>>113279534
Hetalia?
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>>113279274
If you take that too far you become Commie, though.

I genuinely do enjoy learning small things about japanese idioms and anecdotes from manga, and if they were replaced by western approximations rather than translated literally with a tl note then you don't get that small bit of culture.
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>>113279484
I dunno.

I had a guy apply for my group once, somehow did a good job on the translation test.

Then he couldn't do a five-page ecchi one-shot within two days. I asked him what the issue was and he said he was having a hard time looking up kanji.

Found out that he was looking up every individual kana/kanji and then plugging it into different translator programs. That's why it took so long.

Had to revise my TL test after that.
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>>113279553
That's never going to be done, is it?
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Got nine volumes of Special Stage a couple days ago, finished reading through the first volume today trying to get a feel for it.

Gonna start scanning it tomorrow morning since there aren't any already available anywhere, fellow aut/o/bots might like this one. There are a whole lot of two page spreads too, looking forward to doing them.
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>>113279607
Holy shit I remember reading that story awhile back. Still find it hard to believe someone would do that.
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>>113279645
I asked hox and he said he'd work on it eventually.
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Translators/scanlators tell me your opinions about the "unspoken/Unwritten rule" of not stealing your manga/project.
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>>113279645

Maybe. It got dumped not that long ago.

>>112017197
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>>113279714
If they haven't released it in 2 months, it's up for grabs.

Still nice to ask if they want 'help' first.

Don't fucking take my shit if I released something just this week.
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>>113279553
Guess now's the good time to ask whether the link of Radio Heads raws is still alive there. Please tell me it is. I can't believe shit just disappeared from the web.
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>>113279714
It began back in the early ages of scanlation when very few shit was translated. The point of it was that since there was so much manga one could work on yet very few groups to work on shit it would be a bad idea for people to work on the same thing. It's still about waste of resources, but eventually it evolved into an epeen kind of thing as well.
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>>113279586
Agreed. It can be surprisingly enjoyable to learn these little things.
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>>113279754
I thought it was 3 months. Or 6, I can't remember anymore.
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>>113279274
help me translate something anon TL
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>>113279714

It all comes down to epeen. Either another group grabs the project because they want in on readers/ad money, or the original group gets buttmad because someone else decided to work on it as well.

Disregarding epeen, if the group is slow as hell or is doing a poor job, go for it. Who fucking cares.
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>>113279776
>but eventually it evolved into an epeen
It was a good case ruined by faggots, so sad.
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>>113279714
I follow the mangaupdates requirement for considering a group as inactive. If it's been abandoned for longer than that, then it's fair game.
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>>113279755

http://www.jcafe24.net/index.php?topic=28505.0

This? Dead link. I'm sure someone can scan it though.
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>>113279869
At first it was speed groups who were hated. Kind of funny that now speed groups are the more prominent ones and the tankobon only quality ones are the smaller amount.
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>>113279714
There are a couple I've been sitting on for awhile. Honestly, I think I'd be a little irked at first if they got taken from under me, but if they can actually do a better job in a more timely manner, more power to them. If it's half-hearted, that'd motivate me to get off my ass and actually do them myself. Win-win either way, in my opinion, but I think most people wouldn't see it that way and would instead throw a big shit about it.
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>>113279714
A year is far more than enough. And yet groups still do it and lash back anyways. On the other hand, an overnight group who does like 3 chapters in a week and then dies is far less preferable than a slow as fuck group who will, one day finish the series honestly.
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>>113279583
No, though about 3/4 of what I scan is faggotry and someone did pay me to buy and scan a Hetlia book for them. But that was, against what I know about the series, just regular old dude on lady action.

There's something about fujos and attention whoring I will just never understand. It's not all of them, and I've worked with some really easy going, friendly groups but god damn if there's not a disproportionally large amount of drama around BL/shoujo scans compared to the rest. Even yuri doesn't escape unscathed.

>>113279578
Yeah, I've noticed they are pretty similar. After a few years respite, English fujos are back to water marking things again. At least it's not as bad as China yet. Yet.
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>>113279714
I translate whatever the fuck I want. Of course if there's another group translating it then I wouldn't hesitate to link their work in mine.
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>>113279916
Just like anime then. Everyone rushing to edit CR scripts but only a few bothers with BDs.
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>>113279938
>>113279578
Does that make Chinese fujos the worst of the worst?
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>>113279916
War, has changed.

>>113279938
Don't remind me.

I approached one TL once over the fact that the project maintainer was using different language scan rather then the native language, so I pointed to her about how her translations felt off, and so I offered to do joint project, since my group was doing the project and we had better quality scans.

Bitch flipped shit at me and started yapping "WELL, HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY TRANSLATION, THOSE WERE DONE BY ME, THE TEAM LEADER" and bullshit

I don't get fujos.
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>>113279908
As I said in recent manga thread, I don't just want to ask someone to spend money and scan it if no one is interested in reviving dead scanlation. I just feel bad for asking to do such thing if I don't even know moon.
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>>113279714
I wish someone would steal my project so that I wouldn't have to work on it anymore.
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>>113267225
So guys, anyone got this script?

I do like 10 pages a day, mostly doujin and h-manga; the script I have is a miss or hit, not actually useful. But this looks pretty neat.
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>>113280055
Jin, is that you
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>>113280125
I bet that's FKMTKrazy.
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>>113279938
Oh man don't remind me of the chinks, they still can't properly use topaz.
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>>113280120

No, it's just some guy reposting his own custom script and refusing to share to get a laugh. Pay no mind.
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>>113279832
no.

>>113279586
That's why you have to be careful. You don't replace 'itadakimasu' with 'rub a dub dub', that's just injecting your own humor into it. I usually do something like 'let's eat!' or 'let's dig in!' because that's something we in a Western culture might say before eating.

You have to take your audience into consideration. Are you translating for an audience who's been through this shit before? Then they won't mind an "itadakimasu". Want it accessible to people who haven't read it? Use a translator's note, or use a Western equivalent.

Also remember that you don't have to say exactly what the Japanese is saying. If someone's complaining about another character and says something like "so childish" in the literal translation, you don't have to leave it sounding so weird. You can do anything from "Grow up!" or "You're not very mature." or "How old are you, five?", as long as it's true to the tone of the character.

A good translator thinks about all this shit instead of just miming what the Japanese has said. If I could punch every translator that wrote "Don't make such a complicated face"...

including me when I first started out, fuck
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>>113280212
If Google TL is good for one thing, though, it at least does close-to-correct romanizing.
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>>113280212
>"Don't make such a complicated face"...
What's wrong with that, I hear it all the time IRL.
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>>113280212
Also, if you're a TL and can't find something in a dictionary, don't fucking make shit up.

Google the word. Literally. You'll find blog posts and other people using it.

You can also use "imi" or "to ha" after a word to search for other explanations, either from JP dictionaries or JP Yahoo Answers.

You can't translate something accurately unless you understand what's being said.
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How can I help? I have free time and a scanner, nothinhg fancy, it's a canon pixma (~$80). Also, do non english groups normally translate from english to other languages?
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>>113280039
>>113280190
You don't understand man. I was digging for doujins last night and the scan quality kills me inside. All the replies from Chinese fujos about how great it was with their little smiling emoticons, it hurts.
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>>113277278
This is why I still use Jasc Paint Shop Pro 9 instead of Corel Paint Shop Pro X or whatever it is now.
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>>113280446
I cannot even begin to explain everything that it's wrong with this.
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>>113280446
>with their little smiling emoticons
Hey, hey now. You're insulting the people of the early internet age and scanlation with their fancy IE5.
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>>113279714
It's not quite that simple, there is a certain implied etiquette regarding how long a title should be idle before being picked up by another group. For the most part, six months is usually certain death.

I've had a currently serialized monthly series picked up by another scanlator while we were still doing it, but we were about 6 months behind and they were able to do it faster, so there really wasn't much point in getting mad. That said, I can't tell you that I wasn't somewhat put out by it, we had been doing the series for a long time and put quite a bit of effort into doing a good job. You guys that haven't actually experienced how much work this stuff is don't understand why people sometimes get highly upset when this stuff happens, but I do. Especially if you're younger and haven't really absorbed that the Internets don't give a shit, you can tend to get emotionally involved. You have to remember that a lot of scanlation folk get into this nonsense because they have a passion for the genre.

And let's be honest, everyone enjoys a good laugh when someone loses it and unleashes some retarded rant on a blog somewhere, right?
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>>113280190
They also still can't properly
>encode their anime
>distribute files efficiently (fuck pan.baidu)
>do proper file compression
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>>113280603
Woxxy should actually start working on series again. It's been a while since I saw their wall of assmad.
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>>113280603
>someone loses
I have that Hadena wall of text printed and pinned to the wall.
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>>113280603
>everyone enjoys a good laugh when someone loses it and unleashes some retarded rant on a blog somewhere, right?
Only if it doesn't directly concern me. Fuke going full retard was funny. Vert being retard wasn't because I wanted my Love Lab.
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>>113280707
I wish I had done that, I bet it would've made shitty days a lot better.
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>>113280742
I'm glad by the time Verty went full retard on [email protected] it ended up making such a small difference it didn't even matter.
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>>113280533
It's not the cute emoticons from little Chinese girls that hurts. It's how happy they are to get scans where watermarks cover the text, which was edited over a picture. You can see the guy's hand in there.

I mean turn of the century, I remember some translation sites that just did the dialogue and assumed you owned the book. Then you lined them up together yourself as you went. That was my first taste of 'scanlations' and I was happy for it. I just, I feel bad for them.
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>>113280603
We got death threats from a few people when we picked up someone else's series.

Those fans had some serious Stockholm syndrome.

>>113280742
>>113280707
Why haven't I seen these? Any archives online?
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>>113279755
>>113279908
Dunno if it helps any, but I found chapter 3 raw, it's a gallery
http://imgbox.com/aatVt6nW
Found it via some spanish manga site.
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>>113280707
Truly inspirational stuffs.
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>>113280830
Thinking of it that way makes me realize how far we've advanced with the whole scanlation and subbing process over the years. Almost makes me feel spoiled, really.
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>>113280900
Anon, thank you very much. It's not two volumes that were available before, but at least something.
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>>113280707
>>113280960
I feel like this suffices for my hadena.jpg
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>>113280894
Check fuke's blog, assuming he hasn't gone full damage control and deleted his post. TL;DR of the event:
>about to quit scanlation because let's face it nobody scanlates forever
>decide to make his parting post a huge rant about how his work got sniped
> blah blah blah I've been known for TLing homonculus' works
> nobody else should do that artist's works, only me etc etc etc
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>Magic wand tool

I fucking hate that shit.
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>>113280960
Holy fuck I haven't seen mad levels this high ever.

>just thought I'd appeal to the best part of you that trickled down your mom's leg when you were unfortunately conceived
>I like gigantic animal penises in my mouth
>have a cupcake
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has anyone picked up the October issue of Nakayoshi? it's been out a few days now.
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>>113281032
>why do you try so hard to live
Well, the sad fact of the matter is, they actually had fans. By sheer miracle, hadena actually had people who had no problems with their subs. I'm guessing its other retards who can't into english as well.
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>>113281138
Maybe you just suck at using it.
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>>113280960
What's sad is that the Hadena of scanlation (Kisu KMS) didn't die like they did.
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>>113280974
Yeah. I'm not saying China is shit, but so much of what they get is held to lower standards in terms of quality. Not scanlations specifically, just sort of everything. It's nice they can be happy for with less, but I wish I could do something.

I want to get good enough at navigating Chinese sites that I can directly dump my raws out there to share with them, with a little note in Chinese saying 'translate away' or something. My chink is too weak right now though. Someday.
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Which are your dropped projects?
http://cl.ly/image/0T03281o130A
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>>113281273
Quick selection tool is better. Maybe I need to set the tolerance though
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>>113281175
Read this one as well then.
http://fuketranslation.fakku.net/2013/06/06/thats-it-im-quitting-im-sick-of-this-bullshit/

I'm surprised he hasn't deleted the blog.
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>>113281433
>>113281049
Oh, turns out it's napata, not homonculus.
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The cleaning that DKThias does for Yumekui Merry is top notch. Too bad we haven't seen a new chapter in months.
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Just want to give my appreciation to you guys. Manga and h-manga are two of my most favorite things. Keep it up!
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>>113281658
Blame Renzokusei for that.
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A scanlation thread doesn't immediately 404, nice.
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So new to cleaning and working on the last xration doujin. Finding it hell to clone the pattern she seems to put in every shaded area. Is there a better way of doing this then cloning or do I just suck at it.
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>>113281835
Content-Aware Fill.
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>>113281664
What about LN translators?
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Enough of this bullshit! Who here is actually translating porn !?
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>>113281835
You are doing God's work, my friend.
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>>113272965
Manually "import" each page into PS, then save as png.
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Is it okay to TL even if one makes occasional mistakes? Putting out TL's that aren't accurate is something I worry about all the time with my level of JPN.
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>>113281921
I don't really read LNs, but there are a ton of anons that do. I'm sure they're big fans.
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>>113267103
what's the fucking point
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>>113282170
It's faster.
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>>113282084
Just be upfront about it and don't get butthurt if people point out mistakes.
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>>113281969
I have the entire thing cleaned and should have the script shortly. there are just some sections I couldn't do personally., the arm on this page for example is just way above what I can do. Also the bubble in the middle was the same pattern cloned. Does that look ok to everyone else or am I just being overly anal?
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>>113282084
I guess having a QC'er would be the best. Someone definitely needs to check your translations because everyone makes mistakes.
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>>113282084
Just do it when you feel ready, no need to rush into it. Yes, you will probably make mistakes, but it's your job to pick up on those mistakes and improve over time. Besides, when it comes to translation, there will probably always be someone bitching about the most asinine things, you should know that just being on /a/ for a day.
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>>113272965
Apparently this model can do TIFF, why not scan to that? Unless there's something about the TIFF format that makes it not worthwhile for scanlation. (aside from probable larger file size)
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>>113281921
they're non-existen
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>>113282311
There's really no advantage in scanning in TIFF, scanning as max settings JPG or as PNG is enough for raws. Especially if they're 600DPI.
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>>113279416
It's a different thing if they're writing on the credits "raws are by us, redrawing is by us" or if they don't mention it at all. The second situation happens most of the time. Besides, they have their own cleaners, so they have the right to mention them, not you.
SInce they're using donations, I understand how annoying it is. COntact them and try to convice them to mention you as the raw provider. From what you described about their translation quality, it looks like they're just middleschoolers, so there might be a shitstorm. Scanlating kids just can't take responsibility, I was like that myself.
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>>113282266
It'll probably be fine once you put your text over it.
If you're really bothered by it, you could try recreating the tone as a fill pattern and replace it all wholesale.
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I wish some of you guys worked on the running Fate/hollow ataraxia manga, manga that will obviously end first compared to the VN translation project.
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>>113281200
Maybe MIssdream has it? Too lazy to check it for you, sorry.
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>>113282505
VN is basically done. Final QC might take a bit but it's more than readable.
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>>113282253
Yup, I give thanks whenever people point out my mistakes.
>>113282269
Now that I recall, my group does have a QC'er. I feel a bit better now.
>>113282274
I'll do my best. I want to get really good with translation so I can tackle on projects.
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>>113281867
Content aware fil does some strange things there. or maybe I'm just not using it correctly. I had no idea it existed though. Thanks. I'm sure it will be useful for something at some point.
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>>113282625
Yeah it's not 100% guaranteed to work, but sometimes it does godly work. It works best in small selections I have found.
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>>113282311
TIFF is weird because you can put multiple images in one file. I scan to bmp and then batch convert as necessary.
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>>113282527
I checked but they didn't have it up. I guess I can ask about it. Thanks for the mild help
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>>113282675
Have you ever considered doing something from the old nakayoshis?
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>>113282599
One piece of advice I'd give you is that if you're not feeling confident enough to translate for a proper series yet, you could always practice with short and easy Pixiv comics of your favorite series. Even now I find something satisfying in spending ten minutes whipping up a quick TL for a silly comic page.
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Last general manga thread was mostly about ripping stuff from ebookjapan. It's a bliss that I can get high quality magazine raw without even needing to clean it, and I already got spoiled by it. But now's the question about resolution. Right now they provide raw with 1600 in height (before it was 1200 or even puny 1000), but are there other sites that provide images in higher resolution? Or we have to wait till ebookjapan increase their resolution again?
I understand that Japanese are small and might not care much about that BUT BIG MAN FROM THE WEST NEED BIG RAWS.
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>>113282311
Because as I said in that post there's no difference between zero compression jpg and tiff.
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Do Japanese fonts have more than just bold and italic for styles of the same font?

It seems to me like they vary in two ways:
1) Lines of characters can be thick, normal, or thin
2) The tips of those lines can be flat, rounded, or tapered.
So with all combinations you could have 9 styles of the same font. Is that how it works? Or am I mistaking entirely different fonts for different styles of the same font?

Pic related.
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>>113282855
There's still a lot of stuff that are 1200px high, or is this a trend with new series?

>>113282925
Hox said something about scanlators caring more about fonts than the original people. They're probably different fonts.
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>>113282925
I think they're different fonts. Not an expert, but considering that, say, Liberation Sans and Liberation Serif are different fonts in English, I'd say the same holds true for the Japanese equivalent of that old brushstroke like style and the more modern minimal simple line style.
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>>113282855
Can you post an example of the 1600 pages?
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>>113282855
I remember when 1200px mag raws were considered the 'good' standard. For me 1600 is perfectly fine for B&W.
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>>113282451
>you could try recreating the tone as a fill pattern and replace it all wholesale.

This is a great tip. Thanks. Different anon here, just never thought to do that before.
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>>113282925
Those are definitely all different fonts.
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>>113283035
It's not 2006 anymore, man.
>>113283034
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>>113282925
There are fonts with serifs and there are gothic fonts just like Latin fonts
And there are fonts that come in a number of different weights.
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>>113274080
>>>/g/
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>>113269882
I-I use the GIMP, Stallman-kun...
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>>113283116
Huh that's pretty damn good. Is there Dengeki Daioh ones in that resolution?
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>>113283128
Late, but I appreciate it.
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>>113283184
Also how are spreads handled? Do they have a line in between or are they perfectly put together?
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>>113283111
>>113283127
>>113282978
>>113282979
Huh, ok.

What are the types of font-variations Japan uses, then? They definitely don't have italics.
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>>113283220

Spreads are perfectly put together. I don't know what magazines have digital versions for sale, and to top it all off the resolution can vary depending on where you buy it from, which is stupid.
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>>113283260
Damn, I'd buy Dioh raws with that quality and resolution among other things.
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>>113283247
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asian_gothic_typeface
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_%28typefaces%29
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>>113283293

I'm not very good at finding ebook sources. I check ebookjapan and Amazon JP, but that's about it unless it's a web manga (Joshi Kausei is 2100px png, which is nice).
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>>113283368
>Joshi Kausei is 2100px png, which is nic
I've seen those, they're amazing raws.
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>>113283116
>2006 was 8 years ago

I'm thinking more like 2009-10 this was still the case for Share raws and the like.

Since my kanji-fu is weak, my standard is 'can I read the furigana?' 1200 is kind of the lower limit there, at 1600 it's always good unless it's upscaled.
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>>113283220
it is matched perfectly in most case. some kadokawa/bookwalker stuff even give resolution to 2000 high,thought it only apply to recent stuff.
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>>113283293
http://www.ebookjapan.jp/ebj/book/60290691.html
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>>113283403
did Daiz ever finish that Comicwalker ripper?
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>>113283368
The person doing it is dropping it and now there's only CR 75% jpeg to look forward to. Which are lower res and well.
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>>113283395

I hope it catches on. Web Action seems to be doing a good job, Haruki_Doranko3 is even 3000px png.
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>>113283427

I feel stupid, I tried searching ?????????? and that didn't come up.

I wish there were an archive of ebook rips somewhere, or even just some rich guy who buys and rips all of the digital releases.
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The current tread seems to be that native web manga will usually have a higher res, while ebooks will be around 1600px.
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>>113283546
Search without ??, it doesn't work with it for some reason.
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>>113283546
Reposting:

At least from what I can tell, the store seems to have the books out in the open... except with their 'drm'. Very, very, very difficult, but it wouldn't actually be impossible to find and decrypt all their books by bruteforcing. I can't fathom why they would want to serve them like that. Someone crazy enough could surely do it.

If anyone has a lot of free time and knowledge of jigsaw solving algorithms, I'm sure you could get everything free.
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>>113283357
Ah. So I guess the square/round/tapered line endings kind of correspond to square sans, round sans, and ming.

But it does look like they have more variations than Latin fonts.
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>>113283465

>Haruki_Doranko3

Example. Dead scanlation though, Illuminati did a few chapters.
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>>113283546
>just some rich guy who buys and rips all of the digital releases
I'm not even remotely rich, but I'm afraid that if I'll start buying and uploading rips some chink faggot will reupload it to his raws site and start gaining money from filesharings.
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Speaking of web manga, I've never looked into it that much. What sites provide nice raws and can be ripped easily?
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>>113283455

Yeah, Crunchy jewing a free web manga is bullshit. It looks easy to edit and has virtually no text aside from a few sfx, maybe some anon will offer to edit it anyway. Fuck CR.
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>>113283657
Unfortunately there aren't all that many Japanese computer fonts out there, due to a combination of the difficulty/amount of work being much higher than with a Latin font and the fact that Japanese people don't care. Everyone loves that MSP Gothic.

There is a fairly good amount of variation in written Japanese, though.
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>>113272901
It's not so bad. At least not typesetting. I don't know about cleaning.

And you can write plugins in glorious scheme instead of javashit.
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>>113283991
Typesetting on GIMP is actually considered a crime in scanlation. Or at least it was.
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>>113283991
That's like literally asking people not to write anything.
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http://www.goldfishkingdom.client.jp/01.html

What the fuck is this even about?
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>>113283932
I guess it makes sense that they'd be bigger on making variations of the same font rather than whole new fonts, what with the gorillion characters.
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>>113283433
Nope. There's a firefox extension floating around. There's something in ruby on github. But someone else couldn't get that working.
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Do people still get pissed if people switch PNG to JPG?
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>>113284041
I realize there's a lot of webdev casuals out there. Fortunately you can use Python too, which is also better than js.
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>>113284152
Yes.
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>>113284152
I get pissed when I have to use shitty JPG raws that come out twice in size if I want to save finished page in PNG.
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>>113284205
What?
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>>113277123
Still here? Got any useful scripts?
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>>113284205
In the final product is there even a quality difference? I usually need to zoom in really far to start seeing any.
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>>113284274
Artifacts add up as you save jpg each time and quality drops exponentially.
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I need an additional cleaner for YKK's rescanlation. If anyone wants to sign up, that'd be cool.
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>>113284091
Well judging from the first chapter, seems like it's about a girl who likes fish.
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>>113280446
Okay, I take it back. This one is more impressive. I don't even understand how you do that to screen tones.
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>>113284413
Are you sure that's not how the screen tones were from the start? There's some weird screentones out there for mangaka to use that you normally only come up once in a hundred titles.
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>>113284274
Quality difference is a difficult topic. Since I'm not just a reader anymore I see the bullshit right away. But would a regular reader notice anything? I have no fucking idea, frankly, that's why I try to not reduce amount of color used, even if it bloat the file.
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>>113284413

Looks like literal copy-and-paste a small section. Look at the hand on the top left.
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>>113279272
>I don't even mind that. It's when shit SECRET CLUB mentality groups use my scans and then hide the result under passwords and join only groups that I become annoyed. Fuck man, I don't even ask to be credited just share them. That's the entire point of why I scanned them, so people can enjoy it.
>The whole 'you must felate us thiiiis much to be allowed to read the things we don't even have copyright on' attitude is shit.
RIP Guyver scanlations
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>>113284160
Somewhat off-topic but the problem with the prevalence of java is less to do with webdev being casuals but more on most businesses being casuals.
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>>113284402
But does she like it as much as Suzaku is pleased?
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>>113284122
>There's something in ruby on github. But someone else couldn't get that working.
I could try taking a stab at getting it to work, though no promises of course
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>>113284402
Did someone say fish?
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>>113284459
Yeah. If you look in the upper right, the dark area bleeding through from the previous page gets that bizarre banding, as does everything else in the entire book that isn't pure black or pure white. It's a very determined kind of failure, I'm in awe.

Preview pages from the artist look completely normal.

>>113284476
It's everything. Everything has that pattern for all the pages. I don't even know how you fuck up that badly. The Chinese comments completely ignore it too. No 'hey man, why is the nigger a zebra?' or anything. Looking at Chinese scans just makes me thankful for English scans in general.
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>>113284650
Not Java, Javascript.

Not even sure which one's worse.
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>>113284728
Images from Comic Walker are openly available if you use Android app, it just stores them, but also encrypts. I've sent a sample chapter to ripper anon to crack, but he said that he won't have much time to work on it this month.
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>v10 ever?
Haha, that's what I want to know.

waterbasedlenses guy, scanner forgot about it apparently

AB, pls
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>>113284736
fish?
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>>113284827

The English scanlation community is spoiled, man. The standards we take for granted are lacking in even professional digital manga settings.

The official ebook English release for "I Am An Alien, and I Have a Question" (by ABe) is godawful. MS-paint tier. Be thankful.

Now if only the French scanlation scene were as active. So many Franco-Belgian comics that aren't being scanlated into English, shit sucks.
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Why is it so hard to find a reliable translator that takes commissions at reasonable rates? I've only found one so far that I've used.
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>>113284869
I was also able to sniff out the images on my computer through Fiddler a while back. Though had no idea this ruby gem existed at the time, didn't really look much however.
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>>113282451
How would you go about doing that? I really have no idea. And thanks for the response.
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>>113284897
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>>113284875
Redoing something without a deadline is hard, right? Can't help but only procrastinate.
I hope he'll remember about it. Not that I'm in a rush, but I kinda promised to redo it.
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>>113284465
>But would a regular reader notice anything?
I used jpg for a while since the original raws were pretty good quality jpgs. Dumped like 15 chapters before even one anon complained. That complaint was enough to get me to switch though
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>>113284869
Daiz and some anon figured out the "encryption" already, it's some XOR bullshit or something to keep off casuals. What would be cool is a bulk ripper like OMD.
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http://exhentai.org/g/723205/9a176591cf/

Anybody mind translating this?
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>>113285092
I'm kind of Volume 9-10 guy, not seeing much of the 10 though. I'll remind him again though. Kind of funny how I can just drop a name and the one person it's meant for is there to get it. Too bad the other person is asleep and won't get that other reference
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>>113285090
This made me laugh more than expected.
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>>113285175

This is a scanlation thread after all.
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>>113285144

Wow. Those tags are horrible. Not a chance in hell.
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>>113284827
There are some good chinese scanner if you do notice. Most of them release nice tankoubon with higher quality compare to public raw.

That remind that i should try to clean new works from Young Magazine the 3rd.
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Translators, what do you guys do with elongated words?
Like
>onii-chan~
Do you just use a tilde or do you change it to
>onii-chaaaan

Also, is that more common in Japanese than in English? If I put every single elongation into the scanlation it starts looking awkward.
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>>113285263

There are Chinese Keyman scans?
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>>113285263

>Young Magazine the 3rd

I haven't looked at any of the new serializations. Such as?
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>>113285175
>>113285206
To be fair, we don't get a lot of manga threads here, so I can easily imagine the same people gathering in them all the time.
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How much margin do you guys like on your bubbles?

Also, do you vary the text size a lot to use up the space in bigger bubbles, or do you try to keep the text size more consistent?
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>>113285285
I generally try to elongate word itself, typesetting permitted. But if it looks ugly and I can't make it work, I might not even elongate the word at all. That's probably shitty practice from most translators' point of view, but it's kinda different when you're working solo.
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>>113285397
Sometimes I vaguely pretend being three or four different people. It's pretty sad.
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>>113285588

Everyone samefags from time to time.
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>>113285206
Sido v11 color pages when?
>someday....
>remind me tomorrow morning
>I'll do it if I remember and care enough

There you go
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>>113285552
Not as much as you did. Nigga, that's a font size for ants. Also,
>WildWords
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>>113285679
>Opinions
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So hey, typesetters, how would you typeset this page?

>inb4 scans for ants
It's a web raw firstly, and it's the only size available anywhere since it's straight from the pixiv of the author
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>>113285679
Firs it was ComicSans, then now WildWords. What's next, AstroCity?
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>>113285727
>pigdisgusting G and probably other letters as well, but mostly G
I want you guys use other fonts too. Please.
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>>113285297
Yeah,someone
started scanning them.

>>113285370
Some big serialization are:

-Me and the Devil Blues by Akira Hiramoto,who now well know for Kangoku Gakuen.

-Hokusai to Meshi Saeareba by SUZUKI Sanami,known of BRS manga.

-Furansu Nikki by Yasu with OOSHIMIZU Sachi as story,which is basicly SOL on paris.
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My favorite group? No one. Why? Lets see.

Red Hawk
>owned by mangareader.
>Uses that same font all the fucking time.
>Picks up the popular ones or by popular authors.
Japanzai
>Slow as shit
Village Idiot
>The light novel adaptation group
>Dragon Age and Comic Alive are not the only magazines you know?
Simple Scans
>look at Japanzai
Utopia
>Donde estas?
>"Boohoo someone stole our project because we're slow!"
Others
>speedscans, chinese translation shit (yeah viscoun), uses crappy raws.
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>>113285786
I think the G looks fine.

Which font do you prefer?
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>>113285756
Firstly uprez.

Secondly, if you need to go outside the bubbles to avoid tiny font sizes or stupid amounts of hyphenation, I think it's ok. Just outline the text.
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>>113284925
So it's the absolute opposite of the Chinese-speaking side, huh? Shit scanlations but generally top tier official releases. Especially Taiwanese ones since Kadokawa actually had their own branch there.
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>>113284982
I'm guessing reliable translators are probably off doing non-anime stuffs where I presume the pay is better.
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>>113285792

Only one I don't recognize is Ooshimizu Sachi. I hope someone decides to translate those since they already have an editor, it seems.
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>>113285898
>Uprez
>Outside the bubble

It didn't work as well as you would think, even going so far as to make the bubble bigger. It's funny since I know the guy who did the shit typesetting you see on any other version and I give him shit for it every day.
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>>113285823
Depends on the manga I'm doing, but definitely not WW and Anime Ace.
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>>113285980
>>113285854
Oh wait, my mistake.
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>>113285263
Yeah, Chinese scanners are generally pretty good, especially those doing tank scans. It's the other people involved that somehow mangled it.
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Translating 12 series at a steady pace, but lately I've been feeling spent. Is Scanon here?
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>>113286014
>Is_Reiroukan_still_alive
Can confirm, yes, it's still alive. Pages were translated today, script should be out tomorrow and then typesetting unless someone forgot to clean the pages. No idea, can't be arsed to open dropbox.
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>>113285397
Yeah, pretty much this. It's a lot better since if I start a thread specifically for one series, chances are it'll die off after 10+ replies. At least with a manga thread, I get to just talk about other series at the same time.

On the bright side, since it's smaller, manga threads also tend to have less shitposting.
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>>113266415
Waiting for TSer for Swagamoto so I can QC
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>>113285961
That rez is good enough.

I'll let one or two words go outside the bubble, but yeah, if you've got entire long sentences going over it'll probably look worse. I haven't needed to increased the bubble size myself, but that seems like the best solution.

I think you can increase the font size in the first few panels, you've got some margin and it's a bit hard to read. Especially the white italics.
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Any idea if the Chinese scene has decent scans for older (80's) series, or is that just for recent tanks? Some JP scans of older series suck, and the books are out of print, so you have to go through a proxy which adds up quickly.
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Gotta ask this as well,does anyone ever use this tool to help with speed typesetting?
http://illuminati-manga.com/illiteracy/typesetterer/?p=About
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>>113286067
you a hardcore nigga

I'm just typesetting one series, and at first I could do 60+ pages a week, but I'm definitely losing energy.
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>>113285823
The one about red hawk is true. I mean the purpose of scanlation is for people who cant read it. now they teamed up with chinese pirates like mangafox. They're simply pirating works
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>>113286176
I used it, but then it stopped working. Suprisingly, after I stopped using it my speed increased.
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>>113286175
Japanese raws? I quite doubt it because as far as I'm aware, when it comes to older stuffs that aren't too obscure, there would already be official releases in chinese so they just scan that instead.

You can try your luck though.
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>>113285823
Go fuck yoursellf.
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>>113285823
>Village Idiot
>LN adaptation group
I'm working on four series with VI, and one of their admins loves them to death. Can't get enough of ecchi harems. The rest of the group like to rib him about it.

>No favorite group
Why not Habanero?
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Guys, I have a question. So is it quantity > quality or quality > quantity?
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>>113286322

>>113277854

/a/ is love
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>>113286322
Why they dropped Barakamon again?
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>>113286175
May be you can try manhuabudang and moeshare for those series. They had people scanned an old series in high res.
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>>113285823
>Village Idiot
Your justification isn't really fair. If that's what their members like and if the quality isn't bad, then that is fine.

Others like Japanzai though, yeah, I agree. I'll never understand the point of picking up 20+ new series, translate only the first 2 chapters, then proceed to drop like 18 of them.
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>>113283668

>3000px png

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>>113286385
I don't quite understand your question. What quantity/quality are we talking about?

>>113286390
Good question. I can go ask them now, half a minute.
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>>113286415

Thanks a lot. Sorry for the spoonfeeding request.
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>>113286070
Nice. I presume you guys got your own raws. I actually wanted to work on that series ages ago but could only find the Japanese raws for volume 1, so I ended up just reading the chinese scans instead.
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I've always meant to ask this question:

For people who find it difficult to multi-task, how do you steer yourself away from /a/ and stay focused on your work?
I think most of us can agree that this place is too addicting for our own good. I often get distracted by a few threads and end up wasting a good two hours. Lately I've taken to visiting shitposting threads and rolling for dubs, which sometimes (but not always) earns me a 1-day ban to get back on scanning business.
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>>113277573
We have loads.
A lot of Anons to scan/translate for their respective favourite shows.

I am surprised no one has mentioned Hox.
There were those Ika guys who translated and worked hard to not let the series die
Those that work on Watamote at first
Miyabro doing Hidamari Sketch, etc we have plenty of scans on /a/, shame /rs/ is dead.
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>>113286556
>For people who find it difficult to multi-task, how do you steer yourself away from /a/ and stay focused on your work?

I don't. I made this thread instead of just working on it. I did get a couple of useful tips out of it at least which was my original intention. But then I watched a couple episodes of Doremi while continuing to brose /a/ and lurking in IRC. Now I'm about ready to pass out and I've managed to finish a grand total of 5 pages today, and only because none of them needed any redrawing.

I'm okay with it though. Doremi is very important to me. Anyway, it's good to sleep on things when you're learning new skills. I'll probably have more drive tomorrow.
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>>113286654
>There were those Ika guys

Still are, kinda. Procrastinating like all fuck. Not even sure if the next chapter is translated. I wouldn't mind a few other anons picking it up.
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>>113286067
>>113286322
How come you don't post with a trip anymore?
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>>113286654
>>113286713
>Ika
Are you talking about Ika Musume? How many people were working on that anyway?
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>>113286661
>scanlators on /a/.jpg
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>>113286749

Varies. Right now there are 3 people or so working on it whenever they feel like it.
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>>113286836
>I already all this stuff
>click
>click
>click
Sounds realistic.
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>>113286661
Try to do something else beside on front of the pc,something like arranging your stuff on the table.
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>>113286723
I still do sometimes, but it's not worth it. I'll never be Hox or js06 or Boon.
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>>113286756
I have Amazon/Kobo rips of that. Need to eventually clean it up a bit and post it. Somehow every alternate page was 40% jpeg on one volume. WHY. At least the work is simply enough that I could probably level the fuck out of it and no one could tell the difference.
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>>113286713
There's one chapter that's translated, but the main translator hasn't posted anything else in ages.

Then after a draft is finally uploaded, you have to wait another age for the typesetters to give a fuck.
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>>113287003
What resolution Amazon provides? Shittty one?
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>>113287034

Maybe the Nichijou anons could pick it up. They share a fanbase, from what I've seen.
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>>113287034
You can try contacting Elemhunter again.
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>>113286920
js06's speed always amazes me. I really wonder if he does translation as a professional or something.
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>>113287119

That's not the issue, it's the staff working on it once in a blue moon.
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>>113287073
Who doesn't like Ika?
But yes, somebody should bug them about it.

I-I mean, if they want to

>>113287119
What does he do?
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>>113287206

From what I've heard he basically has to remind them that Ika Musume is a thing that they volunteered to work on. Previously he posted on /a/ and scraped together anon scanlations to keep it alive.
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>>113287180
If you're talking about "the /a/ team", you don't have to rely on them exclusively. No one owns scanlations. If they're being too slow, they only have themselves to blame when other people pick up their project(s).

>>113287206
He dumps partly scanned/abandoned manga on here and asks for volunteers to pick it up, which happens often. He has revived quite a few series already, it's very nice. He's also a pseudo-leader of Habanero Scans.
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>>113287299

>don't have to rely on them exclusively

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I hope someone else is interested enough to work on Ika instead.
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>>113279714
3-6 months: probably courtesy to ask and offer to help. can go either way
6+ months: up for grabs. anyone who puts up a fuss is a dick
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>>113287299
>No one owns scanlations. If they're being too slow, they only have themselves to blame when other people pick up their project(s).

I remember the uproar over Love Lab, shit was hilarious.
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>>113287319
As I see it, 4koma in general is just cursed to be dropped or not picked up again.
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>>113287380
Do tell
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Give me a manga to translate.
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>>113286427
For example, Narutu. Mangapanda and other shit releases it first then Mangastream. People read the crappy ones. Why bother reading MS's ver?
Why do scan groups hate speedscans groups?
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I should be working on some Kawaisou chapters, but to busy playing FF14.
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>>113287425
That one that you really don't like.
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Someone give a pastebin with raws in them.
Guy in that team give out e-mail so people can e-mail you done scripts.
Make you find reliable TLC.
I will come back in a bit (got to go) I'll translate what I can.
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>>113287425
Outlaw Star.
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>>113287425
Golgo 13
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>>113287448

I forgot that someone's trying to scanlate that again.
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>>113287432
I really wanted to like FF14 after how I loved FF11, something about it was just so boring though.
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>>113287447

>give raws
>I'll translate what I can

>>113233018
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>>113287426

Only egomaniacs that are trying to get the jew money worry about speedscans. I'd rather focus on delivering a quality scanlation. Speedscans are for reading, nice scanlations are for archiving and sharing with further readers.
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>>113287447
Gotcha.
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=80862

https://mega.co.nz/#!mtBU0bTD!UW2cGBKVf2Yjh5-Wh0iEUYAzFAnxOVx9aeMClswmIsM

Hope you isn't too full on the moment. We allways lack translater.