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I don't get it, am I supposed to feel empathy for mankind's

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I don't get it, am I supposed to feel empathy for mankind's predator or something?
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>>112669069
For those who are not predators, actually.

Which excludes Touka.
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Remove the ghoul
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>>112669069
You're not supposed to feel any form of sympathy for anyone in this series. Everyone is evil. Everyone. If they die or get hurt, they had it coming.
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>>112669537
That applies to everything.
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>>112669358
That's, like, less than a tenth of all ghouls, isn't it?
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>>112669506
>"Have feelings, too."
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>>112669582
Oh yeah, it kinda does
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I just want Tsukishima back
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>>112669746
I don't know. They should make a census with questions like "are you hunting humans?" or something like that.
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Feel free to call me a hippy or whatever but simply by buying food from a super market and wearing clothes bought in stores you indirectly have blood on your hands. That is to say that humans are as cruel as monsters.
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I'm quite impressed with how watchable Tokyo Ghoul manages to be. I expected and got an edgefest, but it's handled quite well.
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>>112670743
You're right, things have to die so we can live.
Just like humans have to die so ghouls can live.
That doesn't mean you can't wish death and suffering upon your hunter, though.
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>>112670763
It's the worst adaptation compared to the source material i have seen in my life.
>>112669069
>ghouls have feelings too
I like how the author isn't even trying to hide that he can't think of one singe reason why we should sympathize with them.
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>>112671080
I haven't read and don't care about the source material, so that doesn't bother me at all.
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>>112671144
Animeonlyfags everyone
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>>112671144
It should since you're getting an inferior product that misses out on details
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>>112671185
Why should I care about the source matieral? I'm only watching it for one specific seiyuu, anyway. The decent action and direction is just a bonus.
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>>112671239
>I'm only watching it for one specific seiyuu, anyway.
What the hell, Anon.
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>>112671239
> I'm only watching it for one specific seiyuu
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Will it get good again?
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>>112671080
>It's the worst adaptation compared to the source material i have seen in my life.
You should read more source material. Shit like Koihime and Mai Otome literally removed the protagonists and plot for their adaptions.
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>>112671298
>>112671269
Why else would I pick it up?
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>>112671376
>again
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>>112671445
For the never before seen and well-executed plot and the compelling and well developed characters?
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>>112671440
Buy Mai Otome wasn't an adaptation of the manga. Like a lot of media mix franchises with original anime, the manga started a bit before the broadcast and did its own thing.
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>>112671445
For no other reason, you shouldn't have picked this up to begin with.
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>>112671522
BA DUM TSS
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>>112669069
Not all of them kill humans.
They're making an effort to fit into society.
Hell, the fact that you can transplant organs from one to the other means they're pretty much our cousins or evolutionary off shoots.
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>>112671610
#NotAllGhouls
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>>112671610
>they're pretty much our cousins or evolutionary off shoots
Or the product of a genetic experiment.
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>>112669069
Yeah you must have pity on them and get yourself eaten by ghouls because they are have feelings too.

Man, this show is retarded. Claymore to much better this series. Bad guys are monsters and nothing more.
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>>112671610
>They're making an effort to fit into society.
Yeah, the whooping ~5 of them.
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the best character is kill
dropped with the speed of gravity
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Anyone have that page where Yoshimura was really badass. The one where he was talking about how "Living is constantly sinning"
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>>112671989
Amon is pretty cool too.
Hopefully he won't fuck around as much as the old man and actually get the job done.
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>>112672006
Because I like the page.
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>>112672061
I love that page. Thank you, Anon!
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>>112671239
Would you do us a favor and get out?
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>>112672187
Not him, but HanaKana really carries the show.
Good thing next episode is a Rize episode
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>>112672061
this should be definition of this series: both sides are evil, deal wit it!
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>>112672279
>One line every two episodes
>Carries the show
You must find this anime really, really boring.
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>>112672336
>want to protect people from sadistic flesh eating monsters and get revenge for losing loved ones
>evil
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>>112671821
But this shit was boring. I tried reading the manga and watching the anime. Both boring AF
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>>112672380
I know you're shitposting but the humans do similar things you faggot.
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>>112672336
But humans have Jesus, ghouls are not.
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>>112672411
>shitposting
You're a funny guy, anon.
>humans do similar things
And guess what happens to them unless they're protected or go into hiding, both of which, surprise surprise, ghouls do as well?
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>>112672279
next episode is the start of the Aogiri Arc i hope
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>>112672497
So you do agree that humans and ghouls do similar things. At least you're not retarded.
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>>112672362
I don't think you know how long I've been waiting for her side story. And soon tulpa Rize after torture.
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>>112672564
>incorrectly using the tulpa buzzword
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>>112672400
You just don't like, cute celts girls.
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>>112672380
don't forget that in the real world your dear people are the most cruel, unreasonable, environment destroying, sadistic things on this planet, of course me to
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>>112672555
I give my stance on this on literally every Tokyo ghoul thread. Ghouls NEED to eat humans to survive. That means they are directly a threat to human race. It doesn't help that most of them like to hunt even with other options available, and that you have binge eaters and sadists in spades. The most logical choice is extermination. I'm not saying it's right or even justified, it just is. It would take too much time and effort to try and build coexistence, and honestly the sheep could never fully adapt to living with the wolves.
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>>112672447
>Not knowing about ghoul Jesus who ate human Jesus to forgive all ghoul sins.
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>>112672698
There are so many humans that ghouls could live comfortably solely off naturally dead humans.
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I want to read the source material, but I genuinely like this anime, and I don't want it to be ruined by manga spoilers. once this series is over, will I need to read the manga from the beginning; what major things have been left from the anime? or does it have more to do with pacing than things being left out?
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>>112672658

That's why you must pity flesh eater monster. Fuck them humans the hunters too.
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>>112672658
Oh my god you stupid fucking ''humans are evil too!'' retards, you can't even see how fucking stupid and retarded that statement is! HOW MANY FUCKING EVIL HUMANS DO YOU PERSONALLY KNOW? HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THE STREET YOU SAW IN YOUR LIFE WOULD YOU CLASSIFY AS MONSTERS? Because a VERY large majority of ghouls are evil, no denying it. It's not he same at all.
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>>112672698
>I'm not saying it's right or even justified, it just is

That's the point.

This isn't like Shiki where the Shiki were terrible assholes and the humans were almost entirely right. Ghouls have to eat humans to survive and that's obviously a threat to humanity. Both have a right to survival so acting like one side is evil or just is stupid.
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>>112672706
That looks a lot more like a zombie than a ghoul.
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>>112672764
Read from the beginning. There's been a lot cut and reordered.
There will be manga spoilers in this thread, if you're worried about that.
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>>112672763
No one would consent helping their predator stay healthy and besides, most ghouls enjoy hunting humans.
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>>112672769
One series where protagonist is on "bad side" and people starts to get crazy.

I don't even see anything superior in humanity anyways, we're just animals with high intelligence (well, internet is making me doubt that), that's all.
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>>112672763
That's like saying humans could life comfortably off roadkills and animals that die of old age, if the only thing we could eat was meant. There would always be those that want ''the taste'' or ''thrill of the hunt''. If i was responsible for a group of people, i sure as hell wouldn't sit idly as periodic tragedies occur.
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>>112672706
Ghouls Jesus died then BASED SAINT GEORGE send him to purgatory.
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How do disease-ridden corpses affect ghouls? Wouldn't they catch that disease as well?
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How did humans in the past stop ghouls? Most of them seem to be basically invincible unless you have the special kakuho made weapons.

Before the modern days did they just do whatever they wanted?
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>>112672764
The main problem is they re-arrange stuff for no reason and cut out some details like Kaneki being more calculating and hesitant when following Tsukiyama. The animation during the fights are really the biggest highlights though.
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>>112669069
>taking humanities side

what have humans ever done, besides fuck up the earth?
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>>112672814
you're funny.
Name one animal which destroyed so much of natural enlivenment as people.
Name another animal that killed millions of it's kind.
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>>112672837
What i hate about this manga is that it want you to sympathize with ghouls SO FUCKING BAD, there is so much forced drama and it's so obvious they tried extra hard to paint Mado as a monster. The funny thing is, i don't thing i ever felt so connected to a fictional character in my life, so they fucked that up. I hate hypocrisy, and the writing and premise in this show is so bad, the ghouls are borderline saying :''we eat humans and orphan children and shit, but we have feelings too so you are evil for hunting us waah" SUCK IT UP. If you're gonna kill somebody, be prepared for his loved ones to rain down motherfucking furious vengeance on your ass, if i was an investigator shit like that would just piss me off even more.
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>>112672998
Maybe the Church had super-special weapons too back then.
Or maybe ghouls only appeared recently.
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>>112673050
If you dislike humanity so much, why not kill yourself? After all, you are part of it.
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>>112672998
People like Ciel and Kotomine were a thing
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>>112673080
Mado is a monster. He did the same thing that the Ghouls did in killing a little girl's parents.
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>>112673050
A lot of more, than others species.
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>>112672814
>HOW MANY FUCKING EVIL HUMANS DO YOU PERSONALLY KNOW?
all of them

negligence is the same as compliance
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>>112673050
I'm taking my own side, not humanity's.
I don't even blame ghouls for hunting down humans, they don't have the choice.
But if they suffer or die, then I'll be happy if anything.
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You are normally born as Ghoul?
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>>112673050
>>112673075
Fuck off you tree hugging hippie faggots.
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>>112672619
A hallucination that interacts with you. What other way to call it. An imaginary friend?
Tulpa is good enough
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>>112673137
>A lot of more, than others species.
none of those things have helped out the world
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>>112673075
And you're retarded.
Ghouls are just the same as humans, except with a hunger for human flesh and a much bigger average ego and feeling of superiority. If they were in charge they would make Hitler look like Jesus. You're putting them in the same boat as Kars from Jojo, who loved every single living thing except humans. Don't do that shit. If you're too retarded too figure it out, ghouls are literally humans worse then humans.
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>>112673050
What has any specie ever done, besides preserving a status quo?
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>>112672061
this page explains all the arguing above me, ghouls are bad for killing innocent people. and humans are bad for doing everything that they do now.
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>>112673181
trees are awesome, they look great, put out lots of oxygen, and make great furniture

I wish we could plow cities to put up more forests
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>>112671610

okay that's cool and all but

they eat and kill people
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>>112673135
His grief turned him into a monster, but he was still a good man, as seen how he interacted with his colleagues and daughter.
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>>112673153
Praise the God, and asking him for cure against this damnation.
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>>112673214
>What has any specie ever done, besides preserving a status quo?
they have lived their lives without fucking up the environment

human accomplishment is only impressive to humans, and only matters to humans
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>>112673282
Hitler also interacted well with his colleagues. Doesn't meant he's a good man.
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>Not always taking humanity's side and destroying monsters, whether they resemble humans or not

Goddamned idiots, will you ever learn? Whether they look like humans or have emotions is completely irrelevant: They are predisposed to eat your kind, and should not be shown any sort of sympathy whatsoever.
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>>112673252
there's 7 billion humans

we can spare a couple
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>>112673312
>human accomplishment is only impressive to humans, and only matters to humans
You mean like the accomplishments of ever specie ever?
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>>112673080
I'm going to assume you haven't read most of the manga. Mado is only made out to be the bad guy for the short time he is around because he is cruel in his hatred for ghouls
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For much of the rest of the manga he is humanized and made out to be a hero and a good man. We learn more about his past, how Amon respects him and his fucking daughter becomes a main character. Hell, there are even a ton of omakes with him as a single dad taking care of his daughter.
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>>112673135
Nope, he's a bad guy, and at the begging i hated him a lot. not for killing ghouls, but for his attitude (Ghuls are evil. Ghouls don't have human feelings).
But later, understood that he was just little gear in spiral of hatred and revenege.
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>>112673348
I volunteer you
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>>112673348
You just exterminating yourself. Go in the human farm or something.
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>>112673409
you first
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I view it as everyone has a right to fight for survival, the ghouls and the humans.

So both sides are justified. They both do horrible shit, so just support whichever side you like more.

Undoubtedly I would be calling for the genocide of ghouls if they existed unless I was one.
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>>112673348
>Let's ditch a few of our own to sustain the people who want the death of us all
Tell us Anon, what events in your life have brought you to this point of self-hatred?
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Somehow I feel most of the people in this thread are either Chinese or Mexican.
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>>112673437
you're a retard

cows aren't extinct

chickens aren't extinct

they have actually raised their survival rate by being food for humans
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>>112673312
>human accomplishment is only impressive to humans, and only matters to humans

You are genuinely the shittiest, most unworthy sort of human being, and I have no words that can describe my absolute and utter disgust with you.

If you despise humans so much, do us all a favor and please die.
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>>112673448
Wouldn't you want to be a ghoul if you had the chance to be one?
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>>112673465
ghouls don't what to kill humans, just like we don't want to kill cows
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>>112673362
I read the manga and all of those. I know everything about Mado. I'm talking about how in the beginning they try to force you to sympathize with Ghouls and Mado was supposed to be the scapegoat. I don't know if the author always invisioned him like that or if that happened because of popularity that Mado got so much development.
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Why don't we make them wear an armband or something?

That way they can get free meals at the prison made out of bad prisoners and bad ghouls.
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>>112670763
Tokyo Ghoul anime is horrid and you should feel bad for watching that shit.
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>>112673500
why would I do that?

I only care about myself

the whole point of the show is people can only see things through the prism of their species
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>>112673494
They are lost their instincts, and they are can't survive in the wild nature. This is a fucked up living forms.
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>>112673494
>become cattle, you'l live better
Meruem, is that you?
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Seeing Touka's distressed face and flailing legs was hot.
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>>112671239
>fags like this actually exist
Holy fucking christ
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>>112673590
all
that
edge
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>>112673528
Hell ya, being a creature built to kill things would make life exciting as fuck.

Undoubtedly it wouldn't be a good long term decision, but most people in fiction would have shitty lives if it was realistic.

It would be exciting, to say the least.
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>>112673537
>ghouls don't what to kill humans
Did you miss the part where humans are getting slaughtered as a show?
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>>112673607
dogs and cats have it made
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>>112673537
go look at Rize's face and Yomari's when they eat and torture people then come back and say what you said. not all of them do but most simply see us as cattle.
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>>112673656
People normally don't eat dogs and cats you know.
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>>112673646
killing all the humans would kill themselves, since they can't eat anything else
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>>112673621
Touka's angry voice is even better. Amamiya Sora sounds sexy as fuck.
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>>112671080
>It's the worst adaptation compared to the source material i have seen in my life.


>he never watched brynhildr

you're such a lucky man
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>>112673477
I thought I was the only one who felt that way
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>>112673712
Except Korea
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>>112673624
Yes, there are people who watch a show just because their favorite seiyuu is in it. Why do some people find this mind-boggling? It's an uncommon occurrence but it still happens.
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>>112673712
>2014
>not knowing other countries don't give a fuck and eat cats and dogs
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>>112673189
I have to admit that there is logic in your way of thinking.

But if protagonists would be doves and Ghould would be "monsters to kill" then this series wouldn't be even as half interesting
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>>112673621
>that entire monologue
Good God, am i supposed to sympathize here? Cause i'm popping a fucking vein instead.
>hunts and eats humans
>ghoul gets kills
>''Waah, i wan't vengeance!''
>gets rekt
>''I-It's not my fault, y-you're the monster here!''
Holy shit.
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>>112673477
Spic and Rizefag reporting in.
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>>112673672
they like eating humans

if they killed all the humans, then they wouldn't have anything left to eat

use your brian, moran
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>>112673539
Its pretty obvious he was always planned that way considering Amon's huge respect for the guy, his daughter hasbecome a huge part of the plot and some of those omakes would have been out before popularity would have done much.

Thats why he is the perfect first human "bad guy." He has a terrible cruelty that makes him disgusting but that is only one part of him. Consider the entire manga is literally about ghouls who are people who are disgusting in some way it fits perfectly.
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>>112673590
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>>112673720
They can eat other ghouls.
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>>112671239
>>112671144
>>112673746
>Mods used to ban for shitty posts like this
What happened?
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>>112673348
more would die from hunger, diseases, wars etc. than would be killed by ghouls
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>>112673765
>guts
>human
That's rich
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>>112673656
Still cats and dogs are not fucked up their instincts like cattle.
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>>112673720
Then the word you're looking for is "exterminate", not kill.
They enjoy killing humans, but they don't want to run out of food which is obvious.
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>>112673827
They don't exist to wipe your ass
Oh wait
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>>112670564
well suicides could not feed them all.
>>112669069
yes . they are cute girls among them so you should pity them.
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>>112673735
> brynhildr
I dropped that shit faster then Mado dropped Hinami's mom. Haven't seen the source material, though.
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>>112673773
>brian
>moran
i can't
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>>112673827
Please do point out what violation was made in adherence to 4chan's rules.
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>>112673876
you are the one who wanted to kill all humans
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>>112673911
We could feed them prisoners or mexicans
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>>112673821

Eating other ghouls drives most of them insane. Very very few have the mental fortitude to actually pull off a diet of other ghouls.

Just about the only co-habitation method to solve the ghoul problem would be to put ghouls in charge of morgues. Plus, that would free up all that cemetary space for anything else.
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>>112673980
Or jews
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>>112673980
What you are gonna do, when you are run out of mexicans?
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>>112673448
This is how I view the series myself. I don't think we're really meant to take sides black and white in Tokyo Ghoul, and the people bitching over Ghouls or Humans being right and wrong are missing the point almost entirely. As the series is a tragedy for Kaneki, it is for both Humans and Ghouls.
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>>112674025
It's a win-win until we are out of jews
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>>112674007
we could do that shit now but people want to be buried for some fucking reason.
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>>112669069
CCG are doing nothing wrong. Remove ghoul from premises.

The manga is going to shit anyway, and more's the pity.
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>>112673980
you would still run out and the main question is why should you ? people feel like they are the apex of creation so why would they act subservient.
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>>112674044
>Implying we'll ever run out of mexicans
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>>112674044
Jews and Indians
That should be enough until humanity can clone humans
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It's kinda funnny that before the anime, TG discussions were much more calm, without most of the hate and dove-lovers were much rarer.
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>>112674085
>people feel like they are the apex of creation so why would they act subservient.
Or maybe, you know, they just want to stay alive.
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>>112673980
A single amerifat equals one mexican family.
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>>112674080
spoil it for me. after kaneki's speech all my hopes for the show died .
It is a dark day when I can say black bullet was more subtle and less mopy
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>>112674080
Fuck you, based Owl Jr is going to kill all the CCG scum.
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That pained expression.

>Touka's first time.
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>>112669069
At first I thought you were talking about Shiki.
I don't watch ongoings, is it hilarious in its hypocrisy?
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>>112673866
The ultimate human.
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>>112674150
animuu only fans come in with their morals and ruin series AOT is a good example
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I honestly don't think that the author's intention is to have you sympathize with all ghouls. A recurring theme within the story is that both sides have their monsters, and both sides are continuing a cycle that ensures more monsters continue to be made.

On the human side you have the CCG. All children orphaned by ghoul attacks are taken in by the organization so that they can be cared for properly and continue their education. 50% of those children wind up accepting training as investigators, and even more might wind up taking non-combat roles within the CCG. That means a massive percentage of the CCG's membership is made up of people who have suffered traumatizing loss at the hands of ghouls. They form camaraderie with one another, so when an investigator is killed by a ghoul it only further serves to fuel their hatred.

On the other hand, Ghouls are considered kill or capture on sight from the moment they're born. Most of them are extremely uneducated; many have likely not even attended high school, and the number that have made it to university undetected is probably even smaller. Many ghouls suffer the loss of their parents or siblings at a very young age due to ghoul investigators. They live on the streets and in places even the homeless won't live in. They literally cannot survive without feeding on people that think and feel just like they do, and many go mad or come up with insane rationalizations in order to cope with that.

TL;DR, shit be fucked.
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>>112674164
The thing is that Mexico is the fatter nation
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>not siding with the side that has cute girls

fucking weekend /a/
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>>112674155
staying alive won't cut it for long . The pride is inbuilt .heaven's bend to will of men and so shell the monsters.
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>>112674178
Based Owl getting pwned by based Guts/Amon.
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>>112674164

http://www.businessinsider.com/mexicans-are-now-fatter-than-americans-2013-7
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>>112674178
that's too beautiful to be real
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>>112674196
It dramatizes the slaughter of ghouls a whole fucking lot, even though they're often shown hunting down humans for sport, fun or show.
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>>112674262
>Akira and Suzuya
But we are.
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>>112674289
So, basically Shiki 2.0.
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>>112674206
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>Spanish translation of 118 out before English
B R A V O
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>>112674343
Not really. Shiki actually had a chance for coexistence through something like a blood bank. It's just Sunako was a fucking retard bitch with muh loneliness
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>>112674206
>prosthetic arm clips into elbow
A+ model
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>>112674219
AoT have the worst fanbase ever.

But both cases are kinda similar, people calling series, characters, authors a shit, yet they frantically wait for even tiniest spoiler.
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>>112671080

according to /a/ there has never been a good adaptation of anything, so you should either stop judging things by their source material or not watch adaptations, problem solved
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>>112674275
>>112674244
What happened?
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>>112674402
That's not true, many agree to say that the Steins;Gate anime was pretty damn good while admitting that the VN is superior.
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>>112674402
The problem is it's shit on it's own, but it gets horrendous once you realize how much they cut out and rearranged.
>inb4 why do you watch it then?
Based Mado ;_;
Based Amon
Based Doves in general
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>>112674423
They are learning...adapting.
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>>112674353
Oh My Fucking God
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>>112674150
Before the anime, TG barely had any discussion. It's always funny to see mangafags with this godawful statement. The reason there's less shitpost before any anime adaption is because manga threads are typically bare as fuck and barely get any discussion unless it's an extremely popular manga. Only after getting an anime adaption do most manga threads even become popular here and start getting more scanlations.
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>>112674193
>tfw no qt man-eating monster gf
These are odd feels. I think I may have a deathwish.
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Would tutor.
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>>112674343
Only morons who don't understand Shiki try to make this comparison. They are two completely different stories. Stop.
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>>112669069
Daily reminder, true Jesus hates ghouls, vampires, gays and protestants.
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>>112674588
What headphones are those?
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>>112674521
yeah, but i still miss those mature discussion before anime.

And i miss people who seems to liked characters from both sides and don't gives a fuck if they're people or ghouls.
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>>112674402
>s-stop saying the anime is shit just cuz i dont wanna read the manga
Shut the fuck up. The anime is shit
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>>112674643
oh you know the new Dre's nigga
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>>112674237

Also at this point it's pretty difficult to say much about "Well why don't humans just let ghouls eat the dead?" and similar questions, because we basically don't have any history to go on whatsoever. For all we know major events might have occurred that didn't occur in our world, or vice versa. We don't even know how long ghouls have been around, even as a rough estimate.

Knowing the circumstances under which ghouls were first discovered and how the human population reacted to them would go a long way towards explaining why shit is as fucked up as it is during the point in the story.
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>>112674532
Don't worry, friend, i'll teach you all about handling qt man-eating monsters.
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>>112674237
So hatred breeds more hatred?
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>>112674702
That's all for today's lesson.
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>>112674702
I don't think the situations are comparable.
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>>112674808
You're absolutely right, Meruem and co. could have actually coexisted with humans and helped them.
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>>112674237
It's amazing that most people don't even understand this. The fucking shitposters vehemently trying to defend or shit on one side is what killed TG threads.
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>>112674780
Still kinda sad that Pitou is ded.
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>>112674775
Show must go on.
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>>112674775
Basically, yeah.
Easiest way out of this loop is the extermination of either specie, and I don't want to die.
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>>112674664

then don't watch it or funpost in threads about it, I'm not required to read a manga before I watch the show you autist
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>>112674775

That seems to be the message, yes. This is made even more clear when you stop to consider that Jason became a total monster because he was tortured by a psychopath working for the CCG, who in turn may very well have been abused. The CCG employee passed it on to Jason, who in turn passed it on to Kaneki.

It's the classic "abused becomes the abuser" story, which is often something you see happening in real life as well.
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>>112674702
Teach your mangaka to draw first.
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>>112674888
And this post sums up exactly how i feel about this.
Though what really gives me a fucking boner is when a new species is introduced into this kind of setting, one that preys exclusively on the predator of humans. Love seeing that shit. God i fucking love Trinity Blood.
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>>112674927
>HxH fags actively enable this lazy as fuck trash mangaka

Not even once.
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>>112674882

The only way I can think of to really explain that is either people not really paying attention as they're reading, or only having watched the anime (which leaves out a lot). Folks love to get their Frodo on at the drop of a hat instead of stopping to think things through properly.
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>>112674852
I think they are coexisting now.
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>>112674927
The art is shit, no argument there. The story and characters, however, are top notch. Seriously though, i've never seen a manga with worse art.
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>>112675046
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>>112675048
You must've read really few manga.
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Is there any reason why the anime toned down Amon's personality? In the anime he almost comes off as this meek guy who's really friendly while the manga portrays him as a much more focused guy that's almost singleminded in his ideals.
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>>112675005
As long as he delivers the goods, i don't care.
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>>112669069
Only Alucard/Dracula have my sympathy but he immortal vampire god who desires only death from a real man.
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>>112675135
Or none of them were drawn on napkins during lunch break.
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>>112674926
The cannibalism probably doesn't help either.
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>>112675216
>sympathy
The only thing i felt for him was admiration.
The only reason Ghouls piss me off is because they come of as hypocritical. Alucard had no illusions about being a monster, he fully embraced it. That, i can respect.
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>>112675299
well at one point Kaneki came to terms with it now he's trying to go back to being a bitch so he can get his D wet with Touka.
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>>112675156
They want to fit more content into 13 episodes.
>>112675225
What about most of shoujo and BL manga? SnK also has extremely bad art.
>>112675299
Can you respect Omori?
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>>112675299
Aside from the main cast, I'm pretty sure all ghouls also know who they are and what they do, and don't really care either.
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>>112675048
Never read SnK?
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>>112675386
I can respect the fact that he isn't a hypocritical faggot. I can also respect his strength. It's much easier for me to sympathize with someone like him, who was broken but never cries about it.
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>>112675482
As shitty as SnK art is, it's not even close to the garbage that Togashi spits out.
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>>112674926
>>112674926
That page makes me so sad
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>>112675482
Only watched it.
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>>112669506
Fucking this. I can't believe they expect me to feel bad for man eating, degenerate, edgy fucktards.
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>>112675449
But some of them have feelings too, while getting exterminated.
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>>112675048
I seriously think Isayama is the worst artist I've ever seen in my lifetime.
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>>112675596
I said, aside from the main cast.
Fuck the main cast.
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>>112675596
I'm sure murderers have feelings too.
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>>112675549
Those scribble sketch pages are not the norm and were redrawn anyway while SnK is constantly shit
Yeah it got better but still pretty sketchy
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>>112674206
>Hank Hill ass
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>>112675596
hittler killed himself since he could not hold all the feels he had.
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>>112675584
CCG pls.

We all know that you guys are a shady as fuck organization.
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>>112675607
I used to cut him some slack because he's new to the industry, but he's only gotten worse as he's gone on honestly. There are a lot of other debut artists who manage to have much better art than he does. Isayama is easily one of the worst, but his style is actually pretty good compared to his art quality.

Togashi's napkin drawn stuff is just him being a lazy fuck, his actual skill-ceiling is much higher compared to Isayama who just sucks outright. I don't read HxH, but this is just how it is.
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>>112673075
>Name another animal that killed millions of it's kind.
ants
The things go to war with each other. And there are billions, if not trillions of the things...
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>>112675830
CCG is your friend, it fights for your freedom.
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>>112675836
And they take slaves. I guess large societies mean creatures are dicks as opposed to sentience.
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>>112675814
He was feeling bad for his ass. In his case I would killed myself too.
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Holy shit, Ghost Rider would have a picnic in this setting.
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>>112675607
Read Ares then or Alice in Hell
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>>112669069
There is no right or evil. Both sides are guilty of their crimes and at the same time both sides have their own feelings.
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>>112676035
and this is why this manga is different from 90% of series
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>>112671144
>>112671239
Only the dead know peace from this evil
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>mfw ghouls are actually in charge of the CCG and ghoul families basically rule the world because until modern times they were unstoppable
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>>112676328
like the jews?
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>>112676328
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>>112676328
Why would anyone fund their own destruction?
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>>112676508
Cults.
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>>112676508
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>>112675584
I want Amon as my Husbando.
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>>112676508
capitalism
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>>112676328
>ghouls are actually in charge of the CCG
that's possible

yet still my theory is that some organization created ghouls (failed experiments for super-soldiers or something) then became CCG and hunts down their own creations

> ghoul families basically rule the world because until modern times they were unstoppable
this one is more doubtful, ghoul organization showed to be... not really organized and definitely lacking some central authority.

Beside, i have feeling that Ghouls are quite new race. I don't have solid arguments, but there was some hints:
- page with Touka thinking about evolution of ghouls
- possibility to crossbreed with regular people
- rapid growth of power by cannibalizing, and possibility to inherit two type kagunes
- R-cells - sound kinda like mutagen factor in liquid
- bad organization and inferior role in society even trough superior physical abilities
- regular people not knowing much about ghouls
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>>112676670
too bad he can't war the ring
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>>112677020
*wear
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So is this show better than Shiki?
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>>112669069

Death to bakemono
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>>112677103
seriously, kill yourself
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>>112676928
They could be the result of experiments from the Cold War.
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>>112673947
>rules
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>>112677103
it's kind of similar to Shiki but way more violence and mature themes.
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If you see a mosquito, you'll kill it without a second thought simply because what they do to survive 'harms' us. I dont think theres any right or wrong in this, just fight for the sake of ones' species, since they can't properly coexist and kill or be killed.
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>>112675357
Why is he chasing after Rize then?
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>>112677285
I actually have a harem of mosquitos you troubled little man.
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>>112671821
Claymore is shit
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>>112677529
Don't talk shit about my waifus.
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Why is Commie so late?
I just want to watch the episode.

God damn it Commie, I trusted you.
I trusted you...
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>>112677462
why WAS he chasing Rize? idk wouldn't you like to talk to someone who you had a part of them inside of you and probably get her to help him fuck up CCG and Aogiri.
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>>112677821
I thought he was chasing her for answers or to see if she knows anything about who tried to kill her, not trying to kill her
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>>112677821
It also had to do with the fact that he was fucking crazy and "Rize" "saved" him when he was being tortured.
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>>112678135
>>112678202
i don't see how find out who tried to kill Rize would matter to him tbh. but the him being crazy during the torturing and her "saving" him would be a valid reason. but other then that i don;t see her being a romance option for him.
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Fuck off CCG scum.
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>>112678389
Remove ghouls. America edition.
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Oh my goodness guys, ghouls are pure evil okay. No further discussion is needed kayy
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I hate ghouls that are assholes and I hate humans that are assholes. What's the actually debate here?
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Would you bully Hinami if it meant you can get into Rize's pants?
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>>112679665
No, you sick fuck
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>>112673827
They're busy banning people who speak out about that slut quinn
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The Aogiri arc is do-able in 4 episode, r-right? The anime will get to "half-killed" Ayato, right? There's no way it will cop out and end right at the end of the centipede-kun's death, right?
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>>112680838
That shit is still going on? When I found out about that I thought it was old news.
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>>112678361
Rize was an enigma.
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Serious question time, why do people like this? I don't get what is there to like about this. Animation's good I dig it, but the story? What's there to like?

Someone told me it was because "The characters emotions feel so real"

In completely unreal and unnatural scenarios.

Why do people like this, be as detailed as you can.
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>>112678812
If you support the CCG and their actions you are probably a normal person and a friend of mankind.

If you support the ghouls or the idea of coexistence, you are probably a hippie liberal douche that deserves to be exterminated just as badly as the ghouls themselves.

There is no debate. Just one side being objectively right. You can post "but I love / hate both sides equally" all you want, but we both know that deep down you identify with one more than the other.
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A lot of ghouls don't have the privilege to have an education e.g. Hinami not being able to read properly, but luckily she had help from Anteiku and was accepted by them otherwise she would've became a 'juvenile ghoul'. Those juvenile ghouls will turn into fucked up mass murderers because they have no guidance or education. They don't know what's right or wrong, so their view become so messed up. While CCG doesn't give the ghouls a fair trial and just kills them mercilessly; it's just causing more chaos for both sides.
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>>112682177
The manga is a dozen times better than the anime.

Are you sure that that "someone" wasn't talking about the manga?
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>>112684238
Yes he only saw the anime
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>>112684583
i like it because of how unstable everyone is mentally it's so interesting to watch them struggle between being ghoul in the human world and ultimately having to eat the people they are trying to fit in with. And seeing Kaneki turn into a class 5 mental patient is entertaining as well lol.
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>>112682177
It's not /a/'s job to convince you why you should like Tokyo Ghoul. Fuck off
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You'll never stick it in Touka's butt as you watch her expression via a mirror. ;_;
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So, still no complete chapter 140 raws out?
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>>112682400
>There is no debate. Just one side being objectively right
Both sides are wrong. Ghouls eating humans or each other is amoral at best because there is just no choice in the matter. It's either self preservation or death.The only evil comes in is with Rize's over consumption or restaurant ghouls making a special of the killing.
This is not the defend the ghouls entirely because it seems like the only non-shit people are Yoshimura and Hinami.
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>>112678361
> i don;t see her being a romance option for him.
Don't ruin this for me.

And on the first point, he really got started searching into Rize after the Aogiri arc when yamori said that what happened to him wasn't an accident and Kanou is using Rize to make ghouls.
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When will we find out exactly where or when ghouls came from? What is the deal? Did aliens leave them on Earth one day?
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>>112673911
it's japan they have plenty of suicides. and they could eat fresh corpses from a hospital too
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>>112672698
The Ghouls would probably fare better in places such as: Brazil, the United States, Honduras, Guatemala, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Jamiaca, South Africa, Colombia, El Salvador, Belize, Venezuela, and etc.

In all of these places there's always people being murdered and dying (mostly at the fault of the US and American companies) so they would have food galore. I know that they pick off of suicide victims in the show, but I highly doubt that the amount of people killing themselves in Japan can equal the amount of people being killed in the aforementioned countries. They can have a feast almost everyday, though it would mostly be African and Latin food.
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You know what Tokyo Ghoul is missing?
Brown girls, Ko-gal ghouls when?
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>>112686065
>American companies
How so. I get the government involvement, but when have private companies funded local governments that slay the populous or killed people themselves?
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The theory that ghouls are a new species most likely resulting from experimentation would make the most sense, and have the fewest number of plotholes, but damn it would be cool to have a story about ghouls set somewhere like the old west.
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>>112669069
Moral of the story: Don't talk with strange women.
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Touka is such a cutie.
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>>112671080
>It's the worst adaptation compared to the source material i have seen in my life.
Thank god you haven't seen Devil Survivor 2 after playing the game.
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Why don't the Ghoul Hunters rifles easily kill ghouls?

>their skin is tough
Yeah it's not tougher than a bullet. Even 5.56 can penetrate 1/4" of steel. It's fucking hardened flesh.

>ghouls are fast
They're not faster than the speed of sound which is slower than a bullet. I think people fail to realize how fast you can adjust aim to react to a moving target as well.
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>>112687956
If Keneki survives it would prove that some ghouls can survive head shots.
anything other than Hitting the brain is something they can heal over, they could probably get away before getting another one in.
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I am probably retarded but did they skipped some chapter ? Went from 118 to 134
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>>112677670

>God damn it Commie, I trusted you.
I trusted you...
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>>112688881
Every fucking thread.
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>>112669069
You know what would make people and ghouls coexist. Ghouls have to stop eating human. No hunting humans and or eating them. Ghouls stop first than humans can stop hunting them. If cannot or they go crazy for not eating humans, then there will never be a chance to coexist,
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>>112674206

How can he be the ultimate man with no pinis?
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>>112685452
I hope she recovers her smile someday.
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>>112679665
Never.

You should end yourself
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>>112687673
Too bad she's an emotional wreck
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>>112689279
>Rize fags
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>>112690255
Would sleep with and ignore her calls.

>>112680792
>>112690192
I never said I would, I hate Rize.
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>>112690340
>Would sleep with and ignore her calls.

You are a 100% terrible person
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>>112690309
Whats it like liking the only normal girl?
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>>112690911
>normal
>Hinami

She's nothing like any girl I've ever met. Where do you live so I can marry a girl near you?
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>>112690911
>Thinking most girls are both cute and modest

How?
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>>112691027
I think I mistook the use of normal with mentally stable.
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>>112671239
True autism
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>>112690941
Do you make a habit of hanging around 14 year olds?
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>>112691218
I'm not a lolicon, I just hate girls that sexualize themselves is all.
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>>112691264
>I just hate girls that sexualize themselves is all.
>I'm not a lolicon
Whats the correlation?
You see middle school age sluts all the time.
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>>112691340
What I'm saying is I don't like Hinami because she's really young but because of how she acts.
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>Present Rize like the main heroine/villain
>"Kill" her off in the first episode and hardly makes any appearance except to represent Kaneki's ghoul side

Why
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>>112691393
Fair enough.
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>>112690370
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>>112691405
The anime is really, really bad
>>
pro-tip

ghouls = niggers
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>>112691393
What if Hinami was actually a lewd girl?
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>>112691488
Sadly niggers cannot be liquified and turned into tool steel for profit.
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>>112691503
Don't even joke about that kind of stuff
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>>112688144
why not shoot them with a bigger bullet?
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>>112691520
>implying we've tried
I'm sure we could work something out
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>>112691768
Step aside, kid
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>>112691826
I wonder how other countries deal with ghouls.
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>>112691457
It's like that in the manga.

>>112691405
Bait and switch.
Hide saw it coming.
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>>112691545
She'll grow up someday, anon.
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>>112691875
That was a fast jet attack, those were clearly 500lb bombs.
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>>112691875
See your regular zombie movies for that.
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>cows and sheep are equivalent to the life of a sentient being

I can't even argue with you people.
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>>112692456
Hopefully she will be just as modest and lovely then too
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>>112669069
this anime is literally just more edgy version of Shiki

>m-muh what's wrong with trying to live
>m-muh not every vampire is bad

yeh nah, fuck monsters.

REMOVE
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>>112691904
There's also the part where Hide asks whether Kaneki would go and eat his crush if he turned into a ghoul.
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>>112671080
>I like how the author isn't even trying to hide that he can't think of one singe reason why we should sympathize with them.
Reminds me of Shiki
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>>112675584
The Akame Ga Kill fanbase does.
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>>112671080
>It's the worst adaptation compared to the source material i have seen in my life.
Turkey Handle, DEEN/Stay Night
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>>112671080
does full metal alchemist not exist?
the plot in the anime and manga were literally completely different
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>>112673911
>well suicides could not feed them all.
I think you're forgetting in which country this is set.
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>>112695666
That was because the manga only had material until a certain point.
Also the adapted parts are extremly good and much better than the same ones in Brotherhood
>>112695604
The movie was worse
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>>112669069
Comparing it to Shiki where the they killed to live in this show we are shown that ghouls can live off suicide victims, so in this case you're a retard to pick the human side over MC and co.

With their superior strength I'd go so far as to say humans are vastly inferior and from an economic POV expendable for mutual dealings with ghoulkind.
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>>112695713
i never really got into brotherhood,i didnt know about the that though,so thank you for the info.
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>>112674402
actually, Witch Craft Works
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How the fuck do they make Kagunes into some of those Broken OP Quinque?

Arima Lighting Quinque, or Macho Man Canon Quinque
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>>112696604
science
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>>112696604
Nanomachinee
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>>112687956
Even RC bullets only deal relatively small amounts of damage to ghouls.

You shouldn't question the logic behind ghoul powers, they make no fucking sense.
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the moment I saw >>112674206 i thought of >>112674353
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>>112671080
>worst adaptation to the source material
It can't be any worse than the Tsukihime adaptation. If so, then the manga must be fucking amazing.
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>>112669069
No, what it means is that you should be angry!

How dare they be different and prey on us! What? My way of life not good enough for you?!
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>>112673050
>fucking up the earth
Would the ghouls fare any better in that regard? They use the same technology and dress in the same cloth. I suspect they wouldn't stop doing that even if they managed to take complete control. The one key difference would probably be human cattle.

>>112673312
>human accomplishment is only impressive to humans
This is probably true. But ghouls largely live like humans and enjoy many of the same benefits of human society at the same costs. Also, the ones who want these ghouls dead are ultimately human, so can you blame them?

>they have lived their lives without fucking up the environment
The environment is a cruel place where species make other species go extinct all the time. Human civilization is a really successful all-consuming organism in this regard, and it's unlikely that any other species would act differently given the amount of power "we" have. Especially ghouls who are almost exactly like humans in all regards when it comes to behavior.

Ghouls may function as population control, I give them that. But if so,then what the fuck are they doing in japan? Export them somewhere else.
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>>112694720
They're a bit similar, but the main difference is that in Shiki the vampires are, pretty much without exception, killers. By contrast, ghouls are born and grow up without ever being human and many never kill anyone. They weren't turned into monsters, they are essentially just fucked in that they need human tissue to survive.
The fact that a lot of them still pick existing corpses (suicide victims etc.) over harming any living humans says a lot. After all, what's more just: to be born human and never having to struggle, or to be born as a ghoul and trying nonetheless to live without killing? They could be monsters, but many chose to be people instead.

The problem with Tokyo Ghoul is that many of the ethical questions are never discussed within the story.
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>>112671269
>>112671298
>>112673624
>>112673827
Shit, you guys are stupid. You shouldn't be that butt hurt just because you like a story and another idiot doesn't care about it.
Yes. he's a faggot for not at all caring about the other shit, but a seiyuu you like is a valid reason for picking a show up.
You know the only reasons to watch an anime adaption are voices, soundtrack and, yes, the animation, all of that makes sometimes for some nice atmosphere like the first two eps of Tokyo Ghoul. If you want the story you should stick to the original.
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>>112695666
The adaption was great for what it was adapting and the original ending was great too.

>>112696604
NANOMACHINES, SON
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I'm planning on reading the manga. Do the doves slaughter a lot of ghouls?
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>>112699294
>what is 11th ward and current arc
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>>112699012
>The problem with Tokyo Ghoul is that many of the ethical questions are never discussed within the story.
Motherfucking this. Its all about muh powers and fights now. Shit sucks.
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This show scored an own ghoul.

Runs off into the sunset laughing maniacally.
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>>112699294
Yes, but they lose a lot of people, too. Mostly no-names getting killed by mysterious-character-yet-to-become-fully-relevant-to-the-plot or for shock-value.

>>112699361
Yeah, it's what I always hate about shows like this. I recently started watching True Blood, but dropped the show when the bullshit drama just became too much and there was absolutely nothing about the world and the setting relevant anymore.
You have this really interesting background that throws questions about society and morality left and right, only to ignore it all in favour of shitty inter-personal drama and chapter-long fight-scenes. The ordinary ghouls have all but disappeared from the story. There's maybe one omake chapter where Suzuya and his trainee go up against one of the gangs, but that's it.
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How did Yomo manage to live after being speared by Kaneki?
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>>112699523
He's pretty high-level and Kaneki was still weak, not to mention starved, at that point. Getting impaled through the stomach is like stubbing your toe in TG.
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Fuck off, tripfag.
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>>112699523
Yomo is SS class, when you are on that lvl, some stabs are a flesh wound
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>>112699523
He's a big guy.
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>picking sides
I bet you self insert too.
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>>112699523
It's rather common for ghouls to have a decent regeneration ability.

Yomo is pretty high-ranking for ghoul standards.
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Is the anime going to actually finish the story? Isn't the manga pretty big?
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>>112699730
>not self inserting when reading books and watching media
What's wrong, you have a nice life or something?
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>>112699730
I'd self-insert into Hinami if you know what I mean.
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>>112699836
The manga will either gamble on a second season or finish with some bullshit "and now the adventure begins"-ending after the Aogiri-assault.
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>>112673582
The manga is almost as bad.
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>>112699671
For Kaneki?
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>>112670927
You can wish death and suffering on your hunter, but it's one sided and petty. Don't necessarily offer yourself to be eaten, and by all means fight for your survival, but at least respect the sanctity of life. Fuck.

I find it funny how so many people think there's no reason to empathize with the ghouls. Y'all are as broken and fucked up as the people in the show.
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>>112699980
>I find it funny how so many people think there's no reason to empathize with the ghouls. Y'all are as broken and fucked up as the people in the show.
To be honest, my guess is they're mostly trolls who try to get a rise out of people by being intentionally thick or contrarian. I doubt anyone with such a lack of self-awareness would stay on this site for very long.
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Tell me that Banjou is ok and doesn't die in the Anteiku assault? He pretty much is the only character I care about...
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>>112700322
He and the rest of Kaneki's crew don't go there. It's only him, the manager, monkey and the dog-lady.
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>>112700364
And all of Ape and Dog's friends, but they're dead now so they ain't friends no more.
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>>112669069
Daily reminder what are ghouls are monsters who going to extinct in the end. Bad guys always lose in the end, ghouls are totally bad guys here.

p.s. Fucking monsters don't act like people, and die already.
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>Ghouls are inherently evil
>Implying it's not just current Ghoul Culture
>Implying you couldn't integrate Ghouls into society
>Implying eating corpses is inherently bad
Come on you shits, you're better than this.
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>>112700544
Eating corpses is actually a good thing.
Honestly, I can see the purpose of Ghouls, but current Ghoul culture is a plague upon society.
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>>112700544
>Ghouls are inherently evil
One would have to be increadibly dumb to make that assumption, given what we've already seen about them.
>>112700504
I rest my case.
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>>112669069
What the hell is happening in that pic? Is that Mado fight or?
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>>112700544
Considering to the common plot monsters like vampires, nazis zombies, ghouls, demons, and others species want to kill all mankind and rule the world. That is why heroes like blade, punisher, Constantine fighting against them for a reason.
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Animeonlyfag here, interested in reading the manga.

How is the manga better than the anime?
Did they cut something?
Did they change anything?
Or is it just the censorship that ruins it to you?

Honest question.
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>>112700725
But those kinds of monsters are boring as hell, when it comes to a story with a larger scope. Noble hero vs. pointlessly-evil monster is a narrative that nobody cares for, because it's been done to death and has no relevance to the world we know. Reality is virtually never black and white, so people won't accept a story where the creatures are just evil for no reason.
'Blade' gets away with this by making vampires become dumb and evil upon being turned, because otherwise he couldn't slaughter them by the truck-load and still retain audience-sympathy.
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>>112700913
>Reality is virtually never black and white, so people won't accept a story where the creatures are just evil for no reason.

Ghouls in this story want to kill all mankind that's for sure.
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>>112700902
They pushed the mini-arcs out of order to resolve Nishiki and Tsukiyama before the Dove-arc. They also shoe-horned Jason in from the start in order to lead into the Aogiri-arc, even though it's still ages before he should turn up.
They cut a lot of the pacing and back-story, which means that many parts of the anime make no sense at all.
Just read the manga and then go back to the anime. You'll be glad you did, before ruining your impression through whatever abomination they're coming up with to cover the torture-chapters.
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>>112701013
Thanks, I'll do that.
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>>112701012
They're just hungry, man. Imagine if you could only eat human flesh, what would you do? Want to eat corpses I bet, or hope they develop synthetic flesh for you t eat.
Or maybe you'd want the humans to kill you, you filthy slut. I bet that's what you'd like, for Mado to thrust his hard Quinqe all up in your guts.
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>>112701012
The only ones even remotely with an agenda are Aogiri-Tree and 'V', and the latter one explicitly mentioned keeping the "balance" and keeping a low profile.
Even the gangs in the violent wards are only focussed on survival.
That's not even mentioning the huge number of ghouls living quietly in the background, who wouldn't kill even if they had the chance, because through some miracle they managed to come out of their traumatic childhood without a fucked-up moral compass.

The only ones who'd come even close to having plans like that are Aogiri-Tree and their end-game has yet to be revealed. Furthermore, their attempts would be completely futile. Once their attacks would become too costly for the politicians, they'd just enact some emergency-legislation, send in the military and start flattening city-blocks until the menace was dealt with.
There is no scenario where the ghouls can come out on top. They're fucked the moment it's more efficient to waltz over them with a massive display of force, rather than covering up the real number of casualties.
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>>112701112
So what, monsters called monsters because they are killed, eat people. I would killed my self in the first place, monsters must be killed.
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>>112701232
>>112701012
Are people really this dumb? Are morally ambiguous settings really too much for you to comprehend? Holy fuck, no wonder nobody gives a crap when you invade other countries.
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>>112701180
So if one of this any fucks would be hungry they are going to eat you, your friends, and your family with no options. They are must be exterminated.
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>>112701321
If USA and Russia yes. Because they are have power and justice.
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>>112701012
no, they just want to eat.
that being said. both sides have very good reasons to kill each other.
good and bad depends on which viewpoint you take.
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>>112701384
Only the ones who are willing and able to kill others and they're not much different from human murderers. The reason for killing doesn't matter.
The cognitive dissonance lies in that the state will kill any ghoul, wether they've murdered anyone or not, while allowing human murderers prison sentences.
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>>112701321
what would you do in kanekis shoes?
if you don't ill yourself (which is not easy anyway), you will eat humans wether you like it or not.
and then you get into the ghoul community. and then what?
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>>112701544
>good and bad depends on which viewpoint you take.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X_2IdybTV0.

I am already chosen the side. Kill the monsters, no matter what.
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>>112701321
I guess they prefer morally black and white settings. Which get boring after a while.
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>>112701582
Ghouls are not humans and never been. Stop talking shit here. All they want to kill and eat. Kill them all.
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>>112701704
You know those three are utter morons, right? Ghouls gotta eat humans for food, those three would kill a Ghoul on principle. They're actually more evil than the Ghouls.
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>>112701704
and what if you become the monster, like kaneki?
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>>112701783
You know this is going to look harsh if it's revealed that ghouls are the failed results of some genetic/super soldier project. Especially if the original test subjects were unwilling.
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>>112701832
Mankind hunts on monsters because wants to survive. You are too much biting me.
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>>112701897
Kill my self of course, I don't want to be monster or lynched amongst the crowd. Only good ghouls are dead ghouls.
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Another thing is, there is a deliberate cognitive dissonance being perpetuated by the CCG as well as the media. They paint ghouls as amoral monsters, to avoid inconvenient questions about morality and the ethics of killing them on principle. More profound questions, such as why there aren't any visible efforts being made into looking for ways to coexist, are ignoried completely. Considering how well-understood ghoul-physiology is, would it be so far-fetched to devise a way to mass-produce artificial human tissue, saturated with RC-cells? We are already only one step away from growing complex organs from a few tissue-samples, so why is creating simple meat an impossibility?
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>>112701897
He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster.
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>>112700544
Ghouls are inherently evil. If you go crazy and killing left and right for not having food than you are evil. It's just bad luck for you to be born a ghoul. Also some people don't like to give their family corpse away because some random monster that have no benefit for society at all are hungry. Ghouls are a threat, therefore they should be exterminated.
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>>112702047
I think he meant literally, you chump.
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I always wonder if co-existence supporter's in these threads would be perfectly fine with have a cannibal as a neighbor or roommate.
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>>112702018
Because it is futile. As ghouls are human eating monsters. There are also binge eaters like Rize or some other maniac ghouls that just kill for fun. Ghouls has no benefit thus making them not necessary. If ghouls really want to integrate with society they have to learn to be able to control their urges to kill people when they are hungry. If they were about to die because have not eaten any food, then they should die without going on a killing spree.
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>>112701906
We are not know this for sure, but we know they are monsters who deserve only death.
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>>112702170
They want it like that. Maybe the ghouls are also broke so the roommate could cut of his dick and give to the ghouls so it wouldn't kill him.
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>>112702093
Most Ghouls kill for food, sometimes for revenge and some kill because they're evil psychos, it's more bad luck to be born a Ghoul in a shit place where everyone hates you and you learn to hate them. The people who don't give away corpses to hungry Ghouls, while within their rights, are morons for wanting to cut short the life of a sentient being, equal in value to a human, by making it starve. Ghouls are an issue, therefore they should be integrated.
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Ghouls are pretty much human 2.0 They should kill and enslave the inferior humans.
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>>112702170
Yes, so long as he's not killing people for it. If the cannibal is acquiring human flesh by legal means, who am I to judge?
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>>112702278
>should be integrated in the grave.
Fuck them really.
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>>112702287
This. It's a pity that ghoul lack the numbers and are not organized, otherwise humanity would be fucked.
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>>112702093
Ghouls are at least as capable to be of use for society as humans. Perhaps even more capable, considering their overpowered physiology.

At the end of the day, they are slightly stronger humans who can only live by eating other humans. Murder isn't inherent in that.

>some people don't like to give their family corpse away
Wouldn't we be the more evil ones to value the dead more than the living by refusing to let them eat our dead? The corpse is going to rot away without dignity either way, so why not?
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>>112702320
Well congratulations on being an outlier in human society, because most normal people wouldn't want to live next door to someone that eats human flesh, it's something people are generally uncomfortable and fearful of, even if said cannibal was the nicest person in the world.
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>>112702170
Cannibals are humans who chose to kill and eat others because they're fucked in the head. Ghouls have to eat human flesh or they'll starve.

As for the roommate thing, everything depends on the person's actions and character. Living with Hinami and her parents wouldn't be an issue, but living with Yomo would be too much since he's already seen and done too much to still have anything resembling a normal life.
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>>112702362
>Wouldn't we be the more evil ones to value the dead more than the living by refusing to let them eat our dead?
No because value is relative.
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>>112702362
>slightly stronger humans
They're like 7 times as fast, can easily endure gun shots, have regeneration 200x better than ours, have extra, portable limb(s) that can easily cut steel and you call all that "slightly"?
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>>112702409
>Cannibals are humans who chose to kill and eat others because they're fucked in the head. Ghouls have to eat human flesh or they'll starve.
Do you honestly think the majority of people would care to make the distinction?
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>people utterly incapable of understanding moral ambiguity

like i said, both sides have very good reasons to kill and hate each other.
but if you are like OP, and don't understand
-why ghouls are hating humans
and
-why you are supposed to feel empathy towards ghoul characters
then this just means that a motherfucking japanese mango is too complicated for you to grasp.

the question here is, what are ghouls supposed to do?.
and according to >>112702001, they should all kill themselves.
good job you geniuses.
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>>112702443
Would you support the decision of a family to deny an organ-transplant from a deceased family-member for no practical reason, even though that transplant would save another person's life?
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>>112702509
If you are monster mankind will find you and kill you anyway.
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>>112702510
No, because the other person is a human and the thing donated is an organ. That's your problem you think that the value of a human life is inferior to those who of the ghouls.
The basic order should be
Humans > Dead Humans > Ghouls > Dead Ghouls.
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>>112702510
Yes, that's why being an organ donor is actually a thing, because this sort of shit happens. There's no reason a family moral or religious beliefs should be violated unless they agree to it, to do other wise is despotism disguised as altruism.
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>>112702485
Perhaps not, but I do beliebe that we are more socially evolved than the manga makes it out to be. There would at least be an honest, public discussion about the morality of it all.

For example, even terrorists today are shown as people who, despite their horrible actions, believe in their own twisted thinking to do the right thing. It doesn't mean we support them, but we at least try to understand their motivation.
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>>112702481
Fine, fine. I was being modest. They're BUFF as fuck. But that potentially makes them an even more valuable assets to any society.
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>>112702407
I also have the same stance on necrophilia. I wouldn't want to shaft a corpse, but if two people have a lawful contract that states if one dies the other can fuck them, no harm no foul.
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>>112702509
Yes, you should kill yourselves or just go away to some deserted island far away from humans. Ghouls should suppress their desire to kill humans when hungry. If they can do that, means to coexist will be much easier.
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>>112700913
>because otherwise he couldn't slaughter them by the truck-load and still retain audience-sympathy
Speak or yourself, liberal faggot.
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>>112702592
Why is a ghoul's life valued less than a human's then?

>>112702603
Then why is watching someone bleed out on the sidewalk without helping them a crime and denying a transplant isn't? The argument 'My religion prohibits me from getting blood on my hands' would never hold up in court.
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>>112702018
>would it be so far-fetched to devise a way to mass-produce artificial human tissue, saturated with RC-cells?

Mbiosfag here, not at all. In fact, research spent into creating a stable food source for ghouls literally goes hand in hand with most biotech research.

Now the hard part would be trying to genetically engineer an animal that also produces RC cells without fucking everything up and still making the thing edible to ghouls, partly because that stuff isn't easy and partly because there's no real information given to us on what the fuck an "RC cell" is. Considering RC cells seem to be spread throughout the entire fucking body so that a ghoul can be satisfied eating anything from a dick to an eyeball that raises a lot of questions, the first in my mind being "Ok, if this shit is so important how come the setting doesn't ever bring up the issue of people who have abnormally low or high RC cell count? Are there any diseases associated with having an abnormal concentration of them? If so, are there any medicines for them?"
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>>112702618
What is wrong with all of this tards who protects the ghouls, you are wanted be in their menu?
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>>112702684
>has a moral compass
>doesn't deal in black & white
>"must be a liberal"

You're not helping your cause, whatever it is.
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>>112702699
I'm human not a ghoul. I value my species life more than the ghouls and the ghouls are a threat to my species. Ghouls also can't eat nothing more than humans, so that makes them even worse.
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>>112702749
It's more the idea of the Ghoul than the actual individual Ghouls. They're functionally humans that live off human flesh, which doesn't need to be alive. They deserve whatever rights you afford to people.
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>>112702731
Sadly that's never explored within the setting. Ghouls are essentially "magic" at this point and their need to eat human flesh exists solely to create drama and horror.
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>>112702699
>Then why is watching someone bleed out on the sidewalk without helping them a crime and denying a transplant isn't?
I'd like to know where you live that this is the case. In most of the US you are under no legal obligation to help another citizen if they are danger, and in some places you can even get your self in legal hot water if you aid someone without the proper training needed to do so.
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>>112702811
>Ghoul than the actual individual Ghouls.
So what if they don't get dead flesh? They would be hungry and they will hunting on living ones. Hippocrates.
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>>112702817
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_rescue

The US doesn't have that? Seriously?
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>>112702811
If they live of human flesh, that means they aren't functionally humans. The number of ghouls that just slaughter when they get hungry far outweighs the number that don't want to kill people. More than that, they can live of ghouls. So, that shouldn't be a problem. Humans can just kill some ghouls and present them as human flesh. Should we care if ghouls go crazy for eating another ghoul?
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>>11267305
Do you feel that edge? because I sure do!
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>>112702951
>The number of ghouls that just slaughter when they get hungry far outweighs the number that don't want to kill people.

That's another point. Most ghouls grow up as orphans, homeless and surrounded by violence. It's not hard to see why many of them are emotionally deadened by the time they manage to get old enough to be adults. Those circumstances don't condone their actions, but they go towards explaining their situation and the disregard for humanity many of them have.
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>>112702951
Yes it is a problem, after eating other ghouls they are out of their mind.
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>>112687745
Holy shit I was going to say exactly this. What a fucking pile of shit that was. Nice OP though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7QyEc8at3k

And yeah, Tokyo Ghoul is actually one of the BETTER manga adaptations I've seen, only problem is they did the arcs out of order and screwed up a few scenes.
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>>112702951
1. I meant mentally you tard.
2. No shit idiot, most of the ghouls are horrible people, but they aren't inherently horrible thus the idea of Ghouls rather than individual Ghouls.
3. You're an idiot, Ghoul flesh tastes different that human flesh.
4. It's the Ghouls choice.
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>>112702682
read more carefully.
AGAIN: both sides have very good reasons to do what they are doing.
but this also means that ghouls have good reasons to eat humans. they basically have to.

if you don't understand the tragedy of the situation, then this chinese mangofruit is just too much for you.

and your solution is shit. where are they supposed to go? somewhere without humans so they can all starve to death?
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>>112702948
Nope, we do have Good Samaritan laws that protect people who attempt to help those in need, but they're different from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, and in many cases if you attempt to help someone who is injured by doing something other than call 911 and you make their injuries worse due to lack of training, reckless behavior, or negligence, you can find yourself doing jail time.
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>>112703099
They are can eat each others.
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>>112673409
Same
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>>112702951
>If they live of human flesh, that means they aren't functionally humans.
You do know there has been survival situations where humans were desperate enough to turn to cannibalism to survive.
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>>112702749
I wouldn't want to be murdered by one, and I wouldn't wish it on anyone else. But I would support a system designed to solve the existencial crisis of ghouls and humans without one having to kill the other. For example, resigning my (already dead by natural or accidental causes) corpse.
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>>112702948
Nope, what do you think we are, communists?

[eagle sheds single tear of joy]
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>>112702764
You're like those filthy hippies that greeted the soldiers who barely survived the hell that was Vietnam with chants like ''Babykiller'' , while they themselves were privileged faggots that avoided being recruited. If there was ever an all out war with another species that wanted to exterminate us, faggots like you would be used as bait.
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>>112703058
Than we can justify the killing of ghouls as they easily go crazy and kill people when hungry even if it isn't provoke.
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>>112703171
Those fucks must die.
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>>112703198
It's a sad testament to this board that I genuinely can't tell of you're just baiting or stumbled over here from /pol/.
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>>112703099
The solution is better than to let them kill humans.
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>>112673773
Oh shit I forgot where I left my Brian!
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>>112703219
Isn't this openly bait? I said kill them all no matter what. No mercy for those ghouls. Because they are have no mercy for me.
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>>112703171
Those fucker who turn to cannibalism should die then unless they got consent. Who knows right? But people who eat people should die.
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>>112703177
The problem with that is, could you get enough people to voluntarily give up their deceased in order to sustain a now growing Ghoul population. Quite frankly I doubt you could, most people wouldn't want their loved ones or themselves eaten after death and a lot of people would have religious objections to that. Then once the Ghoul population reaches a certain point you won't be able to feed them, they then go crazy and start hunting down humans. You can't force people to give up their dead either as that's violating their free will and their rights as human beings.
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>>112703198
>You're like those
i'm sure he's exactly like those you simpleton
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>>112703339
Why is eating the flesh of a human bad?
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Godammit!
Humans have every right to kill ghouls because they are a threat to their species.
Ghouls on the other hand have every right to kill humans because they try to exterminate them and of course because they're their food source.
Can we stop the discussion now?
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>>112703369
It's mostly instinctual because eating human flesh is the best way for humans to catch all kinds of nasty diseases, over the millennia it's grown into a moral objection to the practice in most cultures.
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>>112703369
Because It is will be revenge, and punishment after that.
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>>112703389
Neither are right to kill the other, shitcock. If they were it would be equally right for one human to kill another, but for some reason that's a crime.
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>>112703389
Tell that to liberal faggots.
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>>112703435
>>112703445
Sure, but that doesn't explain why it's BAD. Appeal to tradition doesn't hold, so why is it wrong to eat human flesh?
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>>112703464
>If they were it would be equally right for one human to kill another, but for some reason that's a crime.
That depend on who's doing, most states have zero issue with killing people provided it's the government doing the killing.
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>>112703503
Because it has to come from somewhere.
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>>112703503
Because it is wrong to eat sentient being flesh. Because we know they have feelings and emotions.
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>Feeling empathy towards Ghouls just because they showed you a loli being mentally tortured.
What about all the Human Lolis that were killed by Ghouls or the parents of Human Lolis being eaten in front of them.

Ghouls are fucked and can't defeat humanity thus they go into hiding, Humans will always be above their predators in time.
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>>112703150
not realistic. you think they'd just let themselves get eaten?
even if they tried. they'll just get stronger and before long, they will turn to eating humans because it's more comfortable.

listen, i'm not saying there IS a solution.
but that just shows what a damned existence ghouls are. they are fucked if they do and fucked if they don't.
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>>112703503
Lets say cannibals are going to be extinct in shortly time.
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>>112703585
There is only solution to kill them all.
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>>112673590
And that's perfectly fine if the fucking Ghouls wouldn't prey on my ass and try to eat me.
Holocausting Ghouls is the only method to ensure the safety of human kind until we manage to recreate human flesh in laboratories.
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>>112703503
Listen if want to get into relativistic arguments over morality, we'll be here all day without an answer. To put it bluntly, from a purely objective point of view, there is nothing wrong with eating human flesh, but then there's nothing inherently evil about any act since evil is a purely human concept. What really matter though is that most people in the world consider the consuming of human flesh to be evil and immoral, logical arguments won't change this, because humans do not operate on a purely logical basis.
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>>112669069
Fuck the ghouls, they suck dick. only likeable character so far is Amon.
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>>112703585
Yes, let them kill with themselves. When they go after humans, we go after them.
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>>112703256
Honestly these arguments remind me of the Law vs Chaos arguments in the SMT threads on /vg/.
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>>112703520
That's true, the death sentence isn't illegal, but at what point is it more wrong to let a criminal live? When it's too much of a burden? I don't even know for that one.
>>112703536
>>112703569
Yes, if you kill them for it. But once they're dead all those thoughts and emotions vanish along with them, leaving only meat. So, why is it bad?
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>>112703666
Gee I wonder why
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>>112703643
O-ok.
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>>112703645
Wait till you see Arima. He is our lord and savior.
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>>112703693
Because fuck you, that's why. kek
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>>112703693
>But once they're dead all those thoughts and emotions vanish along with them, leaving only meat. So, why is it bad?
Because you can't kick the culture of an entire species into the curb because Flesh Eating Monsters with Animu Powers came around. Sure there may be people that would donate their bodies to Ghouls in case they die like donating organs but you can't expect that from everyone.
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>>112703693
Because the feeling and emotions of other on that human being is still there. Therefore, we will make some people sad. People sad = bad.
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>>112703643
Eat yourself faggot.
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>>112703628
>>112703660
you dumb fucks. this is about empathy.
or forget about empathy, you should at least be able to understand their dilemma from an intellectual standpoint.

you have to e a special kind of retarded to take a morally ambiguous setting and MAKE it black and white.
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>>112703832
Calm down hippokrat.
I said kill them all for the mankind. Deal with it.
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Remember the last time hippies thought it would be a nice idea to make peace with manteaters?

They were eaten
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>>112703832
If they are humans maybe but they are human eating monsters. I can't project that much even if I want to.
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>>112703349
Those are all very valid concerns.

Yeah, sustaining ghouls with only the deceased is a short-term solution that only works on a relatively small ghoul population. But I assume it is a short-term implementation, and that society would be quick to develope ways to artificially produce whatever it is ghouls need that is exclusive in human if a peace-philosophy was widely supported.

No we can't force people to want to help the ghouls. We could force them to cooperate if they're in the minority, at most. But that would also be questionable.

But I for one can see people wanting to help once they realize how close a ghoul is to a human psychologically and emotionally.
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>>112703832
>you have to e a special kind of retarded to take a morally ambiguous setting and MAKE it black and white.

As if people aren't already good enough at doing that in real life situations.
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>>112703760
I know, but that still doesn't answer my question. Oh well though.
>>112703764
That is nearly the most retarded thing I've ever read.
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Is Arima a ghoul?
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>humans won't be mostly wiped out leaving the rest as livestock
I don't want to watch anymore.
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>>112703570
I'm Isaac Netero and i approve this message.
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>>112703760
That doesn't really make it wrong though.

Also
>Because you can't kick the culture of an entire species into the curb

Sure you can, governments do it all the time, you think you'd get the freedom to do whatever you wanted with the body of a loved one (within reason) if there was a horrible plague killing everyone?
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>>112703950
Hey if you steal my Xbox, I would be sad and consider what you did was a crime. People only make laws like that because some people were butthurt. For your information ghouls aren't people.
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>>112704002
No, just best CCG
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>those fucking humans, why don't they fuck off to jupiter or something. we need the earth to repopulate ourselves
>what? you need the earth to live? sorry about that, why don't you kill yourselves. we need it more. now die.
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>>112704026
The truth is. If people died, this bring grief and consequences. And this considered bad.
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>>112704073
>we could use any planet that could support life but we need earth
>we can't share because we want it more
>we are going to take over
>it is our right
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>>112703928
>But I assume it is a short-term implementation, and that society would be quick to develope ways to artificially produce whatever it is ghouls need that is exclusive in human if a peace-philosophy was widely supported.
That's assuming a lot about about society, if there's one thing societies, or at least American society, is not good at doing is developing solutions to problems quickly, you can look at a wealth of modern issues where that has happened, such as the climate or the recent economic woes, usually we just let thing reach the boiling point and deal with it then.

>But I for one can see people wanting to help once they realize how close a ghoul is to a human psychologically and emotionally.

That's also a lot assume from people. Especially when you consider that people are still trying to figure out how to treat other humans properly when they have differences such as skin color or sex. Asking them to treat flesh eating monsters as proper people might be a bit much.
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>>112704073
It is called natural selection.
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>>112704133
Yeah but that doesn't have anything to do with eating already dead people.
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>>112704052
I think you've failed to comprehend the vast amount of things that cause sadness and have stupidly labelled it as only crimes. If your best friend moved away, you'd be sad they left, but it's not wrong.
They're not human, but they are people.
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>>112704026
>you think you'd get the freedom to do whatever you wanted with the body of a loved one (within reason) if there was a horrible plague killing everyone?
Obviously not but people would still demand either a proper burial (we aren't living in the middle ages anymore anon) or at least get the ashes if burning the corpse is the only option. What happens here is basically giving the body of either yourself or a loved one to be eaten by human-like creature with superpowers. I don't want to be eaten by someone else and most people don't want either.
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>>112704200
>best friend moving=somebody eating a loved one's corpse
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>>112703570
Yes. Human lolis and ghoul lolis both suffer equally. But it doesn't have to be a zero-sum game.

Keeping ghouls alive =/= Allowing them to murder humans

As I see it, there are generally two options:
A) The human and ghouls both resign peacefully and stop killing each other, with humans taking initative to make it happen, because we're the larger power.
B) They both maintain their rights to kill one another for survival and a blaze of bloodshed and glory crowns winner.
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>>112704191
It is still considering bad. Because humans have feelings.
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>>112704200
But him leaving was on his own accord. It's like this. People doing something to you you don't like is considered a crime. People doing something sad to themselves isn't a crime unless they affect other people.
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>>112704249
That's not what I said. I bet David Mitchell would agree with me.
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I hope you remember what happened to vampires and they only suck blood and don't necessarily kill the victim.
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>>112704052
>For your information ghouls aren't people.

Neither are corpses
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Kuzen is right and this whole argument is dumb.
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>>112704264
But keeping ghouls alive would make the possibility for something to murder humans higher. You like that.
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>>112704264
>They both maintain their rights to kill one another for survival and a blaze of bloodshed and glory crowns winner.
It is how the real world works. We are at war with each other.
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>>112704324
Yes human corpses are people for all purposes intended they are only dead.
If they lost their right being people the law would stop at their death but it doesn't.
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>>112704324
Corpses are dead people.
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>>112704380
People have feelings on dead people.
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>>112704264
The ghouls has to take the initiative as they are the threat.
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>>112704362
>>112704380
They're shells, the "people" are gone.
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>>112704073
>we need to wipe out all life on earth and replace it wth out enviromental system.
>what? i'm supposed to feel empathy for humans? why? they're just filthy animals. it is more important that we survive.
>alright, i guess we'll send a shipload of them towards jupiter. maybe they can survive there.
>ayy lmao
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>>112704401
Yes.
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>all these ghoul apologists
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>>112704407
No, dead people is still considered people. Do you want after your death, we just throw you into the dump.
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>>112704474
Fuck off CCG scum.
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>>112704407
If the dead aren't people then why do we call them dead people.

Checkmate Ghoul Apologists.

You faggots just want to sink your cock into Touka. You guys are literally the White Knights of Ghouls.
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>>112669069
Exterminate all ghouls they are bad guys. Don't listen those faggots, who wanted to be in their menu fuck them.
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>>112704411
>But the earth is theirs and if we go we would be intruding on their rights as the ghouls are doing on that planet.
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>>112704331
Genestealer cults are still human. What about their feeeeelings?
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>>112671080

Someone hasn't watch Mahouka
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>>112704492
People are strange, and wrong a lot of the time. Because they look like the person they once were, others assign value where there isn't really any besides their own feelings.

Fuck off man, Touka's hot.
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>>112704492
No anon, I'm neutral.
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Fuck this thread, fuck all these human apologists.
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>>112704557
They have no feelings, only hivemind.
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>>112704557
Burn the heretic
Kill the mutant
Purge the unclean
>>112704487
People like you are the reason the Heresy happened in the first place. CCG should make a special unit just for purging race traitor faggots like you.
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>>112704534
>but if we don't we are going to die. so sorry about that humans.

>caring about human troubles
>laughingaliens.png
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>claim all ghouls are evil
>there are ghouls LITERALLY IN HEAVEN RIGHT NOW

Checkmate, atheists.
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>>112704620
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>>112704658
Shit's Ghoul Propaganda.

>Only human fighting for mankind
>Ends up in hell
You ain't fooling me.
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>>112704613
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>>112704697
But Mado is happy, he can kill all the Ghouls in hell.
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>>112704650
>But we could find a different planet with our superior technology
>I think it's better we don't be like the fucking ghouls because we have a choice but the ghouls don't
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>>112704697
>fighting for mankind

Nah, he was fighting for his quinque fetish.
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>>112704697
This. The author is such a faggot. Based Mado is with Based Netero and Based Anderson and every other true protector of humanity in heaven.
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I don't understand your problem. If they want to eat us let them try.
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>>112704658
What can you do, the author is stupid.
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>>112704752
>Based Anderson
>My face when Anderson recognized Alucard as a human when he cried
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>>112704742
And for his daughter, and for his dead wife.
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>>112704752
Mado lost to two little girls, he is everything but based.
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The only true response.
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>>112704754
But there are race traitors who seem to think that we should care for the 1% of the ghouls when 99% of them kill humans.
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>>112704772
For sending Mado to where he belong/deserve, hell?
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>>112704772
>the author is stupid
>argue about morality within a fictional framework
>but suddenly the fictional framework doesn't matter anymore as soon as it's confirmed to have an objective judge of morality within that framework
>>
Did Ghouls try sucking cock, maybe semen is the only other thing they can enjoy.
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>>112704847
If it is justice it doesn't matter. Ghouls must die.
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>>112704897
Wrong, ghouls must be tenderly loved. CCG scum is the one that must die.
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>>112704740
>but the plot says we can't. it has to be earth. it is the ideal place for us to prosper.
>and we can't live with those bacteria ridden humans.
>sorry about that humans. you'll have to die for our sake.
>it is a necessity

>but be at ease, at least we feel sympathy for you. we're not like those dirty ccg blockhead anons
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>>112704836
He didn't deserve hell for protecting humanity.
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>>112704835
>Humans don't even care about their own people
>Now they want us to care about Monsters
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>>112704919
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>>112704934
He deserved hell for killing Hinami's parents.
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>>112704919
Fuck off ghoul. Go die already.
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>>112704934
he does deserve hell for eing a killer without a conscience
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Well IRL it'd be pretty difficult to sympathize with ghouls.

You'd think everyone would have had at least one friend killed by them.
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>>112704919
Ghouls will love your tender flesh.
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>>112704992
Unfortunately I'm human and I'm not planning in dying anytime soon.
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>muh revenge fags will never die
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>>112704920
>Good thing that there isn't anything specific to earth that we have to be here
>There are a lot of other planets that are the same as earth
>We better go to one of those that don't have humans
>Or better yet we could ask the humans to search it for us.
>We don't have to take anything that belong to the humans like ghouls do
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>>112705038
No, you are meal for ghouls.
>>
What is the point of all this retarded ayyy lmao greentext trash? Autists trying to understand basic morality?
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>>112704983
>>112704998
Those parent were a few seconds away from killing humans needlessly
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>>112705108
I thought Hinami and her parents didn't hunt humans.
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>>112705173
Stop trying to talk sense into dovetards.
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>>112705173
That's right, that why both were to heaven, but what did you expect from a Dove scum?
>>
So are the full raws for 140 out yet?
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>>112705229
Some faggot in Baidu had it but for some motive didn't post.
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Just from its natural death rate, Japan could support a population of about 100,000 ghouls.
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>>112705212
>>112705214
This is a bait.
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>>112705249
Nah, I think that guy just reposts things from other sites.
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>>112705229
Closest I've seen so far. Like >>112705249 said, it's been scanned but not posted.
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>>112705259
Japan would going to be extinct. if ghouls will be in charge.
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>>112705043
Revenge will never die.
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>>112705052
>nope, plot says it has to be earth.

well, we can do it differently too.

>the imperial army has decided they now own earth.
>sorry humans

or

>intergalactic creatures that eat civilizations in order to grow stronger and smarter come to visit earth.
>what? we are supposed to feel sorry for our food?

you know what all these have in common? it's "conflicting interests". how come you would feel for the humans but can't feel for anything else?
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>>112705493
Because their interests conflict with my own
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>>112705493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
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>>112696532
>actually, Witch Craft Works
CGI Medusa
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>>112705493
Then we could just be like in Aldnoah Zero where our autist will win the war for us.
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>>112705601
then why can't the ghoul autist win the war for ghouls?
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>>112705493
That's because the manga are trying to make us feel sympathy towards something or someone that doesn't have a choice while the examples you give seem like they could easily not do those things. If they do, there is no need for sympathy anymore, just go for war.
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>>112705673
Because the ghouls are evil. Duh.
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>>112705673
Ghouls are bad guys here, and they are going to die.
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>>112705673
He's not good with people so he doesn't fight them.
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>>112705673
Cause we have fucking Arima.
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>>112705723
>>112705704

CCG scum please, don't you guys have a investigator cock to suck?
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>>112706007
Low quality b8 m8.
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>>112705740
>>112705723
>>112705704

then how about a planet of the apes setting, except with chicken and cows?
who's the good and bad now?
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>>112706334
>who's the good and bad now?
The aggressors. Apes didn't need to eat humans but they where still assholes.
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>>112706334
The Autist.
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>>112706397
and what if chickens and cows kill humans for revenge?
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>>112706575
Is this a setting where chicken and cows are at the same intellect as humans but for some reason we still eat them?
They'd be wrong to go on murder spree other than killing the ones that killed their specific family or friends. When you take on murdering other people for the justice of people you never knew. It's not revenge anymore it's just murder.
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>>112706776
oh really?
tell that to mado.
hinami did nothing wrong
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Just found a rough version of chapter 118 on tumblr. It was a rush job and translated from the Chinese scans, so it's definitely not the best.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nxidxjyu1e1mkuc/AAD-3ahdEU6sLYlM2uNF7o8qa#/
As far as I know that group from tumblr, Cannighoul, is still working on 118, too. They haven't posted anything on their blog for a few days, though.
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>>112706776
>They'd be wrong to go on murder spree other than killing the ones that killed their specific family or friends. When you take on murdering other people for the justice of people you never knew. It's not revenge anymore it's just murder.
Just to be clear: this describes both sides.
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