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Why that Fakku thread was deleted? Here some translation comparison

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Why that Fakku thread was deleted?

Here some translation comparison
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>someone complained there was no Homonculus tank release by Taifu.

Taifu doesn't have rights over Wani's works, so they can't publish stuff from Homonculus.
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Why is Fakku's page so tiny?
Are they trying to tap the ant market?
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>>112312613
It's a preview image from the promo site.
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I guess I have to buy this. I love Homunculus even though I fucking hate Fakku.
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>>112312393
I notice last panel looks more detailed in Fakku screen. the scan is a bit blurry (technical issue I guess).
Also skin color is different, that's also technical issue.
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>>112312687
Then buy the Japanese book, duh.
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>>112312393
>chirr chirr
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>>112312645
I thought it was the original size.
Mosty because whoever edited the bubbles did a piss poor job fitting the text. Actually, typesetting is poor all around. In both pages, tough more so on Fakku's version.
Title looks nice, though.
Translation is an obvious rewording however.
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I can't wait for all this shit to get ripped. I'd never buy any though.

>>112312687
Just wait for a rip, why would you buy porn?
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>>112312687
fuckwit award in the post
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Is Fakku shit uncensored?
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>shitty typesetting
Nuke that shit.
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>>112312788
Uh, because thats illegal?
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>>112312393
Here's the raw page.
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>>112312829
Yes, apparently.
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>>112312778
Can you put the original next to the comparisons too? Or is that too much to ask?
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>>112312845

Hah.
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>>112312845

Have you got nothing better to do that try to shill your shitty website here?
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>>112312703
The scan has be processed (first scanned, then "adjusted" in Photoshop), whereas FAKKU has the source material.

Look at the clouds in the first panel as well. They're a solid white in the scan, but have a lot of details in the original version.
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>>112312393
>tiny pages
>bad translations
>washed out colors

Gentlemen.
I believe this is an attack on hentai.
They are trying to make us respond negatively to it.
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>>112312778
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>>112312845
Fuck off Jacob
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>>112312922
>doujin comic
>tits and words all over the screen
>this nigga be staring at the clouds
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>>112312926
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>>112312965
>doujin
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>>112312965
Not even about porn, honesty. It's about an inferior product making a superior product unavailable to us.
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>>112312788
>Just wait for a rip, why would you buy porn?

I like my Hentai in solid copies, got a problem with that, mate?
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>>112312393
Fuck off Jacob and the rest of your FAKKU shills, and thanks for ruining ex-hentai because of your greed.
If this is a FAKKU thread, then it's advertising. Pay Moot some Jewgold, you fucker.
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>>112312965
>doujin
holy fuck you faggots are as bad as the retards on fakku
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>>112312393
Shiononome a qt. Chitose a best tho
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>>112312998
Well, it's not that inferior.
Not to the original. But when they start doing other works translated and typeset by actually talented people, it'll become really apparent that Fakku isn't paying their staff enough.
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>>112312393
Is Fakku printing naked lolis yet like Jacob promised? I want to hand the story over quickly to CNN, Fox, child rights activists and feminists.
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>>112312393
These threads are unnecessary, please fuck off.
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>>112313027
With you funding a fewfaced liar that's profiting off of the work of others with absolutely no repercussion?

Yes, I do.
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This thread reeks of advertising, hopefully that is why the last thread got deleted.

>inb4 buhhh Fakku sample shit
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>>112313099
There is loli stuff on Fakku, yes.
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>>112312845
fuck off fakku shill
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>>112312862
Sorry I don't have raw and they deleted it from e-hentai but I see some anon covered that already.
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>>112312998
scanners should just buy better scanners (duh), so all the detail wouldn't be so blurry, and the same goes to translators who try to put more brightness to their translated pages.
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>>112313099
you're just gonna fuck us over too, there will be rips of fakku stuff but if they have to take it down we wont get those rips either
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Well too bad for you, I give no shit about that.
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>>112313171
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>>112313145
I meant physical copies in stacks. I wouldn't want him to be able to erase and/or hide evidence of "suspected CP" that may corrupt what otherwise would have been "outstanding future Americans".
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>>112313099
I knew the exhentai crowd was fucking retarded but this takes the cake
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>>112313226
Who cares about those rips, I just want the jew dead.
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>>112313145
>3 or 4 loli works on fakku
>THE SITE IS TOTALLY LOLI AND JACOB IS A LOLICON TOO GUISE HE IS OUR GREATEST ALLY
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>>112312998
How is it inferior? For the image quality (can't comment on translation), it's source material vs. scan. Again, look at things like the cloud, or the fact that the skin isn't orange.
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>>112313322
Wani did their part flawlessly, I won't deny that.
Fakku fucked up on multiple counts, however.
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>>112313239
There will always be a bunch of retards who won't know what to do with their money, or just want to be a contrarian. Fakku will get profit thanks to them.
Kill yourself.
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>>112313303
Confirmed idiot. Jews are controlling the medias, do you even think your plan would work?
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>>112313303
>who cares about hentai
Not retards from /pol/ apparently
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>>112313521
/a/'s hate on Fakku is personal, not really logical. It all comes down to "They're hindering my free porn so fuck them! They're destroying the industry while I'm helping it by pirating it!"

While I don't like it either, stop acting like you're the good guy here when everyone in here's just as shit as the other. Or a little bit shittier.
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>>112313257
>>112313320
>>112313403
>>112313472
>>112313611
That's it? Translation's trying too hard not to sound like the existing one and the typesetting is worse. Why'd they even bother?
Sure they don't have to redraw anything but still they could do better.
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>>112313559
/pol/ is the anti-jew
they control all 4chan boards
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Jesus christ, Fakku.
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>>112313648
original anon who replied to you.

I don't hate Fakku. But I do hate that this will turn out to be far more harmful to the h-book industry than piracy could ever be.
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>>112312393
ADVERTISING ON 4CHAN MUST BE PAID FOR. FUCK OFF JACOB.
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In 1 year no one will remember sadpanda
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>>112313745
>Comic sans

Stopped reading.
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>>112313826
Fakku's version is on the left.
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>>112313826
Nevermind that, I was confusing scans and though the bigger one was fakku's. Yeah, they're worse.
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>>112313790
Not the anon who was arguing with the other anon either. But yeah, of course. I was just pointing out that not buying it and pirating instead isn't any better either.
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>>112313745
>>112313677
>Expecting anything better from Fakku

You do know that the only real reason ever for licensing anything is to profit from it. Jewcob never cared about quality, he just does it for money.

And while people starts paying the jew for something we got for free before, said free things available are being destroyed.
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>>112313745
>Page 3
Is the rest relevant to typesetting?
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>>112313745
This remembers me the old days when all the text are in the same font.
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>>112313928
http://exhentai.org/g/274869/052c6b9d43/
Sure.
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>>112313677
>Translation's trying too hard not to sound like the existing one
Guess what? If two people translate the same line, it's going to be similar.

Compare any two subs with each other. A handful of lines will stand out (because one group either got it wrong, or they're Commie), but the majority will be the same.
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>>112313992
Will check this.
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>>112313790
Too bad that guy you responded to wasn't actually me.

The only thing that hurt H-book industry in Fakku is, actually, their scanlation section.

Fakku books is at the very least, more ethical than full fledged piracy. At least in my eyes.

(I do approve piracy at an extend though, if it permit to get an author to be know to a large public)

>>112313677
>Translation's trying too hard not to sound like the existing one
That's so retarded I'm even wondering if he is retarded or trolling.
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>>112313894
>pirating
It's only pirating if said pirates makes a profit(they don't).
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>>112314173

>woosh

Ok, this got me.
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>>112312393
Why is this thread still here? Mods anywhere?
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>>112314229
why wouldn't it be here?
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>>112314212
>I stole it!
>But I didn't sell it so I didn't steal it right?
Regardless of semantics, I don't think that still helps them in any way
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As a translator, the middle ones read like my usual output while the Fakku works is what it's going to read like after passing through a nice proofreader.
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>>112312393
>No way!?
>! in front of the ?
Did they put this through tumblr?
What garbage.
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>>112314212
Your definition of piracy is the definition of stealing, you idiot.
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>>112314312
piracy isn't stealing, as you don't get something that physical out of it.
Digital products are not limited, or cost anything to be made.
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>>112314273
It's a cleverly disguised Fakku advertisement.

"Oh look! Fakku's things are better!" the thread.

>>112314312
>I stole it!
No one stole anything. The raw providers paid for it and made digital scans that people copied.
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>>112314273
Because A, fakku is shit
B, fakku is actively trying to destroy all we know and love.

Fuck off, shills
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>>112314139
>Fakku books is at the very least, more ethical than full fledged piracy. At least in my eyes.

>At least in my eyes

Your eyes mean shit about contracts, ownership, culpability, and royalties.
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>>112314377
>or cost anything to be made
Sure they are
Time is money friend
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>>112314331
I don't know. Both sides have some weird phrasing at spots.
Like >>112313320
"...that suddenly appeared." Sounds odd. Feels like it's missing something.
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>>112314377
>Digital products are not limited, or cost anything to be made.
Digital products do cost when it first made but anything past will have no impact other than byte storage.
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>>112314331
The translation shouldn't be a point of argument here.

We're all just used to reading machine-like conversion of Japanese to English. Fakku is just making that proper grammar that goes with it into genuine casual English. It's not incorrect.

But retards gonna retard.
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>>112314400
>No one stole anything.
You did. You didn't pay for it when you should've.

>>112314377
So we're really down to semantics to defend the fact that we're, yet again, not paying, for anything here. And let's pretend that that helps the artist waaaaaay better than fakku does.
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>>112314466
I don't think we're reading the same pages.
Fakku's translation is on par with the older one.
They're both awkward at spots and neither is amazing.
There are better translators out there who would do a much better work.
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>>112314430
Well, I never said that it was perfect. It will always ends up for the consumers to decide which one is better. More competition leads to better choices for the consumer thus might (low chance but it's still there) lead to better quality.

>>112314466
Well, there are different kinds of retard/autist. Some are retard about other aspects but I'm OCD-ing for translations.
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>>112314514
I'm simply saying piracy isn't stealing.
I don't know what you're on about when trying to argue against that fact.

Oh well, not like you being wrong or not changes anything, I'll download the torrent of the fakku uncensored release, you feel free to actually get your money stolen by jewcob.
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Are we really arguing about miniscule translation difference of pages we only skim for 5-7 seconds because we're furiously fapping to it anyway?
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>>112314466
the only thing people are complaining is that they can't get it for free (or at least not in exhentai).
they have to support a shitty hentai site, with a shitty owner who knows shit about hentai as much as his fanbase.
as you said translations aren't the point here.
I only care about the wuality of the book itself, and of course the uncesonred pages, but it annoys me that this fag jacob is the only provider and probably wants to pose himself as the saviour of hentai.
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>>112314514
>You did. You didn't pay for it when you should've.
And why would I pay for it? It's not like I can actually pay for it, even when I do have the cash. Also why would I pay for something already paid for by someone else? Am I supposed to pay for a bottle of water a friend shared with me?
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>>112314611
>Well, I never said that it was perfect. It will always ends up for the consumers to decide which one is better. More competition leads to better choices for the consumer thus might (low chance but it's still there) lead to better quality.
That's all well and good, but Fakku completely stifled any and all competition.
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You all know there is much better stuff that Wani's hentai books, right?
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>>112314687
>>112314611
Yeah, there's being better translators, and then there's just flat out DMCAing everyone else.
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>>112314622
I'm not really arguing anything either. Just pointing out that pirating the mango isn't any better than fakku shilling it so people should stop acting like they're the knight all the h-artist will ever need.

>>112314651
Again, so stop acting like you're a good guy. If you are, that is. Accept that fakku is just as bad as what we've been doing so far.

Of course I'm still downloading it free too.
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Post your Jacob pictures. I need more
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what if tenboro (or joe) makes a deal with all chinese porn magazines?
would you buy from him?
obviously he won't upload it on exhentai (but others maybe). keep in mind that he will use other aliases.
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>>112314651
Can your friend clone that bottle and hand those duplicates out for free worldwide? If not, it's a pretty silly metaphor.
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Say if I buy in the fakku shilling system, download everything they have and then put a torrent up and advertise said torrent, would I be able to get away with that shit or will daiz be breathing down my neck?
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>>112314687
>Fakku completely stifled any and all competition
>>112314728
>there's just flat out DMCAing everyone else
There's no FuckingHorribleScans or something yet? Man, if CGRascal and his ilk can churn out shit, why not others?

Don't know about the shekel and jew talks but Crunchyroll and fansubs seem to be able to co-exist. Right?
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>>112314835
You'll have Daiz's cock up your ass, and Jewcob's second nose down your throat.

That's not a good way to die.

Or you'd get sued, I guess.
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>>112314835
Why wouldn't you want Daiz breathing down your neck? Being so close to him would finally allow you to wipe his head with brass polisher or something, at last.
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>>112314835
Daiz would probably not like it because he's a cunt. But it's not like nyaa's the only torrent tracker out there.
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>>112314719
>what is a collector?
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>>112314719

I've seen a few localized books from other places and countries, many are either worthless smut shit or just shit.
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>>112314229
Because I made it to compare translation and earn some good shekels silly goyim.
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>>112314759
>Again, so stop acting like you're a good guy.

If you cannot answer as to why I must pay for a bottle of water a friend shared with me, please don't reply at all.

>>112314799
>Can your friend clone that bottle and hand those duplicates out for free worldwide?
He can fill two or three bottles of water(that he is paying for) and share it with me when we go hiking.

No matter the magnitude, the act's the same. There's nothing illegal with sharing. And that's what scalation is all about.
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>>112312393
What's "Rmls of Bikini" supposed to mean?
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>>112314835

>Implying Daiz isn't already coming for you in his Daizmobile right now
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>>112314911
A MISERABLE PILE OF PORN BOOKS!

BUT ENOUGH TALK! HAVE AT YOU!
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>>112314992
This one was the hottest of that tank.
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>>112315020
Fuck. What do I do?
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>>112314992
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>>112314649
The thing is, Jewcob ISN'T the only provider of the product. It's just that a lot of people in this thread are that short-sighted.

Only ILLEGAL COPYING and unauthorized translated works are being C&D'd. That has no bearing whatsoever on the legit, legal potential of distribution of sanctioned translations.

Fakku is the only game in town far as legit branches are concerned because they are the only business around, not because they're strong-arming the illegal side of the business.

The solution is complex, but not impossible: buy it straight from Japan, or find out what you need to do to infest your own arm into official translated h-books (which, iirc, were already getting legit translations. Unless funi/right stuf is running illegal book scans?)
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>>112315026
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Well, I was expecting worse.
10 bucks for a Tank and 4 bucks for a 25 page doujin is acceptable.

Now just release some actually untranslated stuff.
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>>112315104
TL;DR pay the middleman
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>>112315104
what other published gives uncensored stuff?
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>>112313080
that's not Alice
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>>112314992
This one is just fucked. In trying to sound different, Fakku's translation actually fucked up the meaning.
"Can't they just go home already...?"
One of the "they" is his sister. She fucking is home.
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>>112315012
It's R?l? of Bikini. Probably a value derived from a bikini using the formula R?l?. After all, the character mentions that about her thesis/research or something,
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>>112312393
The left looks like shit.
Just Fakku being Fakku, i.e., shit.
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>>112315010
Why would I answer it? Does it actually help the h-artist, which is by the way, the point of this reply chain, and not your metaphor.

Still, you don't have to pay for it. But sharing water bottles doesn't help the company that makes it. And you can actually share this 'water bottle' to EVERYONE and make EVERYONE not buy from the maker instead.
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>>112315161
I think project H does uncensored stuff but I never bought from them to check that (tender heart doesn't count, it's censored by the author himself).
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Fuck translations. I'm still fapping to what I can fap to.
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>>112315299
>??
>fan translators: that
>Fakku: this

Uh, isn't "that" correct? Or is the right supposed to be the fan translation.
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>>112315010
>No matter the magnitude
Except that's kinda the main thing here. Call it "sharing" if you want, but when you "share" and unlimited supply of something with everyone on the internet, that's when it turns into an issue.

The water can only be consumed ones, so no one cares what your friend does with if after the company has been payed. If these image files could only be opened once and would then self-destroy, the publishers wouldn't care about you sharing them.
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>>112315223
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>>112315241
>project-h
isn't this the same team that has hambeasts and niggers=
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>>112315368
Again, Fakku is on the left, and yes, "that" is right.
>>112315189 This isn't, though.
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>>112315189
>One of the "they" is his sister. She fucking is home.
Maybe you should read the chapter.
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>>112315384
that's why exhentai should have had som sort of privileges acces.
it would kill the "fom fans for fans" but that's what fakku did too when they sent that mail to tenboro.
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>>112315206
>moving goalposts.

>Does it actually help the h-artist... But sharing water bottles doesn't help the company that makes it.

The raw-provider has paid for the manga and sharing it increases the public's awareness about said product and author which also increase potential buyers. That's actual help. You cannot do anything about people who cannot, would not and/or will not pay for said content.

>>112315384
>but when you "share" and unlimited supply of something with everyone on the internet, that's when it turns into an issue.
Why would it be an issue? It's not like it will affect sales. Anyone who can buy the book will choose to buy it instead unless something is preventing the customers from buying.
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>>112315551
They are in their own right to actually not want their stuff ripped and put in exhentai.

Cry if you want, but the facts are what they are.
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>>112315620

He needs to spend less time being a retard on twitter and adding pointless pages to his site and actually implement uploading/downloading, holy shit
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>>112315629
>They are in their own right to actually not want their stuff ripped and put in exhentai.
Sure wish the artist had some say in this.
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>>112315620
based
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>>112315720

"Yes, please allow them to continue stealing my work when a legal alternative is now available." - No artist ever, 2014
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>>112315629
this is what that faggot was complaining in the first place years ago when he created fakku
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>>112315693
http://blog.nhentai.net/post/94696021321/august-update
Apparently they're coming soon.
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>>112315781

They were coming soon a month ago too.
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>>112315720
Exhentai would be shut down immediately.
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>>112315189
Why don't you stop making an ass of yourself trying to pretend you even know what you're talking about?

He lives on his own, moron. They say that in the next page.

>>112315532
>This isn't, though.

Yes it is.
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>>112315761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qkyt1wXNlI
Well, then.
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>it increases the public's awareness about said product and author which also increase potential buyers
Ah that old argument pirates still use and wholeheartedly believe. Because, you know, as long as I'm 'advertising' it, it doesn't matter if I stole it. Or regardless of the fact that the said advertisement isn't really going to make me buy it, because as you've said earlier, I'm not going to pay for it even if I had the money.

Anyway, this argument isn't going anywhere. We're both not paying anyway. Just stop acting like you're better than fakku.
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>>112312613
It's a preview from the store page. The raws FAKKU get are like 10000px tall, and the JP text and censoring are separate layers that can be turned off.

Jacob sent me a scaled down textless version of the OP page a while back as a sample, I'm not going to post the whole page but here's a cropped sample of it.
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>>112315160
Actually get it straight from the horse's mouth instead of relying on lolternet
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>>112315620
Says the guy with almost no Wani content...
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>>112315620
Based.
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>>112315864
Tell Jacob to tell his typesetter to learn how to do their job because they're fucking it up really badly.
The raws are big enough that you don't have to make the text so massive that it nearly touches the bubble edges.
And tell them to use better, slightly thinner fonts too.
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>>112315781
Now to address the elephant in the room: downloads. We’re working on it. We are trying to come up with a solution that will allow people to download things without using something fucking stupid like a points system or shitty custom software you have to run on your computer. We have put something together but are still testing it/making decisions, but downloads will be available.

If this is real then holy shit it will be the dawn of a new era.
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>>112315576
>Anyone who can buy the book will choose to buy it instead

This is hilariously naive.
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>>112315975
>forgot my meme arrow
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Daily reminder that based homunculus delivered
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>>112315864
Dayum
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>>112315984
>This is hilariously naive.
There's a reason why we have raw providers, anon. Sources are sources after all.
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>>112315620
Maou is the hero we need that delivers the resized gallery from the deadpanda.
;_;
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>>112315984
Because everyone is torrenting games and no one is buying from steam right? Pirating games is available to everyone so EVERYONE is doing it and no profit is to be had from pc gaming
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>>112315975
if you want to stand out like another alternative to exhentai then talk to tenboro to give you all the stuff he deleted and maybe people will cheer for you and your shitty site.
and stop being a reddit faggot.
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>>112315576
I just joined in when you brought up your stupid water bottle comparison. I'm mainly trying to tell you that sharing a bottle of water with your friend isn't the same as putting a copy of something on the internet.

You can keep telling yourself that piracy doesn't hurt anyone, but you can't deny the fact that it gets the attention of copyright holders.
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In other Wani news, it looks like some Chinese site leaked, there are raws for Kairakuten 9, Kairakuten Beast 9, Kairakuten XTC 4, Shitsurakuten 9, and X-EROS 21 up on Nyaa. Was not expecting to wake up to that
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>>112316065
>There's a reason why we have raw providers, anon.

Because nearly all pirated materials have to be bought at least ONCE for that guy to make them available. You're not seriously claiming this means every single person who can easily pirate the content would shell out the cash instead given the opportunity.

This is moronic.
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>implying I don't sometimes buy my pirated shit
>implying total pirated downloads == totals sales, fucking morons
>implying buying porn
>implying I will ever pay for translated ero manga or doujinshi when I can just import that shit and never soil it
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>>112316145
>thinking 10b will ever agree to this in a million years
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>>112316178
there is always other alternatives.
the problem is that we want it on exhentai.
its a bit selfish but please understand muh porn
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>>112316109
This is exactly as shitty an argument as the counter that everyone who pirates is a lost buyer. A good way to make sure you're wrong is to state something in absolutes.

Saying that everyone who pirated the product would have bought it if they hadn't had the option to pirate it is obviously a flawed argument, but you're flipping it the other way and claiming everyone who has a choice between pirating and buying will buy instead. As if "being cheap" weren't a thing. You're the exact same brand of laughably fallacious, just arguing for the other side.
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>>112316257
and why would he not?
he still uploads doujinshi, cg games and cg artists.
nhentai only uploads manga and doujin all in english as far as I know.
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>>112316190
>You're not seriously claiming this means every single person who can easily pirate the content would shell out the cash instead given the opportunity.

Why not? Do you seriously claim everyone in Japan pirates their stuff? Aren't you ignoring the fact that, even though publishers are complaining, they still do profit?
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>>112315162
This guy knows.
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Anyone able to view "The Job of a Committee Member"? Both parts are hidden due to DMCA in America, and they're both gone from exhentai.
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>>112315952
>The raws are big enough
You can't zoom a physical copy though. Pulling up a random Wani book on Amazon, they're kinda small (I assume this is standard size): 20.8 x 15 x 2.4 cm
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>>112316412
it's still on fakku I think, last time I hecked it was still there.
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>>112316380
See >>112316314

"Anyone who can buy it will do so" is exactly as stupid as "Everyone who pirated would have bought it" for much the same reasons, just inverted. You're as silly as the people you argue against, and I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince you, since you're either trolling, or in some stupid delusional tirade.
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As much as I hate Fakku, I actually pre-ordered Renai Sample.
Hate all you want, but I enjoy Homunculus's art and if it does goes towards the artist, good.
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You know, even if you were to buy the same stuff from Japan, you'd still be paying a middleman in the form of Wani, not handing money directly to the artist's bank account.

So if even a single middleman is supposedly one too many, then you pretty much couldn't buy anything at all unless you personally bought a doujin product straight from the artist at Comiket.

Setting your bar that high as a non-Japanese person is basically just an excuse to never pay for anything at all. If that's what you want, the least you could do is be honest about it and admit that you just don't want to pay for any stuff you might enjoy.
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>>112316490
Fuck off.
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>>112316465
How small are the physical versions?
Don't tell me they're printed on A5 toilet paper, for fuck's sake.
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>>112316502
If I can get stuff for free I'll get it and not a single shekel will go in your middleman pocket

Thread's over. Go home
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>>112316380
So... nobody on earth is cheap and absolutely every single person with the ability to pirate AND buy will chose to buy every single time? You're crazy.
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>>112315162
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>>112316510
I'm not a faggot who doesn't buy shit.
So fuck off.
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>>112316490
>if it does goes towards the artist, good.
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>>112316490
>>112316578
It doesn't go towards the artist, it goes to the publisher. ShindoL already said so. Good job being part of the problem.
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>>112316545
then you are an asshole for not supporting the artist.
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>>112316502
I'd rather send money through mail to the artist than pay Fakku.
At least the post office isn't a fucking traitorous vampire.
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>>112316478
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>>112316600
>ShindoL already said so
Where?
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>>112315864
>>112315864
Okay this is important Daiz. Can you ask the jew if the released version from FAKKU will keep the 10000 px resolution? This might make me buy it.

I want to be ready for 4K displays with my porn if you catch my drift.
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Which one is supposed to be better?
they're both ok
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>>112316587
The artists do get their share, though. So does FAKKU. Providing a service and publishing books isn't free business. You gotta profit if you want to stick around.
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>>112316632

They contacted him over the situation with Wani.

He should know, with all his Wani books ready to be translated.

Oh, wait.
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>>112316469
They're up there, but as I said they're blocked for me.
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>>112316629
It's cute trying to see grasp for things that don't really help your argument in any way.
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>>112316502
the problem is
>fakku/jacob
noone here likes them.
fakku books will be leaked anyway.
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>>112316681
FUCK OFF YOU MURDERER. Give me sadpanda back
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>>112316478
>both are stupid
>I'm not wasting my time...

So much damage control.

>>112316551
>every single person with the ability to pirate AND buy will chose to buy every single time?

Not always, but most of the time, yes. People do want physical copies, this is a fact. It's the reason why publishing companies still makes profit.
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ITT: Circlejerking and retardation

>captcha: defited purpose
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>>112316600
that's because Shindol hasn't publushed anything under fakku yet.
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WTF guys, Jacob is not the bad guy. He actually want to save the doujin industry..
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>>112316600
Just like when you buy a magazine from a store the money goes to the store who pays to the publisher. So basically you can never pay for anything.
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>>112316683
>They contacted him over the situation with Wani.

About the takedown from eHentai, you fucking moron. Which he knew nothing about because, no shit, why would he? He's not even one of the artists Fakku will publish.

Show me where the hell he said anything about artists not getting paid. Better yet, show me where he explains how he knows the terms of a deal he's not involved in.
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>>112316532
Like I said, 20.8 x 15 x 2.4 cm is what's listed on Japanese Amazon. According to Google, that is indeed A5 size.

As for the paper quality, it's supposed to be high quality (or at least matching the Japanese version). As far as I know, "toilet paper" is usually used for magazines, which is probably why they're so much cheaper, and then they use better paper for the tanks.
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>>112316778
Jacob pls go
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>>112316778
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>>112316502
I don't mind paying a middleman as long as he isn't a fucking piece of shit.
The problem if Fakku and the fucks who run it.
Is it really that hard to understand that if you piss off your target audience, they might not be so willing to give you money?
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>>112316654
The download options aren't locked in stone yet, but you can probably expect to be able to download it in multiple resolutions. My personal opinion is that x4000 as the highest option should be enough for now (since it should be high enough to require downscaling even on pivot 4K screens), and that would also leave room for future expansion (like going up to 8K eventually).
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>>112316778
>doujin
why do you retards always make things worse?
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>>112316804

You just shouted at me for saying your exact same things.
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>>112316681
It used to be. Now it isn't. Fancy that.
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>>112316826
So it all comes down to just buying the boogieman bullshit?
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>>112316799
As soon as it has a publisher the best you can do is hope they get a decent percentage. Doujins are better for them of course.
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>>112316891
>Pissing off fanbase
>boogieman bullshit

Do you enjoy anal?
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how does fakku even manage to exist

how are there people that actually pay for it?
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>>112316880
>It used to be.

When the hell have you ever heard of a publisher doing shit for free?
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>>112315864
>>112316839
oh boy I'm reall waiting for it to be torrented already
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>>112316826
So you are only a bit butthurt.

That's cute
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>>112316930
So what pissed off "the fanbase" exactly?
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>>112316809
Are you serious? Who would pay 20 bucks for that? You can't even see the artwork properly when it's that small.
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>>112316955
If j-list can exist then fakku can too
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>>112316880
>I can't get things for free!
>You're ruining it for everyone
I'm sorry, but you sound like a fucking faggot.
I'm sure if given the option to pay the artist directly you wouldn't even throw a shekle
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>>112317002
>Are you serious? Who would pay 20 bucks for that?

The Japanese.
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>>112317003
JList sells physical goods. Fakku just paywalls digital content.
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>>112316880
>It used to be.

Doing things illegally and doing things legally are a whole different thing.

And the thing, only the legal way is going to get you access to stuff like what's mentioned in >>112315864 - you're never going to those kinds of sources illegally. Illegal options will always have a quality cap since they can basically only work off of consumer products, whereas with legal options the only limit is the actual source quality.
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>>112317002
you have never bought a tankoubon? not even a non-h tank?
holy shit.
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>>112316930

Except he didn't piss off fakku, nor did he piss off the mainstream, normal very casual hentai readers. He pissed off you. You are into insect double anal, you are clearly not the demographic.
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SOON

minus my shitty editing
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>>112316930
>fanbase
>a bunch of faggots that pirate
Nah son, but you sure are a faggot
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>>112316960
Just saying, there are tons of translators doing that shit for free.
Sure, they don't sell you a tiny book with their shit, but they don't have to because who the fuck would want it?
Do you know how annoying it is to fap to paper?
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>>112317042
not him, but if given the chance I surely would do.
just give me their bank account numbers and I will happily give them money to show them my support for giving me the porn I love.
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>>112316999
/a/ thinks Jacob told Wani about sekrit club, because it's super secret and Japan doesn't know it exists.
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>>112317002
Wait, do you believe your mangos are printed in newspaper-sized laminated paper with fancy hardcovers in glorious Nihon? Pretty much fucking everything gets printed at that size.
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>>112317066
That's all well and good, but seriously tell Jacob that his typesetters suck.
Seriously, it's pathetic.
At the very least tell him to make the digital version different if legibility is that much of an issue in print.
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>>112317108
>>112316999
>>112317076

P-Please daiz, monopolize everything and charge 500 shekels for a preview. I'm sure I'm helping the industry.

Pirating is better, that being jewed out of free stuff thanks to one jew who decided to monopolize everything
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>>112317109
So you're just whining because they're trying to go legit and it personally bothers your wallet?
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>>112317143
after the first dmca complaints, the only way to see wani stuff was posting in the forum, etc.
of course /a/ spoonfeedin faggots would tell everyone.
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Personally, I like this Fakku situation.
Now I won't feel like a dick for pirating shit.
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>>112317002
Get a load of that faggot
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So, what's stopping reverse importers?

What's stopping me from reverse-reverse translating it?
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>>112317213
You know, I'm a pirate myself, but at least I don't delude myself into thinking there really is a giant source of free stuff for my convenience and that I'm entitled to it.

I'm stealing, but at the very fucking least I don't try to pretend I'm not and that I actually deserve this bullshit. You're retarded.
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>>112314771
What does his family think about their son running a porn site?
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>>112317094
Why did you fuck with the colors? They're digital raws, the original colors are exactly what the artist intended them to be.
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>>112317278
Nothing. I'm sure the japs will have it covered, though.
I wonder what will happen now that they have to get scanlation teams of their own.
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>>112317336

They know and it's fine

>Still better than sadpanda
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>>112317330
I not pretending I'm not pirating. I know I'm stealing you mongoloid, but if something was free and someone takes away that free thing, I consider that someone who took free thing away an asshole
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>>112317213
>I can pirate whatever I want!
>You can't do this to me, I deserve to be able to pirate things
Just stop
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>>112312845
>Uh, because thats illegal?
Nice joke.
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>>112317353
nothing is better than sadpanda
go suck dicks somewhere else
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>>112317406
Say that again when torrenting anime won't be possible and you'll have to pay 20 dollars per episode
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>>112317189
>At the very least tell him to make the digital version different
I'm sure you wouldn't mind paying $20 for that version in that case if you want the editor to do the same job twice.

Oh wait, you want them to do that and cut the price in half before you buy it.
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>>112317278
Nothing really, you can sometimes see stuff like that happening with anime that's licensed in the US since it's much cheaper than buying the volumes there.
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>>112317330
This.

>>112317396
Except he permits you to legalize your position.
fell free to be a fag and not buy, but do not complain if all the stuff you wanna pirate get removed, you only make yourself even more of a retard.
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Where were you when this man starts his own business?
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>>112317353
The only things bad about the panda were the retarded point system and limiting downloads.
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Can't Fakku make digital version (lower resolution around 1500 pixels tall) free to all users and charge just for physical copy and higher res from digitals?
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Am I the only one who feels absolutely no remorse whatsoever for pirating? Why should I give a fuck about supporting the artists? I don't WANT to support them, because it warps the market. I'd rather be able to continue appreciating them from a distance. The most I'd do is donate directly.
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Holy fuck this thread is worse than the commie defense force
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>>112317445
That's hilarious.
I probably won't mind, it's a shame I won't have anything for the season, but having more than 10TB of anime will last my lifetime.
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torrent when
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>>112317497
Then why does anybody think this will last for very long? Wani's going to see their profit margins in Japan plummet because everybody is reverse-importing from America. This sorta thing happened with Bible Black and that's what caused them to flip out and cancel the deal.
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>>112317495
I just want them to do their fucking job right if they expect me to pay for their shit. And it's not necessary to "do the same job twice". Resizing the speech text takes all of one second.
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>>112317189
I'll reserve judgment until I see the actual works. Those preview samples may not reflect the actual product if they were typeset separately and at the tiny size they're available at in the pre-order page.

Anyway, YQII is one of the scanlators that's now working for FAKKU, so you could also look at his other works to get an idea of what to expect.

http://yqii.fakku.net/
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gonna hoard hentai tankobons for when 2020 happens.
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>>112317278
>So, what's stopping reverse importers?

Nothing, but that's probably one reason why FAKKU can only publish stuff in English with the Wani contract.
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>>112317621

YQII is a good translator but many of the typesetters around him averaged from okay to shit-tier.
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Goddamn I thought I had become jaded from years of dealing with trolls but this whole jew thing always makes me extremely depressed.
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>>112317345
That anon edit looks little better in my opinion, either way it's fine since quality is fantastic.
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>>112312845

2D loli is illegal in my country. You really think I give a shit?
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>>112317678
It's not like that stops people from reverse-translating. Hell, any of the current English scanlation teams could do it to whore out their e-cred to Japs.
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>>112317621
That's the thing, YQII has never had good typesetting. They have some real idiots working for them.
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>>112317758
>It's not like that stops people from reverse-translating.

That's what he just said.
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>>112317758

Got bigger fish to fry than ride fakku books coattails, sorry.
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>>112317278
>So, what's stopping reverse importers?
Uncensored porn is illegal, but if you wanna take that risk, nothing.

>What's stopping me from reverse-reverse translating it?
Translation of a translation. If you don't care about quality, time; even the most active scanlator groups put out like 3 releases a week, meaning it would take about a month to do a tank.

I guess if you're a NEET who has the money to import, go for it.
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>>112317776

>They

He's just one guy, who asked around if people were willing to help him.
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>>112317539
Use DLsite if you really want to support the artists. Fuck wani for taking down stuff they never intended to market to the west in the first place (loli, shota, scat).
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>>112317278
Japanese absolutely cannot into English.
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>>112317598

I don't see why reverse-importing would be a problem in this case. Fakku's version is actually more expensive than the original($19.95 vs ?1,188) and Wani is getting paid either way.
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So, have we gotten a list of what specific artists were taken down yet?
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>>112312393
''rule'' written like that is RMLS in Greek
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>>112317998

Literally all of the ones associated with Wani, even names who did one oneshot in 2006.
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>>112317693
>>112317776
Who would you rather edit ou- Fakku's manga, goy- I mean anon?
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>>112317776
I'd call his typesetting passable (even for commercial work), which is okay in my books if the page quality itself is superb, which it is.

Anyway, FAKKU should be hiring more typesetters in the nearby future, and more staff in general too. And I'm sure constructive criticism of typesetting quality and such will not fall on deaf ears either. Screaming "WOW THAT IS SO SHIT HOW DARE YOU" very well might, though.
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>>112317330
I think there's a very definite generational gap at work here.

When a piracy hug goes down or becomes crippled, my usual reaction is "Welp, too bad. Time to find alternate channels/go back to IRC". Yet as I watch these guys every time something like Megaupload or the eHentai purge happens, not only do they go batshit insane with doomsday predictions, they act genuinely outraged as if they believed they had a God-given right to the shit.

The idea of bitching about publishers cutting off one of my sources would never occur to me. Partly because I never deluded myself into thinking they didn't have the right to do so, and partly because that shit has never, ever stopped me from finding crap elsewhere.
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This is the threadly reminder to leak the shit out of Fakku siterips, once Jacob releases more Wani manga.

Hurt him where it hurts the most: Money.
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>>112318071
The entire list on fakku's website? jesus
what about that latuffi guy trying to take down doujinshi?
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>>112317531
I'm sure Wani wouldn't mind them giving away their stuff for free. Also, 1500 isn't really small, seeing how the standard has been 1600 for the longest time.
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>>112317998
It's not artist-based, it's all about the publisher.
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Here last pics - NSFW.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/q4j1wb
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First they came for the /d/ material, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a /d/ fag.
Then they came for the animal ears/tails, and I did not speak out—
Because I did not like animals.
Then they came for the violent sex, and I did not speak out—
Because I did not like violent sex.

Then they came for vanilla—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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>>112318096
>Anyway, FAKKU should be hiring more typesetters in the nearby future, and more staff in general too. And I'm sure constructive criticism of typesetting quality and such will not fall on deaf ears either. Screaming "WOW THAT IS SO SHIT HOW DARE YOU" very well might, though.

I just hope they don't get whoever it was that kept TRYING to make every OTHER word stand out IN bold like and American COMIC. That SHIT was super ANNOYING, especially SINCE he didn't EVEN seem to get IT right.
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>>112318097
>irc
I only recall using pant.su, hentaiknight and deadfrog. I don't even think little butterflies existed back then.

It sucked.
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>>112318096
If Jacob has ever been on 4chan, he will know that that is how we provide feedback. You massive fucking faggot.
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>>112318096
It's really not great, though. I'll reserve judgement for the fucksounds, but if they have no thought put into them and he just used Mouth Breather, I'm out.
Fuck that. Just fuck that. Artists take time drawing that shit.
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>>112318185
Hooo, boy, you're making me feel old. I'm talking before the hentai scanlation scene even existed as such.
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>>112318174
Anyway, why do American comics do that? Do they think their readers aren't enough clever to realize which are the key words?
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>>112318199
I've been on 4chan for years, but I will always listen more closely to reasonably worded constructive criticism compared to angry shouting with little to no actual content.
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>>112317998
Wani doesn't own artists.
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Aren't best editors on ex-hentai doing only lolicon?
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>HF bans loli
its ogre
all is lost
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>>112318096
>And I'm sure constructive criticism of typesetting quality and such will not fall on deaf ears either.

For fuck's sake, you were in the goddamn thread yourself.
He doesn't listen, his mind blanks out any sort of criticism. And when he gets caught out of position, he tries to weasel his way out instead of admitting he was wrong.
If you hadn't been in the thread and spelt out word by word what he could have easily said himself, the whole thing would have imploded on him even worse than it already did.
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>>112317264
>of course /a/ spoonfeedin faggots would tell everyone.

>muh sikresy
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>>112318353
When did that happen?
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So say if I translated something published by Wani, does that mean all of my work went to waste?
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>>112318236
One thing to remember with legit stuff is that you need to actually license fonts for it. In my eye it's certainly worth it to shell out some money to have font variation, but there's a limit to how much you can pay for as well.
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>>112318422
Today.
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>>112318428
Just post it somewhere that's not EX.
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>>112318442
Y-you do realize there are a lot of free and open source fonts right?
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>>112318442

The best fonts are all cheap.
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>>112318442
There are hundreds of good, free fonts out there, there's no excuse.
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>>112318463
Link?
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>>112318428
Yes. Exhentai is the final frontier of file sharing on the internet.
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>>112318472
Sure there are, but for comics, though? Bear in mind that just because you can download something legally for free doesn't mean you could necessarily use it for free in a commercial work.
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>>112318097

Eh, I think it's just people having a good time. Overreacting to news and running around like a chicken with your head cut off yelling "OH GOD ITS OVER SHUT IT ALL DOWN" is fun and exciting.
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>>112318507
Google
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>>112318507
The main webpage? Don't be a shit.
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>Fakku is keeping the honorifics

Silly me, I thought they might try to be somewhat professional.
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>>112318519
I know that google at least has some nice comic fonts that are free for commercial use. I used them for something I was publishing a while back.
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>>112318537
As sad as it is, leaving them out would likely result in a bigger shitstorm than leaving them in, so really, it's the path of least resistance.
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>>112318428
Yes, of course. It's not like there are other places to host copyrighted material in the INTERNET.
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>>112318537
>keeping honorifics
>not professional

To be fair, official manga translations use plenty of honorifics these days.
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>>112317729
It might look better, but the original's colors are as the author intended. Don't go changing it.
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>>112318537
I bet when they hire new translators, they won't even try to keep it consistent and you'll have tanks with chapters translated by different individuals, some with honorifics, some without.
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>>112318395
"Let's kill Jacob" threads on 4chan probably isn't the best forum for criticism. Buy a book and post in the super special forum
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>Daiz
>he defends monopolies for free
>he does it for free

why aren't you a janitor/mod? you are already halfway there for qualifications.
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>>112318628
What are translation guidelines?

Anyway, there's really no reason to start painting demons on the walls at this point, especially when nothing has actually been released yet.
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>>112312687

I know what you mean, I've been wondering all day if I'm going to buy this or not. I know I can just wait for the rip of the digital copy but I like to have physical copies of books I really like. Renai Sample's art is really nice so... I'm not sure. If they release some Karma Tatsurou or Royal Koyanagi I can tell you right now that I'll buy them without a moment's hesitation.
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>x calls y as y-san
>development happens to x and y
>x now calls y simply y
>y notices and calls x for it
>leave the -san out because of muh localization
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>>112318613
>Implying the nips know a thing about art
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>>112318644
He already tried to kill /a/, you want to help him do that for real?
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>There is two millions six hundred thousands thirty nine free shouting fonts
>Tech picks Sergeant Sixpack

How the fuck did that even happen
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>>112318442
Aren't most of even fancy fonts around $200?

You get whole font family for that price and since you gonna make a lot of cash it's not much even when buying few licensed products.
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>>112318528
>>112318535
Can't see shit captain.
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>>112318537
>wanting to get rid of honorifics in manga
I can understand removing them from anime subs but I really don't want to see forced "Mr." in my fap material.
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>>112318733

No, you can build a perfectly viable, versatile, pleasant-to-the-eye set of free fonts.
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>>112318576
>>112318608

It's a matter of preference and really, seeing them in fantranslations has never bothered me, I just never really see them in professional translations and I don't use them myself because they don't sound right in English.
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>>112318703
Let's not make this a honorifics shitposting thread, okay?

The optimal solution would obviously be to provide both, but sadly you can't exactly do that in print and there's not really any convenient means to do it with digital stuff either that wouldn't involve a lot of manual extra work (thus it wouldn't be worth it).
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>>112318730
It looked good when I was drunk...
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>>112315864
isn't this better than even getting the magazines raws in terms of quality.

It would be nice if I could be sure of the share the artist get, I know you have mentioned about it before in threads but I'm skeptical because of /a/nons, Not that I know a way to prove that the artists get decent support from this.

Also I would be in huge support of this going jp too, Japanese users should be able to get in on this.
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>>112318628
>you'll have tanks with chapters translated by different individuals, some with honorifics, some without.
Or they'll have two people working on two books instead of one. Also >>112318675
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>>112318787
If you have any suggestions, then feel free to share them - I'm sure they would be much appreciated. Just make sure the fonts are free to use commercially too.
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>>112315864
Hey Daiz

will the fakku raws still maintain the screen tones?

weird I know but as porn enthusiast reading a manga without screen tone is very unnatural and looks blurry to me...
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>>112318635
I will probably buy that shit. I mean: Uncensored post-2013 Wani releases?
Holy shit, this is the best thing to happen to hentai for a while.

But at the same time he acts like a fucking autist and is a hypocrite at the same time.
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What benefit is there to me buying fakku shit when I already pay for the shit from tora/melon and I don't care for translation.
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pururin + nhentai = I dont' need more
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>>112318828
>It would be nice if I could be sure of the share the artist get

Unfortunately the exact numbers are basically always confidential information.

But seriously, the people on /a/ claiming artists get nothing know basically nothing, whereas the people saying they do get their share (FAKKU) actually do. And just FAKKU will be in the business of making money doesn't mean they would be evil.
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>>112319022

Blissfully ignorant
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>>112319005
Nothing, it's just for the normalfag target audience that might think it's 'cool' to buy something, it's one step up from the CR target group.
It's not even for /a/.
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>>112318898
>will the fakku raws still maintain the screen tones?

If they're right there in the original art, they damn well should.

>>112319005
Well, FAKKU stuff will be uncensored whereas JP imports won't.
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>>112318828
>Japanese users should be able to get in on this.
The problem is these books are illegal in Japan, because of the lack of censorship.
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>>112315620
Independent appeals for allowing a lolicon doujin is too much work. Goddamit. I tried.
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>>112319023
Jesus christ, you don't even know how the dividends work.
Yes, if it's fully legalized and licensed, they get a share, on the scale from 'getting a cut' and 'not getting a cut', a below 5% cut, doesn't matter enough to be a counter argument, you retarded drone mongoloid.
You're nothing but a drone, if you think people care about you and your opinion more these days, you're retarded.
>Why am I getting hate comments
>Oh, why am I getting even more hate comments now
>B-but I'm a good guy!
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>>112316502
Good job displaying you've never been to the ground floor of a market, mate. If I want a product, and I want an artisan to keep making that product, we're going to make a trade, regardless of whatever logic of "Middle Man Importance" you've been raised on. That model is dying and the cancer of its practices is now fully-visible even to the lowest common denominator consumer.

You sound like someone who has never ordered a case of their favorite pop straight from the factory. Keep supporting the convenience stores if you want. I'll take my milk straight from the cow, even if that means, oh heavens me, taking effort to learn a language as to open negotiation directly to the author and ensure they nor I am getting jew'd.
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>>112313080
>fiance
So, a trap?
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>>112318828
If you make a Japanese side site that would be great, the elevens are our tomo yos .
>>112319072
Ah yeah, seems a shame they won't get in on such high quality releases, crunchyroll do that manga streaming but its terrible quality and not friendly at all.

I wish I had the time to set up a site and try to set up a deal to get hi quality raws for a manga hosting site, it would be nice to contribute to the longevity of a manga serial, so many times I have seen a series I have loved get discontinued and not been able to support it by way of those little review cards that you have to post in.
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>>112319201

Yes, when he jumped her his dick got stuck inside her, and it became a part of her body.
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>>112319005
The same benefits there is for me to buy gas when I don't own a car: very small. Know what? We're probably not the target audience.
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Guess who got hired for eroge?
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>>112315241

They do uncensored stuff when they can get it from the publishers. More often than not though they've only got censored material to work with.

>>112315468

I don't know anything about the team except that they've got poor public communication skills and that the people who run their website suck (it was down for over a MONTH this year) but the books themselves seem fine, I bought Boing Boing and Power Play from them and I enjoyed them well enough. I compared the Japanese, fan-translation, and Project-H translation of the first chapter and Projet-H's was actually more accurate. In the fan translation there were at least a couple things that were simply made up.
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>>112319070
Well, FAKKU stuff will be uncensored whereas JP imports won't.
Great. The japanese original has the original untranslated text whereas the Fakku version doesn't. Are you telling me to buy the same comic twice if I want to read what the original said, and see the original drawn SFX and have it be uncensored at the same time?
This isn't anime, I can't just turn off subtitles.
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I'm sad over how retarded folks in Japan are.

They could do all of this on it's own and get even more money from western fans, but no, let's just call gaijins "internet thieves" and live on letting some jew who was doing illegal shit for years make profit.
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>>112316025
You don't see a lot of authors (well, I don't see a lot) who are willing to go back and follow up on bummer endings based on fan demand. I can think of this:

http://exhentai.org/g/715385/d8c861aa80
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>>112319330

Buy the digital version and edit the original Japanese in from the raws then
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>>112319330
Well if you can read jap then of course you can import. Though not everyone is like you.
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>>112319070
unless you are doing loli, there's no reason for me to pay the extra price then.
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>>112319359

Japanese people really can not into business.
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>>112319372
Hey, genius. I'm trying not to be a pirate here.
If I want a legal alternative that is both uncensored and has the original text, I'm fucked.
Plus Wani's trying to wipe the raws from the face of the earth.
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>>112319368

That was more of a desperate attempt at half-retconning due to how idiotic the story got.

>>112319359

They don't want to deal with baka gaijin for their business.
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>Jacob makes a contract with Wani
>release 8Kp HD uncensored digital release
>anons flock to rip the release and allow for a more flexible rerelease
>mfw f/a/ggots will never understand this because of MUH PIRACY

Sacrifice are always made to achieve greatness
Jacob will be the hero hentai will need and you faggots can never do anything about it!!
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Hey Daiz, is it possible to use 10-bit color profile on scanlations? Will it give any benefits?
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>>112319372
If they censored the hi-quality raws then japanese people could enjoy the same instant access to high quality hentai.
It would work better if it was done via a wani pagefront or something I love that sort of stuff with little site mascots and official twitter accounts etc.
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>>112319050
Yes blissfully ignorant to not be illegaly pirating porn on a single site. This is why you divide the work amongst a couple sites.
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Do you think nips gonna import uncensored books from states, scan it and edit with their moonrunes?

2chan even know about that Fakku deal?
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Why not just read the raws? The translations and typesetting are shit tier and censorship depending on the artist could be non-existent.

What or where is the problem?
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>>112319553
Probably.
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>>112319545

No, blissfully ignorant in that Pururin and nhentai have relatively zero Wani stuff.
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>>112319470
It was the closest I could think of. Usually if a story ends badly the author and the audience wanted it that way, but I think Homonculus might have underestimated the sensitivity of his fanbase, which is a weird thing to say about porn comics.
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>>112319553
>japan now has reverse scanlation community with rippers and typesetters
>they start their own sad panda.
>jacob gets mad tells japan to use JSDF to deal with otaku
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>>112319507
It's only 1k, according to >>112315864
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>>112319553

Chinks are salivating, like rabid dogs in front of a wounded prey, at fakku books.

Streets will be crawling with bootleg fakku book tanks reverse-translated to Chinese not even a week after release

It'll be great for them, finally they won't have to deal with fucking retarded overly burned scans where you can't see shit.

>F?kku Books
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>>112319507
One tank every couple of months does not pay us back all the shit we lost.
Mostly just a good place with it all nicely sorted out since the content can be found elsewhere. But still! That place was sacred!
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>>112319596
FAKKU's release will be of a much higher quality than the raws we typically get, and they won't be releasing the original Japanese text. raws from Wani tanks and mags will also become harder to find since they will no longer be hosted on e-hentai, where most raws get posted.
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>>112319455
>If I want a legal alternative that is both uncensored and has the original text, I'm fucked.
Well, no shit. Why would there be a legal way to buy something illegal? You're just grasping at straws trying to motivate your piracy.

It's like me saying I won't buy these books unless they're in my language, and every page is in color.
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>>112319553
Nah, they would use some special made stickers.
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>>112319605
It has more than ex right now. Besides, Wani shit is for a lack of a better word, entry level stuff in terms of artists and fetishes. There is helluva lot more stuff to fap to. I think of viewing Wani stuff as a perk instead of a privelage.
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>>112319726
It's gone dude, you should've hoarded when the first anons started to panic.
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>>112319759
You're the consumer. It's completely in your right to say something like that.
That's how fucking capitalism works, you jizz nozzle.
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>>112318524
Nope. Not all of it is acting. People get really stupid and really emotional when you tell them or show them something they don't want to hear/see.
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>>112319796

>Wani shit is for a lack of a better word, entry level stuff in terms of artists
>artists

Yeah, take your time and find a better word, because this way you sound clueless.
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>>112319796
>muh superior tastes and fetishes

Oh okay, you're one of those retards.
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>>112319759
>It's like me saying I won't buy these books unless they're in my language, and every page is in color.
This attitude here children is why corporations currently fuck their customers over so much. As a consumer it's your right in a free market to demand the best quality for the best price.
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>>112319668
That's 10k you fucking mongrel.
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>>112319741
Is the paper version directly from the artist bad? I don't understand. Also there are plenty other places to find the content you just have to search for it.
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>>112318402
muh sikresy was keeping exhentai out of this purging shit.
eat a dick
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>>112319553
They'll just take the high quality digital release and copy-paste the jp script from Wani releases.

Wani fucked up by not allowing Fakku to release jp version. I mean there are overseas uncensored JAV sites that are aimed at japan market
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>>112319359
Pretty sure it's easier to outsource it, given the legality issues with uncensored porn in Japan. They can't block Japanese IPs on their site if they're based in Japan.

What's more, they would have to hire staff to work on the English releases, compared to just getting a cut for no extra work like now.
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>>112319869
What would you use? I'm just trying to pin down Wani as just a portion of hentai. But not the main portion.
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>>112319954
>Is the paper version directly from the artist bad?
It is actually, the quality is worse than what FAKKU is planning on putting out.
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>>112319945
shit, you're right. lel
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>>112319977

It's the only portion that actually matters when discussing alternate sites, because ex has more of everything else. The only way a competitor site can stand out right now is by having Wani shit, and the competitors don't have Wani shit, so they are literally pointless.
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>>112319359
>treating pirated materials as lost sales when japs don't even localize shit

I had the english versions of all the release of Eroquis and Aomizuan and a bunch of localized yamatogawa tank.

Is it really that hard to localize h-manga to other country? or are they still blinded by the good'ol WAITU PIGGU GO HOMU mentality...

xenophobic retards...
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>>112320044
> literally pointless.
Redundancy and competition is never a bad thing anon.
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>>112318803
>hey goys please stop complaining and give me your shekels!
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Doesn't change a thing for me, I pirate every media I consume.
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>>112320136
High 5. I pirated Flash MX for my entire middle school.
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>>112319922

No it's not. They fuck you over because you're nobody, nothing, a peon to them.

For one "you" who complains there's a hundred who loves to be assraped by corporations. It works the same for videogames, ask >>112320136

>>112319977

In terms of popularity? Wani is "the main", followed by Core, and then everyone else. Mujin comics follows right after them but they are not as relevant. Usually if you're published under Core and Wani, chances you're going to be serialized for non-h are much, much higher than average.
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Goddamn dilemmas. I like Homunculus, his art is fantastic, so I'd like to buy a copy of Renai Sample. If I do that though I'll be supporting Fakku. I don't mind supporting Western Hentai publishers in general, but Fakku have been cunts about all this. If I and many others don't support them then this Wani/Fakku deal may go down in tears and flames and we can all go back to translating whatever we like when Wani abandons the west again. On the other hand, supporting them may lead to them eventually branching out and publishing some good non-vanilla stuff. Both supporting and not supporting them could lead to consequences both good and bad.
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>>112320136
b-but muh loyalty to this one pirate site
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>>112318803
>difficult
>note layers like gelbooru but better implementation e.g. you switch between translations through a click of a button
>this is hard
no
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>>112320224
you're not supporting the artists, read >>112319189
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>>112320224
>but Fakku have been cunts about all this

How exactly? And what would it take for them to not be a cunt about it in your eyes?

Remember that it was Wani that sent all those takedown notices, not FAKKU.
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>>112320224
You know what would fix everything?
The Olympic games not going to Japan and them finally abolishing the censorship law.
Why the fuck would they put it in their constitution, bunch of clueless fucks.
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>>112320235
I'm level 256 for fuck sake!
you're right tho, I'm through with the panda
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>>112320334
that will never happen.
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>>112320296
That would be ugly as shit, though. If you want to typeset properly, at worst you might need to adjust all text bubbles with honorifics manually because the line length is different, and on a 200-page tank that's not just a little bit of extra work.
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>>112319553
koreans already know all this shit. why would the chinks not know?
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>>112320312
>Remember that it was Wani that sent all those takedown notices, not FAKKU.
We still have no proof of that.
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>>112320312

They think if Wani wasn't in agreement with you to milk american jerkoffs, they would have not been so adamant with DMCA.
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>>112320183

Isn't Akaneshinsha (Tenma, LO, Girls ForM, Koh, Sigma) above Mujin?
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>>112320312
Wani sent them because of the FAKKU deal, fucking shill
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>>112320430

Same tier, mostly because loli sells and there's basically just LO left to run the asylum.
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>>112320461
I think Wani actually sent them because of nips using the panda, but what do I know, you'll just call me a fakku shill.
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>>112319831
>>112319922
That anon is being unreasonable though. He wants uncensored porn in Japanese, when uncensored porn is illegal in Japan. I would've been okay with his complain if he said, "the translation sucks! I won't buy until it improves!" That's something they can do and get more customers by providing quality.

He's asking for something that FAKKU (and probably even Wani) can't provide. If that's what he wants, then yes, he shouldn't buy FAKKU's books. It's not that hard. I'm just tired of seeing all these people thinking they're making good arguments by saying, "I wanna read these in Japanese, but these books will be in English, so therefore, this entire project is awful."
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>>112319796

>Entry level

I just don't understand the teenage mentality that many hentai fans have. Must we really attempt to be more hardcore than others because of our fetishes? Sure, I like bondage, facesitting, rape, femdom, smell fetish, and all that good stuff too (not that extreme, I know, but I'm not trying to impress anyone with what makes my dick hard) but sometimes I really enjoy seeing a loving couple having sex too.
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>>112320334
>Why the fuck would they put it in their constitution, bunch of clueless fucks.
Because back in the early 20th century when moralism was a big part of politics everyone thought it was a good idea, and it's never been taken out because you'd be hard pressed to find a jap politician who wants to be "the pervert who wants porn uncensored".
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>>112320312
Wani sent them and Fakku is now working with them, same shit.
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>>112320461
Yeah, I'm sure they also went back in time to send takedown notices to everyone after making the deal, including to FAKKU who they would have just made a deal with.
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>>112320361
Why though the site is still good
>>112320416
Secret secret club happened before this shitstorm
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>>112312393
I've come to dislike how scans usually make colors more yellow and overdo the contrast. Guess they always end up as yellow because they're supposed to look like asian instead of pink european apes.
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>>112320304

Read my post again.

>supporting Western Hentai publishers
>publishers
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>>112320495
They can sell the untranslated versions in western countries. It's not like it's the script that's the issue, it's the naughty bits.
You do realize the japs can still buy the uncensored tanks from america, especially so because Fakku provides them digitally.
Your argument holds no water.
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>>112316739
It still works just fine, you fucking spaz.
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>>112320532

Ha. Haha. Hahaha.

There's people who think they're legit alpha males because they like sluts and debauchery, we had a thread the other day and it was mindboggling. Whatever makes them happy, I guess.
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>>112320461
But that's wrong you fucking retard.
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>>112320224
If you want to support homunculus just buy his doujinshi
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>>112320495
There's nothing illegal about uncensored Japanese porn in the original Japanese any outside Japan though, and it is something FAKKU could very well provide since they get the raws anyway. The only reason FAKKU will only provide English trans is because Wani is worried about profit loss from reverse-import, which is Wani's problem, not ours as consumers.
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>>112320587
I buy localized manga because I want to support more being officially translated into english. I guess he wants to do the same with hentai.

>>112320600
Japanese businesses are very non-confrontational and traditionalist. They don't want to rock the boat at home so close to the olympics. Maybe things will change after 2020. Be patient.
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>>112320600
You can buy the uncensored japanese version from fakku? Isn't most of this thread because that isn't the case?
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>>112320312

Hmm, when I think about it, there is no proof that Fakku was involved with anything bad that happened, though there's no proof that they weren't either. It's my distrust of Jacob that has me really leery. I'm afraid that if their business model is successful that takedown requests will get even worse and there will be even less people translating Wani stuff, which will be bad if Fakku sticks with the most vanilla stuff they can find. If they branch out it won't bother as much, I'll happily avoid translating Wani stuff that I know is going to get an official localization.
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>>112320647

>doujinshi

He hasn't made a doujin in years. Doujin is when you pay for the paper, the cover, the printing costs, the hardware needed to draw your porn, your spot at the convention, then you sit down and sell your junk.

He's a professional hentai mangaka now, he doesn't have to sit down at comiket to sell monogatari parodies, he just works at home or in wani offices, has his own assistants and makes money that way, by drawing original stories.
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wani stuff is regularly uploaded and taken down, you just have to lurk exhentai on a basis.
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>>112320600
No, you can buy the uncensored english version. The point is, they can buy uncensored porn anyway so it doesn't matter what language it's in.
Therefore, give me my jap.
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>>112320753
>He's a professional hentai mangaka now

He was when he was doing doujinshi too.
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>>112320790
Shit, meant for>>112320727
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>>112320839

He started with parodies.
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>not using prettyhentai
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>>112320773
Or you know, you can go "there". No I'm not talking about /a/'s "that", I'm talking about "THERE".
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>>112320727
all this ruckus is actually stuff not being uploaded in sadpanda.
the rest is pure excuses.
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What I don't get is why everyone gives a shit about supporting the artists now. Before you would just go to panda, download, and then fap. But now that Fakku is selling physical copies everyone has their panties in a bunch because buying them doesn't support the artists.
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>>112320916
You mean "THE PLACE" or "THE THING"? I feel like I'm in a shitty shounen with everyone talking about "THAT".
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>>112320874

Not true. He started in Kairakuten 2009-07, ~2 months before his firs