New anime Kickstarter
>Under the Dog
>The year is 2025 in the city of New Tokyo, five years following the devastation wrought by a specially enhanced groups of terrorists at the 2020 Summer Olympics. Out of the ashes of that desolation, the UN formed a special covert branch headquartered in Tokyo Bay solely purposed with searching out and eliminating the forces responsible for the attack along with anyone even bearing a remote resemblance to them.
unfortunately, I just don't see them making the goal
Ando and Kinema simply don't have the kind of pull and fanfare Trigger had when they pulled Academia 2. Seriously how many people in the western anime fanbase even know Ando? At best they'll all be like "oh that guy that directed Sword of the Stranger", but even then it's not gonna be enough to get people to open their wallets.
So I am guessing the team put this together with Kinema and then none of the production companies would give them the kind of funding deal they wanted so they decided to try kickstarter after seeing some other things succeed?
Well it is a Blu-ray and OST but yeah pretty pricey. I think they are thinking the market is pretty small and that if it will make it there it will be on the few peopl willing to put that much in or sink trying/
It would be nice seeing a creative director/animator with a team of passionate individuals putting some effort into a project they actually liked and wanted to do for once. You can usually tell when the animators actually care about what they are drawing rather than just acting like animating machine slaves for hir.
There really should be a goal somewhere between the $20 and $100 there will be a big bumber of people willing to go higher than $20 for the BD but nowhere near $100 like $60-80 and you will get far more on that.
>japanese crowd-funding anime with US viewer money
>japanese taking the US viewer into consideration
>anime is no longer targeted specifically at the japanese
>not made for the japanese = not anime
Your house is falling down around your ears, /a/.
>most anime is animated in Korea
What sayest thou now, knave?
It seems interesting but
I dunno, doesn't that seem pretty pricey? especially for just a one 24 minute episode?
It's definitely on the upper edge of reasonable for a single episode, but this will include all of the frontloaded design work (I realise that this seems less valid when their 2 episode goal is exactly twice their 1 episode goal), and they also seem to be trying to aim for very high production values. I think a run of the mill show uses like half that amount per episode.
>slaves built my pyramids
>but i told them how to do it, so its obviously my achievement
Anime can be pretty expensive. And this here isn't going for TV anime budget.
here's the best part
They're gonna release the episode in december 2015.
A whole fucking year just to make a 24 minute anime episode.
>As a cover, the International School for Boys and Girls was established for the ongoing covert operation of discovering and recruiting gifted high school students, each with their own special abilities
LWA the original episode has a budget of ~$390,000 and that didn't include any of the distribution costs or making of the rewards like DVDs/BDs/CDs. The new episode LWA 2 only had a much lower target because they had already paid one off fees like character designs that can be reused etc.
The LWA 2 kickstarter wasn't to fund LWA2, it was to make it 40 minutes long instead of 25. LWA also managed to establish a fanbase thanks to a first episode filled with cute animation and eye-catching characters. It's not comparable to any other anime KS.
I was trying to make the point that the funding goal wasn't far too high for what they are aiming to make given that it seemed the poster had the misconception it was overly high based on the previous LWA2 target being far lower.
This show has major western appeal though, if it manages to grab attention enough.
If they start throwing around terms like cyberpunk and pushing the fact he has worked on NGE and Ghost in the Shell. Tons of western anime fans fucking love cyberpunk shit. Way more than love little witches. Although I think a lot of interest in LWA was from /co/ types who just thought it was cute aswell as anime types.
If you've got 10 grand to blow on Chinese cartoons then I doubt transportation and accommodation will be a problem. I visited Tokyo for a week and blew $3k in all, transport included.
Yuasa has a small but passionate fanbase of people who idolize him and are not usually casuals about anime. Ando just about nobody in the west knows or cares about at all unfortuntately.
>The year is 20XX
>X years ago this happened
>architect designs wonder of the world
>dirt people build it
OBVIOUSLY THE DIRT PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS WONDERFUL CONTRIBUTION TO THE WORLD FUCK ARCHITECTS
Just tell the SJWs there's a strong female lead. They'll throw enough money at it to fund a ball pit.
Was anyone else impressed by how organized the description was? So many times people make a kickstarter but aren't even half this transparent about costs/goals/etc.
I agree this will be hard to fund, though. Hopefully they have some advertising budget to push this in the right places. Did LWA2 make it on actual news places?
>Anthea, a Swedish girl, is the team's infiltrator and assassin who was personally raised by Colonel Amagata. She prides herself in her abilities in combat and for good reason. Because of her skill, Anthea is often given point on special operations, usually to get the other agents out of a jam.
This really does sound like something they would take the bait on.
>From a studio nobody has heard about
>Anthea, a Swedish girl, is the team's anal infiltrator and sextoy who was personally raised by Colonel Oogabooga. She prides herself in her abilities in pleasuring black cock and for good reason. Because of her skill, Anthea is often seen saying "YES", usually to denote her love for the BBC
What is your point supposed to be? Commercial success of a franchise does not nessecarily link to fame of a director. Almost everybody interested in anime knows about the fight scenes is Sword of the Stranger.
Geez - yeah just what we want the sources for! What you used to convert the currency! Never mind giving sources for the actual production value figures of the show in question - the thing that kind of matters the fuck most in a chart like that!
>yfw this bombs and Japan starts hating us again
>Pledge $5,000 or more
>Our artists will assist you in designing an extra character for the episode with some spoken dialogue. Also receive an A2 size High Quality Print still of your favorite moment from the episode
I can imagine that Dnny Choo fucker would be getting in on this.
He's not Yuasa or Imaishi well-known, nor can the studio flaunt itself like Trigger did. Add the fact that this is a new IP asking for over twice what Kick-Heart was asking, and failure is inevitable if they can't market the shit out of this.
Lets put our money together to bring moot into anime.
Sorry I don't watch shit anime.
>Did you read their fucking bios?
Ando is pretty good, the rest of the staff are nobodies. Whenever it says they "worked on" something rather than listing an actual position, it means they were not of any relevance whatsoever and are just trying to curry favor by being ambiguous.
I wasn't saying they were going to do it or their names would be able to pull in that much rather just that its not a studio nobody has heard of or no name staff.
They really should have called this cyberpunk in the marketing page on kickstarter westerners will buy cyberpunk made by someone who worked on Ghost in the Shell at a studio born from Production I.G.
If I'll back this, it's for the animation... It's a Ando anime, you'll watch for the animation, not for the story...
Does anyone know which World Materpiece Theatre show that is which seems to be pointing to sweden on this map?
>Amerifats are the only people outside of Japan with access to the internet.
>Under the Dog
The won't get my money.
Are they even trying?
We Evangelion again?
>2020 Summer Olympics
>special covert branch headquartered
>in Tokyo Bay
>high school students
>elite death squad
Forget subsiding them! They'd have to pay me for watching it.
>Regarding rewards, having the Blu-ray only from $100 seems like a problem, this should be included already at a $50 price point.
This nerd, who the fuck expects to get anime on blu-ray for $50 from Japan?
Do you think GitS is on life support?
Not necessarily speaking about this, but I'd like an expandable worldbuilding sci-fi if nobody wants to work with that name anymore. I guess there's PP too.
Serious question: What's the actual cost for crating a show, from start to finish? Forget about getting it on a network.
Just the numbers
Serious answer: Depends entirely on the show. Something cheap could cost a few $1000 something high quality and well animated you could spend an unlimited amount on. LWA the first episode as an example got a budget pf $390,000 to make from scratch without any distribution etc. in that budget.
>and in place of any episodes
>we will instead do a 90-120 minute feature film
>one 24 minute episode
The preview is 2m long,
Plus if you count the opening & ending, you've to subtract another 1:30 & 1:30.
So, you will have to pay $580,000 to watch 19min of new contents.
If we pay more than $600,000, the ending & opening will be performed by Nano.ripe
$650,000 and HanaKana & Yuki Kaji will be the main seiyuus
$750,000 and Funimation will licence,sub,encode it and mail the dvd/K7.
Yeah that's a thing I see when looking at artists and circles. It's like they don't realize web design has advanced since the geocities/angelfire era.
The heavy use of bulletin boards is probably cultural though.
No, this will probably hit a million dollars in funding. People have been throwing loads of money at anything anime related on Kickstarter.
What was that 20 year old anime that got like $200,000 funding called again?
Bubblegum Crisis? That was for a BD release to be brought here via AnimEigo, and BGC was already a hot a commodity, it was one of those titles that you always played in anime clubs to wow them alongside AKIRA or Ninja Scroll or Project A-ko. And that Kickstarter was mostly acting as pre-order system anyway.
Kinema Citrus is good when they have budget (E7, Tokyo Magnitude 8.0) and a good staff behind (Yuyushiki, Barakamon), but sometimes they have shitty projects like Black Bullet (I think the problem in BB were the producers...). Overall, it's a good studio.
They're also asking that you drop $100 on something based on the trailer to get the BluRay. Japs only pay 6-7k yen for their discs.
>Funding on Kickstarter is all-or-nothing. No one will be charged for a pledge towards a project unless it reaches its funding goal. This way, creators always have the budget they scoped out before moving forward.
I just watched the trailer, the key animation is indeed better than what I expected, and those background seems straight out of a PA Work anime, really high quality.
Fuck this shit, I know this will fail and it hurts. It's fucking stupid, I'm sure Noitamina would pay for something like this in a heartbeat.
They're asking for anything they can get. 20$ seems pretty reasonable. I gave 30 because with the Blizzard mixing engineer is fucking legit and the sound is going to be extremely professionally done, hopefully carrying over to the soundtrack.
I think they could reach the goal, but not in just a month's time. Seems like the sort of thing that should have had promotion beforehand "hey guys, we're gonna do a Kickstarter, better look forward to it" and then launch once everyone's already informed.
Are there really people that know this little about anime posting on /a/?
But that's how 99.99% of the western userbase react when they see those names. And this is why the kickstarter will probably fail. This is much different from the overhyped Trigger project.
I highly doubt Gunbuster's or Astro Boy's costs being that high. The others may be more or less within the ballpark, but Astro Boy was always known as the start of super-cheap corner-cutting animation to get something out every week. And Gunbuster was right after Gainax lost out big time on Honneamise bombing.
How come anime is so incredibly more expensive to make than, say, a game? I can't wrap around my head how 12 episodes of a regular show can be more expensive than The Witcher 3, for example.
throw around titles like Sword of the Stranger and Fire Emblem Awakening to make the userbase aware of who they're dealing with and you'd probably get a positive reaction. It's a stretch but it might work.
They got 100k and the guy on Santa Company is an absolute nobody, the guy on Mai Mai Miracle has directed nothing pretty much besides that.
Ando on the other hand is well respected both for his high skilled animation and direction.
The difference is that Western animation isn't even western animation. It's western scripting and storyboarding.
They ship the actual animation part to the koreans, since you'd actually have to pay a western animator enough so he doesn't starve.
The discs are a niche good because no one wants to pay an arm and a leg for them. A lot of people who only pirate anime would at least buy their favorite series IF the price wasn't batshit insane.
I assume he meant stuff like The Simpsons, as Avatar was done in part by Studio Pierrot and another one that I forget. On The Simpsons they probably pay their animators a reasonable amount of money, and they pay a lot more for voice actors.
>proves those goddamn nips can sell BDs cheaper, they just don't want to
They aren't going to sell more if they are cheaper. They will lose money. There are not many people who are willing to pay for these animations and many of those who are willing to are willing to pay a lot for them. The best gusiness model is to keep prices as high as possible as the market size will not increase with the price falling. You will essentially erode your own profit margin for nothing and devalue your product perhaps permananently.
>Hollywood movie-tier tryhard action trailer
>boring fight suit
Not into this. I kind of feel bad for them, so I still kind of hope it gets funded, but I probably won't watch it.
>Although I think a lot of interest in LWA was from /co/ types who just thought it was cute aswell as anime types.
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Imiashi is a pretty big name on the animation circuit in general people who aren't even in to anime know about TTGL and PSG and he has many fans outside of 4chan, so no it wasn't just because LWA looked cute it was because the people behind it were big names.
I just pressed F5 and the money jumped from $7000 to $9500. That was quick.
I'm pretty sure there are, but they are not centralized in a single region. If they had a centralized, worldwide distribution system and cheaper prices, foreigners would most certainly buy enough to cover the cost of lowering the prices and then some. This would have the added benefit of having more people getting into the "collecting" mentality in the hobby. Blueray on your shelf also serves as a limited form of marketing. People coming into your room will see it and may get curious or ask for you to lend it to them, which may, in turn, give them an interest in anime or, if already interested, may make him desire to buy BDs himself. This would expand their market instead of shrinking it further and further.
You're not buying a blu-ray, you're investing into an anime serie. The blu-ray is merely the reward.
If you simply want the BD, wait for the campaign to end. Then you'll have the choice between buying the japanese BD for 200$ or wait 2 years for your country to get the BD for 80$, or pirate it.
Personally, I don't think that 100$ is a lot for a full series, in my country they sell the complete DVD box of an anime series for that price.
>You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Imiashi is a pretty big name on the animation circuit...
At least get his name right before you claim authroity. Why would you fund LWA if you were interested in seeing Imaishi animation? He did none of the animation in that and wasn't claimed to and it is not animated in his style at all. You could have talked about Yoh Yoshinari but really you are the one who has no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
People were actively wishing for that kickstarter to fail and for the demise of HG. This Kickstarter is more along the lines of "muh GitS", so the appeal is much broader.
>Stupid engrish title
>nonsensical sci fi plot that is going to throw around silly engrish organization names and just be another agents fighting corruption story
>characters will be undeveloped as oh shit its just a 24 minute ova
I see how they're trying to make it all from Kickstarter money, but this is just going to be mediocre even if everything works out.
>Personally, I don't think that 100$ is a lot for a full series, in my country they sell the complete DVD box of an anime series for that price.
Yeah, for a full series.
This is one episode at 24 minutes, which may or may not be counting the ending credits.
kickstarters usually get their biggest chunks of funding in the beginning and the end. I'm actually not sure that this one is moving quickly enough to get funded, but maybe if word gets spread around some news sites it might have a chance?
>At least get his name right before you claim authroity
>Why would you fund LWA if you were interested in seeing Imaishi animation?
It's being animated by Trigger
Trigger is headed by Imiashi
If you're funding LWA you're directly helping Imiashi and his studio
Do the math retard.
>You could have talked about Yoh Yoshinari but really you are the one who has no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
Nowhere in my post did I say Imiashi was animating LWA you fucking retard.
Yeah I forgot that part, but my first point still remain. Kickstarter isn't supposed to be a pre-order shop, it's a crowd-funding site.
That said, 50-60$ would indeed be better.
No not really.
>It's being animated by Trigger...
Still gives no reason to believe people who were interested in work by Imaishi would be willing to fund to see anything done in a completely different style.
>Nowhere in my post did I say Imiashi was animating LWA you fucking retard.
Certainly implied he was. Backpedal on that now if you want though. I'll let you back down.
if it had better rewards i'd consider giving them my dollaridoos
>No not really.
Actually it is. You denying it just makes you look more pathetic.
>People have no reasons to fund a project made by the people who worked on Gurren Lagann by a studio they conceived
>Certainly implied he was.
Except I didn't. You're just desperate at this point.
Its not ironic in the slightest. The point I made is you were basing your claim on someones name you didn't even know how to spell correctly as made clear by your last post where you still spelt it incorrectly. I just made a typo.
>People have no reasons to fund a project made by the people who worked on Gurren Lagann by a studio they conceived
Good job moving the goalposts.
>Except I didn't.
Sure thing. I already told you that I accept your backing down on that point though.
People may have watched it, but that doesn't mean they know the director. That's like saying Ridley Scott was a household name after Alien, not that SotS is any Alien.
I just pledged 115$, but I fear they don't understand how kickstarter really works.
Should have been for 200K with stretch goals. I really feel like asking for 600K right at the gate is problematic.
>Its not ironic in the slightest
But it is. You just decided to be a retard for no reason and then fucked up yourself, a typo is a typo but trying to act all high and might with egg on your face just makes you look pathetic.
>Good job moving the goalposts.
I'll take this as a concession.
>I didn't prove anything so I accept you backing down
First day on the internet huh?
>high school students
That sounds really fucking generic, and I hope they have something to make it stand out.
I bet that it wont even make the goal, though.
>But it is.
No it isn't a typo is a typo. A retard not knowing to spell the name of someone who he is using as a basis for his argument is something completely different.
>I'll take this as a concession.
If you like but I take it as you just completely changed your point after realising you were retarded.
>I didn't prove anything so I accept you backing down
I don't know who you are supposed to be quoting there.
What is your point, it is the most popular site of its kind of the internet and it shows almost double its extremley casual users have seen Sword of the Stranger compared to LWA. Proving it is not something onyl Sakugafags watched but tons of casual anime fans aswell.
LWA2's Kickstarter started a few months after the first movie came out on Blu-ray and the want for more was alive and well. Sword of the Stranger is seven years old at this point so it's harder to get people hyped with it.
But this is the third anime kickstarter and the previous two were successes.
Successes in that they were funded. Kick-heart was absolutely shit and LWA2 still hasn't been released, but hey, they're funded.
Let's compare something
Little Witch Academia
>171625 downloads on Nyaa
>Sword of the Stranger
>Highest download was a spanish sub of 85480 downloads on Nyaa
>it is the most popular site
Except this is wrong. It gets less traffic than ANN and has less users than anidb.
The problem right now is that they have essentially done a bunch of work that is guaranteed to be wasted since 600K won't be met.
If they put it at 200K they can probably get funded to like 250-400ish. Take out a loan or partner up with somebody and make the rest back off BD sales like any other anime.
While I doubt it will secure the funding, I would love if they succeeded. Would be pretty awesome.
Also, Ando looks very depressed in that picture of his on the site, but maybe that's just the natural state of being of Japanese people.
Nyaa is something used by /a/ and similar autists. We download our anime. The much larger audience of casuals usually streams. For this comparison it would be much better to compare MAL viewers than Nyaa downloads.
>A retard not knowing to spell the name of someone who he is using as a basis for his argument is something completely different.
Nope, that is something you brought up because you didn't want to look stupid. If you're gonna act autistic next time use spellcheck before you post.
>If you like but I take it as you just completely changed your point after realizing you were retarded.
I didn't change anything. My main point was that the kickstarter had hype because the people behind TTGL were working on it and that Trigger was headed by Imiashi, nowhere did I say Imiashi animated LWA that is something YOU brought up because you fail at reading comprehension, now you're desperately trying to backpedal.
>Nope, that is something you brought up because you didn't want to look stupid.
No that is something you got wrong because you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
>My main point was that the kickstarter had hype because the people behind TTGL were working on it and that Trigger was headed by Imiashi
Let's take a look
>Imiashi is a pretty big name on the animation circuit in general people who aren't even in to anime know about TTGL and PSG and he has many fans outside of 4chan
No that wasn't even close to your point, keep changing your argument though. Your point was that Imaishi was a big name and people would fund LWA because of him and his past works. Nothing to do with him being head of a studio that happened to be connected to LWA.
He could just use GITS to show how insignificant Sword of the Stranger is
>For this comparison it would be much better to compare MAL viewers than Nyaa downloads.
Except MAL is directed towards Nyaa, Their sub listing directly links to Nyaa and they dont even have stream listing. Anyone who logs into MAL at least knows their shit or at least downloads their subs, ANN would have been a better example since that site is casual as fuck.
>I point out your own stupidity so you don't know what you're talking about
Okay. I like the fact that you just dropped the typo argument because it wasn't helping your case.
In both of those lines I mentioned that Imiashi name helped the kickstarter, now where in any of that did I mention he animated LWA? Your piss poor reading comprehension seems to be working against you.
>These committees are usually composed of people with an investor's mindset who look to profit first and then to creative awesomeness, if at all. This can often lead to projects stalled or mired in bureaucracy, indecision, and conflicts of interest. Production committees also generally require intellectual property buyouts in which the creatives involved essentially sacrifice all rights to their work just so they can see their dreams come to fruition in any form at all. Kickstarter will allow our artists to retain their rights and control as well as maintain their passion and investment for the lifetime of the series and any spin-offs. We also have less "cooks in the kitchen," so to speak, so that creative direction will be decisive. No marketing or advertising based creative decisions or delays here!
AS THE FUCK IF
>lel we're free to do a high school girl anime now !
Kickstarter is a crowd-funding site, not a pre-order site.
It's that kind of thinking that made some projects fail because the rewards actually costed them too much money.
People are funding a project, not buying BD/artbooks/games or whatever.
They asked for $100K for a freaking game and now they want $580K for a 24 minute film.
Don't get me wrong, that's also EXACTLY what I wanted
But still they could have thought about something more original. The girl killing shit don't have to be in high school. I don't care, but shallow normalfags do, and without their money we won't see this at all.
>Okay. I like the fact that you just dropped the typo argument because it wasn't helping your case.
I'm not even sure what this is supposed to mean. You really can't compare a simple typo to repeatedly spelling the name of someone wrongly who's fame is central to your arguments claim to superior knowledge and authority when such a mistake makes it abunduntly clear the argument comes from a position of ignorance.
>In both of those lines I mentioned that Imiashi name helped the kickstarter, now where in any of that did I mention he animated LWA
You clearly implied this in your original statement that fans of Imaishi's animation would be interested in funding LWA because of his involvement due to their awareness of his past works. Why would fans of someones animation be interested in funding something if not for the fact they are animating it? This was your point. That because of Imaishi and the fact he worked on TTGL and P&S people would fund LWA. Not Trigger. Not 'the same people' or anything like that but Imaishi. Strongly implying you believe he has some direct and strong involvement in the project that likely includes animation.
You can deny that if you want or try hide behind 'your reading is bad i didn't say that' but it is clearly backpedalling on your part if you do.
To be honest, it's about right. Animation cost a LOT of money, mainly because it takes a lot of time. They want to do it right with top-tier animation so they are setting the bar high.
In video games, you can easily reuse a lot of content, and in the end modelisation and animation are what cost the most. Luckily you don't have to do tons of animations either (less than 24 minutes at least), modelling difficuty depends on a lot of factors though.
Compitent sound designers, Compitent animators,
but the fucking plot man, WHYYYY
> You really can't compare a simple typo
And this is why you're pathetic, you believe there's some hierarchy to spelling errors all because your autistic rant backfired on you.
>You clearly implied this in your original statement that fans of Imaishi's animation would be interested in funding LWA because of his involvement due to their awareness of his past works.
Except I didn't. I said Imiashi, as a fucking person, is a well known figure among animation enthusiasts and that people who are familiar with his work would jump on the chance of funding a project for HIS studio not because he's directly involved with the project.
>Why would fans of someones animation be interested in funding something if not for the fact they are animating it? This was your point.
Except that wasn't my point. Fans of animation would fund it just for the notion that it's being made by the people behind TTGL which I've repeated several times already.
>That because of Imaishi and the fact he worked on TTGL and P&S people would fund LWA. Not Trigger.
No. The PEOPLE who worked on those shows not just Imiashi, his name is just the most recognizable of the bunch.
Your failure of getting a simple point is more pathetic than you getting asspained over a simple typo and then trying to deny it.
No, it's just that 4°C and Yuasa have their own hipster brigades hyping everything they do. They even firmly believe that they are the only good thing about japanese animation.
>Director of Canaan and Hanasaku Iroha
>some guy whose only work has been for games
At most this sounds like something you could have a passing interest in, but to pay for? No thanks, but at least it isn't that shitty Robotech thing /m/ were killing themselves over.
This is giving me heavy Stand Alone Complex vibes. I'm in.
Canaan was my AOTY when it aired. I loved it, and it was fairly popular here.
>you believe there's some hierarchy to spelling errors
No I believe that when you claim superior knowledge and demonstrate a lack of knowledge while attempting to do so you lose credibility.
>I said Imiashi, as a fucking person, is a well known figure among animation enthusiasts... that people who are familiar with his work would jump on the chance of funding...
You said this part and none of the rest of which you claim you said, you are adding that all in now after the fact, or as I said moving the goalposts. Trigger nor any other studio or artists were mentioned in your post just Imaishi and his work on TTGL and P&S drawing attention to LWA.
>everytime I hear about it it's "It's cool but nothing special."
It was a tight little flick, but I think it actually got overpraised back in 2009. But don't try to downplay this or those other anime as things zero people watched, Hanasaku Iroha was quite popular.
>Not knowing Ando and Kosaki
You're powerlevel IS bad, deal with it. You weren't even here when Hana Iro aired ? Fucking newfag
Also Mind Game and Kaib are normalfag tier anime.
>Typical Mari Okada melodramatic bullshit
>No I believe that when you claim superior knowledge and demonstrate a lack of knowledge while attempting to do so you lose credibility.
And this is coming from a retard who points out a typo while making one himself.
>You said this part and none of the rest of which you claim you said
Except I did, you just quoted one post. My entire stance has been around the fact that the TTGL staff are big names and Imiashi is the most well known of the staff, YOU were wrong because YOU stated that I implied that he was directly involved with LWA and that people only contributed because they wanted to see his animation style in it.
Holy shit all that money for a movie, a movie which they can put on theaters to make all their money back right away versus selling actual BDs for OVAs, god damn jews.
This is why I hate kickstarter, companies just want to use it so they are risk free when they release their product even if it's a failure they won't care, and you know it won't be otherwise it'd not get funded.
>Also Mind Game and Kaib are normalfag tier anime.
What the fuck does Mari Okada have to do with anything? I haven't even seen Hanasaku but it's the same director. Do you have a problem with how the show was directed? Don't bring up completely irrelevant people related to irrelevant aspects of something.
I have seen other works by Ando and the man is great.
Im just stating what I experienced. Everytime I get people to tell me about the film, they say that it's a cool film but that a great one either. It's definitely on my watch list though.
I dropped Hanasaku halfway through, it wasn't anything special and certainly not my cup of tea.
My point is that he isn't a particularily well talented or well known director if you compare him to a Yuasa, Oshii or Imaishi.
Hell even Yoshinari managed to become more popular than him with just one 24 min movie.