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Come on kiss
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fuck, not kiss
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>>111760507
>>111760555
Why not both?
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>>111760761
At the same time?
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>>111760834
>no doggy

bleh
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>>111761147
You can still kiss her during a doggy. How fat are you?
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>>111761440
She got me as soon as I saw her body.
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>>111761557
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>>111761597
>ruining her body with child birth
Not even once but we'd try all the time, if you know what I mean.
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>>111760507
How does one avoid getting a boner in this situation so you don't make it awkward?
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>>111760507
>HE DOESNT KNOW?!

AY LMAO
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>>111761690
You realize it's your sister.
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>>111761722
That just makes it bigger.
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>>111761693
>AY LMAO
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Get your shit together Yui.
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>>111762029
Pure love.
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>>111761276
not at all
but how is she going to turn her head around 180 like that
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>>111762172
Virgin spotted. You don't have to face her like that to kiss her.
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>>111762247
well yeah if you wanna be dribbling everywhere
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>>111761722
mfw
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>>111760507
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>>111762982
>Yui's face when and when she loses
Many anon tears were shed that day too. Fucking Kouki and his Macross style love triangles.
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>>111763304
Who won?
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>>111763571
Russian Dorru
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>>111763571
>>111763787
Don't worry she dies anyways
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>>111763787
The one with downs, or the autist?
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>>111763877
Cryska.

>>111763872
Kouki doesn't even want Mana to live Why is he such a douche?
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>>111763787
How dare Bridges betray us for this commie scum?
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>>111764497
He was following his...heart
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>>111764623
Fair enough. All's forgiven.
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Who is kouki's current waifu?
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TE fucking sucks
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>>111765257
Yeah, watching a bunch of butterbars run around isn't as tasteful as I pictured in my head.
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>>111765257
Of course it does.
I wasn't expecting it to suck that much though.
Alternative was probably a happy accident.
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>>111760507
They are brother and sister. Why do you think the Russian girls wins in the game?
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>>111765958
>Why do you think the Russian girls wins in the game?
Because we can't have nice things.
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Breast level 5
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>>111760507
was there even a kiss in this anime
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>>111765082
Mana is still his waifu.
Inia and Kasumi are still his daughterus.
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>>111766485
But that was a nice thing.
Here I was expecting obligatory Japanese beauty end as is usual in love triangles, instead I got unexpected Russian beauty end and then she dies, because I can never have good things. But at least the end makes it appear she waits for him in Valhalla.
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>>111767182
Why is it a surprise Yuimouto lost as soon as the revelation of being his baby sister came out?
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>>111767225
It's not. There is no justice in this world.
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>>111767182
>soviet fucking shits
>believing in religious things
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>>111767321
marky mark pls go
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>>111767225
Some of the stuff most discussed on /a/ involves incest ends, and that in turn gives me the impression a revelation of brotherhood wouldn't really stop anything.
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>>111767560
If incest weren't a real hindering factor it wouldn't get discussed.
Compare: lolis, monstergirls, elves, 2D, etc.
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>>111767560
>some of the stuff most discussed on /a/
>involves incest ends
Irrelevant. TE is the stepping point age wants to use to get into the mainstream for mecha fans, and wants the same audience and consumer base that Gundam and Macross has.

How do you think logically they would canonically have Yuuya end up with his blood-related half-sister?

Seriously think about this.
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>>111762029
What's her problem?
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>>111767900
>Stupid sexy oniichan!
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>>111763985
So is she the one with downs or the autist?
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>>111766710
And here I thought the fortified suits had just been censored.
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>>111767985
The autist
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>>111762029
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>>111760507
I don't know why she has a bandage in her hair, but it's cute.
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>>111762029
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>>111768757
It's hurt.
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>>111768541
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>>111768788
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>>111768836
Do you have the image where yuuya puts her sword in his mech with duct tape?
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>>111760507
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>>111768989
Possible though I have no idea where I put it.
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>TE is actually Zeta Gundam
Then who was Char
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>>111768788
Oremo end? Oremo end.
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>>111769186
The pants of an entire board went on fire in that particular episode.
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>>111769186
I'd go cavern exploring with her, if you catch my drift
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>>111767730
Well, in a general view, most incest ends I've seen feel like asspulls.
But in TE, Yui never actually told him, did she? Even though she even gave him the family sword and specified it is always passed down to the master of the household, he was all "Yeah ok thanks" and didn't understand at all what she was trying to tell him.
So, hypothetically, she could decide that her romantic feelings are more important than anything else, never tell him anything and propose while wrestling with taboo.
Such an action would brand her as selfish, self-centered, manipulative, stuff like that and maybe create a backlash. But it wouldn't be the first, and certainly not the last, time the most selfish and manipulative girl "won" in a mecha anime. The Gundam fanbase is especially used to it by now.
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>>111769130
There was no Char in Zeta, dummy.
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>>111769501
She hinted at multiple times while Yuuya was going "cool sword" when she handed over the Takamura katana to him.
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>>111769501
Gundam? Fuck, this shit is old since Starwars.
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>>111768517
What makes you think the other has downs?
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>>111768788
Is there a more accurate translation for that?
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>>111769700
She practically eats playdough when she isn't tard-raging, comeon.
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Need more PLOT
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>>111769687
>shitposting
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>>111769840
None
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>>111769934
More backstory as far as Yui is concerned
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>>111770120
Why not both?
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>>111769934
She's supposed to be 16 or 17 right? I've always wondered what they feed these Muv Luv girls to make them grow so big, so fast.
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>>111770193
Because Yui is the butt goddess.
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>>111770193
>dat ghurka
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>>111770254
17 in TE, survival of the fittest plus whatever hormones and genetically enhanced food their getting feed and their own fitness will give them such great bodies.

But Yuimouto is pretty top tier regardless of any that.
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> Happy birthday, onii-chan
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>>111769501
I've always had this feeling that Yui was never meant to be blood-related to Yuuya but they decided to shove in the half-sibling story in the VN when it came out. That and the whole food thing was meant to signal Yuuya slowing accepting his Japanese side and/or was a mere coincident that Yui's cooking style matched his.
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>>111770406
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>>111770499
It was always planned by Kouki, this was his personal project.
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>>111769501

Yui lost because she didn't have a great wingman like Cryska did.
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>>111770510
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>>111770499
Uh.

>both of their father's are coincidentally missing
>Yui happens to love cooking the same meal her missing father used to love having when he would come home
>Yuuya likes the same meal his mother cooked, because his Japanese father taught it to his mother
>Characters in the LN comment they look like siblings
It doesn't take a genius to realize the sibling plot point was always intentional on Kouki's part. They both have their dad's missing, they both happen to share the "same" exact favorite home-cooked style meal.

If they include a Yui route in the PC version, that'd be pretty boss with the incest implications.
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>>111770510
>>111770632
I wonder if Stella uses Tarisa as her plaything?
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>>111770754
>Characters in the LN comment they look like siblings
mfw you thought it was just racism at first
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>>111770802
You have weird assumptions about female friends
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>>111770879
You have weird assumptions about Stella's sexual appetite
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>>111770913
I what?
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>>111770959
She's a sex fiend, little gurkhas, Japanese doorus, Italian men, half-breed bishies, Stella loves sex.

Source: Liemei and my dad who works at age.
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>>111770619
To this day, I still don't know if I should like or hate Sandek.
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>>111771139
He means well, he just has his own way of doing things.
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>>111771139
>>111771531
He had a broship with Dogalu though
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>>111771139
He's too maliciously shrewd to trust or like.
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Jesus I didn't know TE ended the way it did with certain character relationships.

It makes me want to pick it up
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>>111772128
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>>111772444
Pick it back up I mean.
I dropped it an episode or or two after they got out of the cave, but i thought for sure Yui would win.
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>>111772704
To this day I'm still astonished the /a/ crack theory off Yui being Yuuya's unknown imouto actually ended up being true.
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>>111772929
It has a lot more evidence than the crack theory of Stella being related to Yuuya.
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>>111772877
Well it's not all that bad. It's not spectacular, but it's definitely not bad.
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>>111772929
The thing is that there were actual hints. No matter how lame they were.
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>>111773001
Honestly it was awful, plus it aired with Rogue Hero and H Dekinai, that season was an abomination. The last episode is the only one worth som shit though.
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>>111772929

I thought it was hilarious how age actually revealed it way ahead of time with their April Fool's joke >>111769166
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>>111773089
>Rogue Hero
Are you >implying something?
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>>111773196
No budget and no effort kill a show. It killed both Rogue Hero and Tortilla Chips. H Dekinai was shit to the core though.
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>>111773089
Your exaggerating, there were decent points in the anime. Not too mention Ono did his lines in the show and game when he was barely paid for only half the lines he voiced by age and Satelight.

It was fun, QUALITY aside, for the /pol/ tier discussions, frodo moments, TSFus, and what have you.
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Stupid sexy Chewy.
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>>111773354
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>>111773311
It was mostly tedious, dumb, slow and QUALITY. Nice mechas.
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>>111773309
>H Dekinai was shit to the core
Well at least we agree on something.
Brace yourself for Shinmai Maou no Keiyakusha - it's from Hagure's author, but with some details tweaked for mainstream appeal.
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I wish every anime did what that one princess anime did (in addition to another I forgot): basically a while after the anime is released, they also release an H version.

Please make this happen, Japan.
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>>111773496
>but with some details tweaked for mainstream appeal
Oh great, it's already ruined.
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>>111773597
>h version of muv luv material
Good luck with that, tovarisch.
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>>111773597
Princess lover.
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>>111773597
It's Princess Lover anon and the show was terrible. Tthe source material was an eroge so porn isn't that suprising.
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>>111773654
Yup: MC is now broody about his tragic childhood, doesn't troll tsunderes with great aplomb, is younger, there's the token loli in every chap, and the fanservice has been boosted from 'above average' to 'carrying the show'.
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>>111773036
What hints were there besides "your nikujaga tastes like my mom's"?
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>>111773597
>another I forgot
Green Green?
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>>111773806
But the H was good. Also, it seems like 50% of source material these days comes from an eroge, so I don't see a problem.
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>>111773401
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Yui is extremely cute, but I prefer Cryska.

;_;
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>>111773806
I wish they would make one for walkure romanze
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Was anyone surprised that Cryska won da yuuya bwls?

She tripped like a million deathflags so I thought Yui would end up with him in the end. Imagine my surprise when the VN turned out the way it did.
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>>111774491
>Celia animated porn
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>>111774650
A bit but I honestly didn't expect anyone to win actually. Definitely not Yui though, way too straighforward.
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>>111774650
I see it differently. Cryska tripping a million deathflags is what confirms her victory. Since the main heroine needs to die because that's the next step in attempting to mimic Alternative's plot beats.
>begin far away from the front lines
>pilots compete in mock battles and the MC learns to handle a new machine
>MC is supposed to be the hottest shit at handing mecha, but through the mistakes he makes in his hubris he will learn humility
>they move to the front lines to attack the BETA with a new superweapon powered by poorly understood BETA xenotech
>the weapon achieves great results on its first test firing, eradicating great numbers of BETA on its first shot
>however it malfunctions and refuses to work, it has to be abandoned in the field and self-destructed as BETA overrun it
>they go home and is going well back on base until some anti-government faggots decide to start a shooting incident
>the day is saved by the Americans and their F-22A Raptors and their B-1 Lancers
>later, the hero's psychic artificial human love interest dies because she is forced to go too long without a session in the floating tank
>and now it's Ouka time!
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I fapped to this picture, thanks OP
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>>111775149
Imagine princess-carrying the lieutenant, and feeling her perfect skin rubbing all over your arms. Digging your fingers in her healthy thighs, and her large breasts bouncing up and down and rubbing ever-so-lightly on your chest.
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>>111775336
I don't think I can fap twice in a row
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>>111760507
They seriously upgraded Yui's tits in the anime, didn't they.
She was more modest in the LN.
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>>111773421
But it was fun.
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>>111775668
That's sure modest.
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>>111774939
>>MC is supposed to be the hottest shit at handing mecha, but through the mistakes he makes in his hubris he will learn humility
Yuuya was capable of taking out multiple Raptor pilots while out-numbered with a Eagle.

He was hot shit, the problem was American TSFs are not compatible to Japanese TSFs. That was one of the sillier points of the story, that Yui expected Yuuya to automatically accustom to Japanese TSFs instantly and doesn't account for the fact American and Japanese Eishi train their whole lives for a specific type of piloting.
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>>111775668
They did to everyone. And anime adaptions always blow up bust size's.

>>111775806
Compared to Ayamine, Stella, Cryska, Sharon, and most other girls in Muv-Luv? She's not that big, whole appeal for Yui was her legs/ass/hips/thighs.
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>>111774650
A major subplot is Yuuya coming to terms with his Japanese heritage, so I thought that the next step would be falling for the Japanese girl,.
So yes, I was surprised. Pleasantly if I might add, as I liked Cryska best and there was really no need to drive the point past home.
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>>111776001
Everyone forecasted Cryska winning with 99% of crossover appereances between TE and Alt placing Yui overwhelmingly with Meiya and Cryska with Sumika.

Not too mention her appearances on the illustrative art and promotional works with Yuuya was less then either Scarlet Twin.
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>>111774939
I've always wondered why people say TE is shit and spat in the face of MLverse when it was very similar to MLA in both narrative and execution.
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>>111776301
It was just based off how low budget the anime was, the bad pacing, and the one real negative factor for TE being it blends all of the good and BAD elements from Extra/Unlimited/Alt into one compressed story.

LNs are good, TE Rising manga is great, VN was nice but should've had more content and the budgeting issues come into play with a lot of incomplete stuff like having to have briefing scenes overlayed in space or on the sky because they didn't have the time or money to do it the same they did in Alt.
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>>111776301
Anime because it was low budget, badly paced, and had poor cinematography (to list one example, all those times the BETA just ran on the spot and didn't actually get any closer, or when the TSFs seemed to be firing at nothing since there was no visible impact of their shots on any BETA like in this shot towards the start of episode 13, the Grapplers are literally standing there and the Zuikakus are firing and not appearing to actually hit anything, we don't see the path of any tracers or anything), wonky pacing like how stretched-out the whole "Yuuya learns to not fly a Zero the way he would fly a Hellcat" thing was, or having two beach episodes instead of one even though absolutely nothing happened in those episodes, or four whole episodes in a row when they made you think that the BETA were right outside the base when it actually took four episodes for them to get there, or how long they spent on useless filler shit in between fighting Miku and the terrorist attack, etc.
VN because they only read a synopsis instead of reading it themselves
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>>111775896
Yuuya actually mastered the Shiranui ridiculously quickly when he learned to stop being stubborn and hung-up over his daddy issues and actually took into account the differences in design philosophy instead of continuing to complain that the engines were underpowered or the aerodynamic control surfaces were too sensitive.
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>>111776916
Of course he did. Yuuya is special in a similar way Takeru and Hibiki are special.

Point was, Yui criticisms were designed to be necessarily harsh and unrealistic to egg and piss Yuuya off to prove her wrong. It was reverse psychology.
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>>111762029
>>111768788
Are you people actually saying that she was Yuuyas sister? That's not true is it?
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>>111777098
Speculah since mid-way into the show, TE Spoiler Guy posted screen-caps and translated from the VN confirming.

Same dad, different mom's. Embrace all that motherly FREEDOM.
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>>111776977
>Point was, Yui criticisms were designed to be necessarily harsh and unrealistic to egg and piss Yuuya off to prove her wrong.
Except that his idea of proving her wrong was to try and prove the entire basis of Japanese mecha design was fundamentally incorrect.

Though the point he tries to make is not wrong in my opinion, making your army's mainline machine one that is difficult to control extends time needed for training before a trainee can become competent, it raises the minimum standards that a recruit needs to meet in order to become a trainee to fly TSFs, and it increases the number of casualties caused by pilot error.

It's the difference between making a weapon intended for a soldier, and a weapon intended for a samurai.

It's actually mentioned in TSFIA later that the end result of marrying high powered American-made General Electric engines to the Shiranui's design to create the Shiranui Second was a machine that was

>nearly impossible to pilot effectively without a skilled and experienced veteran at its controls. But in the hands of such pilots, who are able to bring out the true performance of these untamed horses, become an unmatched force of nature of nearly unstoppable proportions.

In other words, in my opinion, a piss-poor choice for an extensively mass-produced flagship mainline fighter for the grunts of the Imperial Army.
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>>111777582
>the grunts of the Imperial Army
They have Gekishin for those suckers.
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Anyone got the (full) lineup for the latest DOB illustration poll?
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>>111777582
>If only veterans can properly utilize a technology, it's shit

I will never understand this logic.
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>>111777780
No, that's the UN.

IJA gets Kagerous and Shiranuis, the Valkyries only got Shiranuis because of Yuuko's connections and political alliances. Average grunt in the UN at best gets a Strike Eagle, most of the Gekishins we saw in Alt were used by UN forces.
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>>111777888
Veteran Eishi are a minority in TSF forces. Put two and two together.
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>>111778003
That still does nothing to make them bad mechs or
>expensive coffins

I'm not seeing the logic here.
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>>111773806

You know what the weird thing about the Princess Lover anime was? The main character of the anime was actually WAY better! The show still sucked, yeah, but Teppei as a motorcycle-riding samurai was way more interesting than the total faggot he is in the game.

Walkure Romanze is weird in that the protagonist of the game is basically the nicest guy ever. In the anime, he's a cypher.
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>>111777947
>IJA gets Kagerous and Shiranuis
They only procured about 200 Kagerous in total. They still have plenty of Gekishins. Remember the Imperial Army Gekishins we see standing alongside the Kagerous when they showed up and surrounded Yokohama Base during Sagiri's coup? Or the Gekishins painted in Imperial Army gray that were rescued by Ikaruga and Tsukuyomi at Sadogashima? Or the Imperial Army Gekishin units you control in Faraway Dawn.
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>>111778125
I didn't say IJA doesn't use Gekishins or had phased them out yet but the Fubuki was in a transitory stage to replace the Gekishin.

The average IJN Eishi is still more likely to have a Shiranui or Kagerou or vanilla Eagle then the Gekishin. Japanese UN forces besides Yuuko's Valkyries all had quasi-3rd gen Eagles and Gekishins.
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>>111777888
It's why the world decided guns were better than longbows.
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>>111778065
Because a veteran pilot whose survived longer hours in both training and combat gets to know the inns and outs of their TSF, its movements, its performance, how to push it and when not to push it, and so on.

A rookie doesn't. Yuuya's argument was they were making it too technically complex for the average new Eishi to master.
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>>111778065
Not everyone in your army is a veteran, every frontline fighter in muv-luv needs a mecha, have a mecha that only veterans can use effectively leads to either a lot of wasted mecha destroyed by rookie error or a frontline of veterans only that will leave you with a shortage of experienced pilots pretty damn fast.
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Yui, Cryska and Inia are my waifus.
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>>111777888
>>111778065
It's fine if you do a more limited production run for your specially trained veteran shock units or spec ops forces or something. The Imperial Royal Guard is doing great with their Takemis (even if production is so slow that there's still Guardsmen using Zuikakus)
But taking a machine that you need extensive experience in to use properly and trying to make it the backbone of your forces is only asking for trouble. It makes it take longer for a cadet to learn how to use it, which increases training time and costs, and will likely get inexperienced pilots killed more easily than if they had a less complex machine.
Look how crossbows displaced longbows and changed the face of archery in warfare.

>>111778197
>the Fubuki was in a transitory stage to replace the Gekishin.
IIRC they're only considering it, they're not actually doing it yet.
It's supposed to be on its way out but since you don't just throw away perfectly working machines, there are still very many Gekishins in the army, they're just slated to be pulled away from the frontlines and put on guard duty instead.
>vanilla Eagle
IJA doesn't have vanilla Eagles man. Only Kagerous as far as the F-15 frame is concerned.
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>>111778566
>multiple waifus

>>111778593
No, they are planning it and going to implement it in the near future. The Fubuki simply needs a more powerful engine and the IJN hasn't settled yet on what replacement to use.
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>>111778593
Kagerou is a vanilla Eagle, it just has a modified OS to allow it to use melee halberds and engage in close-combat more effectively.

Its a variant of the normal Eagle made and tailored for Japanese use, no other performance difference with the normal F-15. The Strike Eagle on the other hands, is a different beast.
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>>111778566
Are ants supposed to fap to this?
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>>111778197
>Fubuki was in a transitory stage to replace the Gekishin.
You mean the Shiranui. Why would they be replacing the Gekishit with training units? And the only thing it lacks apart from the Shiranui is the fuel capacity
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>>111778683
Well, the way >>111778197 phrased it implied that the IJA had both F-15J and F-15C and considered them separate.
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>>111778719
No, its the Gekishin.

The Shiranui is being eventually phased out by the Shiranui Second once the experimental stage with the prototype Nigatas is done being fielded by the Not-Valkyries.

The Gekishin is going to be replaced by combat ready Fubukis, which will supplement the Kagerous, Shiranuis, Shiranui Seconds (near future), and a special usage of Gekkous.

>>111778761
They are. According to IW, the Japanese did not have Strike Eagles, which is why the rebels were surprised American Strike Eagles were holding their own against the Shiranui.
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>>111778566
Inia > all the rest
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>>111778719
>And the only thing it lacks apart from the Shiranui is the fuel capacity
The main thing it lacks compared to the Shiranui is being a decent fighter.

Seriously in Faraway Dawn it has less AP than the goddamn Gekishin and is only partially offset by its lower turning cost. It also has poorer HP than the Kagerou, poorer armor than the Kagerou, and poorer than the Kagerou.

To be a decent fighter it needs better engines, better fuel capacity, and better armor.

>>111778890
The funny part is that the Shiranuis were supposed to be replacing the Gekishins. They haven't even finished replacing the Gekishins yet and they want to replace the Shiranuis. Which leads to this situation where the Shiranuis will be replaced by Seconds and the Gekishins may be replaced by upgraded Fubukis. Will the Fubukis eventually be replaced by Seconds too?

>>111778890
>They are. According to IW, the Japanese did not have Strike Eagles, which is why the rebels were surprised American Strike Eagles were holding their own against the Shiranui.
No, the Japanese have the F-15J Kagerou. They do not have the vanilla F-15C Eagle. Although the F-15J is basically an F-15C with reinforced joints to support the repetitive controlled crashing that is melee combat. Both are inferior the American F-15E Strike Eagle.
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>>111779077
*and poorer evasion than the Kagerou
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>>111779077
Japan needs to get its shit together. Their TSFs are a clusterfuck.
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>>111779169
That's what happens when you're a non-superpower frontline nation that's trying to create its own designs instead of manufacture American or Russian designs under license, and you can't afford to throw away perfectly working Gekishins.
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>>111777863
Anyone?
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>>111777206
>Mira and Latrova threesome hscene
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>>111779169
>>111779373
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>>111779039
Inia a shit.
Psycho bitch that schlicks to bad memories. The most evil person in TE, no doubt.
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>>111779597
>Although the Zuikaku was planned to be succeeded by the Type-00 Takemikazuchi following 2000, they remain in use by the 1st, 2nd, and 24th Guard Regiments due to the Type-00's low procurement rates.
Hah.
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>>111779698
Then why did she end up with Yuuya in the end?
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>>111779760
aren't talking about design?
we know that they aren't rich like russia and 'murica
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>>111779878
What?
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>>111780042
You know he's tapping dat loli ass as a substitute for Cryska.
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>>111779931
We were talking about procurement problems. The Shiranui became obsolete before they were able to replace all their Gekishins with Shiranui.
Now imagine an alternate universe where they just manufactured the F-15J under license to replace their Gekishins.
Then say in 2002 they take up Boening's offer to buy the license to manufacture F-15SEJs.
Think of all the R&D costs they've saved compared to going with Shiranuis.
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>>111780042
At the very end of the game he's ended up being Inia's partner and they're gradually getting closer.
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>>111780102
Yuuya isn't like VG though. If he's going around fucking people Stella should have been near the top of his list, everyone saw how much she wanted that half-breed D.
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>>111779533
>not Mira with Stella and Latrova foursome scene
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>>111779077
The F-15J is literally the F-15C converted for domestic use by the Japanese. You have the equivalent Eagle with the same or similar OS for melee combat used by UN and European forces as well.

>>111779169
The Shiranui uses parts from the Type-00C, the Shiranui 1C was never fully integrated either and the Takemikazuchis main difference in performance is due to the availability of replacement parts and avionics.

Japan literally is less organized then any major power besides the Chinese.
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>>111781101
He was probably thinking along the lines of milfs, but that isn't bad either.
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>>111781196
>The F-15J is literally the F-15C converted for domestic use by the Japanese.
I never denied that. But the way >>111778197 says
>a Shiranui or Kagerou or vanilla Eagle
would imply that the IJA has F-15Js which are Cs modded for close combat, as well as completely unmodded vanilla Cs operating alongside them, which is not the case. The phrasing implies distinction between the Kagerou and the vanilla Eagle on the basis of this difference.
That's the point I contended.
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>>111781276
TE had a lot of attractive older women.

>Mira
>Stella
>Yui's mom (Senna)
>Kyoko
>Latrova
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>>111781389
How old is Stella?
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>>111781815
Older then Tarisa whose 24
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>>111773899

Yuuyas dad disappeared right around when Yuuya was 4-6. Yuimouto is 4-6 years younger.
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>>111781389
>routes and h-scenes for all of them
TE would be the best mubrub since Unlimited.
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>>111781916
No

Yuuya turns 22 between the last timeskip of a few months when Ouka goes down and he fights at Evinsk with Zhar Battalion remnants and Inia

Yui = 17-18
Yuuya = 21-22

He's 3-4 years older then her at most. In fact, he signs up to join the Army when he was underaged at 16 in 1998.

So 3 years older then Yui give or take a few months.
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That whole scene, man


I have a thing for cute girls getting hurt, that whole fucking scene was great
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What fucking nationality is this guy? Because he's a top tier character
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>>111782207
He's a burger
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>>111781998
>sexualizing Momma

>>111782137
Can you imagine the sheer tightness of getting inside of Yui? Feeling her thighs clench while riding you?

Or the the softness of her ass as she bounces up and down off one's dick?
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>>111782292
>>sexualizing Momma
She's a walking sex bomb.
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>>111782207
He's fucking Albert Wesker.
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Imagine if there was a good Muv-Luv anime.

AyuMayu theatre doesn't count.
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>>111782418
I rather liked Muv Luv Alternative.

Though I think I looked too hard into. Like, subtext that wasn't there.
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>>111782387
That is a trait in most Russian women I've seen in anime.
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Americans:
>Keep the entire world supplied with weapons
>Feed the entire resistance effort
>Take no shit from anyone, planned to blow up part of Alaska (fuck the commies)
>Have hands down, the best TSF's
>The best pilots
>Even the Japanese TSF's are modeled after the American ones

I thought this show was supposed to be "NIPPON STRONG"
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>>111782500
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>>111782563
>I thought this show was supposed to be "NIPPON STRONG"
But it is.
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>>111782563
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>>111780349
Best girl.
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>>111782563
I feel kind of cheated that the RLF incident preempted the Blue Flag match between Argos and the Infinites. I was looking forward to Yuuya exploiting his intimate knowledge of the Raptor's characteristics somehow.
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>>111782667
>Raptor has to be hacked
>Weapons systems powered down
>By American CIA and Alt V inflitrator in Walken's squad for Sagiri to stand a chance
>Kouki mocks Japanese right-wing followers and ultra-nationalists
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>>111782718
I would have loved to have seen that. I mean, I know in the back of my head, Argos flight was going to win, because they've got plot armor, but we really didn't get to see the Raptors in action, which is bullshit
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>>111782718
Yuuya raped a Raptor with a fucking F-15C.
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>>111782885
>Yuuya raped three Raptors with a fucking F-15C
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>>111782919
>>111782885
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>>111782885
You sure it wasn't an F-15E?
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>Watch the first two episodes of this
>God damn, this is going to be grim and dark as fuck
>MC established
>The rest of the show is nothing like that

I mean, I liked it, but what happened to the direction? It seems like they did a huge 180 on cute girls being eaten alive
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>>111782974
Kouki just narrates it as an Eagle
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>>111779878
He's taking place Cryska's place of taking care of her.
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>>111782885
>>111782919
Well that impressive.
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>>111782581
>This is my Kalashnikov. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
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>>111783077
Hard to do that when Yuuya is implied to be in a coma if the ending is trying any harder in the VN to emulate Zeta
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>>111783017
The first two episodes were entirely anime-original and tonally more in-line with late game Alternative or Schwarzesmarken than with Total Eclipse.
It's like if The Shinji Ikari Raising Project had a couple of clips from The End of Evangelion shoved in at the start for no reason.
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>>111783135
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>>111782919
Why is a guy like that only a test pilot?
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>>111783054
He could just be being lazy. I won't be convinced until I play the game myself.
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>>111783213
Because he's Top Gun, and also because his grandpa, Grandpa Bridges, uses military connections with some old buddies to keep Yuuya behind the lines. And its the same reason as well why Yuuya was chosen over Leon to be the main test pilot for the XFJ project.
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>>111783213
Age and inexperience.

Most of the best pilots are test pilots. See: Scarlet Twins, Guylos McCloud, Yuuya,
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>>111783140
How is it implied that hes in a coma when they both charge into a bunch of Beta in the end of the VN?
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>>111783213
You ever watched Top Gun?
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>>111783213
Being skilled as fuck is a requirement for being a test pilot.
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>>111783304
Uh the Infinities actively were involved in combat operations and blackworks stuff against the Soviets, so I doubt they were a pure "test flight" of trainers.

And the King of Eishi is clearly GOAT.
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>>111783198
you better keep this up grunt, make mother proud.
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>>111783376
Watch Zeta
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>>111783255
>Guylos McCloud
It's been a year and I still cannot take that name seriously.
What the fuck
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>>111783213
Are you joking? It's because he's a guy like that that he's a test pilot. Test pilots need to be the best of the best because they need to be able to handle experimental barely-tested designs and not die. They need a stronger knowledge of engineering and aerodynamics than your average pilot, and a hot hand on the stick.
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>>111783475
>grunt
Tasha is a pog.
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I like Yuuya more than Takeru.
Come @ me.

>>111783424
He said most, not all. The best of the best are often test pilots.
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GET ON YA GOD DAMN WHORE
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It should be forbidden for Russian supersoldiers to be so cute.
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I'm actually having fun making these
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>>111777582
Why doesn't Yuuya just shut up and do his goddamn job?
There are reasons the Japanese prefer this oversensitive control setup and high maneuverability - you would need those for TSFs focused on melee combat. As a test pilot Yuuya's is supposed to understanding the end user's requirements and ensure the product meets those requirements, not yell as loudly as he can that the customers are morons. As the Shiranui Second's test pilot he's supposed to run the machine through specific flight maneuvers to gather data on its flight characteristics and push the envelope to make sure the machine is working as it was supposed to.
Instead he is dead set that the Japanese TSFs are inferior, shitty, and that it isn't his fault he can't make it work but the machine's fault for being Japanese and not American.
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>>111784141
>Why doesn't Yuuya just shut up and do his goddamn job?
Because drama and American values.
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>>111784141
>Instead he is dead set that the Japanese TSFs are inferior

They are though
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>>111784115
Can you imagine how huge Guylos' dick is?
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>>111784141
He just wants his Raptor-chan back.
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>>111784352
I want a Raptor too.
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>>111784469
Seriously, put yourself in Yuuya's shoes. Every second he spends test flying the Shiranui is a second in which he is reminded that he is not test flying the Raptor, just some mongrel japanese doll design.
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>>111783490
Muv luv aint gundam.
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>>111784115
R.I.P. Sugita.
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>>111776977
>Point was, Yui criticisms were designed to be necessarily harsh and unrealistic to egg and piss Yuuya off to prove her wrong.
>"As someone of the same race, I find that haughty attitude unpleasant and upsetting. You are, yes... an embarrassment to the Japanese people."
If a white officer were to say to a mixed race soldier that they were an embarrassment to white people, he'd be under charges so fast heads would spin. If Yuuya were to make a formal complaint about racism, he would be justified. Furthermore, this has absolutely nothing to do with the task at hand, which is the XFJ project. What the fuck does being Japanese - or not Japanese - have to do with the flight tests?
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>>111784566
THE SHIRANUI SECOND WAS MODELED AFTER AMERICAN TSF'S

Wasn't it even built by NOT Boeing?
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>>111784469
Buy the kit.
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>>111784751
The Shiranui Second was an attempt to upgrade the Shiranui, which the Japanese failed at doing themselves. It was a joint between not Mitsubishi, Fuji, Kawasaki, and Boeing. Which is to say, it was Mitsubishi, Fuji, and Kawasaki begging Boeing for help.

The first phase was basically a Shiranui 1C with American-manufactured high efficiency components and high power General Electric FE140-GE-100 engines to improve uptime and engine power.

The second phase was when Boeing shoved in all stuff they learned from building the Active Eagle like AESA radar, IR acquisition, auxilliary thrusters, faster mount pylons etc.

At the time he was bitching about the Shiranui, Yuuya was still flying the Phase 1 where most of the changes made were upgraded internal components. The actual airframe and overall design is still 100% Japanese.
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>>111784601
Thanks for the laugh.

>>111785075
The Shiranui 1C Phase 1 was Yuuya adjusting to it after a lot of the hardware was changed. Namely not-Boeing replacing its boost engines and internal avionics.

Which saw a 15% increase in performance and a 30% increase in structural integrity and durability. Its comparable to the Type-00C at this point.

The reason why the standard Shiranui 1C didn't replace the Shiranui as even a "commander" type TSF was because it was as complicated to repair and maintain as the Takemikazuchis.
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>>111784469
>You will never get to confess your feelings to Raptor-chan
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Mana is my waifu.
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>>111777888
A finky machine barely under control is a terrible design, and this is shit they should be looking to eliminate. Not embracing due to some cultural jingoism. Yui comes off looking like a nationalist zealot while Yuuya appears to be looking at things from a rational military perspective as an easier to control and pilot machine will speed pilot training, reduce accidents, and improve combat effectiveness by allowing the pilot to just fly, not worry about keeping the machine in check.

Take the Hellcat in WWII. It was an unremarkable fighter in all areas except that it was legendary easy to fly even at the edge of its performance, and rugged. This allowed even average pilots to push it safely which in combat resulted in better performance. The pilot focused on the fight, not on keeping his aircraft under control or worrying it would fall apart on him. Japanese Zeroes were repeatedly trounced by it do to their unreliable mechanicals and weak build even though they were supposed to be super super twitchy and maneuverable in a dogfight.

It would appear that in ML the Japanese learned very little from WWII.

This is also the entire point of modern fly by wire systems. If the Japanese TSF are unstable and require active pilot work to keep functional that’s a design flaw plain and simple. The control system is incompetently designed and no up to spec, they should keep the machine stable and simply allow the pilot to focus on the fight. The Japanese seem to have come to blindly accept the idiocy of requiring a pilot to fight his machine for control in some misguided “warrior spirit" bullshit.

Yui then resorts to nonsensical bullshit about how old pilots made due with worse, as if this somehow excuses the bad design. This is like arguing that we should accept a modern car without seatbelt or airbags because “old drivers survived without those”.

Why don’t you just go run at some BETA with a bloody katanah then? It was good enough for your ancestors.
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>>111785615
>You will never have a threesome with Yuimouto and Rival chan as Yuuya
>You will never have a threesome with Meiya and Yuuhi as Takeru
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>>111785638
This brings to mind a quote by the leading Jet ace post World War II Epstein when lamenting the switch over to 4th generation fighters with fly by wire systems:

>You are not flying F-16, F-16 flies itself from its computer. You are only one of many inputs to the computer of the F-16. Me myself, as a pilot, I need the feelings. I need to enjoy the flight, and in F-16… you miss it. It’s not exactly the same. With the Mirage every flight is enjoyable, F-16 you can have unbelievable achievements, but the feeling is not the same.

This kind of wistful nostalgia appears to be the driving force behind Japanese TSF philosophy going by Yui's nonsense about how "a man and his horse are one", so no wonder their stuff got plowed in the ass by the Strike Eagle and the Raptor in the 12/5 Incident. Too bad Yuuya got a taste of that feeling while swordfighting Yui and it gave him the strangest boner and he got addicted.
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>>111785800
>Too bad Yuuya got a taste of that feeling while swordfighting Yui and it gave him the strangest boner and he got addicted.
He just mistook his arousal for the Nigata for his lust for his imouto.

An honest man's mistake.
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>You will never protect Yuuya's smile
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>>111785638
The fact that Yui was flying fatass 1G fighters throughout her flashbacks which are much less overwrought and finicky compared to the homegrown Japanese Fubuki makes the whole thing much more hilariously hypocritical. She never had to master the Fubuki herself, she was trained in Gekishins, so she doesn't get to criticize Yuuya for not doing the same.
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>>111786232
Yui trained in a Gekishin but she used a Kai Zuikaku during the invasion of Japan in 1998. The standard Zuikaku shits on the Gekishin pretty hard.
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>>111766485
>positive traits have just as much of a chance popping up as negative traits do.
Whoever made this has no idea how genetics works.
That said, the rest of the arguments are still valid.
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>>111786315
Sure, but it's not as finicky as the Fubuki, since it's basically a Gekishin that was given more powerful drive system and less weighty armor.
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>>111786490
The Gekishin is faster then the Fubuki.
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>>111786541
So?
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>>111779597
>Still no proper scan
Come the FUCK on it's been YEARS
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>>111785638
>It would appear that in ML the Japanese learned very little from WWII.
Because fighting against American carrier aircraft in the 40s is exactly like fighting endless hordes of alien monsters in the 90s, right?
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>>111786952
>>111779597
Are Muv Luv Alternative and Muv Luv Alternative total eclipse Manga's, do they follow the same story line with the same characters?
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>>111786027
>You will never protect Inia's smile
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>>111785638
Someone's projecting.
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>>111787035
>you will never protect Mother Russia's smile
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>>111787498
>Couldn't even protect the smile of all her "children"
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>>111787545
Right, because she could have prevented Sandek and Rogofsky from using and betraying her, right?
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>>111787751
Would not mother, anon
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>>111787545
Most of them survived, actually. Including pic related for that matter.
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>>111788033
Why are all the zhars so cute?
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>>111788033
They ALL died. They were completely wiped out.
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>>111789711
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>>111769016
She seriously looks pissed.

>>111769122
I didn't know that Inia was a perv, who would have thunk?
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>>111790591
She is pissed. She doesn't understand why she has feelings for Yuuya, and is still doing her "I'm going to act like a cold bitch to my best pilot because I'm betting it all on him to save the human race so I must mold him into a hero" thing.
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>>111789880
except in the game and anime they say the squadron is completely whipped out.
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>>111791097
What is lying to cover up failed power politics for $500, Alex?
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>>111791369
and what has never playing the game, nor watching the anime for $1000 Alex?
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>>111792128
Indeed, you haven't done either of those.
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>>111792162
I want to see the Colonel with her hair down in her BDU.
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>>111791369
>expecting people to live
>in BETAverse
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>>111792162
The Lt. Col. is looking pretty good for an old lady.
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>>111785496
Excellent taste, she is a classy lady.
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>>111773925
Fuck that doujin.
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>>111792275
But I have anon.
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>>111767182
Is this the PC version of Total Eclipse VN?
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>>111793698
No. It's just that the console version has the same file structure as other age games, which made it possible to extract the CGs.
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>>111793698
That got delayed to September.
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>>111791097
>except in the VN where its showed most of the Zhar Battalion survived
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>>111795479
I'd her köttbullarna.
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>>111795479
>Mom?!
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>>111769186
damn i didnt know the simpsons featured this kind of ass
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>>111793698
>>111793788
>>111794836
So are the CGs up and available on sadpanda?

I can't believe it got delayed again,are they adding multiple routes?

Will PC add a route for Christmas cake Stella and Yui as well?
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>>111796452
No, no, and no. I think KNG has them, but if he doesn't, just rip them yourself.
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>>111796457
I miss the anatomically correct fortified suits... Why did they get rid of them?
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>>111777863
Anyone?
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>>111797099
Sept. 18th, Yamashiro Kazusa (TE)

Group A:
Sept. 3rd, Kajiyama Midori (Soko ni Umi ga Atte)
Sept. 6th, Tat'yana Belskaya (TE)
Sept. 7th, Tsujimura Akiyo (KgNE)
Sept. 12th, Irina Pyatkh
Sept. 14th, Kawasaki Mai (Soko ni Umi ga Atte)
Sept. 24th, Lee Linmei (TE)
Sept. 27th, Ayamine Kei
Sept. 28th, Jerzy Sandek (TE)

Group B:
Sep. 1st, Oosuga Kenzou (KgIK)
Sept. 5th, Kashiwagi Kenji (Haruko Maniax)
Sept. 9th, Tsukuyomi Maya
Sept. 10th, Makabe Sukerokurou (TDA)
Sept. 13th, Sone (Soko ni Umi ga Atte)
Sept. 22nd, Lunateresia von Witzleben (Eurofront)
Sept. 23rd, Yamaguchi (TE)
Sept. 30th, Litvinenko (TE)

Group C:
Sept. 2nd, Ogata Yuunagi (Soko ni Umi ga Atte)
Sept. 4th, Lou Yahua (TE)
Sept. 8th, Irisdina Bernhard (Schwarzesmarken)
Sept. 11th, Koshino Gorou (Warinaki)
Sept. 20th, Tsukiji Tae
Sept. 21st, Kusumoto Sayaka (TDA)
Sept. 25th, Touda Hiroshi (Anonymous)
Sept. 26th, Gohda Jouji (Akane Maniax)

No group D.
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>>111796457
Stella looks so much better with nipples at the end of her big fat tits.
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>>111797568
I mean the screencap with the four character icons.
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>>111797634
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>>111797711
I hope Best Germany wins.
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>>111798175
Gwen Stacy is american
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>>111798408
Why everyone keep saying she looks like Spiderman's waifu? I don't see the resemblance.
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>>111797711
Where's the fourth charac--?

>>111797568
>No group D.

WAT
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>>111798744
It happened in July too. There's simply not enough characters sometimes.
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>>111785638
I don't get what this guy is trying to say.
The existence of the Shiranui came from the fact that 1 F-4J was able to take out 2 F-15s, which provided substance to the argument that Japanese Eishis need Japanese TSFs to fight with, in order to bring out their full potential.

Also, this applied to everyone around the world, since the Europeans, the Chinese, the Soviets, the Middle easterns all went on to divert away from American designs, because they know what is needed to fight the BETA. Even the Americans came up with a close combat design, but since it didn't fit in with what they saw as their combat doctrine, they went with the F-22.
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>>111799213
Read it again then. That anon is basically saying an easy to use machine is better than a hard to use machine. And the whole reason why the rest of the world switched to melee designs is because their supply situation is crap. The US doesn't need melee as much because, just like in real life, they have good logistics. What is needed to fight the BETA isn't some kind of melee design but an actual working logistics system. Range is always superior to melee when fighting BETA.
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>>111799213
The Marine Corps emphasizes close-quarters-combat and melee fighting skills for their Eishi heavily, going by the TSFiA and the TDA series.

Same with a couple squadrons in the US Army, like the training flight of US veteran Eishi who were some elite unit that the Infinites embarrassed because of the Raptors' stealth superiority.

The reason Americans don't put a heavy emphasis and actually shy away from modifying the OS of their TSFs or refining dedicated close-combat weapons is because the war is still an abstract thing to the US.

The BETA dominate Europe, Asia, the Near East/Middle East, hit Japan, and is being held off from entering North Africa. North America is untouched (barring a certain nuclear wasteland in Canada). So the war is approached from a detached tactical and strategic vantage.

If Canada was taken and the Northern borders of the US were barely holding, their approach to close combat would be muuuuuch different.
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>>111799923
That's precisely the part that makes no sense. To a person who has never touched a TSF before, how can it be hard to use? Once they have learnt it, can they not move it the way they want it to and get more performance out of it? It's like you're saying since there are automatic cars and manual cars, and manual cars are hard to learn, there's no need to make or learn to use manual cars at all. However, any driver can tell you that manual cars will always perform better and fast than manual ones.

And for your other point, the US is not involved in most of the conflicts around the world. They only get involved when they have an ensured logistics trail, so its like they only fight when they can win. Otherwise, they just pull out. American Heroes are made when the pilots refuse to pull out despite orders, and continue to fight beyond the supply line.

>>111800442
The Marine Corps trains to be more proficient at knife level combat...which isn't the same thing as melee with a sword. It's meant to serve as a secondary attack, not as a primary attack. However, as mentioned above, at least the Marines, which are nearly the only American forces that are fighting the BETA, know how to engage the BETA with nothing but a bar of steel in their hands.
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>>111800722
>Marines
>the only American force that are fighting the BETA
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>>111800852
Does the American army have specific TSF's for specific branches?

Like Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines
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>>111800889
Yes. The US military branches that exist in Muv-Luv are Army, Navy, and Marine Corps, I believe the Air Force is merged with the Army.
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>>111800953
The Air Force still exists, they just don't have any TSFs so you don't see them much.
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>>111800722
Are you fucking stupid? There is a difference between something that was designed for someone to be able to use with a month of training versus something that would take an entire year to master. Do you not realize they are fighting a war of survival in which they are losing? They do not have the leisure to spend years mastering a TSF. In this situation a TSF that someone could learn to use with minimal training is for more important in saving humanity's ass than something that takes years to learn how to use. In battle, one dude would be able to use their TSF fine and survive while the other dude can barely control it and as a result, gets fucking chomped.
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>>111800889
Misread your question. I think so, the Navy has two variants of the Tomcat not including the Super Tomcat and the Hornet.

The Marines have the Hornet/Super Hornet. And the Army has the Eagle, Strike Eagle, Falcon, and Raptor.

>>111801074
They don't. really exist given how they don't possess any TSFs and are relegated to high altitude observation or strategic bombing.

They exist only in name.
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>>111801186
>high altitude observation or strategic bombing
So they do exist.
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>>111801218
The main branches are the Army, Navy, and Marine Corps so they don't matter either way.
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>>111801152
>In this situation a TSF that someone could learn to use with minimal training is for more important than something that takes years to learn how to use
>one dude would be able to use their TSF fine and survive while the other dude can barely control it and as a result, gets fucking chomped.
Is this guy serious? He's saying that a pilot should train in less than a month, then goes on to say that the better pilot would survive better than one who is barely trained.

Have you taken your pills, anon?
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>>111801601
Dude, learn to fucking read. Realize that the humans are fighting a war of attrition in which they are LOSING. They do not have time to wait for pilots to master their TSFs. They need them now to replenish their losses. Again, they do not have time to waste. One TSF, an American one, takes a month to master while another one, a Japanese one, takes a year to master. To contain the BETA, they have to brought to the frontlines in six months. In six months, when they are brought into combat, the American TSF has been mastered while the Japanese one has not. In other words, one dude survives and one dude gets chomped. You get it now?
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>>111802718
All I get is that you are making baseless assumptions about things you know nothing about. Show me where it states everything you dreamed of about TSF training in your post.
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Given the chance I wouldn't stop fucking her.
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>>111776001

>So yes, I was surprised. Pleasantly if I might add, as I liked Cryska best and there was really no need to drive the point past home.

I didn't think much of Cryska until the Kamchatka arc, and then I started really liking her, after she thought Yuuya was reading her mind
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>>111804438
I honestly thought that was a reference to Steins;Gate for a second
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>>111804244
This is true for so many Tortilla Chips. Even Tarisa, and pettanko characters don't normally do much for me.
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>>111804244

Yui chewie is delicious

It's funny how everyone used to hate her at the beginning
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>>111799213
>1 F-4J was able to take out 2 F-15s
I don't understand that part. The Zuikaku being able to take out the Eagle was almost a miracle born out of unconventional use of tactics. The Eagles won all subsequent matches and even in that first match it was evident that the Eagles were capable of flying circles around the Zuikakus.
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>>111800722
>And for your other point, the US is not involved in most of the conflicts around the world.
I think you missed the part where the US Army is heavily garrisoned in frontline bases all over the world to fight alongside local forces, and the Navy's carrier battle groups and the Marines are stationed all over the world and frequently fight on the front lines alongside the locals.

>They only get involved when they have an ensured logistics trail, so its like they only fight when they can win. Otherwise, they just pull out.
There is nothing to suggest that they just drop everything and run away the moment supply lines are disrupted, stop talking out of your ass. The situation in the BETA invasion of Japan was completely untenable and even Isumi agreed that withdrawing was the correct strategic decision.
Besides, if you do run out of ammo and fuel and absolutely cannot be resupplied, falling back is the correct decision to make. Fighting without supplies is just begging to be wiped out. This has consistently been the case since antiquity.
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>>111801186
>They don't. really exist given how they don't possess any TSFs and are relegated to high altitude observation or strategic bombing.
>They exist only in name.
The US Air Force has over 1200 strategic bombers, that's quite a bit more than "in name only". This is not counting the fact that they're responsible for the US armed forces' heavy transport aircraft.
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>>111799213
Dude, it's not even about close combat or long range combat, it's about how the Shiranui is a bastard to handle because it's too goddamn twitchy. TSFIA#26 Heritage of Valkyries explicitly states that the Shiranui Second is impossible to fly effectively without a skilled and experienced veteran.
And in a long-standing war of attrition, skilled and experienced veterans are exactly what you don't have that many of.
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>>111804244
Too bad Ishigaki's last doujin of TE was her getting mind-broken, with floppy tits, and turned into a rape-slut.
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>>111806324
I'm surprised at how positively the US is portrayed in MLA. Coming from series like Majikoi or Mahouka, where the US is portrayed as incompetent at best or villainous at worst, it's actually quite refreshing.
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>>111806863
>Positively the US is portrayed in MLA.
The US' existence and role in Muv-Luv is neutral at best, and that's probably intentional.

>US is Japan's greatest ally and greatest enemy
>Alt V supporters are primarily based and connected in the US
>Conspirators, operatives, and assassins who are Anti-Alt IV or Anti-Alt plans in general are largely used by the CIA for its own gains in both domestic and foreign affairs
>The one likable American character (Walken) does not survive past the 12/5 incident/coup arc and is killed by his own side while Japanese nationalism is shoved in the reader's face
The side material and expansion to the settings like TE and TSFiA short stories are what makes America likable.
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>>111782885
Just like real life. Raptors will always and will be shit.
>Negative K/D ratio.
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>>111806058
The point was made that a locally modified lower generation TSF was able to stand on par with the newer models. The Eagle pilots were shocked at the F-4Js movements as well if you recall. The Eagles only won later through steer horsepower, but was still defeated by someone who used the TSF to its max potential, which is the core of the entire debate over American verses Japan TSFs.

>>111806324
>Garrisoned well behind the front lines launching hit and run strikes from BVR while the front is being held by the local forces
>True Americans in the Navy sit in TSF carriers and sortie on long range assaults on targets of opportunities, returning when bingo fuel and ammo. Potential Americans are made to fight on the front lines with the locals.
Sure, they're fighting with the locals...at about 5 mins at a time.

>Americans pulling out of the Defense of Germany when the wall came down. A-10s refusing to pull back.
>All other battles where the logistic trail cannot be confirmed is fought by non-American armies.
>Back chatter btw pilots in written stories all take about how the US and UN can't get a stick out of their ass to fight a real war.
Dude, you're the one with your head in the skies. Try viewing the situation from the viewpoint of the ones having to fight without knowing when they'll be resupplied. That's what the swords are for, to stretch out the ammo.

>>111806523
And can you tell me which TSF can be flown effectively at its max potential without a skilled veteran at its controls? She is only saying what every pilot or driver with a high performance machine would say. If you assume that means that normal or new pilots won't be able to use them at all, you're absolutely wrong, because in that case, the F-22 can be used by any rookie from the get go with 100% effectiveness.
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>>111807048
I was actually talking about TE and side material, but okay.

I'll still argue that the US wasn't portrayed as negatively as most anime/vn/manga/ln works though.
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>>111806324
>even Isumi agreed that withdrawing was the correct strategic decision.
Saying that it's correct strategically and saying that she agreed with what they did are two different things, jackass. If you called in a friend to help defend your home, and later he leaves midway through the battle cause the other side got more men than you and he's out of bullets, are you going to give him a thumbs up and say good thinking in front of the corpses of your family?
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>>111807568
And later, when you get a few other friends to come and help take back your home, he drops by and detonates a couple of C4 without your leave, turning the remains of your home into splinters and killing off your friends and what remains of your family. He shrugs and says you weren't going to win anyway, so might as well.
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>>111807162
>And can you tell me which TSF can be flown effectively at its max potential without a skilled veteran at its controls?
The Gekkou is stated in Continental Fighters to be an attractive alternative to the Second not just because of stealth, but also because of superior ease of handling.

>Americans pulling out of the Defense of Germany when the wall came down. A-10s refusing to pull back.
Except there is nothing in TSFIA#39 to suggest that. Everything it says regarding the matter is that the US is fighting heavily alongside the Germans to set up a line of defense and hold off the BETA long enough for the refugees to get out, and the A-10s were not there against orders but under them.
>All other battles where the logistic trail cannot be confirmed is fought by non-American armies.
Probably because the stories aren't America-centric.
>Back chatter btw pilots in written stories all take about how the US and UN can't get a stick out of their ass to fight a real war.
For example? And don't cite that thing where its said that people think "oh how typically American" regarding their tactical doctrine which only works if you can maintain the supply of bullets and relief squadrons.
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>>111807162
>The Eagle pilots were shocked at the F-4Js movements as well if you recall.
They weren't shocked by the F-4J Kais' movements. They just noted "heh pretty nimble for a fat chicken". What they were shocked by was that one of them blocked their paintballs with a katanah and therefore wasn't 'dead' when they expected it to be.
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>>111807162
>returning when bingo fuel and ammo
What's wrong with returning when bingo fuel and ammo? What kind of moron stays out there and fights without fuel or weapons?
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>>111807963
>>111807162
Also you missed the part where part of American tactical doctrine is that when a unit has to withdraw to refuel and rearm, another unit is right there behind them to relieve their position, so it's not like they just give up and leave.
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>>111807568
Is it better to die for some frivolous thing such as honour, or live to fight another day and get revenge?
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>>111804998
Every girl in TE is just beautiful indeed.
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>>111807785
Ease of handling by a superior pilot. so your point is moot.

The US A-10s were ordered to pull back, not ordered to stay. They went against those orders.

Even during the Hive operations organized by the UN and as part of the Alternative plans? You will note that the ones who achieved things that were worthy of mention on the frontlines were never Americans, though they should have been fighting side by side with the locals, according to you.

And you're asking me to give an example but say don't quote those examples. Other than in Raindancers and TDA00, its in Adoration, several TSFiAs, Resurrection and the main TDA stories, Schwarzesmarken, and especially Eurofront.

>>111807866
And that proves that Japan should make TSFs of their own how? The fact that their local unit had the capacity to block it was part of the prove as well. And being surprised at the speed played a big part since they were expecting the performance of an average American F-4.

>>111807963
Then make sure you have weapons, idiot. That was the whole point of making non American TSFs that had non-ammo based fighting potential.

>>111808002
And you missed the part that in battles against the BETA, that doesn't work.

>>111808070
I see, you are scum that doesn't care what happens to your family, as long as you're alive yourself.
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>>111808070
Both are a bad thing as they encourage zealotry.
Honor will just make you go "Ninponjin banzai" while you suicide thinking it will do anything and it doesn't even slow down the enemy, and fighting for revenge just makes you reckless and uncaring of how you may compromise your squad, as long as it means you can kill as many BATERs as you can.
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Tama is my waifu.
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>>111805473
Mine is superior.
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>>111808186
>Ease of handling by a superior pilot. so your point is moot.
Where does it say that? It just says ease of handling. Which could apply to both an average pilot and a superior pilot.

>You will note that the ones who achieved things that were worthy of mention on the frontlines were never Americans
Besides the part where everyone respects and welcomes the Muhreens.

>Even during the Hive operations organized by the UN and as part of the Alternative plans?
How many Hive operations have we seen in detail? I can only think of Minsk (joint NATO-WarPac), Bhopal (we don't see the whole operation, just the Russians and their espers), Yokohama (we don't see the whole operation, just that faggot Takayuki and the G-bombing), Sadogashima (joint UN-IJA-COSEAN), and Ouka (everyone's in the shit now)

>The US A-10s were ordered to pull back, not ordered to stay. They went against those orders.
Show me the quote from that story where it says they were ordered to withdraw and refused. It doesn't exist.

>Then make sure you have weapons, idiot. That was the whole point of making non American TSFs that had non-ammo based fighting potential.
Yeah, swords, brilliant idea, you kill at about one tenth the speed of a gun since your reach is so much smaller and expose yourself to being latched on to by little red fuckers.

>And you missed the part that in battles against the BETA, that doesn't work.
The US might possibly be the only nation with the resources to make it work.
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>>111808384
I'll sell her to you, half price.
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>>111787016
I thought total eclipse was an anime only which is how this thread started?
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>>111760507
I wish they would make more muv-luv alternative: total eclipse anime...
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>>111808576
No, you don't
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>>111808464
That line was said by a superior pilot describing her own experience. It never said anything about how normal pilots would have ease operating it.

Hahaha. This guy thinks all Marines are true Americans...

Then your statement that Americans have been fighting on all fronts is wrong then, wouldn't it?

See the opening of Soul of the Artilleries. They Stood Their Ground.

Would a sword or knife be better to chop little red fuckers? American tactics only includes knifes to combat the red fuckers, but swords can be used effectively against, well, everything else. And you can use the ammo you saved where it really counts. You just dont get it, don't you?

Except, since it never happens at all, and they even chose to go with Alternative V and RUN AWAY, your wrong.

I you're hopelessly narrow minded.
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>>111808956
Why not? I want to at least see the story end.
So frustrating when a show ends on a cliffhanger for season 2, and season 2 never comes.
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>>111808958
>That line was said by a superior pilot describing her own experience. It never said anything about how normal pilots would have ease operating it.
That line wasn't said by any pilot. It was omniscient narration.

>Hahaha. This guy thinks all Marines are true Americans...
America is an ideal, not an ethnicity. The country was built on immigration. The provisional permanent residents/provisional citizens in the armed forces are American too, just as their commanding officers are American.

>Then your statement that Americans have been fighting on all fronts is wrong then, wouldn't it?
No, because being involved on all the fronts doesn't mean you're involved in every single battle.

>See the opening of Soul of the Artilleries. They Stood Their Ground.
The opening of Soul of the Artilleries had them requesting permission to hold the line and being granted it. They weren't acting against orders at all. You pillock.

>Would a sword or knife be better to chop little red fuckers?
A knife doesn't eat up an entire mount pylon to carry with you, a mount pylon that could have had a gun with 2000 more DU rounds on it.
Really the best option would be to fix bayonets on guns.

>Except, since it never happens at all, and they even chose to go with Alternative V and RUN AWAY, your wrong.
Alternative V wasn't meant to be a run away plan. They just added the run away part to pacify the doomsayers. Alternative V was meant to be the "win" button, which they tested for effectiveness and safety at Yokohama and Sadogashima.
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>>111809052
>the vn too finished with a cliffhange
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I fucking love Muv Luv!
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>>111808958
>>Hahaha. This guy thinks all Marines are true Americans...
You're saying that just because they don't have full citizenship yet that they can't be considered American armed forces fighting under the direction of American commanders as representatives of the United States of America using American-issued equipment with American training according to American combat doctrine and flying the American flag, and at the end of their tour of duty they will go back and live in America?
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>>111809223
Fuuuuu.
But it makes sense right? Like, "the war will go on" kind of resolution as expected, right?
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>>111785687
Why must you say such things. ;_;
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>>111809431
It does nothing for the overall story, it ends before MLA.

Oh how I wish Kouki would get on with writing a direct sequel to Alternative instead of working on these side projects.
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>>111807499
>wasn't portrayed as negatively as most anime/vn/manga/ln works

Do tell.
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>>111809888
Oh how I wish Kouki would get on with starting a new IP instead of endlessly milking Alternative.
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>>111762172
Somebody hasn't watched the third Berserk film.
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>>111770254
>>111770462

>17

u wot?

I seriously thought she looked at least 25 by the time she met Yuuya.
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>>111810423
>being surprised by anime character ages
Always subtract at least 5 years from their appearance and you have their real age.
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>>111810555
So Latrova is in her early twenties?
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>>111810577
You were never very good with numbers, huh?
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>>111810555
More like, I had just assumed she would be in her mid-twenties, seeing as she's a lieutenant in the air force.

I guess it's my fault for assuming an anime would try to be realistic for a change.
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>>111810577
She looks 30s, the rule still stands.
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>>111810700
>I guess it's my fault for assuming an anime would try to be realistic for a change.
There's a good explanation for this: everyone is dead, and Yui being nippon nobility got more perks than other people.
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>>111810602
If it makes you feel superior, sure.
>>111810703
Yet she's in her forties and still rocking that body.
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>>111810700
She's a lieutenant in the Imperial Royal Guards.
Apparently there doesn't seem to be any such thing as an enlisted TSF pilot, the lowest rank of pilot we seem to get is 2nd lieutenant.
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>>111810882
Marimo is a non-com Sergeant in the UN armed forces. Though she was a Major in the Imperial armed forces.
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>>111810800
If you think subtracting five from a number anywhere in the forties yields a difference anywhere in the twenties, definitely.
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Elena best girl
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Meiya a shit.
Chizuru best girl.
Extra best Muv Luv.
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Wasnt there some kind of alien that was made to attract humans to fuck them

this series seriously sounds like some weird fan fiction
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>>111811787
>BETA not eating humans
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>>111811787
Joushin Eishi Kriska. It's non-canon.
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Don't forget to vote for Yakisoba today.
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>>111812266
The best.
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>>111810286
Elfin Blaze never. ;_;
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>>111812371
THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST
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VN translations when?
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>>111812647
Someday.
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>no official VN porn
Muv-Luv should just die.
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>>111812647
Probably sometime before F/HA and MajiKoi.
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>>111812829
>F/HA
Wasn't a patch just released for this?
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>>111812647
After Baldr Sky
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