Thoughts on this /a/?

We've already had this thread many times.

>They will demand sites not in japan to stop it

Haha oh wow.

wwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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>>111455427
>Thoughts on this /a/?
I'm tired of faggots posting this shit every hour.

>2 years in jail for downloading a cartoon

Ok

>They will begin contatcing 580 "overseas pirate sites" demanding they delete copyright infringing content

Let us know how that goes, Japan

if anything, piracy benefits them in expanding interest. without piracy, anime in foreign country's interest in anime would be lower levels than anime had in japan in the early years.

Oh look it's this thread, again.

It looks like anime as we know it is over again

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>>111455726
>Basically stealing
top kek

Who cares about animes.

What about the mangas? When Sun Ken Rock updates I don't want to have to learn how to use IRC downloading just to read what everyone says when nothing happens.

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>>111455726

>>111455725
Yep, I wouldn't buy merchandise at cons and online without piracy. You want to profit? Pander to me. I'm not putting myself out for some fucking nips to sell me a shittier product than the one I get for free.

>>111455427
fuck off

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>>111455726
>stop being a pussy and just watch these inconvenient ads

Nah faggot.

>>111455726
>creunch
>profits going to studios

>>111455726
>ifunny
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>prostrating yourself before japanese studios who are only interested in your jew gold
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>willing to pay for shit quality translations and encodes
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>111455726
This made me hate iFunny even more than I already have. Where does this guy get his information from?
>Reddit

>>111455726
>Bruhs, I love variety in my series, and having like 30 K-On descendants in a season ain't Gucci
Top kek.
Truer words have never been spoken.

>>111455726
>CR
>Studious get paid
Fuck off Kishimoto

>>111455726
>CR
>Supporting the industry
Lying shill please go.

can someone tell me if this is just a troll? It's been a while sine I've been on /a/

The only thing that could get me to stop pirating anime is if they made a service like netflix. A flat monthly fee for on demand streaming at high resolutions, fansubs supported. Another fee for manga maybe. Unless they actually give us what we want there's no point in supporting their shitty fucking business model. I mean, almost forty dollars for a fucking blu-ray? Jesus christ Japan, that's no where near worth my time when it's that much more inconvenient than pirating it.

>Over half of US anime and manga fans watch and read pirated works
You would think that statistic would cause them to rethink their business model, but I guess not.

>>111455726

Oh my god. I'm fucking speechless.

Come back when something actually happens

>>111456388
Japan doesn't believe in adapting. People aren't buying our shit? Hmm, let's piss them off even more!

>>111456388
>Glorious Nippon
>Business sense
Pick one. There's a reason sony makes electronics as a hobby.

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Top Kek

>>111456388
>over half

It's probably around 90%.

And, no fucking shit. There is still very little legal avenues for most fans that they don't need to rely on piracy.

>>111456336
>Netflix
>Streaming
>high resolution.
Are you high or just being payed? Streaming doesn't work at any quality. If they don't support downloading without DRM there's no reason to support their business model. DLsite does it right, and a lot of people on /a/ buy from them and similar services. Otherwise pirate or import, but supporting CR or Netflix only harms the industry and supports the shitty business model they run on.

>>111456529
This is hilarious. Does the guy even understand the concept of being a fucking pussy?

I will never pay for anime

>>111455726
Die of cancer soon.

Obviously i would have no use for the internet if anime cease to exist for free. Only suckers pay for anime.

>>111456529
>I don't care about about if you're in college or not

But what if I don't care that he doesn't care?

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>>111455726
>TL;DR Pay CR more dosh.
>loss of $5.5 B.

>>111456463
>>111456388
>>111456576

Japan doesn't care about any of you. Japanese people make niche japanese cartoons for a niche japanese market, not a global audience with a (low) global pricepoint that wouldn't give them the revenue they need. This isn't like videogames or iTunes. Having simulcasts are already going above and beyond the call of duty, in their minds.

MUH 5.5 BILLION

>>111456590
Getting Japan to agree with DRM-free downloads i laughable. I'd kill for that, but there's no way they'd go for it.

>>111455427
horriblesubs is finished.

>>111456616
Not even your favorite anime?

>>111456731
Even their direct download porn has fucking DRM.

The problem is consumer ideologies are so different between here and there that anything they'd try to do would just be shooting themselves in the foot.

I think they do this shit every other year.

They simply do it to try to scare a few retards, like the ones who actually care about this.

Be more concerned when America actually decides to mess with the Internet, because the Media Jews plus the American Government can actually get shit done.

The Japanese can do nothing. They will bark all they want, but they won't bite.

I hope they close all the illegal stream anime website.

Not like we won't get our torrents so we'll just get rid of all the casuals.

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I guess this is going to be another 500+ post thread, isn't it.

I wouldn't watch anime or read manga if it wasn't free, most westerners won't. None of you will ever stop torrenting and start buying every single thing you pick up or watch in backlog, even if it was cheap. Because those hundreds of shows and manga will add up.

>>111456843
>Not like we won't get our torrents so we'll just get rid of all the casuals.
No you won't. All that will accomplish is bring casuals to our turf, and you don't want that.

>>111456815
Don't forget the only reason we hear about it is because of shills from CR trying to get subs and pageclicks to their "news" article on it.

>5.5 BILLION dollars
From the MPAA school of business I see, the same way that "The Avengers" made no money because of piracy.

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This guy has tons of retarded shit on his profile

>>111456815
>They simply do it to try to scare a few retards, like the ones who actually care about this.

Which is the only reason anyone is reacting seriously to any of this shit. They're newfags who think this is anything new.

>>111455427
good riddance. Anyone who pirates deserves whats coming to them.

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its all a conspiracy of the NHK!!

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>>111456701
This. It feels good to be irrelevant.

>>111455427
Japs watch it free on TV, why can't we watch it free too?

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Fuck off. we have this thread every fucking day

>>111456888
No casual will learn how to use torrents. They will either watch it on CR or some other shit like netflix.

>>111455427
A-am I fucked?

>>111456701
Hell, they only do that when they aren't sure they can make the money back. This season they haven't all even agreed to simulcasts with anime that was doing well in week 1.

>>111456909
There have been arrests. They're sending people to jail for uploading shitty tanks. The Japanese legal system is fucking harsh, this could actually deter raw uploaders a bit.

>>111455893
Remember when a couple of years ago Viz asked Mangastream to take down all their licensed Shonen JUMP series? That's what they did yet they are scanlating them again.

It's impossible to stop this kind of thing. Instead Japan should see the bright sides of it: without piracy, the "Japan boom" wouldn't have landed on West. When I was still a student in the 90's most people didn't know shit about Japan or anime, it was just some country where people have weird eyes and speak some kind of zing zong language. It's completely different now and I doubt this would have happened without piracy.

>>111456927
More free anime?

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I've had it with this topic. We've had many threads on this in the last 3 or 4 days. There hasn't been any new information besides people trying to troll people. So why don't we just wait until actual news surfaces that they actually accomplish something? Its like the fear mongering after 9/11 for fuck's sake. Just stop it. Nothing will likely come from something like this. They can't possibly find ways of prosecuting you overseas for pirating anime so stop worrying about it and claiming the "loss" in sales thing is dumb to no court would find that plausible in the slightest.

>>111456701

Agreed.

Until friday I guess we will hear about this legal service but I have no faith in it since there are so many rules distribution-wise. Most likely it will be for just japanese in just japanese.

>>111456866
>braceyourself.jpg

>>111457031
It takes away from their profits. If no one buys it they wont make any more.

>>111456803
Okay maybe not never.

>>111457023
Remember last year when they arrested GOD and friends for anime piracy. Remember how much that has effected us? Right not at all, because no matter how much they chip away at it it's pointless.

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>>111457036
>Until Friday
Already Saturday.

I guess it's time for Japan to learn the hard way that you cant stop piracy.

>>111456962
The funny thing is that we're actually a much larger market.
If they were to sell anime at reasonable prices (i.e. what you would pay for your regular BD-Box for an American TV Series), they could cut the middlemen and get plenty of money.

At the same time, I'm glad they're retarded at business, because if they were to exploit the Western market as they could, then they would likely start catering to casuals, and looking at vidyas and comics, they're full of shit.
So, God bless the Japanese, and their retardation at doing business.

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Found this earlier.

>>111457071
Oh well, anime had a good run. Nothing lasts forever.

>>111457098

Oh my, I thought the 30th was yesterday. Well then we'll hear about it soon then.

>>111457001
Commercials pay for it and they usually can't watch things whenever they feel like it on demand

Would you be fine with it if there were ads
I'm not sure you would be

>>111457096
It has affected the Western scene. Now whatever BDs the chink uploaders at U2 decide not to buy for the particular season, the show won't get ever get a BD release until at least a year or two down the line, if ever.

>>111457009
Torrents are only ever so slightly less casual

>>111457162
I was fine with Morning Lesq

>>111457162
I'll deal with ads on TV. I don't with low-quality streams like CR's

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>Music has failed to stop piracy
>Cinema has failed to stop piracy
>Video games has failed to stop piracy
>Navy has failed to stop piracy

Why do the japanese think they have chance at stopping cartoon piracy?

>>111457009
>Casuals don't use torrents.
Maybe, maybe, casuals won't use xdcc

This garbage has made me stay away from /a/ for the past month.

this is /v/ tier internet drama faggots. The internet is impossible to police. You'll have to bookmark rexhentai, ZZZsubs, terrible subs, nyaa.pe and abovewater-murky instead, wow! We're ruined!

Can't wait for summer to end.

>>111455427


Why should I pay for stuff I dont want? The less I and people like me buy, the more deprived and pandering anime will get. It's a total win. All I want to see are cute girls doing cute things, moeshit, harems, ecchi and the occasional mindless mecha. It seems the more precarious the industry is, the more they produce what I want. Even if they stopped making anime tomorrow due to a lack of capital, there's still enough anime to last me a lifetime.

>>111457220
Either way, someone's gotta pay.

>>111457162
>Commercials pay for it
Actually, not really.
It's the Producer who pays to have the show air on TV.

The way the Nips do things is a tad bit different.

>>111457023
It will deter but not stop them completely.
Japanese eroge uploaders are now using freenet to leak eroges.

>>111457249
BECAUSE NIHON WILL DO KAMIMAZE ON AMERICAN PIG PIRATE!

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>>111457390

>>111456907
He's right in this case, SnK is plagued by a weeaboo fanbase, not unlike naruto, bleach, SAO.

Why do any of you retards care/ Why do I keep seeing "Oh well fuck them!!! They should make it easier for me to watch legally!"? You really think anime piracy will die at all? You really think you would ever buy all the anime you'd watch? You really think they'll make it all super cheap for everybody and somehow make their money back? You really think they actually care about western pirates and this isn't just a song and dance like all these things are in every country?

Japanese cartoons are for japanese people, like Bollywood movies are for Indians. They're not going to bend over backwards to change their entire model to try and plan a business model around what the fucking 14 year old narutard named Billy from Minneasota wants in his supercool chinese animes.

>>111457035

Sorry, but nobody will listen.

>>111457133
>If they were to sell anime at reasonable prices

Reverse importing.

>>111457259

It really is fucking retarded. The only people actually getting 'angry" or "scared' about this are braindead faggots from /v/, is wear to god.

>>111457656

reverse importing lmfao enjoy the tax on tax on tax

>>111457249
Because Laws folded over 10000 times

>>111457656
Then why are they fighting oversea piracy if the oversea market is irrelevent? I don't see Bollywood complaining because I pirate their movie.

>>111457787
Because CR asked them to.

>>111457644
>unlike Naruto
stopped reading right there.

>>111457721
>lmfao

Learn to fucking spell your words, you stupid piece of shit.

And almost all japanese media is like this. It's all just for them. People who think this is like their typical new HBO show or western album or videogame that they expect to be sold everywhere is being an idiot. The fact that they made a youtube video like that is pretty surprising in itself.

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>>111457249
The difference between all those things and anime/manga, is that animu & mango are not sold globally, they're sold to a very small group of people located only in Japan and for a very high price, so any advantages piracy may have are rendered null and probably only hurt sales.

Now, if Japan could actually get their shit together and try to take advantage of the global anime following and rework their business model to reflect that, then it probably wouldn't matter as much and they could actually reap the benefits of piracy instead, and as a bonus maybe they could pay their animators enough to live above the poverty line and actually make animation a more attractive career.

>>111457834
Please kill yourself you massive fucking retard.

>>111457848

reverse importing lmfao enjoy the tax on tax on tax

>>111457888
>implying nurutu isn't plagued by weeaboos
If you believe it anon-kun.
Unless I misread the comment, then my apologies.

>>111458080
>not unlike naruto

>>111457883
>Now, if Japan could actually get their shit together and try to take advantage of the global anime following and rework their business model to reflect that, then it probably wouldn't matter as much and they could actually reap the benefits of piracy instead, and as a bonus maybe they could pay their animators enough to live above the poverty line and actually make animation a more attractive career.

This will never ever fucking happen, because the "global anime market" is still too fucking small and will not pay for shit. Like you said, this is not like movies, music, or videogames, which are practically global mediums. This is like a specific genre of videogame and music.

And you forget that cartoons are still for fucking kids, so any animation media like this will never, ever sell on a global market any more than it is right now. What they make then will not make up for the loss they'll miss out on in their own home country. We should be surprised it's getting licensed as much as it is, even if they are later down the line (and are still insanely cheaper than they are in Japan). We could still be living in the 80s and not even have ever heard of anything but 1 OVA a year.

>>111457834
>not unlike naruto

learn2read

>>111457834
I think you missed the "not" behind "unlike".

Does China have any simulcasting services?
I didn't know that China was considered one of the biggest offenders, maybe it's because of the huge population. I mean if they can't get it legit what the hell are they supposed to do?

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My name's Matt and I'm a reformed anime downloader. There was a time, not too long ago, when I rushed home from school to check the progress of my torrents with all the thrill of opening gifts on Christmas morning. I compiled series after series, put them on CD and even made my own labels for them with photoshop. But it was a speech made at AnimeFest in Texas by Greg Ayres that got me to stop. I didn't understand just what effect I had been having on the Region 1 industry by joining the ranks of other downloaders out there. The industry was ailing and like a distracted medieval physician asked for a second opinion I was just prescribing more blood-letting. Since then I've reformed and have been buying more and more of the series I had downloaded on legit DVDs. I want to help the anime industry continue here in the US. Anime is an immersive, vibrant, fascinating art form from a culture that, as an outsider, I will never fully understand. But understand the Japanese or not, I love the art form they've created and I want it to continue and I understand that the best way to do that is the buy the DVDs, watch the shows on television, watch the shows via sanctioned websites, etc. I hope this reaffirms that there is a group (perhaps an all too quiet group) who do want to support the shows we enjoy.

I guess this is relevant again. Someone should update it to include something about CR.

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Why do you people care so much?

Hollywood is much more powerful and yet TBP is still exists plus hundreds of other trackers.

Gotta hand it to 4chan to make a big deal out of nothing.

>>111455427
Maybe it'll force some of us to get jobs.

Besides, more money into the industry means more and better quality anime and manga.

>>111458275
With Sadpanda, this, and the robot being deactivated, you can really see how 4chan can really over exaggerate events.

Hell, there were multiple back to back digimon threads today that hit post limit.

>>111458364
>More money into the industry means more and better quality anime and manga.
Anyone who believes this are fucking autistic

Never purchased a single anime in my 30 years on this earth and I never will. Deal with it.

>In 2012 Japanese government enacted a bill that punished both people who uploaded copyright infringing material and people who downloaded the material.

Is this why it's mostly those chinks uploading all the porn these days?

>>111457883
Agree.

How the fuck did they get to that 5.5 billion thing? Do they have some kind of negative IQ?

>>111455427
Anime piracy needs to stop. It's hurting the industry.

>>111457818
Do you have a source for that?

>>111455427
>The sites are located around the world, but many are in China

will they even do anything if they get a nasty letter? it is china, after all

Apparently Nyaa will close soon, Daiz said

>>111455427
If they made it more accessible and TRANSLATED more shit we wouldn't have this fucking problem japan.

>>111457390
Yeah it worked really well for them last time they bombed America
Really well

>>111458510
Indeed, they already lost billions, poor japs.

>>111458577
Yes we would. I will never pay for anything digital because I'm not stupid.

WELCOME TO THE NEW AGE

WHERE PIRACY IS LAW

Fuck the police.

>>111458615
Ouch. Cut my finger on all that edge.

>>111458494
It was 20 Bajillions yesterday.

>>111458635
Fucking deal with it, you mondo super nerd.

My thoughts on this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY

>>111457155
Jesus, I'm a NEET, too, but I still know the date.

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>>111458577

Shut the fuck up, they're not reading anything you write, they don't fucking care.

>>111458536

Stop fanning the flames.

>>111457249
Japanese are, a best, 20 years behind the west.
So mentally they're in 1994 when all this internet thing was new.

>>111458701
True. But you are for some reason. I wasn't even talking to you. But that means somebody is reading it.

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>>111455427
>no decent legal alternative to scans
>says piracy is hurting it's business

What asinine theoretical sales are these? nobody would even now this shit existed if there weren't scans, let alone import a physical copy.

>>111458654
My thoughts...
http://youtu.be/1qN72LEQnaU

at least they'll never come for my porn

oh wait

>>111458402
>and the robot being deactivated
The what?

>>111457656
>. They're not going to bend over backwards to change their entire model to try and plan a business model around what the fucking 14 year old narutard named Billy from Minneasota wants in his supercool chinese animes.
Thanks God for this. I don't want niggers, feminist, trans and other shit in my anime

I'll just start streaming or some shit. Honestly don't care abut quality as long as it's nice and watchable.

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Inb4 tumblr, but thoughts on this?

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>There are people defending the theft of intellectual property and think it's funny they're killing anime.

Seriously guys?

>>111458916
kiss dot com is where its at /a/non.

>>111458962
I killed 5 animes today with my 9 foot pirate dick.

>>111456701

Don't we make up like 20% of their market? That's pretty significant.

>>111458958

Like, it's cute because they think Megaupload is still a thing.

>>111458962
>Killing anime
>Implying westerners were even helping it in the first place
What dont you get by, we westerners dont help shit for the Mangakas/Animators?

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>>111457883
Manga's cheap though.

>>111459023
Megaupload will always be a thing in our hearts.

>>111459010
>Don't we make up like 20% of their market?

No, other asian countries do. You're a fraction of a fraction.

Sometimes I have to wonder why studios don't skip the dubbing process.

Perhaps it helps sell a rematch to a good number of fans, but I think Aniplex, if anything, has a better business model of paying bottom of the barrel because they know 90% of people are going to hate dubs anyway and just buy the BD.

But I think these avenues would be fine if a bunch of BDs and such came out with no dubs in the first place.

>>111459029

Crunchyroll kiddies believe the PR bullshit they get fed with.

>>111458958
I'm confused, what is pandora doing that puts them on the list? Unless its a different pandora, I'm honestly surprised that they'd be streaming some music illegally.

>>111459139

They should be after Spotify for fan-uploaded playlists, if anything. Then again, I'm not sure. Maybe the fact that the CD exists in the US doesn't really adhere to the expensive as fuck-all Japanese audio licensing agreements or something.

>>111458958
>Megaupload
The Japs have their tops minds working on this as we speak.

>>111455427
Stop making these threads. Japs can't do shit about piracy. They maybe, just maybe, would be able to close a few streaming sites with pussy admins, but it's impossible to close torents

>>111459207
It's actually a jewish firm

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>>111459029
>Not wanting to help the creators, instead wanting to steal and help others steal.

Seriously, why do you hate anime so much?

>>111458958

>Rapidshare

Yeah, let's take down fucking Bearshare while we're at it.

>>111459373
>Stealing
Without torrents/fan subs, you wouldnt have found out about an anime. I guarantee it you autitst

>>111459327

They're detective work is late by over two years.

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>>111459373
>steal

They still have their anime bro, I just copied it. It'd be like going into an art show and taking a picture.

how much would you pay for an episode /a/?

i feel like 1$ per episode [10$ per season] is fair

just make it charge a bit more [15?] for a HD version

>>111457656
>They're not going to bend over backwards to change their entire model to try and plan a business model around what the fucking 14 year old narutard named Billy from Minneasota wants in his supercool chinese animes.

Well, it would be profitable. I imagine nothing will happen until the anime takes a hold in the West (as it has kind of done this generation) and some Western businessmen go over and broker some deal.

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>>111459373
I haven't spend a single cent on any media like movies, games etc since 2004 and I'm sure not going to start buying anime

>>111459373
>Seriously, why do you hate anime so much?
Using your logic I just stole your post.

>>111459501
$0

>>111459501

>1 dollar per episode

23 minutes of usually hand-drawn animation
for one dollar

come on dude

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>>111459501
Paying any less than 10 per episode is inexcusable. I love anime, only some people here.

>>111459433
>>111459493
>>111459529
>>111459535

Stop fucking replying seriously. Just fucking stop it.

>>111459535
I hope you get banned, as punishment I'm gonna steal your post number.

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Why should I care about japanese laws that don't affect me?

>>111459501
None. Nothing. I would not pay individually for an episode. I watch too much anime every season to even consider that.

Maybe $1 per entire anime, and that's only if I had no other options.

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>>111459590

>>111459562
Anon you should go to jail for stealing those idolm@sters AND DMX, you fucking STOLE DMX you stupid nigger.

>>111459555
okay, but how if they just sell it as a package?

20$ for a season? [480p]

>10$ per episode

go fuck yourself

>>111458962

Honestly, pirating helps the industry slightly. Read the buyfag threads.

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>>111459555
7 YEARS OF HAND-DRAWING ANIMATION

>>111455427

i'm soooo scaaaaaaaared

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I5dVBezF9k

>>111459630
I really really hate this maymay

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>>111459643
I paid 35 dollars for this image anon. Unlike you, you fucking pirate thief.

>>111459636
It's not actually edgy.

>>111459373

It's not about hating anime. Granted, I don't condone stealing anything, but there are Japanese studios (primarily on the game side, but still) that actually outright refuse to bring their works out of Japan. I can understand if they had better avenues for people that want to watch things as they come out besides fucking CR(who really just monetized on stolen subs and pirated shows until they decided that the stream service was really the only good way to make the dish. CR probably would have had zero intent in making business partners in Japan if they didn't realize that Netflix: animi edition was the only way to reel in paying subscribers).

I actually feel like Hulu is doing the next best job with the Sailor Moon hype.

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>>111459562

>>111459501
Not a single cent.

Everything will just go underground and people will still read their mango and watch their Chinese cartoons

Nothing is gonna change, Japan govt is that stupid to waste money

>>111459501
Depends on the show, but I find the funimation prices of 30-40 bucks for a 26 episode series to be right around fair.

>>111459373
Where'd you steal that image from?

>>111459684
You made me steal that image with my eyes, my mind has stolen it, you are an accessory to theft.

>>111455427
beyond the fact that this isnt the first time they've done this and it hasnt effected fan subbing and streaming before the onlything this will realy acomplish in the longrun is strangle the industry on an international level.

Would shit like Fate/stay night, Snk, SAO, Steins;Gate or even shit that flew under the Radar Sedonia no Keishi even be half as popular with out Fansubbing or "Piracy"?

>>111459630
Anonymous: they may potentially release less stuff each year. But I'm just posting to tell you that your pic gave me a chuckle, do you mind if I save it?

>>111458958
Am I blind or is BakaBT not on that list?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIPSvIz9NDs

>>111459761
les collaborateurs!

>>111459761
Bakabt only handles unlicensed stuff

>>111455427
I thought Jews feared the samurai, not that they were them.

>>111459719

This.

I will never pay 25 bucks for three episodes or 600 for BD set ever.

>>111458958
>Mangafox
And nothing of value was lost.

>>111458833
>>>/r9k/ thing to enforce unique posts and stop spam.

>>111459806
Wat.
BakaBT is the only place where I found yen press Spice and Wolf LNs

>>111459501
$3 Maximum for a 23 minute episode.

>>111459822
Samurai are the jew.

Why is this still up?

>>111459806

Wait, I thought this was covering unlicensed scanlations and fansubs as well.

>>111455427
>The NHK noted
I knew those NHK bastards were up to something
It's a Jew conspiracy!

>goodsmile company
>trying to stomp out piracy and therefor lower their international sales

Why?

I can understand the media creators but you can't really pirate figures.

>>111459856
jesus fucking christ, who made that gif

>>111459373
The creators aren't doing shit to get it to us at an acceptable price.
The licensing companies who do try make it far less convenient than pirate sites.

Pirate sites currently offer the best service for the best price. How the fuck can legit sites justify themselves when their product is completely inferior to what fans do for free?

And any sort of gating that prevents me from trying new shows without paying for them is gonna stop me from wanting to try. I gave Chaika a shot because it was free and liked it, but would've avoided like the fucking plague if it cost even a sent. Now there's at least a small chance I'll pay for it at some point. Compared to 0% if I had to pay for my trying it, that's pretty good.

>>111459865

I don't fucking know. People like repeating the same shit we've been saying 100 times and think they're being original or insightful.

>>111459907
>but you can't really pirate figures.

Just you wait until my 3d printer is up and running.

>>111459373
>implying any of the money spent actually goes to the people who sat down and drew, coloured and animated the footage

>>111457249
Because first only Jews want to stop Piracy.

The Jews fear the Samurai.

Ergo, the Samurai, who are more powerful than the Jews have a chance at defeating Piracy.

>>111459927
Well anon, not everyone is on /a/ at all times, this may shock you but sometimes people sleep or are watching anime and miss threads.

If the western fanbase is completely irrelevant to the anime industry and we just get scraps and are considered an afterthought, who cares if we download?

If I sold an album and only released it in America and some BR copies it, what do I fucking care?

>>111459907
Stupid anon. Everybody knows that pirated = lost sale in a 1:1 ratio. Didn't you read the article? Piracy costs the nips $ billion in lost sales every year. some people actually believe this

>>111459949
Is there a site I can get the scans of figures? I have a printer.

>>111459865
Because the people in charge of keeping this place from becoming Anime-Random are asleep.
Only a couple of hours left until the morning purge.

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>>111459949

Abducted shed when'd HD Didier bendy ...

https://www.change.org/petitions/japan-s-ministry-of-economy-trade-and-industry-stop-anti-piracy-law-on-anime-and-manga

You can still stop this!

>>111459993

Then they should fucking
LURK
MORE

We don't need the same pointless fucking thread a million fucking times. This entire discussion is absolute bullshit.

>>111460044
Liked

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To ravage, to slaughter, to usurp under false titles, they call anti-piracy; and where they make a desert, they call it peace.

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>>111459949
Enjoy painting them by hand.
And good luck finding a 3D printer that is good enough to produce stuff that doesn't need any polishing or manual corrections at an affordable price.

>>111460011
Download MMD models, open them in blender, pose them and convert them to STL

>>111460076
Or you can just ignore the thread

>>111460134
I guess I could do that, but I would like some nendos. I could ask on the buyfag thread, but they would probably kill me.

>>111460148
If everyone just ignored everything that was wrong, the world would be in a terrible state.

>>111457390
Shut the fuck up Dwarf Pirate

>>111455427
god, I thought industry was over this shit
the amount of people who consume pirated goods does not equal lost sales. Chances are they're people who don't want/are unable to pay and if they couldn't get it for free they wouldn't get it at all. And you waste far more money fighting piracy than you recoup from the people who change their choice from piracy to paying.

>>111460204
Listen, im telling you to just ignore the thread because no one wants to hear you bitch. Theres some people here that actually go out and do busy shit. So they dont have enough time to lurk and see every thread on /a/.

>>111460148
>Ignore the bullshit!

This is like the fucking miyazaki threads in january. Repetitive and stupid garbage. You all need to shut the fuck up. Nobody cares about your philosophy on piracy or why you pirate or why japan does anything or who the fuck cares. Shut up.

>>111460293
All or nothing, man.

>>111460319
no u

>>111457153
>talking shit about Sysadmin

I'll fight you, m8.

>>111460263
If they stop Fansubs they'll stop Daiz. Anime will be saved.

>>111459501
First 3 episodes should always be completely free, no strings attached.
Episodes should then vary between 1-5 dollars based on production budget and expected popularity.
Refunds should be expected if an episode has absolutely garbage art or animation.
When finished, series should be offered in a bundle discount, with the first 3 episodes still free.
A subscription service should allow you to get 4-5 for free, and discounts on additional episodes.
Episodes should be offered in a wide variety of downloadable, DRM free formats, including at least MKV with softsubs and chapters, in multiple filesizes, and in multiple languages, with 0 attempts at region locking.

Basically, the service should match or exceed what is provided for free by college students on their free fucking time.

>>111460319
Well apparently people do care.

>>111460291
Your forgetting an important point. If they treat these numbers like lost revenue they can sue anyone who tries to fight back for higher amounts than they would otherwise

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>>111460319
>>111460076
Hey, buddy. Have a drink. Relax.
Let's talk about this, ok? We don't have to be mean to people. People can be our friends. Look, they're not always gonna do what you want them to. Sometimes, they're gonna make threads you don't wanna read, and you know what? That's okay. You might see that thread, and think to yourself, "man, that really puts a weasel in my chicken coup," but here, friend, you have a choice to make: you can go into the thread, throw open the doors, and yell, "Hey! I don't want to see this kind of thing!" You can tell OP right where to stick it.

...But you have another choice, buddy. You can do that, you can take the combative route and estrange yourself from everybody here, or you can kill yourself.

>>111460263

Where were you when fansubbing died?

>>111460263

>'fans'

yeah japan, we all know people who hate anime would spend huge amounts of their own time learning japanese, translating, and releasing these hated shows

>>111460392
Your options are silly, but how about the option of merch?

"Better than free", is what I think the (fairly lofty) ideal is called.

>>111460291

Thanks for repeating posts made a hundred times before

>>111460293
>Theres some people here that actually go out and do busy shit. So they don't have enough time to lurk and see every thread on /a/.

If they don't lurk then they can get the fuck off of /a/.

And oh wow, a fucking petition, that's exactly what I expected.

>>111460134
Has anyone tried this? Any pics of results?

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>himado still exists
And now, the only person on the board who cared about this issue doesn't care.

>>111460392
>Basically, the service should match or exceed what is provided for free by college students on their free fucking time.
Impossible unless you're getting figurines or a lot of extra stuff that's worth the price.

>>111460263
Didn't do much good 4 years ago, and I'm expecting about the same effect now.

>>111460452
They knew about Daiz.

Kind of stupid for them to make access to them more difficult.

People aren't going to buy $600 DVD/Bluray sets by imports if they get cut off. They will just scrounge for any that does get localized at all. Preferably anything NOT Aniplex, costing a fortune for a season

>yfw this is the catalyst for the next World War as Japan puts serious pressure on various nations

>>111460478
One of the techs at a lab I work in does some amazing 3d models. If someone could give me a nice 3d scan of a modern figurine, I could probably print a reasonable plastic replica.

>>111460502

Oh but no, this is the end of anime forever! We need to talk about this, guys! More threads! MORE!

>>111460425
>Data hasshown
These guys are going to get raped aren't they.

>>111460454
I'm not asking for better than free, I listed some prices.

I'm asking for the service offered to be as good or better than what is provided by kids with a laptop. Valve did it. It could easily be worth it, if it's at a good price. The only problem is international copyright law and licensing, which means the Japanese companies have to be willing to play ball. And if they're not, fuck them. They deserve to have their shit pirated if they aren't vending their shit for its fair value. They're never going to stop it entirely, so they only have incentive to bring the price and convenience to a level where people say "I could pirate it, but it's easier, faster, and more reliable to to get it on anime-Steam or whatever the fuck it's called."

Do people really think they can stop the exchange of data/files over a global network?

>>111460762

grorious katana cut through a mirrion undersea caberru

people crying OH NOES JAPAN

they already tried this before and failed

i will just continue to download my Chinese cartoon girl shows without ever paying

>>111460832
but you're killing anime

>>111455893
Sun-Ken rock is on fucking crunchyroll you autist

>>111460535

Nothing is going to be changed by this.

>>111460667
> Valve did it.
>They deserve to have their shit pirated if they aren't vending their shit for its fair value
> "I could pirate it, but it's easier, faster, and more reliable to to get it on anime-Steam or whatever the fuck it's called."

Videogames are not fucking anime. Anime are not videogames. I don't know why you fucking /v/tards find this so hard to understand. That business model won't fucking work. it won't fucking work, no mattert how many times you repeat it over and over in these shit threads, it will never happen. Ever ever ever ever. Unless anime starts being as popular as videogames, which will never happen, ever ever ever ever.

>>111460848
it isn't available in my country anyways they can't lose something they never sold

>>111458783
My thoughts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qItugh-fFgg

>>111460866
You're right. Anime is easier to distribute and cheaper than video games, and would actually benefit more than a steam like system than video games did.

>>111460904
You dont understand, 5 billion has been lost in sales.

Because it's a 100% guarantee the people who download/stream that those people would have bought the works if pirating did not exist.

>>111460667
Videogames aren't anime. It won't work.
I pay for steam games for multiplayer, and trading and all that extra shit. There is nothing comparable to that in an anime, and therefore no reason that piracy will not be the better option than paying.

Be honest. Would anyone fucking follow the three episode rule if it cost you any money to watch episode 2 or 3 after a garbage introduction? Even something like 50 cents?

I would have easily made one bajillion dollars if those pirates didn't steal my shit. Pony up faggots!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-qs5HbFcD0

>>111461062
That's just you. A lot of people want to pay for anime but have absolutely no recourse to do so.

why don't they just

>make a website
>pay monthly
>watch at sweet ass anime HD
>no region restrictions


sadly those nips dont care because hurrrr i needuh to selluhh licesinguuuhh


i will just keep pirating if they dont have a legit way for me

Doesnt everything just air on TV for free in Japan anyway?

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>>111460478
See how rough and grainy they look. This is probably very close from what you can get using current affordable 3d printers.
I think things will be much better in 2 or 3 years, the new makerbots that can print at 100nm are pretty great but still too expensive.

I took the pic from this site but I didn't bother looking for what printer he's using.
http://www.kaetemi.be/wp/category/3dp/

>>111461074
people don't follow it now, so I guess not.
I never liked the 3 episode rule anyway. Eva's pretty shitty in the first 5 or so
episodes, but then it goes on to be amazing.
Lain is pretty boring up until episode 6 as well, but everything after is amazing as well.

>>111461074
dude you do know it airs on tv first right.

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>/a/ - "Our manga sites will never have a problem"
>Mangatraders incident, Batoto removing loli's etc
>/a/ - "Least our porn is save in the secret panda club"
>The great jacob reaping
>/a/ - "Don't worry, nothing will happen to our anime"

>>111460976
>Anime is easier to distribute and cheaper than video games, and would actually benefit more than a steam like system than video games did.

We already went through this in this very fucking thread. You need the volume of consumers to make streaming worth it. Anime does not have that. Videogames do. Videogames are a fucking massive, massive, massive industry, one of the biggest in the world right now. Anime is fucking tiny.It can't do it. It just won't fuicking work. Even with "global anime fans", which is also fucking nothing compared to videogames.

Think of comic books. They can't just go and release all their new releases for $1. It doesn't have the consumer base for it. It's a niche industry. It just doesn't work. It will never work.

>>111461161

Capitalize your fucking sentences.

And because that won't give them enough fucking money. They also don't CARE.

>>111461203
I actually kinda like the grainy look. It doesn't look so bad, and isn't that much of a trade off from regular figurines.

>>111461203
It is kind of grainy but still much better than I thought.
7/10 would buy

>>111455427
>studios: are we winning the war against piracy?
>copyright lawyers: of course we are! it's working great! just look at the numbers!
>assistant: won't they know you made those numbers up?
>copyright lawyers: of course not! they were dumb enough to believe our first set of numbers illustrating how much imaginary money they were losing!

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>>111461230
>"Piracy is fine guys! I use napster all the time!"
>napster dies
>"PIRACY IS KILLED FOREVER! IT'S ALL OVER, GUYS!! IIIIT'S AAAALLL OOOVVVEERRR!! THIS IS THE END!"

MT, SP, and everything else are transitory just like every fucking piracy site of the past decade has been. Stop overreacting to nothing.

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>>111461230
I love he said "Guyyz-z, I'm not a jew! My nose is big because I'm ilatian"

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I don't see what the big deal is. Unless you are some little kid(who shouldn't be on 4chan anyways) you should have enough money to get a crunch subscription. The only people who are throwing a fit are the kids who have to steal anime because they spent their allowance hanging out with their friends at the mall.

No body that should be on /a/ shouldn't have a CR subscription. If you are all Elitists who claim to love anime like you all say you do you wouldn't be stealing.

>20 billion loss
>implying they would even make any percentage of that if the people who are pirating would buy it originally.
They can't be this delusional right?

>>111461424

I know all you fucking braindead dipshits will respond to this seriously, going on some rant about CR and piracy and some other bullshit nobody wants to hear.

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>>111461424
Nice b8

>Japan
>Understand business model with internet.

Choose one. They were so late with mobile shit it is not funny.

>>111458962
>Theft of imaginary property
I suppose you think sticking a needle in a doll is the exact same thing as physical assault, too, eh?

Fuck off with your superstitious voodoo magic bullshit, no one else believes in it.

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>>111457883
Frankly, I strongly disagree.

The fact that Japan has not sold globally is probably the main reason as to why I watch it.

If anime were to be catered for a wider audience, we will have less lolis, less fanservice, less gore, less fucking everything that made anime interesting just to pander to plebs who spout m-muh children, m-muh privileges.

Fuck that.

>>111461203
Hey, wait
>February 16, 2012
This pic is already 2.5 years old. I bet it's much better now

>>111461062
Itune worked, netflix worked, I cannot see why anime wouldn't.

It's amazing how these old rich suits are still playing catch up with comprehending modern day advancements. Can't one of their yes men sit them down and explain to them the world has changed since the 80's?

>>111460044
that's cute anon

>>111461614
Those worked because they appealed to plebeians.
Do you really want anime to become plebeian?

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>>111461614

>Itunes
>worked

>>111457162
Nope, most of the time the producers actually pay the TV stations to air it. Late Night anime works like infomercials in the US.

>>111461676
Anime is already a plebian entertainment.

>>111461702
source?

>>111461634

Why? Anime is good because it isn't globalized. I can't believe you retards are mad about this shit.

>>111461424
>Sorry, due to licensing limitations, videos are unavailable in your region.

niggah i pirate all i want without paying

>>111461739
At least majority of it panders to the niche.

Thank Based XEBEC and SHAFT for that.

>>111461739
As long as it doesn't have gay, nigger or feminist propaganda - it's fine

How do i genuinely support a series as an overseas fan? Is there a licensed company that releases official scans of manga online really quickly? Cause Viz is slow as shit but their translations are better than most

>>111461602
Not really at sub-$3000 price ranges

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Going to make a program like steam, where you dont pay for monthly, and only pay when you want to buy an anime. When you're watching it, all your other friends can see what you're watching. Also going to implement a trading system to the program. I can gift you something, or we can trade my said anime, for your said anime.

Everyone that's going to pay already pays for crunchyroll. If you don't have a CR account, you're probably not going to pay for anything else. You'll keep finding excuses about little shit that prevent you from paying.

They're already making all the money that they can.

>>111461614

How many times, how many fucking times do we have to say this.
Everybody watches TV and movies. Everybody listens to music.
Very, very, very few people watch anime. And I mean actually watch it regularly as a main hobby just like TV and music, not just Cowboy Bebop 10 years ago on Toonami. And very, very, very few people will ever watch anime, because cartoons are for kids and will never be as widespread as it would need to. It would never fucking work.

>>111457644
>SnK is plagued by a weeaboo fanbase
You don't actually know what weeaboo means, do you? You seem to think it's a fancy word for intense anime geek.

>>111461422
"american italians" are actually jews

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>>111461835
Ofcourse ,not to much effort on their side

>>111461880
>netflix as anime

Video games are for nurds right guis XD

>>111461877
>"I want to support the animators!!!"
>"CR is best because they steal all the money from said animators"
You dont support shit. Sit the fuck down

>>111461748
Look it up, were not going to spoonfeed you. Its common knowledge and there's a lot written out there on how your animu sausage is made.

>>111461835

Buy the original products off of japanese websites.

>>111461877

This. CR is fucking it. To put it into perspective:

Netflix: 50,000,000 users
Steam: 65,000,000 users
iTunes: 800,000,000 users
Crunchyroll: 200,000 users

Yeah.

>>111461877
Even buying something out of J-list or Amiami supports more than a CR membership.

>>111462075
do you have info I can use against CR shills and friends of mine who use CR

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where is it now??

>>111455427
I support the industry by buying figures.

>>111461989
I did, but nothing found about that particular dealing in which anime studio pay for TV time-slot unless you mean the production committee"producers" which fund the whole shebang which was already prior knowledge.

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>>111462125
Try thinking for yourself you lazy teenage fuck. If you are too stupid to justify your own thievery, you deserve to get that ten inch dick up your ass when they send you to federal pound me in the ass prison for stealing animes.

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>>111462126
Japan is a little late /a/non. B-but they'll show you, th-thieves!

>>111462125
CR don't shares information about their earnings or where the money goes, but you can find information if you actually lurk.

>>111462177
>Send you to federal pound for stealing anime
Are they going to add years also for downloading unlicensed work too?? kek

>>111461877
>You'll keep finding excuses about little shit that prevent you from paying

That's not true. I only have one excuse, and that's that I don't give enough of a shit about anime to pay for something I can easily get for free.

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>>111462250

Although I do think that anime creators and mangaka shouldn't be losing money over pirating, that's what websites like Crunchyroll are for. The problem is that there are thousands of animes out there, and Crunchyroll just doesn't have them all. This is an awesome form of media that should be shared across the world, and we need websites like these in order to spread around those animes that aren't picked up by websites like Crunchyroll. To prove my point, just compare the anime found on a pirated site, and the anime found on Crunchyroll. Although Crunchyroll gives revenue to creators, has better quality etc, it cannot even compare to the sheer number of animes on other free websites. This law shouldn't be passed.

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>>111462363
>Although Crunchyroll gives revenue to creators, has better quality etc

>>111462363
Shill plz go

Imagine your life without Anime, because of Anime I learned a lot of new things, without those pirate release, I still didn't know there's tons of anime out there. Streaming not good, with the definition is so low and blur, just no no. For me, I'd like collect anime, and of course I'd buy those original to keep them, but I can't afford that much, because for a dvd volume BD version, the price is ridiculous at my country. You Japan governments are just begin declare a war toward the whole world's otaku, don't you?

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>>111460392
I only spend money on what I really like

>>111462363
>animes

>>111462363
>animes

>>111462449
Speak in English, please.

>>111462363
>animes

>You can't take our loli Japan!
>You can't take our hentai Japan!
>You can't take our anime Japan!
Gaijin are so learned about what laws should be and shouldn't be passed by the nips. What would Japan ever do without their guidance.

>>111462125
ez math brah

(Number for Conrolls subs) x (Cost per month x12) +(ad revenue) - (server cost+salary+licensing costs for the year+profit reap for CR) / (said number of show license on CR)

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>>111462449
Animes teach otaku like us so much.

>>111462363
>shouldn't be losing money over pirating

They're not though. That's not how it works. Do you honestly believe that every person who pirates anime would instead buy DVDs and BDs from Japan if free fansubs weren't available? I seriously hope you don't because that's just stupid. I'm going to take a guess and say that the overwhelming majority of people here who download free fansubs would just go back to playing videogames all day if their free options didn't exist.

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>>111462449

>>111462449
>Streaming not good, with the definition is so low and blur, just no no.
Wait, we're back in 2005?

>For me, I'd like collect anime, and of course I'd buy those original to keep them, but I can't afford that much, because for a dvd volume BD version, the price is ridiculous at my country. You Japan governments are just begin declare a war toward the whole world's otaku, don't you?
You're a flipfag. I know it. Please go back to facebook. And do go out picking wars with countries when you know you can't even win a civil one.

>if they can't pirate it they'll surely buy it instead
Oh you crazy Nips.

>>111462512
Get annex by China or nuked by DPROK within a week of not having that gaijin guidance.

>>111462517
Then once you do that, all you have to do is solve by x ( [3x - 3x^2 +1]^744 ) x ( [- 3x + 3x^2 +1]^745 )

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>>111462449
back to facebook please.

>>111462363
Anime creators have no real say in the matter, they just animate the shit.

It's the production committee which funds all the anime that are bitching since its their intellectual property unless you count Original Anime "kyoani's recent stuff,studio triggers". So the committee get royalties and they want more.

>>111462644
I know the 9gag, funnymama and other shit is just bait, but please stop funposting. All you are going to do is encourage actual faggot to start posting that shit and it creates a negative feedback loop where we end up with newfriends seeing it and thinking they can post which causes other newfriends to start posting and on and on.

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>>111462644
>Thank you, anime

Anime is important, well for me it is. Because it teaches you life lessons and to be who you are. I love anime and I love how I could watch anime easily just by those sites. Because of anime I got friends, before I met anime I was a loner and so I just have to thank the people who made anime and of course the people who made the sites for letting me watch anime with no problems at all.