Japanese goverment's Manga-Anime-Here site has just opened.
Here is a movie from Manga-Anime Gurdians Project.
Maybe those 15 some-odd animu and mango companies needs to put up resources to make animu and mango that can actually SELL outside of Wapan (and stop sucking otaku dicks). Hopefully that would stop half of the bleeding.
>click on "Anime"
>every entry on the page is manga
>every entry just links to an external website
>In the ranking by an information distribution survey site, for example, a popular piracy site is ranked 156th in Japan and 1391th in the world
They're talking about nyaa
>Japan officially encourages people to use Crunchyroll
>/a/ still pretends that CR doesn't help the anime industry
Am I too drunk or does this make no sense?
>Even if it's to helps somebody.
If having to wait to buffer a video that looks like garbled ass is needed to help somebody, maybe that person deserves the situation they're in.
It helps the anime industry in that it helps producers who make money on licensing deals to offer legal streams. It doesn't help the actual artists/studios involved, so most people don't (and shouldn't) give a fuck.
I would do it, honestly. If it was at a reasonable price, meaning lower than it currently is in Japan, I'd totally buy some BDs.
But keyword is reasonable pricing, as Japanese people don't want to accept reasonable pricing models.
>It is a shocking fact that over 120% of the human race breathes air, which means that by not charging for it, the loss of profit for our company is an estimated eleventy-billion dollars per year.
>A pirated download is a lost sale!!!!!
My fucking sides. People who download free shit aren't going to start buying that same shit if it was cut off from them. They'd stop watching it all together. Enjoy your loss of free marketing, retarded nips.
Of course they are anon.
>Our current service is not available in your country.
>It's on CR
Yep, they don't give a shit about the site.
>LOGH clip in the video
>not on the site
>novel translations never
Regrettable. Minister of Economy reports! Many manga and anime fans, illegal!
Damage cost. 20 billion. 6 billion of China!
Ranking list, pirate high. High, major company! Shocking truth! Volumes, big download. Serious! Movie stolen too!
Pirate, sell site. Unclear reason.
A shitty, horribly designed page with botched english, "Legal alternatives" that don't legally work in my country at all and mostly consist of overpriced, horribly translated stuff and propaganda against piracy that only make sense if you're on drugs or completely ignore reality. I really wanted to give this project a chance, but if that's what they honestly give us, then fuck them. I will never stop pirating as long as they treat me like a retard.
>manga anime guardians
This is a special kind of squareness
>Another example of showing you the serious situation of piracy is the number of illegal downloads of a popular Manga series from the piracy site: 41,363DLs for volume 67, 39,623DLs for volume 68, and 31,924DLs for volume 69.
MPAA/RIAA/etc use it, so every anti-piracy group has to also use it. that's how it works, when enough rich people say the same line of retarded bullshit that isn't true, it actually becomes true and it would be wrong to not use it as much as possible.
Does that mean that if I keep pirating Shaft shows they will eventually go out of business?
>SHERE ON TWITTER
>the other buttons say "SHARE"
>SHAFT going out of business with Monogatari and Madoka
>not the more relevant (and retarded) sequel
I bet you didn't even rip the song from Youtube, burn them onto discs, and give said discs to random strangers.
>pirates are sooo evil and destroy our moneyz
I will never get those guys
Arigatou doesn't sound like anything now.
Friendly reminder, pirates
Enjoy your eternal damnation
Sure, I'll stop pirating.
When things are actually released in my country. In quality that isn't atrocious. In prices that aren't ridiculous.
There's always XDCC even then.
I can only give you what happened to me
>Click on thread
>Go to website
>Keep on stop piracy
>Get worried because nyaa might get shut down
>30 seconds later and 20 posts read
>Laughing my ass off at japanese business models
This has been the best thread I've been in for a longer time.
Friendly reminder that you're a fucking retard who can't differentiate between file-sharing and ACTUAL theft.
I would be very impressed if they managed to get them to go down. However people care because this is quite amusing, and you would think that these companies could hire a couple translators and editors to make their website look like something other than a google translation.
>No online reading
>No DRMless download
Ok folks, scanlation still wins. Japs seems to think that Anime fans outside Japan = Americans. But that's okay. Looks like we 3rd worldians are still free to scanlate since we're not in their target audience.
I wanted to support this. But it's still doesn't work for me. 0/10 Japan. You just wasted money.
>>Licensed By Sentai.
>>Second Season Coming.
Shocking Green Letters Truth.
XDCC is quicker and downloads from the start so you can play it while it downloads.
The disadvantage is it's a lot less convenient than just setting up an RSS feed that does everything for you, but there's probably some script out there that negates that problem.
>Japs seems to think that Anime fans outside Japan = Americans.
This. As a Frenchman who spent an incalculable amount of my parents' money on nip shit, this pisses me off quite a bit.
No you don't you only have to type in the command and not pay attention to what's going on in the chat. Hell, with some bots you don't even have to join the channels they're set up in.
Yup, I think that I will continue flying skull&bones.
When will people get a fucking head on their shoulders and realise nine times out of 10 people don't pirate just out of absolute spite. Nip shit official releases are almost always of a quality worse than a fansub at a stupidly fucking high price.
>mfw they spoil
the entire ant arc
>Japs seems to think that Anime fans outside Japan = Americans
That's the problem. I'm german and there's not one acceptable streaming service especially not for anime. All we get are a very few big and/or ancient shows, mostly horribly translated and dubbed(you murricans don't know how good your dubs are compared to the disgusting bullshit we get) without any japanese sound or subs at all. Asking me to stay legal is like an insult.
What is the best way of supporting the industry outside of buying overpriced bd's and figs?
I can't read nip, so are the only options I've got are a CR account and to buy mango that's been published in English?
2016, hentai is banned
2017, all non-shounen animu and mango is banned
2018, all non-fightan shounen anime banned
2019, Nips wonder why less and less people are interested about their cartoons
2020, Olympics, amount of Korean and Chinese comic fans is rising
2025, Mao's Little Red Book the animated version sells 1.6 billion copies
>In these days, “pirates” are getting advertisement revenue, kick-bucks from cyberlockers, affiliations with E-commerce sites, or selling Apps.
I checked the jap page, it's ?????? (kickback).
>$20 billion lost potential sales
Even if that wasn't a bullshit statistic, who the fuck cares? According to this fucked up "lost sales" method, the mainstream entertainment industries lose "trillions" of dollars every year.
Alright then, time go buy Berser -
>0 search results
Oh well, site is new, let's try something else:
>Oyasumi Punpun, 0 search results
No problem, no problem, I can still g-
>Blade of the immortal, 0 search results
>Blame, 0 search results
>Left hand of god, right hand of the devil, 0 search results
>Eden, 0 search results
Alright, calm down, let's see the catalog
>scrolling through endless manga like naruto, bleach, attack on titan
>click on Claymore
>links to other sites
They think that's the problem? That I don't know where to get them legally? Well fuck you too.
Torrents are 2 clicks away. Back to piracy it is then!
This makes me less willing to spend money on animu. Great job Nippon
Curing cancer, building FTL-engines, solving the world hunger, shit like that.
As you can see the world has benefitted from us choosing to waste our lives away by watching chinese cartoons.
It's weird they'd target America first since it has the biggest entertainment industry in the world to compete with. It's like fighting the final boss right after leaving the first town.
Kill a nip
Download a Rip
YOU MONSTER! I THOUGHT YOU WERE A NICE GUY!
I wonder if I can ransom a torrent for trillions of yen/dollars
>IF YOU DON'T PAY ME NOW, I'LL DOWNLOAD ANOTHER SERIES!
>I WON'T EVEN WATCH IT, HAHA!
It completely ruins it though. People in the blocked regions are just going to pirate so they don't have to wait. That is the state of the global consumer market now and if the Japanese distributors want to curb piracy they're going to have to start by making sure content that is licensed for streaming is available worldwide.
>Want to see what the list ends on
>if we assume 1 episode ~ .5 of one GB
>i have ~ 2.5 TB
>which would mean ~ 5,000 episodes
>japs sell bds for ~ 5,000 jpy with two eps a pop
>this comes out to 12,500,000 jpy
>I have stolen ~ 125,000 USD of anime
OH GOD, I AM LITERALLY WORSE THAN HITLER
>oh god, all this shounenshit
>oh, Umineko, okay, let's see...
Great reading links, Japan.
>omg guys hundred squintillion lost yen due to piracy!!!!
>we're not actually doing anything to improve legal alternatives, we're just here to bitch!
Yeah, good job Japan, I'm sure that'll help a lot.
Also, this whole effort is going to shut down some illegal streaming sites as most. Nothing of any real value will be lost.
Come on Japan, get on with the times. But what could we expect from a coutry that has a population that's just getting older and older?
Just look at Steam, I only started buying original games after Steam appeared.
I clicked manga and got about 5 pictures of Milky Holmes and some other stuff. Is it random for people?
I import manga fairly regularly, but Japan will never make me buy BDs. It's far too expensive. CR is shit and doesn't stream a lot of things in my country.
Can we just all agree that this site is just something they threw together in a few minutes so as to justify taking down some streaming sites? You only have to take one look at it to see it's not serious.
I wank off all over a picture of the rising sun.
Canadian netflix is shit and I don't watch anime on a TV I watch it on my PC monitor.
I buy figures and occasionally some manga. Anime is just too hard to get hold of here and is horrendously priced for what would ultimately just be something I'd collect and never open.
>480p max quality
And you say CR is bad.
I like this kind of initiative.
Of course it will hurt us financially, but I mean, come on guys, I understand how the guys making all this shit is getting annoyed and they fail because the majority of the people who enjoy their works, does so without earning them any profit. It's nice to see this kind of initiative, but I think (I haven't really checked this out) they're going about it wrong. If I could pay an okay amount for BDs with english subs, I'd gladly do so, but as it stands now, I have a VERY limited option of BDs that I want, and that has english subs.
Guys, suppose that they made a site where you could get all the content (manga with good translations and up to date with japanese releases and anime with good subs and good image quality). Would you pay a subscription fee, like 15 dollars/month for it?
I want to buy BDs and I do sometimes, but it's always WAY too expensive to get it from Nippon. They should make some sort of "anime-shipping" stuff along with this "MAG" stuff.
Shit, you're right. For a measly 18$ I will be able to enjoy watching this cartoon for the whole 2 weeks! Buying right now.
Imagine living in a culture where after a long day after work/school, you cycle down to your local manga store or go into the city, you bump into all the otaku regulars you know, all shy and buying their products quietly. All the latest releases are on the shelf and you've saved up all the week for the next edition. Anything and everything you could want is there, it's raw, it's new. On the wall you notice a poster advertizing a live show featuring your favorite seiyuus. It's in a few months and it's only two towns over, so you decide to save up and go. When you get home after buying your manga, you switch on the TV and the latest anime is streaming live, fresh on the airwaves. Your bros come over later to masturbate to some ero comics you all bought at the last Comiket, taking it in turns weekly to swap and enjoy.
Now compare that experience to paying for shit streaming of nothing but shounen. The experience will never be the same. Hell if I lived in Japan, I'd happily buy everything. But we don't live in such a culture. Instead I can buy shit CDs and DVDs from music shops that are closing down, hipster clothes and freedom fries on every corner.
Of course, but the fact of the matter is that what they need is money. Without money, they have no chance of even starting to change the anime-industry. It's all connected, and it's got to start with money.
If you pay for CR though that's you saying you're happy with CRs service. American or not supporting CRs awful banding issues, questionable translations from 1/2 staff is silly.
Plus it's not even just CR anymore, it's Funimation and Daisuki every so often. It's like paying for tv 3 times.
I imported some shows and manga after finishing them illegally. I'm too poor to just buy everything, but I support the shit that deserves it. But how should i know if something is worth supporting without consuming it? The situation would be different if i was a nip and could see this shit on TV, but i'm not japanese. I'm a kraut. There's little to no way to watch a non-shounen anime or something recent,especially in a good quality(german anime translations are the devil), without going illegal. Also streaming, be it free or paid, is a joke here.
To make it short: Fuck you.
Is there anything this site or any of these sites actually offer to me as a consumer that makes it an attractive option over piracy?
I pirate anime because it is immeasurably more convenient and cheaper than any of these services. Until individual products or a service they are part of is 1) attractive over piracy and 2) more convenient than piracy, I have no reason to "help the industry" as a consumer.
Wait wait wait wait wait
haha your fucking plan
holy shit let me get this straight
your plan, your initiative that cost your taxpayers money
seriously though your big plan was to literally go
>>>/crunchyroll/ to the entire internet
THAT'S YOUR PLAN?
Not pirating Animu and Mango is pure shit,
You don't go to the supermarket and buy a Yoghurt just to look at the package.
I bought all my Anime after pirating it.
Anime isn't cheap, not everyone has enough money.
I don't wanna spent 60USD/50EURO/7000YEN on something I open once to realize its pure bullshit and I rather bought a gun with that money to shoot myself in the face rather than knowing Iw asted that much money on just one DVD.
Pirating Anime and Manga is love.
Pirating Anime and Manga is live.
OP is a faggot.
>That Brony friend of yours who wears a trenchcoat, fedora, and names all of his OC's after Ayn Rand characters insists on smoking nothing but M.A.G cigs,
I'm ready to watch the industry defense force in action.
CR has 200,000 subscribes, the most expensive subscription is only $50-60 a year? They have to pay all of their costs out of that and make their own profits. It doesn't take a genius to work out that you would need far fewer people to import a single series on BD a year worldwide to out contribute the whole of the crunchyroll operation.
after discovering Hulu actually uses a monthly subscription model but STILL FORCES YOU TO WATCH ADVERTISEMENTS i came to realize CR isn't as jew as it possibly could be
which means the 5 guys who are collectively known as "Shinji" will probably start jewing casualfags with commercials soon
The funny part is all the have to do is all they'd need to do is make "official" releases of anime on DVD with english subs for 15-30 usd and the piracy of non airing shows would start to go down on its own.
B-but I like the culture..
But yeah, I see what you mean. They've had some projects though. Anime Mirai does so indirectly, and the "Animator Dorm" fund-raiser was also completed a while back. But I see what you mean, and I think that if they got more money, the companies wouldn't ease any of the load of the animators backs as the first thing. But I mean, it's totally different here. You can see Bahi blowing his ass inside out because he's from "not-Japan" and is used to having freedom to do what the fuck he wants, and he looks like a complete retard whenever he tries into Japanese.
Tell me when they enable downloading. Making me pay for my anime and still not allowing me to own a copy of it is not something I'd call a nice deal. And before you compare it to going to a movie theater, they don't offer me a huge screen and sound system on CR, on the contrary, I'd get a much lower quality than I do with pirating.
Japan should learn from this man about how to stop piracy.
By hosting gigantic summer sales where you can buy anime for pennies?
Having every anime you watch drop a hat at irregular intervals that you can sell on the anime-hat market to buy more anime?
I am pretty sure nips reverse import anime all the time. its why there has to be such a huge time gap in releases. Why the fuck would you pay almost triple for the same thing? just change the voices to jap and turn off subtitles.
Force people to use a locked down service by limiting content to that service with a mandatory check to see if its a legitimate purchase, turning the commodity into a one time user item, in turn killing any form of market sharing or resale value?
People have been trying pay per episode for a variety of different things since early 2000 and it never caught on. People would much rather pay like 10 bucks to watch a whole season as it airs for 15-20 bucks for a service.
I fucking love Steam because it's the first time that I, as a brazilian that has to deal with terrible overpriced games and electronics, could pay less than an american for a game.
I don't justify my activities, I am a filthy pirate and all the manga that's accumulating in my bookcase will never make up for it. Trying to justify this shit means being incredibly delusional.
I buy figures but not to justify my pirating. I like collecting figures.
Also all the figures I own I wouldn't have known about the characters if I didn't pirate the show, so fuck you.
>Those guys watching K-On at the end
Are they enjoying it too much or have I been watching anime wrong all along?
Also this anon already expressed my opinion perfectly: >>111268474
This website makes piracy seem so cool.
Before I just pirated things casually and it was no big deal, but now it feels like I'm standing up to The Man and being a resistance fighter every time I click download! Thanks Jews! You spice up my boring life.
>GABEN'S SUMMER ANIMOE AND MANGAR SALE HAS BEGUN IT'S HAPPENING
>75% off of Bleach anime
>75% off Naruto mango
>80% off ALL Yugi-Oh!
>66% off Knights of Sidonia, manga and anime
>33% off of NEW anime series K-on! s3: Azunyan's New Hotness
>90% off old-forgotten-halfassed-series
>10% off [email protected]! (FUCK YOU GABEN THAT'S NOT A DEAL. THAT'S NOT A DEAL AT ALL I BET MIKI IS BEHIND THIS)
>one day they give away a copy of M.D. Geist FOR FREE!
shit sale? shit sale.
I don't but I'm gonna buy a bootleg dakimakura sometime soon.
With pic to start with (sorry for the shitty quality), then with the rest of my manga.
I download anime because encodes are better than DVD/BD and because I'm a poor neet.
Yes. They have been getting better at it but because their original models were built over cutting the world up into regions and physically controlling the distribution of content between those regions they got royally fucked when the Internet got to the point where you could easily transfer the content over it.
Now they have to rebuild their models but they're being really slow about it, which is probably in part because they are trying to conduct all these lawsuits at the same time.
It didn't stop it but it provided a great service in which you could buy games at a reasonable price and probably lowered down piracy at least. Totally different from what Japan is stupidly trying to do here.
It really has though. Like Gaben said, piracy is almost always a service issue. Steam is just as easy as pirating.
>go to store page
>add to cart
>go to website
>find a good quality release
But anon, you're a loser in real life. Why don't you take stuff you want in real life as well? Why do you pay for candy if you want it? Why do you pay for food when you need it, don't you just take what you want?
I just realized that almost every game i own is legally bought via steam. But i only own half a dozen legally bought anime(and with that most likely more than the majority of /a/), because it's so much more convenient.
Piracy creates a larger, happier international userbase and acts are free advertising, allowing many more fans to access anime
Forcing officially licensed streaming creates a smaller, more restricted userbase and kills interest since few services are really successful, block users in non-approved countries, and results in poor quality videos with low-quality subtitles due to cost cuts and lack of competition making companies lazy (crunchyroll is a great example)
Ending piracy will be an effective method to making slightly more money while killing off the future of anime for ever
So whats going to happen to nyaa? What methods are used other than torrenting right now?
>Having every anime you watch drop a hat at irregular intervals that you can sell on the anime-hat market to buy more anime?
It would be great, I wonder how many of "that one guy with 900 cards of his waifu" would appear.
IF they can pull off some real service (translated LN and manga in decent time and quality) it may be interesting.
The problem Cr is basically just normal fansub done by unprofessional translators : so why the fuck I should pay for the exact same service I can get for free?
Of course, but those people wouldn't have bought it anyway. Steam just makes it so much easier for people who do have the money. It seems like lots of people actually do like to support the developers if it's easy and not bankrupting to do so.
Piracy is still bad, its just that theres no other good way for fans to gasp anime and people don't want to take to streaming services. Most of the money weabs from here and other sites spend on anime goes to merch anyways.
Agreed. If anyone has bothered to notice, piracy has always been illegal. And yet here we are, erstwhile pirating shit, discussing how to continue pirating when these new (likely useless) initiatives take effect.
Learn Japanese, travel to Japan and make several deals with people at the high seats in the industry so you can start a firm focused on bringing anime to the west in a format that's convenient, high quality and justly priced.
With piracy I'm able to obtain a video file, carry it around in any format on any device I want, and play it whenever with zero restrictions. How could this be allowed while stopping people from distributing the files?
Gaben is full of shit. Steam is a successful business model because it takes advantage of a large user base, its sales, and by having a practical monopoly on digitally downloadws pc titles. He didn't come up with some kind of superior service that turns off pirates, he took advantage of other factors that would let him turn a profit, which is exactly what netflix and CR try and do, and they aren't stopping piracy either.