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>In cooperation with 15 major anime production companies and manga publishers, the Japanese government will next month start a huge extermination operation against 580 foreign sites which have illegally uploaded anime and manga contents on the web without the copyright holders' permission, NHK reported on July 28. While the government has started supporting the genre as one of their important cultural exports, there appears to be no end of illegal uploading of anime and manga via pirate sites, mainly operated by Chinese. The Cultural Affairs Agency estimates the loss caused by the Chinese pirate sites last year was amounted to at least 560 billion yen (about US$ 5.5 billion).

>On August 1, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents to the operators of the 580 foreign pirate sites which they have found. In addition, the operation will launch a new site to guide the fans to a legitimate site offering some 250 titles including the latest ones at a cost of several hundred yen.

Any info on nyaa and bakabt, are we in trouble?

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20140728/t10013332551000.html
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Well it's about time I grew out of this shit anyways
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>>111262910
So Mangafox is finally going to die?
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DAMN YOU DAIZ
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>>111262910
>mainly operated by Chinese

They're mainly going to attack chinese sites, isn't nyaa in like Sweden or something?
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Stop making these fucking threads.
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>>111262910
>On August 1, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents to the operators of the 580 foreign pirate sites which they have found.

"Hey you, stop stealing."

"No."

"...well, we tried."

Yeah we sure are in "trouble".
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Do you think, the community is too stupid to use piratebay?
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>>111263022
Mainly, but if they attack a couple of western torrents, we're doomed. Maybe, it's P2P time and stuff.
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>>111262910
>the Japanese government will next month start a huge extermination operation
PANOC
>the government will start simultaneously sending requests

Who writes this shit.
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Nobody fucking cares.
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>>111263036
>Yeah we sure are in "trouble".
You know about Fakku and Sadpanda, right?
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>>111263235
The horsefucker that runs Sad Panda is a spineless faggot and an idiot.
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>>111263311
This.
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I hope our lord Daiz will save us from this menace.
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>>111263311
Bakabt too. Nyaa? We don't know... yet.
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>>111263334
You mean daiz will sell out

You can now download an ep for $5.99 for the first 300 Mb
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>>111263388
>Nyaa
The mods shitpost in threads of subgroups they don't like. The admin and Daiz are our only hope.
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> I'd expect them to be able to take down some shitty illegal streaming sites at most, so nothing of value will be lost.
Word of God.
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>>111263514
>making bigger files more expensive so more people will use 10-bit
Sasuga, Daiz.
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>>111262910
if hollywood with all its jew bucks cant stop anyone from downloading movies, do you really think japan stands a chance?
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I'll worry about Nyaa when Piratebay gets actually shut down.
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>>111263658
Japan is a tiny country.
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>>111263658
Because animu contributors are dumb. For example, canlators delete manga and don't use piratebay. They're worse, than Nazi.

And you know, that Bakabt delets every licensed shit out there.
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>>111263841
Come back when you can type English, Cirno.
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>>111263691
>>111263841
so now our pirating is going to be EXTRA illegal?
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>>111263691
For you.
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Bakabt are still adhering to Box's shitty old policies, and considering newfag probably doesn't even know what boxtorrents is anymore I imagine they're too far below a radar for ANYONE to care.

they'll probably DMCA sadpanda again because of that faggot Jacob
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>mangafox
>mangapanda
>mangashit
You will not be missed
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>>111263955
OK, I'm back.
>>111263986
Going deeper.
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Welp, time for IRC.
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>>111262910
So? Pirating anime was already illegal. The only possible change is you might (not very likely unless you use Chinese torrent sites) have to change what website you download/torrent from.
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So how exactly is the Japanese government going to do anything about sites operated outside of Japan? Is this why Abe wanted to change article 9?
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>>111262910
Piracy is what brought anime here in the first place.

And i don't think people from the west will massively buy anime all the sudden since their websites are gone heck there will be even fewer sales in the west then it is now.
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>>111264639
Plenty of webhosts will comply with takedown requests from the owner if you're hosting copyrighted content. It causes a lot of trouble for streaming sites to deal with it.

If they don't comply with a takedown request, then it's unlikely that they'll really go to court to try to take down the website. But having to jump from host to host could be a big hassle for some of the streaming sites so I bet a few of them would go down.

That's my experience for US/European sites, but I'm not sure what Chinese hosts do. I think they don't give a shit at all.
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>>111264830
Yes, from the copyright holder, but how is that any different from the situation as it is right now? The Japanese government does not own any copyrights personally, so I don't see what their help is going to change.
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>>111264639

They will try to use intimidation, demanding, threatening, citing international law, "consequences will never be the same", etc.

Then if there isn't a response, they may try and contact local governments. But for the most part, this is a lost cause unless the site is being hosted in a country with strict piracy laws.
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>>111264830
Fuck the streaming sites, it'd be excellent if they all died. Parasitic shitheads like the people who run ad-ridden streaming sites for the sole purpose of obtaining their filthy advertising shekels deserve to have their livelihoods killed.
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>>111263523
I trused Tenboro when he said Wani was handled, and look where that got us.

I won't be burned again.
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>>111263235
Hosting anything in the US is fucking retarded.
Yes, sadpanda is hosted in the US, seriously.

Nyaa and BakaBT are in the Netherlands.
TT is in the Ukraine.

DMCA and whatever tools Japan has are ineffective.
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>>111265463
I thought the pands was hosted in Denmark or something.
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>>111265496
Why are they responding to DMCAs then?

They aren't required to.
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It's okay, Daiz will save us.
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>>111265542
You aren't required to respond to DMCAs even in the U.S., right? If you don't respond to them, though, it encourages them to sue.
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>>111262910
>Foreigners downloading anime that is unavailable to them normally
>Profit loss
Pick one
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>>111265639
Sure, but they have a direct legal consequence.
Overseas they do as much as an email asking you to stop doing whatever you are doing.
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Wow, nothing is changing. Literally retarded shitpost made to scare the fucktards and drama queens on /a/.
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>>111265587
Don't hang on to his shiny bald head, your fingers will slip.
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>>111264830
Why would anybody care about streaming sites?
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>>111265463
Netherlands best country with denmark to host stuff
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>>111262910
On foreign sites?
Hah!
Get wrecked Japan, even the US has not been able to do that with child porn.
And you want to try it just for copyright fees.
Dumb
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The way I always seen it trying to take stuff down via force is just like throwing rockets at a hornet nest
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>>111265463
>Nyaa and BakaBT are in the Netherlands.
Isn't nyaa in sweden? Anyway, I finally found a reason to be proud of my country.
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>>111265978
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>>111265978
>throwing rockets at a hornet nest
Seems pretty effective.
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>>111266101
this

>>111265978
you are dumb as fuck
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>>111262910
>Estimated loss 560 billion yen
>Implying that anyone would have bought even 1% of shit they torrented
>Implying half the shit they churn out would have had any attention if people had to pay for them

Estimated loss figures from piracy always annoys me to no end.
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This means nothing.
The worst that can happen is some series raws take a little longer to be uploaded if they stop the chinese from doing it early.

The US can't keep the pirate bay down so what makes you think a small ass country (in comparison) like Japan will be able to do anything?
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>>111262910
What's the best ambassador of Japan in the world ?
Yeah, manga and anime.
Without that, nobody would give a fuck about Japan.
And they want to stop that ?
A whole generation has learned to love Japan without Japan having to do anything, an they want to stop that ?
Because of manga and anime, a lot of people see Japaneses as equals at last, and they want to stop that ?
In todays world, there is nothing more valuable than good advertising, and they want to stop this subtle, free advertising they got worldwide ?
I can't find a single word to resume the extent of that kind of stupidity.
I'm MAD.

Pic related. The power of popular culture.
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>>111266396
The fact that people treat it like the most black and white thing ever is pretty maddening.
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http://manga-anime-here.com/

The site's up.
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>>111266049
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>>111266444
they are giving us legal alternatives!
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>>111266444
>In todays world, there is nothing more valuable than good
Money
Or the prospect of it.

Full metal jacket was a shitty movie by the way.
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Will cc0721 be put in prison and get raped by Taiwanese faggots?
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>>111262910
>In cooperation with 15 major anime production companies

CAPITALISM HO
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>>111266833
Money is only worth a 1:1 ratio of value, you only have as much money as you have.
Good advertising is far more valuable, you can turn a few million into a few billion.
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>>111262910
this is gonna be...tragic?

If i cant acces the mangos and animus i watch, what i am supposed to do? wait half a year for oficial dubs or subs?

meh, i think this might end up bitting em back
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Why don't they just put shit up for free (legitimately) and make money like everyone else does through premium services and advertising?

What's so hard about this?
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>>111267034
Because, being the jewish fucks they are, they want to suck your wallet dry as much as possible. But then people rebel against this by putting up file-sharing websites.

Welcome to the age of corporatism. Piracy is the only way left to fight back.
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I think Neil Gaimen put it best

Can't beat free advertising
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>>111262910
I'll stop pirating when it's more convenient and faster to pay for it

so never
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>>111262910
>250 titles
>compared to all the shit on nyaa, batoto, bakabt, and sadpanda
What the fuck are they even thinking?
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How many of these have we had at this point with nothing having changed
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>>111267170
this happens when a select few companies try to monopolize the market.
It usually goes like this: Oh you wanted to watch [insert your favourite anime]? Too bad watch this [generic shounen episode 4352354] instead!

their greed is literally trying to kill anime
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>>111267170
Having 250 titles on launch is not bad at all really.
Especially since they have the majority of hit series right now and that's the majority of pirated downloads.

Obviously this won't get rid of the big sites, but it may get some of the normalfags to paying for their manga. Could've been a worse attempt
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>On August 1, the government will start simultaneously sending requests to delete illegal anime and manga contents to the operators of the 580 foreign pirate sites which they have found. In addition, the operation will launch a new site to guide the fans to a legitimate site offering some 250 titles including the latest ones at a cost of several hundred yen.

That doesn't sound too bad for me but I feel bad for you NEETs out there.
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>>111266396
Do you know what the revenue difference is between 0 people buying something and 10000000000000 people pirating something?

NOTHING
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>taking down the Chinese through legal actions

they can't be serious...
building a fucking warp engine within this decade would be more feasible
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>>111262910
>Any info on nyaa and bakabt, are we in trouble?
I haven't used either of those sites in over a year.
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This thread again.

It doesn't matter if they take out 50 million sites, all the animu will be available one way or another. Sure, mango isn't in its best days, but that can't be helped.
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>>111266984
We go back to the source. Rev up those Amigas, where do i send my tapes ?
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>>111266444
>Japan exists in the international world solely for anime and manga
I know this is /a/: Anime and Manga but come on
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>>111267474
What's even more hilarious is it's the fucking JAPS thinking they can get the fucking Chinese government to enforce foreign IP laws of any sort. The chinks have been jacking everything from movies to missile schematics from the US for years and basically respond "cry more, you bitches" when the US complains about it. Fuck all is going to happen, especially to the chinks.
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>>111267565
Isn't Japan the third largest economy in the world, only recently bumped from 2nd by China?
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Where's Commie hosted.?
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>>111267601
>mfw WW3 happens because Japan wants China to stop pirating its animu
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>>111267465
If zero people bought your product than you obviously fucked up somewhere. The piracy just emphasizes that.

Single-player only games like Skyrim are easy as shit to pirate yet developers are getting plenty of sales. Why? Because they made somtehing fans consider worthy of buying.

There are only 2 things you need to do to curb piracy.
1. Make a good product at a reasonable price
2. Make sure it's just as easy to get that product legally as it is to pirate it.
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>>111267750
>reasonable price
Animu never.
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>>111266444
Also games, don't forget that.
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>>111267684
ask them
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>>111267647
And anime/manga counts for less than 0.5% of that. Even in Japan this stuff is a niche market, claiming that it has any influence on the international stage is silly. You silly anon.
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>>111267684
Nyaa
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>>111267750
>>111267822
Anime prices really are such fucking bullshit. Fuck the nips for still buying that shit. How do otaku always have so much money?
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>>111267750
People pirate because they dont want to pay for it. Doesn't matter if the show costs $80 or $40 they still arent going to buy it.
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>>111267905
I was agreeing with you, you doofus; the post you were responding to you wasn't me. My point was that Japan is wildly important for a whole lot of reasons besides anime and manga.
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>>111267937
The prices are what keeps the whole industry afloat, you fucking moron.
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>>111267937
They dont buy anything else. Its easy to have disposable income when you dont go outside, dont own a car, dont have to pay for gas, dont go to movies or wherever with friends. Or live at home and dont pay for anything but animu
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So what? If they attack illegal streaming sites all it will do is piss off some plebs who actually watch stream anime with watermarks, adds, shitty quality and stolen subs. They are doing the community a service. I don't really pirate manga so I can't give two fucks about that either. I seriously doubt they can do anything about torrents though and as long as exhentai is alive I'm happy.
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>>111267937
>How do otaku always have so much money?
Baito and their parents, anon. Girls can sell their panties and suck middle aged men's cocks.
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You can't stop piracy in 2014 you fucking can't.

It's grew too big now there is no way to deal with it at all. Arresting and charging a few people here and there isn't going to do nothing.
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>>111268087
do japanese grills really watch anime?
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>>111267972
If they were never going to buy it then the piracy means nothing. It had zero effect on the company.
However there are plenty of cases where fans would pay money but choose not to.
A good example would be most of /a/. I know at least I would buy anime if I could get it on BD or a BD-quality download and subbed at a reasonable price. $100 for a 12 episode series is not reasonable and that is why no one outside of japan is buying it on a large scale.
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>>111267972
Apple made it for music and games, Steam made it.
>>111268000
You must be kidding, man. Prices down, sells up.
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First they take our sweet, vanilla hentai, and now they would aim for our anime and manga
Do they not understand that their prices are outrageous and they are only hurting themselves
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>>111267750
But that applies only to US vidya. Not even Japan vidya is that affordable, much less anime BDs or DVDs.
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>>111268114
Yep, females are a sizable part of the overall demographic and plenty of things cater to them specifically.
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>>111268050
Depends what you mean by "alive." It's still alive, but it took a bullet to the chest and is bleeding heavily. Recovery is uncertain.
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>>111268099
>Lelouch saying something intelligent
It's truly the end of days.
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>>111268168
>>You must be kidding, man. Prices down, sells up.
Please, kill yourself. You know absolutely nothing about business or niche industries.
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>>111268114
No but they can be used to barbecue meat and stuff.
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>>111268234
>intelligent
No, obvious.
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>>111268202
>Not even Japan vidya is that affordable, much less anime BDs or DVDs.
That's my point.
That is why the piracy rate is so high.
The only people buying anime are the hardcore fans who'd buy it at practically any price.
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>>111267704
Fuck I need to get back to achieving satori.
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>>111268114
They read manga and watch some animu. Lots of manga, BTW.
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I'd sure love to buy some legal VN/Eroge online. The translated ones are expensive as fuck to import from US. If there only was a store like steam that stocked some hardcore japanese porngames I'd throw my money at it. Such a shame they can't sell porn on Steam due to feminist getting their rectums ravaged if they sell such patriarchal material and the jews on Steam will lose their precious gamer gurl shekels.
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>>111268130
>However there are plenty of cases where fans would pay money but choose not to

so the problem is not the piracy itself, but a lack of trust towards the fans
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>>111267704
i lold
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>tfw stuck with downloading via xdcc
>tfw three quarters of /a/ doesn't even know what IRC is
>tfw most of the retards will leave /a/
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>>111268244
No, u, retard. Music industry was in a deep shit, until SJobs made em sell songs for 0,99c. Go and read some internet, newfag.
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>>111268268
they'll cook my meat alright
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>>111268413
This is only a good thing
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>>111263691
Bigger than all of Hollywood that's for sure
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>>111268176
i watch them try and laugh.
i will never pay that much for few episodes of cartoon.
i much rather pirate, get caught, and pay 80cents per episode, 10 cents per page plus the fine that is 20€.
currently the price would be around 850€ without the fine.
now count how much i would have to pay if i went the legal way
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>create some sort of anime netfilx
>find out who fansubbers are
>ask them to sub your show
>give them a small percentage of whatever the show makes based on views
>no work for the nipponese other than maintaining the site and add new shit

As much as I would like for this to happen, it never will
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>>111268413
What makes you think you're the specuak snowflake who knows about XDCC? FYI not everything is available on IRC so you might want to rethink that post.
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>>111268413
I may have been to lazy to figure it out so far, but it won't be hard if I'm forced into it. Will probably be better in the end.
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>>111268413
>2014
>XDCC & IRC
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If the Jews had it their way they also try to ban dvr's

And yes yes they tried
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>>111268448
Holy fuck, are you seriously comparing the music industry, something with mass appeal, to late night animu with a sales base of a few thousand otaku? You slash prices, you won't get an increase in sales. They've done it before, it doesn't fucking work.

You understand nothing about business. Kill yourself.
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>>111268532
"Special", even. I hate typing on a cellphone.
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>>111262910

Yeah good luck from stopping China. Pfth. They don't have any piracy laws and shit. We fine.
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>>111268532
>not everything is available on IRC

Yeah, only the vast majority
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>>111268527
Needs an option for downloading.
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>>111268527
>create some sort of anime netfilx
>find out who fansubbers are
>ask them to sub your show
So basically, Crunchyroll?
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>>111268532
>FYI not everything is available on IRC so you might want to rethink that post.
It's like you don't even know how fansubbing works
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>>111268527
Paying percentages for work like translation is stupid. You don't have to be a business major to understand that. Just a one time commision thing per episode is enough.
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>>111268365
Pretty much. Just look at my options as an American
- Buy extremely overpriced BDs with no subs shipped from Japan
- Pay for low quality Crunchyroll stream (assuming Crunchyroll was able to get it) and not even own the actual content
- Pay for an overpriced American shitty dub that will have a shitty sub If I'm lucky and will be released at least a year after the show ends and I've seen all the spoilers

Torrenting a fansub through Nyaa is so much better than all of these options I'd pick it even if I had to pay a subscription fee
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>>111268521
>It's less expensive to just do it the illegal way and get caught than to do it legitimately
Shit I never thought of this, thanks for the insight, anon
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>>111268623
That's the point.
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>>111268642
Well, more money would go to the producers, studios, ect. compared to CR.

Also, you would end up with potentially better subs.
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>>111268585
I just remind you of one simple fact: the cheaper product is, the more customers buy it, if the quqlity doesn't drop. Now stop posting retarded things.
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>>111268527
>sharing profits
>sharing profits with others
>sharing profits with other countries

you don't understand why this whole deal is about
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>>111268661
Fansubbed anime aren't the only things we torrent, you know.
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Whatever.
i need suggestions for good anime movies.
i don't like love stories
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>>111268792
Besides manga, what else is there relevant to the topic?
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What's the point of rubbing this same exact fearmongering thread in our faces for the past week now?
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>>111268721
He's saying that their audience for sales is based around people obsessed and dedicated enough that lowering the sales wouldn't change anything, the same people would still buy it and at the higher price.

I don't know any proof he think he has, but it's definitely a logical conclusion.
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>>111268864
Porn?
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>>111268527
How bout regular Netflix? They stuck stuff SnK and that Knights of Sidonia show up fairly early, compared to all its other offerings which are years old.

Of course, they're a season or two after the fact, and on the other hand, they have to vie with Funimation and CR.
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>>111268883
I don't think anyone is worried considering the fact that Japan's not doing a good job at making this issue seem important
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>>111268864
My dick in your mouth, definitely.
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>>111268883
How is it fearmongering? Literally nobody on this site is seriously worried
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>>111268907
Last I check, these companies aren't going after porn sites
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>>111268721
>>I just remind you of one simple fact: the cheaper product is, the more customers buy it,
Sure, except more doesn't mean better.

If you drop the price by half, and you don't get well over a 150% increase in sales, you're losing money. The anime industry is based around hardcore fans that will pay any price, the price is no issue when it comes to deciding if they want to support a show or not. When you drop the price of a blu-ray to 75%, you get a minor 10-20% bump in sales. Even ignoring the true loss in profit margins, you're still not selling as much.
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>>111263004
as much as piratebay did
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>>111268925
More like I'm surprised that the Japanese Governement "BAN ALL MANGA" stance in the past few years went to "MANGA IS COOL, PROTECT MANGA"

I'm seriously wondering where the fuck they're coming from on this one.
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TRIGGER animu got crowdfunded and then trigger saved anime.

buying obscenely overpriced animu has always primarily gone only to the studio heads.

publishers are scared their free ride is being threatened by internet, where piracy fights corporatism and crowdfunding MAY empower good artists to break free of the shackles that rob them of their intellectual property and outside of rich outliers like the Big 3's mangaka, for example, get paid an utter pittance.
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>>111268986
Then why is sad panda supposed to be in trouble?
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God, it's amazing how /a/ is so good at giving one his daily headaches.
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>>111268859
Megazone 23.
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>>111262910

>They think people will actually buy their chinesse cartoons

They will experience the same fate of our mods.
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Is this the end of free content on the internet? It seems that's where it's headed.
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>>111269096
Wani sent a DMCA? The site's not in danger or anything, because unlike Wani, these companies are actually trying to stop piracy.
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>>111269143
Don't kill the messenger, bro.
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So /a/, what hobbies are you going to take up now that anime is dead?
I'm thinking about getting into baking, damn that pretzel bread looks good.
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>>111269202
We're not there yet, and probably won't be for a good while, but hey I don't want to fuck your week, but all of us here, we'll live to see the end of the internet. It's coming.
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The outcome of such move if passed, would be the complete annihilation of smaller artists. Mostly big titles (read generic shounen crap) would survive meaning the industry would be taking a far bigger blow than what they are crying about right now.

It's not about piracy, it's about making the
>In cooperation with 15 major anime production companies
richer

don't fool yourselves
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>>111269217
It is more about the people receiving the message than killing the messenger, man.
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>>111268886
>lowering the sales wouldn't change anything
Really? But why it worked with the music and games then?
>>111269029
>more doesn't mean better
?
>The anime industry is based around hardcore fans
Or casual schoolkids, who buy random shit and millons of One Picece, and Konan?
>When you drop the price of a blu-ray to 75%, you get a minor 10-20% bump in sales.
This point seems legit. They need some online distribution and a worldwide market to do this.
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>>111269397
Music and games are mainstream.
Late night anime isn't.

It's that simple.
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>>111269397
music and games don't rely on basement losers still living with their mom to sell

anime does
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>>111269397
>>Or casual schoolkids, who buy random shit and millons of One Picece, and Konan?
Kids aren't fucking buying blu-rays. There are a few teens who watch late night stuff, but they aren't paying for it, and they wouldn't be paying for it if it was a little cheaper.
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>>111269251
Nice mushrooms, faggot.
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>>111269619
cannot unsee
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Jesus christ, what's been up with all this crazy shit lately?

I mean, this isn't going to amount to anything for various reasons, but all this shit happening recently makes me disheartened. Anime sales are higher than ever as of late. You'd think they'd only bother with this crap if sales were low to boogeyman someone. Going with the status quo and being happy with their prospering (financially) industry seems a lot easier, even than making a badly designed website like they did.

>>111269468
>Late night anime isn't.

Not even just late night, anything that isn't super popular like the typical kids shows, Gundam, or high profile jump titles aren't of any interest to the Japanese mainstream.
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>>111267704
>Stop pirating our anime!
>When you give us the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands.

I'm ready for shit to go nuclear.
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>>111269521
>music and games don't rely on basement losers still living with their mom to sell
Oh, you!

>>111269584
>late night stuff
Why are you focusing on it? If it's cheap, they can buy, how can you be so sure?
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>>111267750
To be fair, living in the U.S., tough crime laws are kind of a deterrent. They can also encourage more tech-savvy people to develop things like proxys or VPN's however, and so instead of stopping piracy, it could make it harder to catch.
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Finally im will be free from this delusional, i hope they do it fast so i can be free from /a/
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>>111269772
>>Why are you focusing on it? If it's cheap, they can buy, how can you be so sure?
Because failing shows have slashed prices before. It makes no difference.
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>>111269758
>When you give us the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands.
Nice idea to pay them for free animu and mango.

*Russian OP*
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>>111269880
You can go now.
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>>111268413
speaking of IRC, i thought they have "infinite trial"? Seems like they're charging shekels after 30 days. I just used IRC
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The biggest flaw with their logic is that they think that by taking down these streaming/torrent sites people will buy more shit. Even if it's just a hundred more sales, it's more than 0. In their mind this makes Crunchyroll (not including torrent sites like nyaa of course) the only way to watch anime. The real issue here is that Crunchyroll does not sub every new show, and they also don't sub shows that have already aired. Some sales for new stuff will increase, but the shows that aren't subbed will get swept under the rug completely, and will end up selling even less because the interest is no longer there. Shows that sold a measly 500 blu rays and flopped hard before will really suffer now. Shows like SAO on the other hand probably won't be affected at all. In the end big, ignorant businessmen win, and the industry suffers for its idiocy.
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>>111268886

I don't really delve deep enough into sales and the like to provide any definitive proof, but if you look at how Kill La Kill (yes, I know, KLK is bad / a shit / etc.) is currently selling their product, you could say that anime like it is typically only bought by those that are obsessed.

Right now, they are selling BD with 4 episodes each on it, and they have a couple of extras sold with them. I believe the distributors are selling these at $60 a set? You'd have to be insane (or a collector, who is likely equally insane) to pay for each of these disks instead of waiting for a complete collection. The difference in price would probably be in the hundreds of dollars.

My comment isn't entirely relevant to the thread, but there is some circumstantial proof to his point, at least. (Keep in mind, I don't buy a lot of BDs or merch, so I don't know if that is what typically keeps the industry afloat or not.)
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>>111270185
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>111270310
Probably mirc
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>>111268883
>browsed facebook to check for important announcement in the university.
>accidentally seen a fanpage that posting the same news about this whole anime and manga thing
>some people are worrying about fakku going down
>mfw
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>>111270185
>/a/ - IRC newfags
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>>111268413
learned how to use it once, shit was pretty easy.
Then I realized that I didn't even need xdcc since I had everything I needed on torrents.
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>>111270371
Ah. If so, >>111270185, you might want to try another client (though I think you should be able to use mirc for free). HexChat is what I use, and it works nice on Windows.
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>>111270591
XDCC is better than torrents though
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>>111263334
>>111263515
>>111265587

>Don't worry guys, Daiz will safe us!
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>>111270799
Well, that's nice.
Wanna give me the reasons?
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>>111270799

Is XDCC similiar to Filetopia? I have never heard of the former, but from what I can gather in the thread, they seem at least vaguely similar.
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>>111270799
Because you need some shitty client you must tune and use some retarded commands and other weird stuff?
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>>111262910
>250 titles
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>>111271111
>shitty client
What is utorrent?
>retarded commands
What is RSS?
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>>111270986
>>111271111
Because you have a single bot you can send a message to without being dependent on other peers

>>111271082
Not really
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>>111271270
The only good torrent client is µtorrent 2.2.1.
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>>111271270
>What is utorrent?
1 click download.
>What is RSS?
A headache.
>>111271378
>you can send a message to without being dependent on other peers
Maybe for some extremely rare content.
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>>111270197
I'm not paying for shit unless I get something physical.

Fuck "subscriptions" I live in Canada with shitty capped internet, so I'd be able to stream maybe 1 series a month.

I'd support the fuck out of the industry if they would release every anime with English subs and didn't charge an arm and a dick for a single series.

Even a 12 episode series will run around $300-400 before shipping. If you can get the boxset it's a bit cheaper, sort of.

TTGL Box was still like $450
Jojo was nearly $1000 for the LE's and shipping.
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>>111271924
Their prices are bullshit, we know. I personally stick to $2/episode unless I really like the series.
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>>111262910

>1st of August
>same day as some 3dpd movie distributors want to pressure the isps in my country to block various streaming sites and pirate bay

I'm too paranoid for this.
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>>111263841

They do, but Hakuoki is licensed and torrents for it are still there.
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>>111265823
Because Japan hates people watching their anime illegally, even if they can't watch it otherwise. Yeah, that includes you.
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>>111272339
>my country
Russia?
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Please stop explaining to newfags how to get animu.

This ongoing situation and what happened with Sadpanda should serve as a reminder to us all that the "secret club" mentality always was and always will be a good thing. If some idiot doesn't know how to XDCC and thinks torrents are better, just let him think that. You still know XDCC works great and you'll still have the option to use it in the unlikely event that BakaBT/nyaa/animebytes gets shut down. Tell them to lurk more.
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>>111272597

No, Austria

They want them banned because of a total of 3 movies no one even cares about.
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>>111266560

fuckfuckfuckfuck
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>>111267120

Don't forget Ken Akamtsu
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Some japanese, like Miyazaki, think anime is shameful and should not be made available to gaijin because it damages Japan's reputation.

Miyazaki laments how when people think of Japan they think of rape cartoons made for otaku, who are the stinking anus of nippon.

really they should learn that first you have to set up a reliable way of flooding your entertainment abroad and THEN snap the trap shut.
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>>111272632
It's not like telling /a/ will do anything, they still see IRC as shitpost heaven
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>>111272687
Just like in Russia, where local movie industry is agonising and lobbying bans of all torrent sites because they want to sell their content.
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>>111272632
Partially agreeing with you on the sekrit klub issue, but in the (very) unlikely event that those sites go down, clones of them will be up within a day. Bittorrent won't die unless the internet dies.
So there is no need to worry, the newfags will never, ever bother you ever again.
:^)
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In Japan the people know which anime to buy and support because they watch it on TV. In America if they somehow make it impossible to find torrents why would they expect us to buy their shit? They are targeting streaming and downloading site when that's the only way for us to watch anime without buying it. I don't understand their logic, but it must make sense.
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>Japan tries to arrest some Chinese
>China Govt takes this as an action of attack
>China sinks Japan
>anime altogether is dead
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>>111266444
>War Is A Hell
>A Hell
I hope this bitch gets sniped right through the gut.
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>>111273053
You just don't wanna see the reality, are you? Scanlation is pretty much fucked up, rippers are next.
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>>111273107
In that case we'll just watch ChineseCartoons instead.
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yeah man thats a really great idea Japan. Lets cut out the entire market outside of this tiny ass little island's pretend market. You know the potential foreign market who watch tv broadcasts who might buy stuff. Fuck those other people who try to buy expensive ass toys from those toy companies. Fuck the people who pay outlandish prices for stupid ass BD.

Lets just cut them all out. really great idea!
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>>111273393
Do they know how much of a fucking chore it is to try and stream Tokyo MX live?
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I'll always find a way to get my anime free. The internet is wonderful like that. It's too big to try and control it. China doesn't give a shit about Japan complaining their animu is getting pirated.
It might just be a bit harder to stream some anime now, but heck, I only stream when I watch anime on my phone.. Which is like... A couple of days per year.
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This is one of the few instances where I appreciate living in a 3rd world dump of human trash. The government cant do shit even if they wanted to.
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>>111268721
What part of "niche market" do you not understand?
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>>111273393
But CR works pretty well if you're in the US
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>>111274767
the h
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>>111274811
TOP SCORE
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>>111272878
>implying most normies don't think of the prank shows, panty vending machines and technology when they hear Japan.
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There's no need for websites in this actually. There's no way to stomp it out completely without personally attacking the people translating content and hoping nobody will take their place.
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>>111272878
When I talk or think about Japan, I remember PEARL HARBOR
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>>111274851
Nah, normalfags think of samurai.
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>>111274851
I hear they usually think the train gropers
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Is the the madokami FTP dead? Why don't I see threads anymore?
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>>111274910
"The only way to defeat piracy, is become piracy itself."
- Twobeard, the pirate.
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>>111274676
>3rd world dumpster

My nigga. Government here agreed on control piracy just to shut murrica up. They don't actually do anything to stop it because they know some people actually live from selling pirated dvds here.
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>>111274927
I meant for modern Japan.
>>111274930
Ah yeah you're right, also the people who put cameras on their shoes.

The point is, most normies don't see anime as anything different than the Japanese equivalent of cartoon network shows.
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>>111268448

Music has millions of consumers. Anime has a few ten thousand at most.
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>>111274921
Pearl Harbor was an amazing keikaku, Yamamoto was a goddamn genius, but he was out of luck.
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>>111274968
Dead?
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Save us, Daiz!
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>>111275011
>The point is, most normies don't see anime as anything different than the Japanese equivalent of cartoon network shows.
Well... you're a somewhat right. But only if cartoon network shows nowadays have outrageous amounts of fanservice, that it's just basically porn for kids.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhn3YKqMH3M
This video is way too much hilarious and I don't know why.

>>111275003
BR?
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>>111275058
Pearl Harbor was a good idea, but Midway was just Glorious Nippon setting her cunt on fire.
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>>111275173
Fine, then the Japanese equivalent of South Park or Family Guy.
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>>111275118
Are anons still uploading?
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>>111262910
Why don't these morons ever realize that piracy and word of mouth is their primary and most effective form of advertisement abroad?
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>>111275211
Nippon should've surrendered the moment they notice that Pearl Harbor didn't work.
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>>111274676
Yeah. Here in flipland, the government dont really mind people possessing pirated videos and such as long as you dont distribute those things publicly.
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>>111275184
It's funny because it's so earnest, yet so useless. Like a dog chasing its own tail.
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>>111275232
It's only advertisement if you can't actually hold the box of coffee on your hand while you're learning about it.
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>>111275232
What use is popularity if you can't monetize it?
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It's always funny when the nipponese government does pro-anime stuff.

>>111275270

Pretty much.
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>>111275267
> as long as you dont distribute those things publicly.
Hah, tell that to the Muslims.
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It's over, just like the last time they tried this.
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>>111275264
It did work, though. Unfortunately, that small victory went straight to their head and they suddenly thought that "uncivilized white man" can't put up a fight even when they're not sleeping.
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>>111275309
It's monetized by the overseas buyfags. If they mounted an effective anti-piracy strategy then their overseas sales would drop from a fraction of pirates to a smaller fraction.

The nips themselves only pirate porn.
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>>111275184
Feels lke they say "Farewell".
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>>111262910
At least post this shit again, so people can get a laugh.

http://manga-anime-here.com/
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>>111275184

Colombia
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>>111275397
>It did work, though
That's why they managed to take out such a large number of American aircraft carriers, right?
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>>111274968
>Why don't I see threads anymore?
Because there's nothing new to talk about. You don't need a thread just to contribute it.
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>>111274968
>>111275215
Someone made an iRC for it, I think.
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>>111275559
They were stupid and though battleships were more valuable. Also couldn't even destroy the fucking docks and fuel tanks.
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>>111275559
Battleship, destroyers, corvettes and a lot of American soiled pants. I'd say that's a victory any day.
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>>111275267
I remember there was this talk about a gov't official leaving office to buy pirated movies.

>>111275338
Yeah, mudslimes are the number one vendors of pirated content. Movies, anime, music you name it. But better copies of anime is usually found at better locations than your regular back alley.

I can remember buying the whole Mai-HiMe and Mai Otome from Comic Alley in Mega Mall. Shits in neat DVD with cover included. I only paid Php 90 per disk.

Now if anime is legally just as available like that, I wouldn't mind buying the legal. But of course it isn't and the Philippines is the piracy capital of Asia so I got no choice.
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>>111275623
Ok but the requests seem the same as before, as if none is uploading.
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>>111275677
Sure, but they woke the dragon and the dragon still had it's teeth.
>>111275644
No, there wasn't a single aircraft carrier in port. Yamamoto wasn't lucky enough.
There was little reason to go after the docks or fuel tanks, remember the goal was to destroy the
fleet, not the maintenance base.
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>>111275818
Agree, but just so you know, if that DVD was original, the process would be the same, but you'd have to dish out at least 800, I estimate. Unfortunately, to me, that does break the camel's back. And his joints. And his neck.
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>>111275909
>Sure, but they woke the dragon and the dragon still had it's teeth.
You get no argument from me. We all know what happened after.
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>Stopping piracy with force/oppression
Haven't the japs learned anything at all?

Just look at fucking Steam. PC was a clusterfuck of piracy and Valve fixed mostly, sure there still piracy but lots of people now buy games. That's due to competitive pricing, good service and direct support to the companies.

Trying to block piracy only brings more piracy.
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>>111276365

The only problem with animu and mango are the licenses and shit. If there could be something like Steam for it without that BS it would be great. I try to watch from CR but more often than not they're "not avaible in my area".

dpanspe which
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Anime and manga doesn't have enough official translations to get the same amount of diversity it has in Japan, which is why most of us rely on fan translations. They would need to do more translations if they wanted more people outside of Japan to willingly buy their works, and most translated works don't even support anything other than the translators anyways. If they want to get an equal profit from overseas, then anime and manga would become much more expensive than in Japan do to the added costs of translations and such.

Probably the best thing for Japan to do is to just get more of the more profitable series overseas and forget the rest, shows like maybe Vanguard or Precure which generate most of their profits through collectables and merchandises and also target mostly kids but has potential with adults as well. Small stuff that comes and goes every season or so would just be unnecessarily expensive and too risky to take overseas.
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>>111273073
Jap arguments don't make sense. They're all fueled by emotion and appeal to authority.
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>>111277095
That does describe the entirety of Japanese culture pretty well. I think you're right.
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>>111277095
sounds just like my anime
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>>111277095
ah, that logic isn't unique to Japan. See: Hollywood and the music industry doing the same shit.
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>>111277516
Do they? I haven't given a rat's ass about them in such a long time that I'll have to take your word for it.
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“We're invulnerable pirates, har har har!”
“No one will ever money for anime!”
Same circlejerking as ever.

You are always talking about sentient people making decisions, that's a very common mistake. Most consumers are not like that. Industry's aim is people who type "anime name download" into Google and never go past first page. They learned where to click and can't even explain the difference between streams and torrents. “Technology? Detectability? Censorship resistance? Nah, the fuck if I'd known”. Any copyright campaign puts technical means after brainwashing those people and guiding them to official services. Just making them watch ads on a “free” site creases some revenue, and many can give 5 or 10 bucks for “premium” features after proper handling. Why do you think there is so many shitty anime and manga sites for dummies? Because there *is* a demand — and a way to make money. Owners naturally think it should be their money.

I rarely see Chinese peers on Nyaatorrents' torrents. Because of political censorship and language barrier, Chinese are using Chinese services and Chinese software that don't care about copyright. In case you don't know, Popcorn Time is not an original idea at all. There is plenty of one-click clients for dumb users on developing markets, mostly bundled with adware and viruses. They are very effective, and that's why MAFIAA will never allow such thing in the West. Not because of countless users who use torrents *now*, but because of *possible* number of infected users from general public who can switch from iTunes, etc.

Anyway, there is *a lot* of Japanese flags in my torrent client. And Japanese have shops, legal streaming, etc. and are expected to spend their yens. I think well-known trackers should be alert more than shitty streaming sites.
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>>111277994
Number of conscious users (us) who understand what they are paying for is much smaller. And, honestly, a chance to watch 2-4 movies a year on festivals or in selected theaters worths supporting struggling local publishers. It is better than nothing at all.

>>111275184
The main problem, of course, is that I don't want to have anything in common with people shown in the video.
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>>111277994
This!
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Why don't more anime studios just post their shows on niconico like some already do?
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>>111262910
anime will always be pirated one way or another

also there is a subscription anime site, crunchyroll
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>>111278269
>crunchyroll
Ow quality TV shit.
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>/a/ panicking over something that won't affect us at all
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>>111277994
Arr, I don't sees how that thar makes we pirates nay invulnerable!
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>>111278269
Fuck off CR faggot
Take it back to MAL

>>111278348
Yeah
This is streaming sites
Who gives a fuck, no one here streams. At least no one who isn't cancer.
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>>111278348
>implying panic
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>>111278322
Would you rather buy BD-quality episodes as they come out and then have to pay for them again to get the fixed/uncensored version?
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>>111278348
>2014
>NOT scaremongering
Go to bed, Tommy
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>>111278348
/a/ as usual.
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>580 foreign pirate sites
Shit, that's a lot. But I doubt the smart ones won't respond to them because they don't have any obligation to. The shitty ones all hosted in the US will though, which will kind of impact how those plebs from your high school will watch anime here in the US. Crunchyroll's gonna be getting a lot more subscriptions.
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>>111278419
Not when I can get them for free and under 10 minutes from a torrent with 1000 seeds
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I'll keep doing what I want cuz a pirate is free.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8ju_10NkGY
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>>111278409
>>111278398
>>111278429
>>111278420
It's fun in the start, but there have been constant threads about it over and over.
Nyaa won't get affected, neither raws, neither Bakabt, neither animebytes.
>>111273217
>scanlation is pretty much fucked up
It isn't though, yeah it was affected, but it isn't near being fucked up.
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>>111262910
Reposting deserves more reposting
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>>111278495
MALE ARCHERY!
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>>111278524
What the fuck do you expect us to do? Discuss anime or manga instead? Fuck off, faggot.
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>>111268244
>implying that the Marvel vs. DC price raising war of the seventies didn't directly kill anthologies and indirectly kill the comic industry in the west
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>>111278233

is not fucking rebbit.
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>>111265463
No sadpanda is hosted in the fucking Netherlands.

>>111266063
Nyaa is hosted in the Netherlands, the domain is Swedish though.
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>>111262910

>fans have episodes ripped, translated, and uploaded in 720p within hours of an episode airing

Meanwhile Japan wonders why there's such a huge piracy problem.
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>>111278233
>!
The fuck
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>>111278419
I'd rather torrent THORA rips. If I'm cornered in the internets without any free content, I'd think about some service like CR, but with HQ anime of all times.
>>
You wake up and turn on the TV on August 1, and see Daiz being dragged out of his house by the cops for piracy on international television.

What do you do next?
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>>111278779
Shame my head.
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>>111278470
> Crunchyroll's gonna be getting a lot more subscriptions.
This is a continuation of Daiz's master plan to kill fansubbing.
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Ha! What Japan doesn't know is that all these years of watching aneemays, I've secretly the aneemay language, and even if they shut down all of the fansubs, I will just scour the net for the raws and be on my way!
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>>111278236

This is a great solution. So much could be avoided if they just streamed with nicovideo.
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>>111278733
If only we had the same thing for manga.
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>>111278779
I sell the TV that magically appeared in my house.
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>>111278688
>>111278739
What?
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>>111278779
Laugh, won't happen, because like the average anon, he must be behind 8 proxies.
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>>111278867
Unlike anime, manga doesn't automatically come in a digitized format, and for every existing anime, there's a lot more manga.

Point is, don't expect it to happen any time soon.
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>>111265587
Around Finns the ice is thin
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>>111278928
>not being in a prime number of proxies
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>>111278779
Fuck my imouto, then jump in the mecha and destroy this counrty to build my own.
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Stop making these fucking threads you fear mongers, this will not affect 90% of /a/.

Streamfags might suffer but nobody else.
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>>111268864
>being this new
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>>111279064
>nofunallowed.jpg
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>>111279064
Stop what? It's yesterday's news, faggot.
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>>111270185
Sure is summer in here.
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XDCC and passing magnet links over IRC.

Problem fucking solved, stop panicking.
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>>111279238

I haven't had an IRC client in years and I have no idea how to download with XDCC. Should I panic?
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>>111279238
>implying, they have torrents for tons of manga
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>>111279300
>XD
Get out.
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>>111279300
It takes about 30 seconds to learn, don't flip your shit.
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>>111271378
>Because you have a single bot
And then if the single bot and the fansub team disappears, you can't download the file anymore. Unlike torrents where you can still download the file even if the fansub team is dead.

XDCC is pretty conveniant though for public networks and shit.
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>>111278779
1st of August.
Strategic Mangatraders archive is finally made available.
D--z is giving a press conference in Moscow airport.
Putin laughs.
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>>111262910
>In cooperation with 15 major anime production
don't tell me Yamakan's studio is in too.
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>>111279238
But this is the future.
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>>111279064
You seriously think that they will go after stream sites when Nyaa and torrents exist? This is addressed to everyone in the thread too. They won't even be able to get rid of streaming sites like AnimeFreak because the content isn't even hosted on the site. When I used them in the past, all the videos were just embedded from Dailymotion and Megavideo. Unlike streaming sites, fansubbers actually distribute the material by themselves. I don't see any mention of them going after streaming sites to begin with.

The way I see it, fansubbing taking a small to moderate hit is possible.
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>>111262910
>anime are for worthless otaku
>anime is an important cultural export
Sasuga Japan, you bunch of disembodied tits.
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>>111279300
Don't worry, what you need is just telnet/netcat and another one for file transfer connection. The rest is just text.
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>>111262910
Best girl.
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>>111275634
On Rizon ? What's the chan ?
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>>111279537
They can't affect nyaa though.
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What the fuck is a manga-anime guardian? Some sort or new chinese cartoon series?
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>>111279650
Yes, where Shinzo Abe-chan is the prime minister and she's beating up bad foreign pirates from stealing Nippon's glorious culture and debasing it with their filthy paws.
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Lmao Japan trying to exert foreign pressure on anyone, let alone China. This is going to be funny.
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>>111278928
Why would he use a proxy if his face and his real name are well-known ?
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>>111279647
Fansubbers like Underwater use Nyaa as their site.
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>>111279792
This is more like Japan complying to pressure (US) because they want to get into that TPP or whatever partnership they've got going.
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>>111279437
>Moscow
We have som high quality shit, m8. No download ratings, BTW.
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Or noes, they might close a site or two!

Replaced by a dozen or two new sites within the same fucking week.

What kind of fucking retard thinks any of this will actually have any real impact?
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>>111263004
Yep and in its place will arise mangawolf, mangabadger, mangadog, mangacow manga....
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>>111267465
>Do you know what the revenue difference is between 0 people buying something and 10000000000000 people pirating something?

I have around 42TB of total storage right now. Around 14TB is devoted solely to anime currently, and that is not even taking into account what I watched already and deleted.

If it weren't for free animu, though, I would have outgrown the hobby by now since there are NO FUCKING ALTERNATIVES that aren't streaming with piss poor quality of selling my kidney to buy bluerays.

However, I also spend around 10k yen monthly on figmas and stupid shit like that. Had I outgrown the hobby, I wouldn't be buying the merchandise either.
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>>111279965
mangadaiz
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>>111279885
It's like you don't understand, they really can't affect nyaa. In the first place, they are focusing on CHINESE pirates, really few of them, if any, pirate it from nyaa.
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What if instead of the website operators they go after the fansubbers? We all know how spineless fansubbers are, they would fold in a minute if threatened with any sort of legal action.
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>>111280001
>killing manga
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>>111280001
Japan already assassinated Daiz on his trip.
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We Americans should demand free anime as reparations for WW2.
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Nothing will happen. Absolutely nothing. Nips are known for being completely out of touch with reality and can't enforce shit outside of their borders.
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>>111279909

I love how my country makes it look like it's complying with murrica over copyright and shit but they're really doing nothing.
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>>111280080
>Stop translating anime, without violating any laws
Seems legit, cause subbers and scanners are dumb as fuck.
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>>111280001
>We are announcing a new format for scanlations. We discovered RAW format allows you to see the black tint slightly better in optimum light and viewing conditions, so we'll be releasing them like that from now on.
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>>111280180
What if they gonna ask for hollywood movies as a compensation for some little bombing?
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>>111279993
I think this should be what our Christian lobby groups should be fighting; not marijuana or lgbt. That is depressing as fuck.
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>>111280209
You're right but nips are in partnership with the US for this operation. Things can be different.
(Not talking about nyaa but in general)
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>>111280284
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>>111280365

This brings me back to the clusterfuck that was the takedown of megaupload. Man, that was fun.
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>>111280330
I don't know why the fuck they'd want that steaming heap of shit, but they can have it.
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The main reason I watch anime is it's free
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>>111280452
yeah, and about a week later, Mega came up. Shit was so cash.
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>>111280330
Winners don't pay reparations.

Plus they're a vassel state of my nation.

I have no obligation to give them money for entertainment since they're nation is the bitch of mine.
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>>111276032
Exactly.
Japan could've fucked shit up in the southern pacific, had it worked.
And it didn't.
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>>111280365
>in partnership with the US for this operation.

Look at movies. Look at TV series. They are a lot more high profile and the USA have an actual interest in stopping those due to heavy lobbying.

Now search "insert your favorite movie here" +torrent on google and see what happens.

Why would it be any different with anime? If anything, less effort will be made to stop this.
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>>111280452

Remember how it stopped all piracy forever?
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>>111280505
>not supporting the anime you liked after watching it for free.
Fucking poorfag, you're the reason why they doing this.
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>>111280518
And about four years later, shit is still missing. Shit is not so cash.
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>>111280284
If there were broadly accepted standards for image size and format, typesetting, and archive containers (use .cb* you nerds) I would literally jump up and down and do fistpumps in excitement.
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>>111280532
Implying they paid for your techs, US.
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>>111280601
But it didn't stop piracy.
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Remember - Japan is the nation that had porn censorship enforced by a foreign nation as a joke, but thought it was serious and kept it to this day. Stop worrying.
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>>111280565
My favorite thing is when you're trying to find an older and less popular JAV and you finally track it down on Akiba-Online or wherever and it's only ever been uploaded once and it was split into twelve parts and posted to Megaupload and nowhere else.

I love that the most.
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>>111280539
No no, don't get me wrong. I still stand that the single operation did work. But it's not like the entire war hinged on fucking Pearl Harbor. The Imperial Navy performed pretty shit outside this one victory. You can call it beginner's luck, if you want.
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>>111280518
Fuck you. You have no idea how much shit went down when MU died that's still not available anywhere.
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What about a DRM-free, non-geoblocked legal alternative with proper translation and good typesetting ?

Is that so hard ? Damn I would pay tons of shekels for this.
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>>111280602
Well, having a standard for scanlation would be great, I concur. I never got why people don't use .cbz either like the comic book scangroups do.

Buty don't let Daiz make the standard! He would somehow break compatibility with tablets, cellphones and make it run only on overclocked i5s. Maybe he would convert all the pages into a movie-slideshow encoded in hi10p.
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>>111280720
And I couldn't give half a damn.
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>>111280684

Why are you watching old unpopular JAVs anon kun?
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>>111280684
That's what you get for watching JAVs
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>>111280749

I would actually pay for crunchyroll if:

1- The translation wasn't so hit and miss and the typesetting atrocious

2- The quality wasn't comparable to jewtube

3- Fast releases

4- Fair monthly prices

5- Ability to download the videos instead of streaming like a moron

The day they do this, I will subscribe.
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>>111280708
>You can call it beginner's luck
If Japan could win some battles, then US could call for the USSR, and you know, we could beat the crap out of em together.
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>>111280684
>he likes Missigno vagina!
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>>111280882
>4- Fair monthly prices
I think this moots all other points, because I have the feeling that for you, fair means free
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>>111280789
He supports the PNG format.
https://gist.github.com/Daiz-/bb8424cfedd0f05b7386
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>>111280819
I have a specific fetish that is usually only found in conjunction with others that I find unappealing. It's gotten to the point where I can only make my penis work for really pure vanilla h-manga, or this one niche of 3D porn. Sometimes you don't want to masturbate to manga, and that's when this situation comes up.
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good maybe finally all this pedophile shit will go away
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>>111280899
Actually, if America hadn't dropped the bomb as soon as it did, the USSR was already raring and ready to go over the Japanese mainland like... an alcoholic russian toppling over a crate of vodka.

If that had happened, most of your anime right now would have Russian references, if not actually be in Russian.
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>>111280950

$12 on monthly subscriptions, with further reductions for 3, 6 and 12 month blocks. If Netflix can do it, so can they.
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>>111280789
No, he'd just demand ultra-hq scans and releases meaning that 95% of the viewing public would have to downscale the images to fit their screens, thereby inducing hideous moire patterns in the screentones.
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>>111281094
I'd pay $2-300 a year, but only if they can deliver video that looks at least as good as what we're watching right now and a choice between autism and localized subs.
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As long as nyaa, baka bt and batoto stay up then I couldn't give a single fuck.
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>>111280882
>3
>4
It's fast and 5 bucks for timely releases is ok. The real problems are the other factors. Only thing it has going for it right now would be the fast translation and variety of shows per season and those are not worth your money when remux and sub edits are mandatory for wanting quality.
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>my isp doesn't care
>my country"s government doesn't care
>the countries where main torrent tracker servers are"s governments don't care
>nips have no way of actually enforcing anything dealing with this internationally
>whatever happens, we'll always have dcc

how much of this is true?
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>>111281094
You probably think that local licenses are priced the same as international ones. (The TPP might make this happen, though, so you should be supporting this)
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>>111281044
Actually, we were pretty much fucked up after beating Hitler. The war with Japan could be possible only with the help of the US.

BTW, Russians never touched other countries cultures, like France and Germany, that we won in some wars and pretty much invaded. Now Japan is under the US contol, but you see, that anime is still asian.
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>>111279929
LOL, NO.
The only good thing about Rutracker anime torrents is speed. Metadata organization is awful.
— Everyone remux everything from any foreign/local release. You are very lucky if partial source is mentioned somewhere in the description.
— No one of those fuckers uses AniDB. It would be useless anyway as torrents are constantly updated, rehashed, and updated by “better” versions according to the rules, and rules don't favor consistent releases in any way.
— Raws are disallowed, and most files are injected with horrible fandub (or five of them, for the glory of Satan). That also rules out bonuses.
— Years of drama and tension between mods, groups, fandubbers and their supporters I don't even want to think about.

Also >Cuba77
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AhmEiLy0dM
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>>111281284
If you are in a third world country then forget about this.
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>>111281284
Nobody knows yet, anon.
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>>111280518

Yeah, but as >>111280720 a lot of stuff that was only there got lost. Still, it was fun to see how everyone fucked up gov's sites and whatnot.

>>111280565
>>111280684

Good times.
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>>111281044
I doubt that the amphibious operation needed to take the Japanese islands would've been too much for the Soviets to handle, it would be some time before they could get all the necessary logistics in place for such an assault, and by then the American landing in the southern parts of Japan would already be in full swing. The most likely scenario is that had the nukes not been dropped, the war would've lasted maybe another year with the American moving slowly up and eastward suffering immense casualties. Then, if the Soviets invaded, They'd move southward from Hokkaido and Aomori. The end result would be a Japan divided North/ South, or East/West depending on fast the Soviets moved.
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So what's http://manga-anime-here.com/?
I don't want to go there and find out myself.
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>>111266396
Another thing wrong is that they claim that they lose a lot of money to piracy, when their actual BDs cost a small fortune to buy anyway. Plus, it's partially their fault due to those ridiculous prices. Sure, otaku will be willing to pay whatever price, but what about the masses? Heck, most people outside of Japan? Even within Japan, the late-night anime industry is already niche (I know, I've been to Japan, and outside of Akihabara you barely see anything anime-related other than mainstream fare outside of specialized anime stores), but it's like the industry is doing their best to only make it more niche.

The sad thing is that, the industry in general claims that they lose a lot of money due to piracy, but still earn so much money, the amount of money that other industries can only dream about.

>>111267750
>This

>>111268448
Then why don't they want to actually increase their fanbase?
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>>111278524

Well, the problem with scanlations now is that too much stuff is consolidated.

mangaupdates is the only scanlations listing site left. batoto and the mangafox/mangacow/mangapanda (run by the same people) are the only major reader sites, and we've now shifted to reader sites/reader technology as the major force in the scanlation world. If those are targeted, we're in trouble.

animesuki user-base migrated to tokyotosho, lurk irc user-base migrated to reader websites, and hongfire user-base migrated to anime-sharing.

Reader sites have no current alternative. Unless the community commits to irc again, I think we'll be going back digging around for ddls ( which will be meager since even collecting, storing, and sharing scans of manga is expensive and time consuming)
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>>111281316
Lol yes, cause you see, they have some HQ rips, some even better than Bakabt. And you can always get English subs from subs.com.ru. Youse-raws with seeds, ANE and shit, this site is good. Stop whining about descriptions and other stuff, cause nobody cares, look at nyaa.
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Reminder that you can have Daiz banished from /a/.

https://www.change.org/petitions/taneli-daiz-vatanen-contract-between-the-demon-known-as-daiz-and-a-be-severed-daiz-banished-also-jacob-needs-to-not-kill-the-panda

The chances of it working are nonexistent, but he's still a dick.
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>>111281286
Supporting what, the anime-a-geddon?

No, thanks. I have no intention of being a hostage to the nips. "Oh, no, Kodomo no Jikan is too avant garde for dem baka gaijins! Lets give them more Pretty Cure instead."

Fuck this shit. Nothing good can ever come from Japan's business decisions.
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>>111281524
That is true, still, I don't use Batoto because it went to shit thanks to those assfuckers admin and mods.
I use domdom and kissmanga.
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>>111281306
>Russians never touched other countries cultures
There's probably a few Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Finns, Poles, Czechs, and others that would disagree.
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>>111281597
>tfw the majority of my favorite anime absolutely tanked in Japan
I don't trust those fuckers to decide what's worthy of distribution
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>>111281615
You forgot Ukrainians, Georgians, Tartars etcetc
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>>111281574
>Annie chang
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>>111281615
>Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians
They were almost independent. Nobody gave a damn and everything was fine.
>Finns, Poles, Czechs, and others
Never happened.
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The good news is that we'll be reading books and going to the gym very soon.

Don't forget to wear sunscreen when you're outside (SPF 50. You're kinda pasty).
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>>111281730
I was trying to think of a name that would look real enough to make it without the threat of site admins thinking it's a troll account. So I twisted anon and chan.
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>>111268585
Animu only sells to a few thousand otaku BECAUSE OF THE HORRIFYING PRICES!

Besides, they can sell a lot of merchandise to cover production costs, to the point that many shows are made solely as merch sellers.
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>>111281727
Ukrainians (and Belorussians) are basically Russia Light, but yes, You could really go on for quite some time listing the cultures and peoples that Russians attempted to alter or outright destroy.
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>>111280708
Pearl Harbor was the exact opposite of beginner's luck.

They had the worst possible outcome in every single way; they missed a shitton of bombs due to the wrong signal given(They had two signals revolving around movement, one if they were spotted and one if they weren't), the US carriers were out, they sunk the ships in a harbor(Allowing the men to be saved/ships to be repaired), the landing docks/repair shit wasn't bombed either, they aimed mainly for battleships, ect.

The only lucky part was that the US was too cocky to anticipate the attack.
>Japan and US cannot into warnings and reasonable advice.
"Eyy lmao maybe Pearl Harbor is a little exposed you might want to geton that"
"EYY yo maybe you folks should stop investing in battleships and get some more carriers instead... also the top-level brass are honor indulged retards, don't listen to em'. Operation Ten-Go is a horrible idea, maybe you should just surrender..."

Also,I remember there was a paper on how successful Pearl Harbor was in term of accuracy and how many bombs hit. I think it was something ridiculously low like 30% due to how much of a massive clusterfuck it was.
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>>111269265
> but all of us here, we'll live to see the end of the internet. It's coming.

End of the internet for normalfags, you mean. It will end up in a point where only through either convoluted or super sekkrit ways will you be able to download shit. But outright stop? Impossible. /g/ will save us.
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>>111281858
>Ukrainians (and Belorussians) are basically Russia Light
Actually Russians are more like Ukraine light.
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>>111281795
They'd disagree.
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>>111281727
>Ukrainians
They're Russians. Kiev was the capital of Russia and we have the same culture.
>Georgians
Christian brothers. Stalin was from Georgia, they lived in Paradise in the USSR.
>Tartars
They inveded Russia and stayed here. Then we beat the crap out of them and let some stay as our people.
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>every illegal download of X is exactly equal to a loss of the full retail value of X

I thought we'd gotten past this...
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>>111269915
Holy shit this is the best doll I ever saw
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>>111281954
>They're Russians. Kiev was the capital of Russia and we have the same culture.
Ukrainian here. You're full of shit
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>>111281932
Only those, who was brainwashed.
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>>111275818
But the reason why us Flips buy those pirated DVDs is because the official ones are too expensive. They sell for like $20. Given that the average monthly income is around $230, having a large collection of the latest DVDs isn't exactly the priority in most Flips' minds.
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The jews defeated the samurai. It's over.
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>>111281960
Nope, cause there are many dumb prople, who is fooled by this kind of lies.
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>>111282002
Well then I wonder why they even bothered to get rid of their benevolent Russian protectors then.
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>>111281833

Apparently nobody likes anime except sweaty nerds and it wont have mass appeal anyway.
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>>111262910
>mainly operated by Chinese.

well the Chinese aren't going to do shit.
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>>111282000
You just trollin, m8. Kiev was the capital of our country and there were no such countri as Ukraine. We're basically one nation.
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>>111281919
>/g/ will save us.
This guy knows.
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>>111282123
/pol/ (or /history/ if we had it) would probably be a better suggestion, shame /pol/ is shit.
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I still have these links in my bookmarks:

N/S Eyes Release List - Asiansthetic Forum
http://forum.asiansthetic.com/showthread.php?t=17345
YS-Web Release List - Asiansthetic Forum
http://forum.asiansthetic.com/showthread.php?p=59299

Asiansthetic's dead and there is still no such thing as structured public list of models of biggest gravure magazines. Where is the new forum? I've waited for years, there isn't any.
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>>111282117
>and it wont have mass appeal anyway.

Bullshit. See how fucking popular Dragonball was. There are many other examples as well - DBZ is universal, but, for example, Saint Seiya was fucking huge in latin countries. Not all anime has mainstream appeal, true enough, but the same can be said of music or videogames.
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>>111282069
>they even bothered to get rid
They didn't. Russian politics disbanded USSR without asking anybody. And you know, politics is just a dirty game all about money. I am russian and I never met any Russian, who cared about Czechs or Poland. And you can see their cultures pretty much untouched.
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Well, it could be a problem if they start going after the locals who upload stuff.

Where is ZeroRaws based, for example? Are they nips?
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>>111282266
And yet Poles and Czechs constantly bitch about how poorly they were treated by both Imperial Russia and the USSR. There's also all the revolts and rebellions that happened during the Cold War in the Warsaw Pact that were against Soviet control, and the times that the Soviets came in and straight up murdered thousands of protesters in Czechoslovakia and Hungary. I'm sure many if your friends just thing all that stuff is western lies.
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>>111282431
>records nips TV
>hurr durr are they nips ?
They maybe have someone in Japan.
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>>111281979
>the best doll I ever saw
It's some kind of a series, that you can customize, tune and do this and that.
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>>111281919

>piracy getting harder

>not easier

>ever in the future
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What about AB, guys...? Are they insignificant enough to allow the nips to gloss over them?
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>>111282516
I'm not a dollfag, I have limited doll knowledge even though I am a /toy/ soldier. So, basically, you buy the custom parts and assemble it yourself? Kinda like a moe gundam?
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>>111282605
AB, nyaa and bakabt won't get affected.
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>>111282508

Cable TV, nigger. Ever heard of it?
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>>111282706

Then why the fuck are people even worried about? Hell, eve nif the animegeddon happened, groups could just upload to TPB or the ressurected demonoid instead.
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>>111282711
>japanese cable TV outside of Japan
The fuck are you talking about ?
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>>111282474
It was some military abuse to get closer to the Europe. No cultural stuff involved. BTW, in Russia only few know about this part of history, cause the info wasn't public.
>murdered thousands of protesters in Czechoslovakia and Hungary
Never heard of it. Maybe it's true. Anyway, it's not /a/ related.
>>111282668
>So, basically, you buy the custom parts and assemble it yourself? Kinda like a moe gundam?
You buy the doll and some parts. As far as I know. I saw them in some threads on one russian board.
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>>111282431
7 years ago every newfag knew Zero-Raws are reposting better stuff from what's available on Japanese filesharing networks and are not the original source.
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>>111282764
Well, I figured australians would have access to nip tv shows or some shit. T-they don't?
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>>111282760
>TPB
>demonoid
>no fucking rules
Oh dear lord, anything but this.
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>>111282760
/a/ has been doing the same with exhentai, the loliban and other shit
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>>111282815
Its a last case scenario, and I prefer that than manually searching irc bots. Maybe someone could ressurect #lurk.
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>>111282668
It's called Dollfie, I googled this http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/70339844
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>>111282810
Satellite nip TV is encrypted so I guess they don't.
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>>111282776
Stupid Russky kid came here to teach us about official view of his government on history. Please sit down and relax.
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>>111282934
Please go talk about your soviet stories on >>>/pol/ thanks.
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>>111282934
>to teach us about official view of his government on history
Nope. But I'm sure you don't know.
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>>111283021
OK, let me just find my matryoska and vodka. I gonna drink all day, so no Russian posting anymore.
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Is it really that hard to implement this well?
Why can't they just provide all anime, all manga, all hentai, all hmanga, in any format, in any resolution, in any codec, drm free, download or stream.
There has to be no region lock so it can be available world wide. I can't access a single link they provide due to my location.
Get rid of licensing shit, this seems to be a major Jewish invention to get money to people that didn't create the content and inherently creates region blocks. Therefore the majority of the money should go to the content creators.
Should pricing be subscription based or pay per anime/manga?
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>>111282934
Honestly most people don't really know either, including you.
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>>111284325
All that you propose would require cooperation with the clustrfuck that is international law. Furthermore, it would require radically changing the industry, maybe even eliminating stock-based markets. That will certainly not happen for now.
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oh fuck
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>>111284325
Knowing how money hungry the nips are it'll probably never happen. The big anime studios want to squeeze as much cash out of you as possible.
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>5.5 billion dollars

money they would never see, if i had the money to spend then i wouldn't mind but being a poorfag I can't do that. I support when i can though
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I hope CR spent a lot of money and influence greasing the wheels for this, because they will get nothing out of it.
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>>111281543
>HQ rips
BD remuxes are usually not much higher quality than a good encode with some filtering. Usually the BD's are pretty bad and full of banding, some of which can be fixed by player debanding, but not as well as higher quality algorithms.

Also, aliasing issues which can't be fixed with a simple filter. See [Meguca] for Italian BD superiority over JP BD.
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>>111282431
The raw providers for fansub groups aren't in any danger. If you use SFTP to transfer the recorded episodes, you would never get caught. It's only if you try to share them on Japanese file-sharing which is no longer secure and anonymous.
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XDCC will always be an option, get fucked you slant eyed jews.
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>>111278779
go to /a/ and look for the thread about it
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>>111288609
xdcc might go (probably not), but in the worst case scenario we'll always have torrents over i2p.
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>>111278779
Celebrate that fansubs are officially dead.
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The irony is that the western fanbase as it is wouldn't exist without pirating. The y actually gained money from this because some people got interested enough that they eventually started buying some things instead of simply downloading it.
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>>111272528
Are you a fucking newfag, or something? What am I talking about, of course you are.

Let me spell it out for you,

People
on
/a/
always
torrent
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>>111267905
anime is niche, manga is not. Most people on /a/ don't realize that they are vastly different industries with different attitudes. One of the fucking prime ministers of japan admitted to reading manga.
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