Why do people prefer style over substance?

>>111215999
Madoka > LOGH

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>>111215999
>Why do people prefer style over substance?
Where did you hear that?

style is substance.

In case you didn't know, anime is famous for style.

>>111215999
Hoshi no Umi was fucking great though

Tsuki ni Naku 3 when?

I actually prefer style over substance sometimes. Not everything needs substance. Only the mature anime for my mature self people cry about that.

>>111215999
Because a lot of anime is exactly like that, having either lots of style and no substance or lots of substance and no style. It ultimately boils down to whether or not you want to watch something like LoGH, FMA, or GitS which are all fantastic stories that aren't super inspired art wise, or something like SZS, Kaiba, Nichijou, that has nice art but not a lot substance.

>>111216997
>Kaiba
>not a lot substance

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>>111217191
Should've said misused or wasted substance. The show seriously dropped the ball in the 2nd half.

The people on /a/ like neither style nor substance bruv, you are barking up the wrong tree

>>111216997
I like FMA's story but fucking hate its guts, the author knew the idea wouldn't have worked if she didn't pander to the shonen boy fangurlz. She's fucking brilliant for making such a marketable MC like Edward.

>>111217466
I'd suck his dick.

>>111217466
What?

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oh shit is tsuki no nau out?

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I prefer both

>>111217600
sexually marketable

>>111217770

I just want to say this, Tetami Galaxy was kind of awful, it barely made a 7/10, I wanted to give it a 6.

>>111217868
>Tatami Galaxy was kind of awful, it barely made a 7/10, I wanted to give it a 6
>IGN

Any anime with substance also has style.

>>111217942

Why are you bringing up a videogame board? it was objectively awful to me.

>>111215999

Because that's all anime has got going for it.

>>111218008
>it was objectively awful to me.
Mah gawd.

>>111217868
People are going to hate me for drawing the connection but Tatami Galaxy is a lot like Madoka Magica. To the people who watched it while it was airing its at least an 8/10 or greater. To everyone who watched it after hearing the hype it made they were disappointed.

It's like how people dont like the Harry Potter books and the Star Wars movies as much as they used to because spoilers and hype float around them thickly and the fans have already overanalyzed and discussed everything about them.

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>>111217770
This.

Anime needs more things like Tatami Galaxy, Shinsekai Yori, Mine Fujiko to Iu Onna, Utena and Gankutsuou.

>>111217868
You just don't have a clue as to what a good show is. That's all.

>>111217868
What you didn't like about Tatami Galaxy and what anime you think is better.

I'm honestly curious about your opinion.

>>111216166
this
anime is at heart a visual medium

>>111218246
I watched both while they were airing. Madoka was a 6/10 on the first watch and a 6/10 on the second and third watch. Tatami Galaxy was an 10/10 on the first watch and an 11/10 on the second.

>>111218529
And?

Good story and shitty visuals = shit
Good visuals and shitty story = shit

Good story and good visuals is the best combination.

>>111218666
What if the characters are shit? What if the execution is shit?

>>111218653
The power of opinons

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>>111218666
Are you some sort of a fucking genius?

>>111216166
>>111218496
To a degree, I agree. Animation as an art for gives you a fuckton of freedom and I wish people took advantage of the tings they have to do something more than make their shows look as close to reality as possible.

>>111218746
People have different opinions. Im just sharing what I've observed in the collective opinions of others myself included but without being given preferential weight to it.

because stylish

because movies and TV are inherently a VISUAL medium.
not to say one is more important than the other, but you can forgive a weak narrative if it looks nices, it's a lot harder to do it for the opposite

>>111216166
This
Especially for any animated work

>>111218996
>but you can forgive a weak narrative if it looks nice
No you can't.
>it's a lot harder to do it for the opposite
No it isn't.

>>111219262
Not him, but it really depends on the person.
However, denying the impact of execution in a story is retarded, there is a reason the most acclaimed novels prevail due to having excellent prose.
Anime is an audiovisual medium, the way music and visuals are handled matter a whole lot, and I think that dismissing that fact is a sign that you should really try other medium.

>>111219262
>No you can't.
yes you can, I won't limit myself to anime only but speed racer was a perfect example of "strong visuals", "weak narrative", and guess what, the movie was still very good
I think it's a lot harder to find an "ugly" piece of work that overcomes this by great writing since if it's well written, it probably had a good director at the helm

>>111218996
The problem is the flawed notion that narrative constitutes any more 'substance' than the other aspects of the creative work. People are so eager to isolate the script from the actual product to evaluate it by itself, they end up forgetting that they're watching film.

Narrative is quite simply another facet of style, another form of communicating the ideas you have. It's no more weighty in an evualuation of animated films than visual and aural aspects.

>>111215999
Don't you think that a person's style IS substance? When a person "styles" themselves they're showing their character/personality which is substance. At least that's my opinion on that.

>>111220081
Nah, it was average.

>>111215999
Visuals are part of the substance though.