Oh Japan, you so funny.
Daiz will stop this from happening.
I live in kanagawa and my isp knows I torrent fansubbed animu
>I am sure some Japanese companies will manage what Hollywood never did.
You're serious, right? A bunch of average anime company compared to Jewllywood?
>"We want to create a project so that anime fans overseas can enjoy."
>Let's try to destroy something harmless
Well if they really make a good alternative for a cheap price, without country restriction I wouldn't care (if they also subbed them).
But that's not going to happen so I'll just continue with xdcc.
And what's the prison bullshit. They would have to sue the people in their country, which would be too much work. Also come at me bros, you can't do anything to me as long as I'm in Switzerland.
To be fair VN piracy is pretty much dead in Japan
We usually have to wait a year after release to get our hands on it, and that's just for the popular stuff. Because they've arrested all the guys uploading them
>However, by attempting to serve the overseas markets with legal content it will make it easier for foreigners to open their wallets.
Oh yeah, I can't wait to get invested in <insert name here> and then have it get canceled and never find any scanlations. Tokyopop burned me too many times on this, Japanese publishers can fuck off.
Right? Do they really think China will give a shit?
I seriously imagine the Chinese representative for their overseas matters using it to wipe his shit because he forgot to stock a new roll of toilet paper.
>a good alternative for a cheap price,
But a torrent will always be the superior choice. If I like a show, I'll import some merchandise, maybe buy the manga. I'm not going to pay for each episode of a show, or a subscription fee that goes to middlemen.
As someone who plays a lot of
NTReroge, this is not really accurate. Releases do take a little longer on average nowadays, but the longest I've had to wait for something is a month or so, and even that is pretty rare. Popular/hyped stuff is generally up fairly quick.
>We want to create a project so that anime fans overseas can enjoy Japanese content
Fucking stop. The reason anime is worth a shit is because it's not pandering to murricunts. The moment they start doing that, we'll get god awful garbage like Space Dandy and PSG.
Reminder for all anons that 9 out of 10 times, the people who make a shitstorm about morality and ethics are the same people who don't abide by them and actually do worse things.
This number increases to 10/10 in anti-pirate cases as they have been observed and proven in these past few years of:
a. Drug trafficking (Vytas Simanavicius case)
b. Defamation (Prenda/Malibu)
c. Uploading torrents and copyright material themselves unlawfully (Megaupload case, big stir in the courts a month or so ago).
This leads to hypocrisy.
d. Breaking the 8th Amendment of the USA under the justification of example making.
e. Actual cybercrime of spreading malware and trojans on the Internet (https://torrentfreak.com/30000-pirates-receive-fake-fines-with-trojans-attached-140708)
f. Unwarranted and unlawful incarceration beyond what the law regards as a legal period (Piratebay founder)
g. Bribery, blackmail and perversion of the justice system (Piratebay founder, KimDotFat, Prenda)
h. Wasting more tax-payer money than artists lose to piracy over unlawful use of police forces (KimDotFat case and many more) when the police could be saving actual lives.
So anti-pirates are also potentially indirectly responsible for civilian deaths due to siphoning police reserves.
i. Filing millions of false DMCA notices and taking down many legitimate sites while hurting many businesses in the process. Censorship.
And not to mention that the world of artists is not represented by anti-pirates as over half of it is pro-piracy and independence from labels/distributors/Hollyshit.
Plenty more can be added.
>god awful garbage like Space Dandy and PSG
I could just rent BD's from tsutaya but why would I pay for anime?
Also, I spend more time reading nukiges than watching chinese cartoons
What other choice is there to the west? You can't get it legitimately at the same time as the Japs unless CR decide to pick up it.
It's like when HBO were shocked that GOT was the most pirated show overseas whilst it was still on a week's delay.
People get tired of waiting and risking spoilers.
Sure its inconvenient for me but I really can't blame people and companies from trying to protect their intellectual property. I feel the same way about video game DRM. It's not like I wouldn't do the same thing in their place.
That being said, pirates will find a way. They always do.
>I'm not going to pay for each episode of a show
then don't watch it.
>or a subscription fee that goes to middlemen.
do you realise there are "middlemen" involved whenever you purchase any kind of consumer goods? even in Japan there are publishing companies, shops etc. that would qualify as "middlemen"
>Dont bother with licensing and releasing stuff overseas
>Wonder why so much of your shit gets pirated
It kinda takes talent to miss the point this hard.
The thing is without piracy anime and especially manga would have even less of an international market than it already does. Without access to copyright violated translations and no television access to actually watch a show very few people internationally would be interested in the medium.
They need piracy to expand their market.
not to mention that its actually now Impossible to do this the "proper" way, as they want it done, because now we have localization and distribution companies actually tampering with and censoring western Blu-ray releases of all things (Haganai Next) so doing it that way is out the fucking window.
Because of the language barrier and the nature of importing, downloading and fansubs is the only proper way for anyone outside of japan to watch anime.
I don't see what the problem this. what they should do is make it flexible to get BD's over here.
That's how you can literally fix things.
>I really love this series, I want to buy it on Blu-ray
Unless people are stupid as shit and they distribute in shitty DVD-like boxes, then yes. it'd be illegal.
Hence "This is a free fansub. not for sale."
I understand shops taking a cut because they purchase in bulk and store that shit. Publishers take risks.
Online companies devoted to this kind of digital only content distribution have a single cost, bandwidth. Yet they take a much larger proportion than they deserve for their minimal effort. Sure, it's free money for the publishers in Japan who make deals with these distributors, but none of it is really making an impact on the actual media at all. All that matters is BR sales in Japan.
yeah I'm sure they're thrilled about expanding their market into the area of people who never pay for anything. it isn't the 80s anymore, you don't need to pirate anime. manga and visual novels might be more of a grey area because theres so much that will never be licensed.
>never care about filthy gaijins
suddenly amazing idea
>first let's take all the sites that the ignored users did down
>go into market
>first let's take all the sites that the ignored users did down
The problem is that they also want to maintain their ridiculous price gouging on domestic BDs. Western releases have to be 6months-1year+ later or else otaku will reverse import them.
>Over-Inflated prices for stuff they sell cheaper in Nippon
>Barely any releases in countries that are not murrica
>Even in Murrica stuff gets publisher months if not years after it aired
>Be baffled why your shit doesn't sell overseas despite having a huge following
Excellent work, Japan!
>some shitty vanilla manga gets removed from a single site and is a little harder to find
>Nips still pussyfooting around an issue until the cows come home
>a few Chink streaming sites get mean letters through the door
THE WORLD IS ENDING OH GOD.
Seriously, none of this stuff even makes an impact. One thing that would actually fuck up anime right now is CR dying. They sub everything, and every other group has quit. They'd leave a big vacuum and it'd take a while for fansubbing to recover.
I'm not even sure that they think it will work. What you can count on is the Jap gov't to pander for votes.
One day it's anime is for disgusting otaku, the next it's: anime is a sacred national treasure and important part of our cultural heritage that we must protect.
Ah yes, ''Piracy'', we have dismissed that claim.
No. Only an absolute moron thinks that if they cut their price in half, they'll get twice the business.
The current BR price is perfect for Japan. It's just what the otaku are willing to spend. If you put that shit up for sale cheaper in a different country, they'd reverse import it and you'd lose a huge amount of profit.
If you cut the price in Japan to match the international market, you'd get no more sales, and then you'd go out of business because of the much lower profit margins. 10,000 otaku support the entire industry. Your average salaryman doesn't watch late night anime, and never will.
Why crack down on it? Can't they just make anime legal in a better and cheaper way?
Why can't people use their fucking brain.
>western porn industry
>not horribly failing with fewer movies being produced every year while trying to move into streaming shit people pay for once and then rip for free
Not only is it destroyed by piracy, it's destroyed by amateur shit available free on streaming sites. There won't be an industry in 10 years.
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I thought piracy helped japan making quick autism bucks on anime?
The porn industry had a problem for years now with it being completely stale. What is killing the Porn Industry is not piracy but failure to adapt to a new business model and the flood of amateur-sites on the net.
Literally no one wants to see the same washed up chick sucking the same dicks if they can just go on the internet and watch porn that some guy doing his hot gf uploaded.
>They can actually. Most of the pirated shit comes from Chinese uploaders.
No, they really can't. check ANN every once in awhile and you'd see the same report of some guying getting arrested for uploading shit.
Might as well just quit, your industry isn't going shit with sales anyways.
>I thought piracy helped japan making quick autism bucks on anime?
It does, but Nips are filled with one of the most stubborn people in the world. Even majority of them still using outdated OS known as Windows xp.
The Dark Age of Fansubs is upon us.
Soon we'll have to get our fix from back alley dealers or hand over copious amounts of shekels to Crunchyroll.
>"Nyaa won't go down guys. Don't you worry."
>Nyaa strikes deal with Japanese anime companies."
>Becomes digital distribution service that you have to pay for.
>"See, told you Nyaa wasn't going down :^)"
Yes, and it's always some irrelevant shit like a few TV recordings or shit quality manga scan uploaded by a retard.
Things like full scans of magazines, anime BDMVs, games, etc, first appear on Chinese trackers which they then upload to Share.
>America and Europe
>giving a shit at all
I'm buying your BD's anyways.
Sounds like something that happened in the 80's.
>Japan makes their own site, lets call it nipponsubs
a week later
>horriblenipponsubs goes online
>sub groups start with their nipponsubs as the base like they are doing it with cr now
Seems like it will get better.
"The new law theoretically threatens my freedom, but similar, old laws haven't in the past. Therefore, this new one won't. There's nothing to worry about."
- Anonymous' grandfather's (1885-1939) last words before being sent into a concentration camp
I am having trouble understanding what exactly it is that they give a fuck about.
As you said, they clearly don't give a fuck about the western market.
They also don't give a fuck about hairy barbarian money in their domestic market.
So what is left that they could give a fuck about now?
Is this some kind of "This is my ball. You are not allowed to play with it." thing?
I nearly considered starting buying blurays yesterday. You know, have something to put on my shelf. So I went on Amazon UK.
>No European release
>The blurays might not work on my particular player
>The DVDs definitely wont work
>Season 1 is a really shitty upscale job
>From 2015, copyright infringement doesn't even carry a punishment in the UK
>End up buying first two issues of the new Ranma reprint
As expected, there is still literally no reason to buy anime.
>That's exactly what I want. Although I guess the retards will just move onto CR and Funi.
No, you really don't want that. a board barely getting traffic is pointless if you have no one to discuss an episode with.
First the manga, then the hentai now the anime.
Is it time to go to Neo Venezia?
We're doomed, soon /a/ will be forced to leave their homes to suck cocks for fansubbers to translate new anime for them
>Sup...so a new episode came out, huh?
>*Pulls out black cock*
>Alright I'll translate it for you, so start sucking and don't forget to swallow
If it came down to that then I would do it
4 polite letters telling you that you are harming content creators, and then nothing. Your identity remains known only to yourself and your ISP.
I got a bbc fetish too, anon, it's okay
>a new site will direct fans to legal copies of the 250 affected works at a flat price of a few hundred yen
Is actually going to be translated?
Is Japan seriously expecting me to pay money for untranslated anime and manga?
>We want to create a project so that anime fans overseas can enjoy Japanese animation
So fucking start doing that first and prove your salt before sending out notices.
Are you seriously implying that /a/ is the pinnacle of quality in discussion?
How fucking new are you? whenever trouble is on the horizon, some anon is bound to make a sexual fantasy of it.
>Suck tons of black cock for a 24 episode anime
>It gets worse at episode 16
What now, idiots. This plan wouldn't work.
You do realize official subs are basically subbed by the same people who use to fan sub right? It's not like they all of a sudden hired an international translator who worked at Coca Cola and knows 18 languages like the back of his hand.
All of these people saying that they'd pay if they had timely access to official subs.
Apparently CR does not count?
If you were to run your own service, what would you do differently from CR to make it count?
Fixing this would help. Though I admit the timing between airing and release is a lot better than Western TV streaming.
>there are still people who think mass pirating of media can be stopped
man these guys make me laugh
cut out one head two more will always takes its place as long as theres money to be made
This is mostly why I don't have a subscription either (tiny European country) but on the other hand fixing it is pretty much impossible or at least would take a decade and huge opportunity costs.
You can always subscribe to Crunchyroll!
Support the industry, guys.
I guess this is the end guys. This past 8 years was fun. I'm a poorfag so I can't afford anime DVDs.
Because this has worked in the past
>waterpanda level translations
Yeah fuck no. Maybe if everyone on their translation team was at least CCC tier you might have a case, but no, all you have is an 'official' transcript from a bunch of nips who think they know English because they were hired.
>Into the trash it goes
>surely they won't make subsidiaries/branches in US and make full use of DMCA, nor will they use international treaties and other available meant to protect their IP in other countries
>poor stupid companies
>anonymouses are teh smartest
>don't even attempt to sell to a market
>they take and translate your shit by themselves
>fuck you, we might want to sell to that market some time, maybe
As someone who regularly imports figures, BDs, eroge, and other merchandise: eat a dick, Japan.
Meh I'll just wait 5 years untill Disney buys all Japanese animation studios and will control 90% of the anime/manga market
That's why you host your shit in a country that doesn't have those treaties.
How do you think the Pirate Bay, a massive public torrent indexer that everyone knows about, is still alive?
>implying Japan can stop the piracy
>implying Japan can do shit
>implying Japan can really do shit
Even the US can't stop piracy. If Japan has the technology to trace seeders in a matter of seconds then probably there's a chance to stop anime piracy. Good luck, Japan!
>Meh I'll just wait 5 years untill Disney buys all Japanese animation studios and will control 90% of the anime/manga market
>giving 3 shits from here to Sunday
How much money do you think they make?
Flipfag faggot here. Yeah, especially those movies from jewlywood or local movies and software. And on some places(especially on rural areas), you can just buy 2 or 3 Cd/DVD for 2 dollars without getting caught by the cops(well Philippines is quite lenient when it comes to piracy)
>although it's not copyright protected in said country
Shit doesn't work like that!
You can't just take something, bring it to your country and claim it isn't protected because no one's selling it.
Yes, but Jewsney is benevolent enough to not care for how you're getting their product. They're focused on Tumblr whales making them think they're Princesses because of Frozen.
Shit anime that I'm watching=/=Most anime is shit!
It sounds good in theory but don't forget that people who made TPB are in jail or on the run (didn't check for a while, not completely sure about current status).
Also 'public torrent indexer' doesn't have any actual content, only torrent files, yet they were constantly targeted.
What if the pirates left the advertisements that air together with the anime intact?
I really hope you're right. Most people are stupid and blind facebook and dumblr fags, they watch streams. So it wouldn't be too far-fetched to assume that they'll warn those sites rather than actual torrent or DDL websites.
Anime is for faggots, manga and VN is where it's at.
Eh, I prefer using xdcc anyways. #intel, #nibl, and #kametsu already have damn near everything. Sucks when you can't find something though.
Not that this "crackdown" means shit anyways.
Yes, things are automatically copyrighted, you still need to register the copyright for each country.
The whole point of the Berne Convention is that if I make "ecchi loli garbage anime" that nobody can register that "ecchi loli garbage anime" as their copyright, only I can register it as my copyright. I still need to actually register it and pay the fees etc.
>sounds good in theory
Hosting in foreign countries with lax laws regarding piracy and without agreements with the US has been a popular method for people hosting content illegally to stay alive for a long time.
Of course, the laws are always tightening in countries, so it's becoming less and less of a viable option. Still, it's not so much a theory as it is common practice.
.....Y-yeah, I totally knew about #news too
>Oh Japan, you so funny.
Just wait until more publishers use DMCA against sites such as bakabt or e-hentai.org (sadpanda). To qualify, they need to be corporations registered to do business in the USA and have a branch office on USA soil. They can then invoke DMCA and like Wani, force Tenboro to purge the material.
Scofflaws say that C&D requests can be ignored by Tenboro. That's true, any site can ignore them as they are polite methods instead of a lawsuit. DMCA allows recovery of lawsuit AND investigation costs, so it's not like a successful dmca lawsuit costs a company much money. If you ignore a C&D, then the complaint can be filed at the gov't legal prosecutor's office. Eventually a court filing will be done by the prosecutor based upon evidence obtained. At that point, the scofflaw has 30 days (if domestic, I don't know the intl time limit) to respond. Just because you are a "no show" in court doesn't mean that a verdict won't be issued. If you don't show up to Plead or set a trial date, the judge can either dismiss the case or issue a bench verdict which is almost always in the plaintiff's favor and almost always grants most or all of the plaintiff's demands and requests. The bench verdict is the same as a trial verdict in that you are "convicted" of a crime. You can appeal, but the appeal court will consider that you are a scofflaw since you tried to ignore the law breaking complaint.
But let's say you live on Mars and can ignore a ruling. As long as you never travel to the USA or a country (with extradition treaty with the usa) that checks the crime computer records when you use a passport for a border crossing, then you can continue to be a scofflaw. If you do cross borders or enter a police station, you can be detained when the computer shows you have an outstanding warrant.
If only they want to clear their rusted mind, pirating animu is actually serve like advertisement. Pretty sure there are anons that genuinely like the show that they watch and decide to buy the BD. You can't blindly buy things before you know what the content is.
I would pay for Daiz-quality, no-DRM downloads. I don't think CR would ever be an option for that, but sure.
I'd also like more money to go to the studios rather than CR's pockets. I don't understand why they don't just have a bitcoin address or paypal account that you could throw money at instead of buying useless merchandise. Or if they did something similar to Humble bundle.
>>you can only download Tuesday and Friday when they have juice for internet.
Imagine if that happened when Haruhi S3 ever comes out.
>lots of Asians are trying to download it because of hype
>Not all countries have applied this rule
>Not all countries have applied this rule
>Not all countries have applied this rule
>Not all countries have applied this rule
It's funny how people think that nothing will happen when we had a great example just a couple days ago. I bet these retards also claim "fair use" at every opportunity. I feel like this board is now filled with 12 year olds.
So can we nuke japan again just because of Mangatraders, Sadpanda, and now this?
Isn't this extremely counter-productive
The only reason people even know about anime is the old bootleg VHS scene and the piracy we know today.
IRC is employed by people all over the world including fansubbers and
shitposters or so they sayas en extremely effective method of communication! There's also XDCC but it's really slow for me.
This will amount to nothing.
But I would actually buy anime if it was sold for reasonable prices and good quality. But while there have been some attempts at that in the US, for the rest of the world pirating is the only option.
Well, in the worst case scenario an encrypted IRC is the best substitute for torrent trackers these days, what with everyone archiving everything on todays massive HDD capacities and with todays great Internet speeds,
you could simply drop into IRC and request a magnet link to share shit. easy peasy or things like that.
China will only stop pirating when Japan gives back what is theirs by birth right.
all you niggers laughed
>why the hell would you archive anime that you finished watching that's just fucking stupid
who's laughing now
Just reminding you guys who's behind this.
Cracking down on piracy means:
1. You look like a greedy corporate asshole
2. You alienate your fans by implementing consumer unfriendly measures
3. You don't actually prevent anyone from pirating
>audio good quality
>video good quality
I'll suspend my disbelief into your ass
But there are legitimate distribution models now. The simulcast providers pretty much cover all shows now. If anime piracy didn't exist, it wouldn't be like no one could access anime. People would just be forced to use the likes of CR, Funi, and Daisuki to watch current stuff, and buy the BDs if they wanted it archived in higher quality, which is what Japan wants.
In 1st world countries as well if you count some normal fag idiots. There was one guy in my university who sold tons of pirated DVD with anime or movies because the people where to fucking stupid to download shit or they believed some CIA cops would waste money and time to catch them because they downloaded an episode of some unlicensed chinese cartoon.
What are you guys gonna do if these websites close tomorrow? Remember what happened to Mega Upload? Everyone thought Mega Upload won't get closed, but they did closed.
Well, I have always been downloading and storing on backups that are maintained. While some of you scoff, please remember that it is people like me that re-upload missing or deleted files when you post begging requests. Please don't take us for granted that we are always around to protect you from dmca deletions on sites like e-hentai or bakabt.
To prevent against magnetization loss on longterm hard drive storage, I use MultiPar which is a convenient GUI for the parchive error correction format. I prefer this type of parity-based correction instead of using RAID. I store the correction overhead files on a _separate_ drive as well as the same drive the protected files are on. This provides convenience and safety.
Multipar (supports current standard PAR3):
Even more reason to let piracy be. The normalfag retard is already streaming his anime from crunchyshit, the ones generating hype for shows and blowing $$$ importing plastic figurines will prefer to DL their anime.
>But there are legitimate distribution models now.
And they're shit tier outside of America.
>buy the BDs if they wanted it archived in higher quality, which is what Japan wants.
Westerners aren't going to shell out $200 for 13 episodes of Chinese cartoons, the pricing of media here is entirely different.
Have to seen how expensive video games and music is in Japan? A lot of albums are at least $30.
Sometimes you have to destroy everything to create everything.
Wait for some kindly anons to repost all the shit that's been lost somewhere like mega, and distribute links to it here.
Either that or pick up manga from now on.
You underestimate how autistic weebs are about their chink cartoons. I guarantee some guys have terabytes worth of everything from Nurutu to obscure 70s anime that have never been subbed.
>Nice being a thirdworldfag.
>Read posts of amerifats sweating bullets because ISP's sent them fines
>People literally have make-shift cinema here where they play pirated movies in bars
Everything in life has a upside
This. It looks to me as if like 80% of people on the internet are too stupid to use google. They only buy or download stuff if someone else is giving them a link for a website.
3rd world you say
How many businesses are missing that are really fucking easy to run just lack regulation for investment?
Obviously there's films and music but anything more technical?
They'd be making more money on they spent that budget on getting stuff out on Netflix/Crunchyroll/pick your poison.
Hell, make a new service that lets you subscribe to torrent, then they keep track on what DL:ed and spread the money accordingly to the studios. Cheap as fuck, massive return investment and everyone would be happy.
But nooooo, making money has to be hard. You just have to turn this into a pricing and accessibility issue. Can't they learn anything from Steam? AKA the moneyprinting app?
>tfw you're not a newfag and /a/ buttfucked you until you learned xdcc
Things like this don't even register to me. I only use bakabt if I cant find something on rizon. Doesnt help that I cant torrent on campus but I dont have problems finding things.
>How many businesses are missing that are really fucking easy to run just lack regulation for investment?
not that anon but are you white? have a college degree or even highschool? well have this managerial post as your entry level job
it is quite funny that here in flipland it is a certain ISP which exerts effort to stop piracy(and jewing peope at the same time) by having the 1GB per day even if you subscribed to 1 day unlimited internet while the government is busy in doing innovating ways to corruption.
If you want to make a honest living forget about it, taxation will hit you for 70% of your income.
If you want to work illegally, cut corners, bribe people or take on and off jobs while abusing the welfare system then you are golden.