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Can any of you drawfags explain how this panel is done? How

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Can any of you drawfags explain how this panel is done?

How does he draw this?

Does he take a photograph with a wide lens, and use that as a reference?

Is there an effect he applies in a software?

Did he just free hand this?

I just started learning to draw so this is really mind blowing.
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It would take me a month to draw this, even with tracing. Jesus christ.

I'm having a panic attack just looking at it.
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freehand perspective construction.

It requires you to make a lot of geometrical bullshit (no calculus, no need to measure distances with a ruler) and be really precise but it can be done by yourself.
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>>>/ic/ has a sticky, which eventually links out into a tutorial on perspective. Mangaka is either mastered the shit out of that perspective stuff, or rotoscoped a high school falling into a black hole.
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Also helps that the guy is just that damn good at drawing.
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>>111118644
>>111118651
Holy fuck, so he did this free-hand?

Do you guys know how long something like this would take for a pro?

and usually these guys have assistants to help with this stuff right?
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I would start by drawing freehand perspective line for reference, then start with the room. Then, do draw ref lines on the floor based on the perspective lines for further reference for me to place the seats. after that, draw the first 3 or so rows in some detail, and do the rest of the rows. and and actual detail into it.

But do keep in mind that Hiramoto Akira is a literal god, and he has skills beyond human understanding
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He's a fuckin master
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>>111118724
He could have just traced a photo taken with a wide angle lens and then stylized the tracing.
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>>111118724
Yeah, but on the one shots for some artists, the first chapters, they do all this shit with usually no more than 2 assistants.
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>>111118724
usually they do and even for trained people it takes several hours on average. for this one, I'd say at least 10 hours but I'm not sure, maybe a little less, maybe a lot more. Nothing exceptional for guys who make it their job.
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>>111118793
Some of the bigger name artists have up to 6 assistants
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>>111118771
Or used a photo as reference. Not hard
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>>111118724
Remember those matchstick towers L built in the Death Note manga? the ones with thousands of stupid little matchsticks? Those were drawn by assistants, so, yes, the big names definitely have them.

As for the Prison School mangaka? No idea how he drew that, but it's not outside the realm of possibility that he's just that good. Or photo reference.
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>>111118732
Well, doing it without any preparatory perspective construction would be really really badass, but most likely he did use perspective construction, which is completely within the realm of human understanding.
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There's fucking shadows on the students' jackets and hair up to the back 5th row.

What the fuck.

Maybe it's because I'm new to this, but my jaw is on the fucking floor.
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>>111118724
Are you stupid? Of course he didn't draw it from scratch just using his imagination. It most likely happened like this:
>take a fisheye room photo as a reference
>mark some basic stuff like the placement of people and their most basic shape, the bend of the walls, etc
This alone will take you make 30 minutes. Then you can just start drawing using the markers you've just put.
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>>111118843
>>111118874
I think only using a photo reference would actually be harder than using construction (+ a reference, possibly).
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That's a well-drawn wide angle. It's not exaggerated as much as other mangaka sometimes do it.

I think it's possible he referenced off a photo, but he ultimately did it by hand. There's something about the row behind that makes me think it was free hand. Likely he put down a shit-tonne of lines for the chairs, torsos and where the heads should generally go.
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>>111118549
>how
it's simply, git gud
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Okay another question

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DRAW THIS

Is it true it's just a photo with a filter?
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>>111119013
I mean, there's just no fucking way he did this without tracing a photo right?
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>>111119013
Yup, it's pretty obvious that it's a photo with a filter.
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>>111119013
That author uses tons of filtered photos in all his manga.
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>>111119013
looks more like cgi to me, or at least partially. I mean the tiles for example are so even and regular (and slightly pixellated) that it looks more like partial cgi than a photo or a hand drawing.
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>>111119079
>>111119097
>>111119107
Is it like a easy one click filter you can get in a software, like Clip Studio Paint, or is it some really complicated process to make it look like this.
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>>111119013
Definitely a filtered photo traced over. You can usually tell because the traced lines seem a little blurry and nobody would put that much effort doing shading for individual roof tiles.
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>>111118549
The art for Prison School is sooo good.
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>>111118549
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODT7L2zxHIU&index=5&list=FLOxQ2OXd5wYTs2WrF1pBbiw
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berserk/vinland anyone?
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>>111119522
Thank you for this.
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>>111119522
Did anyone else get this as a related video, or does Google suspect me of 3DPD?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg2cHec9bEY
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It's all about learning how to draw perspective, OP. The mangaka probably knows how to do this (if he isn't shooping it, which it doesn't look like he is). Perspective is a bitch to get the hang of, but there's tons of tutorials out there on how to do it.
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>>111119013
Oh, yeah, he drew in some, but most of the fillers in this image are definitely pics with filters. It's really easy to tell.
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>>111119693
It's the same channel.
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>>111119924
Oh. Mystery solved.
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what about this
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I want to draw manga as a hobby, but damn.

It's like I have decades before I learn to draw what I want.

I really want to follow the Prison School art style.
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>>111119993
This is another reason why Korean manhwas are the shit of shit compared to mangas.
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>>111120037
wat
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>>111119993
Where is this from and why is it such a good scan?
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>>111119993
He parachuted out of the Boeing so he could draw it as it crashed. You can tell because ?? are never visible from the ground.
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>>111120106
It's from Attack of the Ajin.

You're a titan

You're a titan

You get a titan

You're an Ajin

You're an Ajin

You get an Ajin

We're all Ajins
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>>111120119
sounds reasonable.
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>>111120162
you're a jerk
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>>111119993
My best guess is he took a model airplane, drew that, and the rest can be pulled from google maps and a filter.
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>>111118549
Professional artist here. There are several ways to approach this depending on your skill level and time limit.

If you have all the time in the world, you can spend a day or two working out the five point perspective grid. It's not so much hard as it is simply tedious. I don't find the process to be very fulfilling so I personally use 3d programs and render with a fisheye lens. Alternatively, you could also take a real photo in fisheye or wide angle lens and trace it, and apply a fisheye lens distortion in photoshop. This works best with wide angel lens and the distortion will look off with most regular lens.

When it comes to making mange/comics, time is very limited, so most artists will either have a lot of assistants to draw the backgrounds for them, or use 3D software/tracing to speed things up. At the end of the day, the goal is to tell a story through art, not how detailed you can make the background so it's very common for artist to not hand draw everything you see. I already have problems with my hands from overworking, so shortcuts that reduces stress and saves time is a huge plus.
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>>111120551
Where's my shortcut to becoming amazing at art.
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>>111120551
Forgot to mention, you could also just draw with a regular perspective grid, and apply the fisheye distortion in photoshop afterward. That will save time on marking out curved grids if you're to type to insist on hand drawing everything.
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>>111120623
Become mentally retarded.

Atleast you'll think you're amazing.
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>>111120691
That's true.
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>>111120623
Practice your ass off. And do life studies. Don't just watch and draw anime. You have to draw 3DPD as well.
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>>111120729
>You have to draw 3DPD as well.

To become great there is always a sacrifice to be made.
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>>111120551
Should have posted this with my explanation. Here's a sample of my work that combines 3D rendering with 2d paint overs. With the proper post rendering work, it can look 100% painted but take only 1/10 of the time.
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>>111120822

Nude 3DPD
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>>111120822
this
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>>111120859
Dayum son, that's like cheating.
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>>111118549
Well, if a nigger can go THIS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95L-zmIBGd4
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>>111120879
>friends over for drink and draw party
>out of paper
>oh well, just use back of figure drawing sketchbook
>"don't turn the pages over. Just draw on this side"
>"okay" they lied
>flips page over to reveal endless drawings of naked 3DPD
>fat, skinny, old, hot, all of them 3DPD
>tfw my friends all scream

I warned them not to flip it over....
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>>111120941
Honestly tired of this kind of reaction. If I entered a how well can you draw background competition, that would be cheating. If I'm trying to finish a 60 page mange/comic book before my hand breaks or hell freezes over, I do whatever is the fastest.

You don't drive a car in a foot race, but you sure as fuck will when you're just trying to get somewhere.
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>>111120941
Not him but there's no "cheating" in the world of art as long as it isn't flat out plagiarism. >>111120859 could probably the reproduce the same artwork but at a snail pace but why do that when you have the technological know-how to be efficient and get the same job done in a timely manner?
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>>111121177
This. It's so annoying to have to explain this to everyone who expects me to draw every pixel and update my work everyday.
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>>111120859
How much is the going rate for a commission?
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>>111121177
>but why do that
because it's honest and not cheating
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>>111121286
and I don't mean in general. I mean you specifically.

I have an idea and I'd like to produce the first chapter and I need an artist. It's be a manga. How much per page?
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>>111121305
Next you're going to tell me it's cheating to use references. Pro-tip: Every medium that uses art to tell stories use references and technique for speeding things up. Welcome to the real world, kiddo, sorry to burst your bubble.

>>111121255
I'm an animator so I'm very familiar with using every shortcut necessary to get work done.
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>>111121286
Commissions are closed indefinitely. I've been too busy with personal projects. Though for something like the drawing I just posted, I would charge up to $1000 or more if it's for commercial use. Prices used to be lower but as I got busier, it gets higher to make up for lack of time (although commissions are still closed, but this is how much it would have cost if I were still open)
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>>111121455
Gotcha.
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>>111121455
>>111121255
>>111121160
>>111120859
Ching Chong go back to China, you fucking cancerous faggot.
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>>111121443
No references are fine. Tracing, CGI, having assistants, etc. is cheating. I understand it's necessary to cheat to survive among the cheaters though.
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>>111121370
Manga pages would be priced differently, though I only draw manga written by myself, so sorry about that.

Here's a sample of my most recent work http://tapastic.com/series/fisheye
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>>111120859
Gives up forever
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>>111121536

>having assistants, etc. is cheating

That's nearly every mangaka.
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>>111121536
Says the non-artist. Who gives a shit about your baseless opinion.
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>>111121536
>having assistants
Weekly mangaka would never, ever, meet the deadlines without them.
Tracing on the other hand is just lazy.
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>>111121559
that's a shame, do you know good places to look for artists then?
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>>111121536
>having assistants
Next you're going to tell me that an anime should only be animated by one person. All voice acting and music should be done by the same person too.
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>>111121559
>you'll NEVER be this good.
I'll just stick to drawing cute girls for the draw threads.
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>>111120859
I didn't know that Yuumi browsed /a/.
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>>111121659
*Yuumei
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>>111121624
>tfw Berserk didn't have assistants until 2006
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>>111121659
>browsed /a/
No, he is just advertising and marketing his jewish art. Report and ignore.
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>>111121559
Most art sites have a lot of artists looking for work. I know these sites are hated on 4chan but deviantart and tumblr are a good place to start if you don't speak Japanese, otherwise I'd recommend pixiv. Just keep in mind that most professional artists are very busy and not very cheap, so you'll have to balance your budget and compromise on the skill level unless you get super lucky.
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>tfw you will never be this good
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>>111121721
>he
I have some news for you anon.
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>>111121536
This >>111119522 is now cheating. Using photoshop or other digital paint programs is also cheating. If you use a live model that is also cheating.
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It's also a question of how much the assistants do. In most English comics they usually have another guy ink the artist's pencil art, and then there's the colorist.
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Why the fuck is everyone thinking they need to use photos for everything that includes perspective? There are enough artists who can draw this stuff without copying anything.
Just take Kim Jung Gi, he doesn't even make a rough sketch before his inking. He just draws things straight in without any guidelines.
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>>111121738
I love Samura. Easily my favorite artist.
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>>111121735

Fuck, meant to reply to this >>111121622
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>>111121721
>he
they still believe there are no grills on the internet
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>>111121787
>Why the fuck is everyone thinking they need to use photos for everything that includes perspective?
Where is this everyone?
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>>111121794
How much % of pixiv artists do you think speak at least basic english to make a deal?
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>>111121791
MY FUCKING DICK
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>>111121659
Unfortunately I am attracted to /a/'s shit taste.
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>>111120119
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>>111121855
Look up Love the Brute.
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>>111121934
I've always found it funny that Samura's 20+ year magnum opus was never drawn as well as his sadistic porn.
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>>111121787
It's still not faster than a 3D model if you're working on a comic with dozens of shots of the same location. In the manga/comic industry, saving time is the utmost important.
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>>111121860
That is surprising.
It was nice seeing your booth at AX.
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>>111121849
Maybe not everyone bot at least SOME.
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>>111121854
No idea on that one. You can try and find out. I don't speak Japanese and Japanese companies still tried to hire me, either in broken English or flat out Japanese. If they can try, so can you.
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>>111119013
ALL of shitpun's backgrounds are photos.
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>>111121999
Why would it be fast with a 3D model? Yuu still have to trace the 3D model. Kim Jung just skips the 3D model and "traces" it from his mind.
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>>111122116
Is that a fucking huge ass vagina?
That's the manga about the mountain climber right? Great art, need to read it
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>>111118549

If you break this down to its most basic level, doing this sort of shot is actually quite easy.

Although it should be noted that this doesn't mean anybody can do it right off the bat, you'd need extensive knowledge of simple layouts of perspective and how to do it efficiently otherwise you're better off just using a 3D program or photography to get your results like some other people in this thread just said.
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>>111122029
I find it surprising myself. I use the crude humor here in parts of my comics so whenever someone asks me why I visit 4chan, I just say "research"

It was nice meeting you too!
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technology has done a lot for mango
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Is this traced?
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>>111121536
Why? They're drawing MANGA, not single pieces of artwork.
As long as it looks good and you know which parts are the artist's own work (so that you don't get i over your hand salivating over his 5k1llz), there are no problems.
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>>111122186
MC is getting his dick sucked.
The manga has some very interesting visual metaphor.
This one is my favorite.
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>>111121999

Efficiency works differently for each person, ya dingus

People uses 3D models as a tool to get a desired result, in no way does this automatically implicate such methods as the surefire "this is the fastest method"
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>>111122116
Stuff like that isn't hard at all. It's just an amorphous blob where you don't really need to pay that much attention to coherence and can just add a bunch of random-ass details to make it look good.
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>>111122134
Trace? No you just 3D render. That's like saying Pixar redraws their 3D animation in 2D. You click a button that says render, and it becomes what you see. There's still a bit of a 3D look to it but you can just add a few filters and paint over a few parts. I used to draw everything from scratch and boy did that take forever.
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>>111122208
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>>111122242
>MC has only one expression the entire manga.

I think the mangaka has a facial recognition problem.
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>>111122208

In what way does this make you think it's traced?
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show examples of non-scanned, hand-drawn locations.
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>>111122289
Looks nice though.
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>>111121787
>Just take Kim Jung Gi, he doesn't even make a rough sketch before his inking. He just draws things straight in without any guidelines.
Do you have any particle of an idea how hard it is to do that and how rare are people that are able to do it well?
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>>111122294
I hate this shit. That's the same shit as using tons of photos in your "painting" and call it "painting". I wish this kind of cheating would be forbidden by law.
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>>111122294
Which program do you use? I'm only really familiar with Maya. Do you know of any good tutorials to make 3D backgrounds look 2D?
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>>111122308
I actually think it was a conscious choice, since his other work doesn't really have that problem.
The MC is literally autistic.
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>>111122357
Just because you don't know any others because they're not popular it doesn't mean there aren't many others.
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>>111122264
That is true. I should have specified that for the style of art I'm trying to achieve, which is fully colored panels for each page, it's a lot faster to make a model than hand draw and then color and shade them 30+ times.
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>>111122347
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>>111122407
What I'm saying is that assuming that an artist does it that way because a handful of such guys exist is stupid.
Also, do you know any others?
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>>111122242
I'm not sure i get it. I think i'm stupid or something.
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>>111122473
The hands on the tents are the wind.
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>>111122359
Your tears are delicious. Please, keep soaking me with your broken sense of entitlement.
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>>111122359
Your rage is delicious. Keep hating. Meanwhile you can go hate mail all the animation studios for CGI. Making 3D models is a lot of work within itself and it is it's own form of art. Never watch another show if you think mixing 3D and 2D should be illegal.
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>>111122444
That makes me feel physically ill.
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>>111122444

This has poor values, sorry mate
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>>111122527
>>111122532
>delicious
It's a feast for all of us.
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Post more art
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>>111122367
I actually made a tutorial just for that a while back. It's a bit outdated. I'll post a new one when I have time. http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/205/e/f/3d_background_tutorial_by_yuumei-d58fpqc.jpg
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>>111122532
>3D models
>art
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>>111121627
You have to train more. That's really just it.
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>>111122575
Jokes on you, I don't actually know what that means.
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>>111122347
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>>111122615

Low-poly 3D models is an art in and of itself

don't get me started on edgeflow.

oh wait
>speaking to someone who doesn't know shit about the world of 3D and has only seen it post-production in movies, games, etc.

my bad.
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>>111120106
Here ya go anon
http://www.batoto.net/comic/_/comics/ajin-r9570
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>>111122685
The fuck off to your glorious world of 3D. This board is about the superior 2D.
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>>111122615
Next you're going to tell me sculpting isn't art.

>>111122597
That's incredibly helpful. Thanks.
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KnH is a great example of using tracing and photo-reference.
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>>111122615
I have bad news for you.


Scroll to the pizza part for rage tears
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/10/21/a-message-from-catherine-director-katsura-hashino/
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>>111122738
also of portraying autism
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>>111122593
Does it have to be manga?
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>>111122713
Not for long.
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>>111121559
>/a/non draws Fisheye Placebo
And here I was afraid it was just a poser weeb.
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>>111122757
>rage tears
Why? The image looks like shitty 3D even without the making of picture. It just proves my point. Also, who the fuck plays "Catherine"?
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Hiroe is such an underrated artist.
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>>111118549

It's actually easier to draw a fisheye effect completely by hand than attempt to produce it using complicated reference lines or mess with 3D software. This picture is quite clearly drawn freehand, as the walls and curves don't align with mathematical precision, as they would if it were traced from a reference photo/a 3D model. And there's no need to. In a picture with a lot of details, the human eye is more forgiving when it comes to the general perspective.
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>>111122768
I love when artist portray shop with all those little details and stuff.
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>>111122193
Jesus christ, you were good 7 years ago already. I'm jealous, senpai.
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Video's of artists drawing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwAOTwPY0oo
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>>111122885
>underrated
wat
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>>111122818
Fisheye Placebo has goatse as trojan logo. Where do you think that kind of taste came from?
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i fucking love hayashida's style
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>>111122937
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/49675276
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>>111122937
A contrast to Samura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNITDW-3aTM
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Here's a nice video of the Tsugumomo artist building and drawing a gymnasium scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAUKymZigxQ
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGZtXt1ULKA

Beautiful
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>>111122983
I thought we agreed not to post that after a bunch of morons trashed the stream
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>>111122924
Work hard, anon! You'll get there!
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>>111122193
Truly 4chins is a place for connaisseurs.
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This seems like as good of a thread as any to ask. Why is it that (generally) Eastern comic art is drawn with more skill than the Western equivalent? Obviously there's both savants and shitters on either side, but if you compare the best examples of the two cultures, Japan would win by a pretty high margin. Is it just that comics are so much more popular there than they are here and draw in a larger pool of artists as a result?
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>>111123050
sorry, I don't really frequent /a/ THAT regularly
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How does he do it?
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>>111123096
10 years actually, those fucking dragons.

I'll try, that means a lot seeing you're one of my inspirations.
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>>111122654
That's a lot of effort for a handrawn city. looks a bit dull tho
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>>111123154
Textured brush filter in Photoshop. There a plenty of tutorials online if you google.
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>>111123121

There is skill in the west, you're just not looking hard enough.

And besides, once you start diving into stylistic choices between the two sides, arguments become meaningless because of how subjective the subject of art in question is getting.

We could argue all day long on how manga > comics or vice versa, but at the end of the day both mediums have their pros and cons and everybody has their preferences and must learn to appreciate the many forms of art both comics and manga represent.
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>>111123248
oops, not filter, just textured brushes. I should sleep...
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>>111123154

Nice colors but Saber has a really awkward looking pose. I thought she was grabbing Lancelot's sword at first.
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>>111123177
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>>111123264
That was a very objective and thought-out answer, anon. I appreciate that.
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>>111123308
I don't understand.
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>>111122977

His artstyle looks good because it perfeclty compliments the world which the manga is suppose to take place in.
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>>111123161
Best of luck to you!

I just flew back from giving a panel at Comic Con. All the hard work is worth it in the end. Don't give up!
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>>111123430
>his
heh
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>>111123430
Her.
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It's called curvilinear perspective.
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>>111123264

Pretty much. Those discussions usually go nowhere anyway.

I also wouldn't group Franco-Belgian artists with American/English artists even if they inevitably overlap.
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>>111123008
That is fucking incredible.
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>>111123456
>>111123457

nani
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>>111123446
How did you become a professional artist? I mean what did you do to get work for the first time, and how are you doing it now?
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>>111118549

intermediate artists can even accomplish this sort of effort, it just takes dedication and your skill to lay down the detail.

example:
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=43704755
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>>111123446

>>111123672
There's probably a ton of info buried in her dA.
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>>111123008
The great thing about doing things like this is that the artist can keep everything consistent when revisiting locations, scaling back the workload massively.
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>>111123589
It's not an edgelord, it's an edgelady.
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>>111122116
Isn't that from the mangaka of Innocent? It's the mountain climbing manga, no?

That Shinichi guy is really talented. While I don't really liked either of his works his art is superb; then again this is a monthly series iirc.
Still gotta debind the 5th vol for scan....
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Guys...guys.
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>>111123672

connections

you can land a job easier if you just have a connection to somebody already in the business you're looking for. And with the internet this sort of thing has never been easier.

Just immerse yourself in websites and forums and IRC channels with other people and try to socialize. Don't be a dick and don't be a kiss-up and don't blatantly advertise yourself. Ask for critiques and help other artists by critiquing them.

There was a guy who scored a job at pixar just by emailing some of the people their his work and asking for some critiques up until Pixar thought "hey this guy is pretty good we can use him" and asked him if he was up to the task.

Of course there are other ways of getting into the business, like just showing off your work or some shit. Just make yourself known, don't set up a portfolio site and wait for jobs to come to your feet, you need to go out there and talk to other people.
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>>111123672
I started young (12) so by the time I needed work for money, I already had a lot of experience. I gained enough followers online that I could post a journal about commissions and have enough orders to live off of. After posting my online comics, publishers contacted me. Now I just table in artist alley at conventions selling my books and prints. It's a surprisingly good and stable source of income. I would recommend it for all artists new and old. It's a great way to meet friends and gain experience.

Good luck!
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I can't even draw good looking stick men. All I want to do is draw beautiful things.
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>>111124035
And they told me getting into art wouldn't work and wouldn't be stable etc.
Goddamit. Thanks for the answer.
>>111123952
Thanks to you too.

>>111124037
Take a look at /ic/'s sticky, it might help you.
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>>111124037
That takes practice. Get to drawing now. And start with simple things.
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>>111124284
Stable or not you wouldn't know until you've tried it yourself. If this is your dream, you should follow it. Sounds cheesy but you know, your life should be lived your way, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. If you fail the first time, you can try again or try something new.

Gonna sleep now. Later, anons!
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>>111124459
Yeah, very recently I've experienced this for myself so a few regrets appeared. Thanks again.
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>>111122444
>>111122654
>>111122347
more
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I can draw well as a hobby but I can't fathom doing this professionally. I would be too afraid of getting a mental block or my fingers suddenly losing dexterity and I suddenly can't draw even if deadline was closing. I already have that fear and I'm not in any industry yet.
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>>111124819
Same here, anon. I got some very talented friends that are pushing their art and getting work out of it (got one friend developing a manga that's showing a lot of promise) but here I am just sketching kiddy shit.

Artistic blocks are easy to get over once you find the right inspiration or motivation (money is a good one), but physical is a lot more difficult. I have a shoulder injury and it's a huge restriction, both physically and mentally. I find there's no point trying to learn new, elaborate techniques because I wouldn't be able to do them anyway.

You're probably younger and fitter than I am though, so I'm jealous. You have a lot more potential and doors open for you and you should be trying to do the most to exploit those.
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>>111120859

>Female on 4chan

are you a qt :3c
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>>111121791
ye
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>>111121738
wait, that's Samura Hiroaki? well shit
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>>111125166
Good luck to you. It might be more fun if money is incentive, I suppose.
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>>111118549
You ain't seen nothing yet. Hiramoto is retarded good.
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>>111122767
I thought you were just shitposting, then I realized you were right.
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>>111118549

exaggerated 4 point perspective. And from the looks of it, due to the cropping of the composition, it wouldn't have to be super precise.

>tfw you're a competent artist with professional experience but don't feel like putting effort into anything unless someone is paying me well.
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>>111125491

goddamn i love that shit
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>>111118549
I imagine the background was 3D rendered and then he drew students over top of it. This is completely doable by hand though.
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>>111128826

>memes

come on man
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Hey, if I'm trying to boost my art skills, should I take a beginning or intermediate art class?
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>>111134408

>Class

if you've got the money to burn, but I'd rather suggest you just look for free shit online

go to /ic/ or something.
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>>111118549
I see Hana, Chiyo, Mari, the girl Gakuto is infatuated with. Am I missing someone?
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>>111120859

Fucking hell. I now found the comic that I was looking for. I saw your work uploaded in Batoto. Read it by chance and forgot to bookmark. I like your work, pretty cool story. There better be incest vibes between the MC and the little sister.
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>>111118549

OK, reverse searched this, found out what it was. Is this shit good? It looks crazy insane, I'm gonna read it, what the hell am i in for here?
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>>111135325

an intellectual ride of perversion amongst a group of imprisoned males in a 'co-ed' school with nothing but hot babes.
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>>111135400

How are they imprisoned? Is it like torture or what? This is my last question.
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How about this?
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>>111135477
Muh style.
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Friendly reminder that Isayama Hajime with his chicken scratches is one of the most successful mangakas
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>>111135477
>>>/deviantart/
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>>111135477
You should change your filename sometime.
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>>111136638
Why?
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>>111120275
Are you retarded, it's basic fucking linework.
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>>111121866
What the fuck.
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>>111123154
It's his noble phantasm.
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>>111135439
They're imprisoned behind bars at the school grounds.
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>>111135477
Impressive
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How do you draw this without losing your sanity in the process?
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>>111138697
What sanity?
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>>111121559
new chapter when
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>>111118549
3/4 point perspective.
Draw the plane for the chair first.
Use the chair seat as a guide for the legs.
The legs as a guide for the body.
?????
Profit.

I've done paintings like these it's fun.
I would've personally drawn them in more varying poses once you have the perspective grid down you're 80% done, drawing the figures is the easy part.
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>>111138697
Draw the big stuff.
Apply screentone.
Apply screentone.
Apply screentone.
>inb4 you think the grass was actually drawn by hand.
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>>111121047
Is it really 3D if they are drawings?
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>>111121047
You have strange friends.
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>>111119593
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