What happened: http://pastebin.com/8HUEy9qE
Stuff still needed:
[Sakurai Energy] Genkin ni Karada wo Hare | Do it All for Cash (Comic X-EROS #11) [English] [thetsuuyaku]
Spreadsheet Form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1uZBCoqQ-KpicDNPC4qINL8O0uBW9FymQNg4m6PlliHw/viewform?usp=send_form
Spreadsheet Doc: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_I-QQ94x3EDwF7NwWa1xcOsp26wXBRxTIxPQTtiGN6A/edit
Compilation of Transparency
I still don't get why Jacob even cared to go after exhentai.
The people who sought for, registered, and learned how to access exhentai. Are not the folks who will take a step back and purchase h-manga when said channel goes offline.
Rather these people are more likely to, just like the first time, search down and learn how to access the material elsewhere.
That's like remodelling a specific parking lot, to prevent car theft. As if the people who steal cars would stop stealing cars and start purchasing all of them instead just because their preferred car lot was taken away.
The people on exhentai who pursued free h-manga, won't buy h-manga. Lots of people admittedly will, but they were never likely to be using exhentai to begin with.
The Fakku deal has the potential to be good. We're going to get lots of uncensored content, which is great since I don't want to see more of pic related.
It's likely that this latest Wani takedown was inevitable anyway. Sadpanda isn't exactly a secret, and it's not very difficult to discover that the takedown was just hidden behind a secret club since everyone talks about it.
>Fakku deal is great
>creators get nothing
>creators don't even know that someone makes money with their stuff
Just like CR its just american jews trying to make the big weeaboo bug.
Yeah, it has potential to be good. It's a fucking shame I don't want to pay for my hentai. The last time I paid for hentai I was 12, internet didn't exist in my country, and bought some hentai magazines that came with cds....shit was cash.
Guys, the Japanese purposely made enough content to last you 10 healthy reincarnations. Even if it somehow got restricted by its teeth you have enough stuff to download that's already on the Internet to last you that long, longer if you know how to read moon.
>Wani issues takedowns
>Fakku announces sole exclusive partnership with Wani shortly thereafter
It's really not hard to make the connection. People going
>BUT WHERE IS YOUR PROOF
You won't have to pay for it, because someone will torrent it and it'll be available for everyone.
Wani could have issued these takedown even if it never made a deal in the first place. It made the first set of takedowns before it anyway.
Try making an argument.
I have that one if it hasn't already been uploaded
So Daiz is also involved in this huh?
Looks like I get to update the list soon http://pastebin.com/cmx8Tat9
>I still don't get why Jacob even cared to go after exhentai.
Because he's a jew. When a jew sees free shit he doesn't think, "Oh wow, look at all this wonderful free stuff." like the rest of us.
He thinks, "How can I sell this free shit and crush any competition."
>Guys even though someone is jewing into stuff that was free before, it doesn't matter since you still have tons of old stuff!
I will never understand this argument. Support Fakku all you want, but don't post stupid shit like this.
People really think that the reason that the panda was good was because it was secret?
I'm just trying to be reasonable here.
I do believe that the Fakku deal made it more likely for Wani to issue takedowns, but it's delusional to think that Wani would have been kept in the dark about the not-so-secret club if Fakku never did this.
I'm a bit split on this. On one hand, with the recent upping of the censorship, it reached the level where it outright ruins shit. Just look at Uran's tank. So having the original, non-censored stuff will be great.
On the other hand, I'm not willing to pay for someone trying to collect jewgold for others' work. So I guess I'll keep buying the physical stuff in Kbooks and pirate the censorfree shit that will end up on the net anyway.
>I still don't get why Jacob even cared to go after exhentai.
Because they're competition. He's trying to eliminate all other sources of the product and make himself the sole vendor. By having a monopoly, he can charge whatever he wants and no one can do anything about it.
This is business 101.
No, you've got it all wrong.
>Wani issues takedowns to multiple sites
>Sadpanda puts X-EROS stuff in the super sekrit club
>Fakku takes down Wani stuff
>Fakku makes a deal with Wani to publish their shit in the west to avoid further copyright complications
>The takedowns from months ago finally take effect on Ex in the form of this fiasco
That's it. At least learn the facts instead of jumping on the "IT'DS HABBENING!" bandwagon.
I don't see any good shooting down, unless you think /pol/ tactics are actually valid arguments.
Again, I'm just being reasonable here. If the deal was never made with Fakku, Wani could still have made these takedowns. The secret club was never very secret, and it was a blatant defiance of the original takedown to say that it was removed but then have it just hidden.
Are you this retarded?
If Fakku decides to go all digital, all we need is ONE guy that rips all the digital shit in its uncensored glory and upload it somewhere.
And people upload stuff because they BUY THE FUCKING THING. Not everything comes with magic you entitled little shit.
I understand the paranoia but not everyone is a Fakku shill (though there do seem to be a good amount here). It has the potential to be good, yes. However it likely will never live up to that potential.
>new Kairakuten uploaded
>Range Murata picture downloaded
I got what I wanted
>I REALLY WANT TO PAY FOR SOMETHING WHICH IF DISCOVERED COULD RUIN MY LIFE
>I WANT TO HAVE A MONETARY RECORD OF BEING A HUMAN DEGENERATE AND YOURE ALL OVERREACTING
this is what you shills sound like
Over 9000 hours in MS Paint
>and it was a blatant defiance of the original takedown
Are you actually defending Wani for doing this? Enjoying paying money for your porn I guess. I'll still be going through other channels myself.
the only reason it works in japan is because it's all by cash at random stores which is essentially like buying a porn book at a local family mart. But pay by credit / debit / paypal and, if discovered, you dug yourself your own grave.
We need someone to make a Google Spreadsheet where we can add missing galleries so we can keep tabs on what we need in order to start the recovery process. Once someone does this, I will link to it in the pastebin. Thank you.
Isn't this hillarious? Like they just take away the innocence of just masturbating of drawing of japanese girls.
Today they make business of anything, why can't we just go back to the times when hentai was viewes as weird and stupid? I just want to blow my loads in piece.
Virgins were screaming more, when someone created a few threads there. For /a/ it isn't a big deal actually, because everyone is civilized to be able to use torrents.
But fakkufags have plans for them too.
>Fakku saw an opportunity to jew and they took it
Sure, use whatever retarded /pol/ terminology you need to wrap your mind around this simple turn of events. Whenever something happens that you don't like, it's DA JOOS fault, huh?
I want my free porn as much as anyone else, but I can tell when it's likely for an something to upset the content owner.
I mean what did people think would happen? They'd back down forever? Perhaps you should blame tenboro for taking down content so readily when he and his server aren't even in the USA.
I talked to Jacob and confirmed it myself, one of the advantages to being a fairly neutral party in the whole matter is that I can get a good outlook at both sides and come to my own conclusions. The artists, Fakku and the publishers each get a cut of the content sold, Jacob has been in contact directly with some pretty major artists as well, not just publishing companies. Do some research before you so ignorantly choose a single-sided bias without any hard evidence. Hentai publishers aren't the music publishers that we have in the western world, they do give a decent amount of their profits to the artists, and in this case, artists are getting a direct cut.
You know what I like about this? If all the popular artists get bought and no one uploads their stuff, it gives more new artists a chance to see their stuff uploaded more.
Not saying this shit is good in any way, but just new art can spice up things.
>murata will never draw full color uncensored lolis getting tenderly loved by their brother's thick veiny cock
Daiz you shitbag, watch out, because I'm right behind you and whenever you look back, I'll still be behind you and there will be nothing you can do about it, and when you least expect it, I'll strike. I'll strike hard and fast, I'll erase you and your shitty existance out of this world and save the sad panda. Mark my fucking words you baldhead, I. Will. Get you.
The logical thing that will happen is that Fakku runs a monopoly on certain publishers, but miscellaneous torrent sites will pop up with the content anyways. The downside is that we can't 'preview' the content and it will be more difficult to search for the keywords that we want, but I don't see Fakku making any more money from this. The people willing to actually pay for porn are already small and most will move on to other methods of distribution. The only people Fakku can jew are its already existing members.
But still, this is quite an inconvenience and stands as a testament to human greed and capitalism.
When I paid the 20bux to danbooru to be able to search loli, I sent it in via mail with no return address with cash along with a piece of paper with just my username on it.
I'm actually surprised they didn't just take the money without giving me the rights
>go to /h/ folder to see which of my favourite artist's doujins I need
>my oldest doujins were downloaded from FAKKU
paper qualityin english editions of h mango?
I recently got a couple from japan to see how they were in real life and it was surprisingly great.
Reminder: If you talk bad about Fakku or Jacob you are either a /pol/fag or a /b/tard.
Every true /a/non should support Fakkus pay2fap model and be happy about everything dying. Just like /a/ loves CR and streaming so much.
Someone before was looking for [MARUTA] Exhibitionist College Girl Series - Ch. 2
but it was at a site that required registration.
Here's chapters 1-3.
I'd sooner believe this than all the people who so adamantly say that artists will never see any profit from this deal.
Just how many Western readers will ever go through the hassle of finding a shipping proxy and pay to buy a doujin or manga? At least having it be easily purchaseable in the US will open up a market.
Do you realize, that this is sad panda what is shit, because they fear "legal" stuff like that? This is why i hate them. And yes, i do only use torrents to download fap content.
I don't even care if you're being sarcastic your post still makes me mad
This. It's a total scumbag move, but if you have artists/publisher names, you will still be able to get torrents. Just like how Crunchyroll's tiny userbase is just retards willing to get played.
Yeah, I guess I'm going to batch download from MEGA.
We should make it a law that someone cannot sit on an IP for more than five years without an option to purchase the material for more than one year, or it's acceptable to pirate for 'lack of legal acquistion means'.
This would force companies to compromise and make things they own obtainable in some form of digital distribution. If we can't stop the digital crackdown, then we can make it work for us.
>At least having it be easily purchaseable in the US will open up a market.
For ero-manga? No it won't. The 'market' as you put it will solely be in the hands of the Fakku community while everyone else will either be oblivious to ero-manga or are already picking them up from other free sites.
>This is business 101.
This is kikery 101. Real businesses do not resort to this kind of bullshit. If you have a good product, then that is all you need to establish yourself and take market share. People buy quality products without coercion even if there are cheaper alternatives. This is why there are billions of pay to view porn sites even though porn is the most common thing on the internet. But when you are being a hyper kike with 500% markup for no real reason, you need to eliminate all sources of 'competition'.
They won't stop going after the porn.
Obligatory "500% markup" post.
I regret figuring this out last night.
They've taken down some straight shota galleries
Jingrock is on the artist list
I figured faggots like you would realize we're ALL on the ride down
Both the implied and hard accusation that I am Jacob are wrong. I was in #fakku yesterday and I am a long standing member of the community.
I'm not the kind of shill that wants to jew everyone out of their money, I want to support open content as much as I can, but I also want to at least make some small effort to support whatever is legal as well, along with the artists producing the content I enjoy so much.
There's a cost to get the rights for releases, there's a cost to print them, there's a cost to translate them (typesetter, editor, translator, all being paid legal wages). Realistically, even at the "excessive" physical copy prices and the not-so-excessive digital prices, Jacob will have to sell a fairly good amount of copies to even break even on a single release.
You guys keep comparing the prices to shit you would find at Comiket, untranslated and censored, in the origin country. It's not a legitimate comparison and doesn't provide any decent backing to your arguments.
Like I said, most of you don't even know what's going on, you're jumping off cliffs into oceans of ignorant assumptions.
But those are my opinions and my word, don't take it as the truth and at least try to do some of your own research, maybe your opinion will stay the same, maybe it will change; either way, at least it will be an opinion brought on through intelligent conclusion, not mob mentality.
>This is kikery 101. Real businesses do not resort to this kind of bullshit.
Actually, they do. I'm as outraged by Jacob's bullshit as much as you, but stop being stupid.
Are you retarded? Is this really your first day on 4chan?
exactly as long as loli, trap, shotasand dark skin are safe the worls is fine
The funny thing is, these kids aren't doing the effort, they're trying to be middle men that have zero hand in anything.
They're not the owners, they're not the distributors, they're nothing but a bunch of leechers hoping for a huge cut.
Where's the 500% markup on the new Wani content? Keep in mind that they'll be translated and uncensored. The $30 doujins aren't really relevant since those are old store listings and imports.
>problem is most uncensored shit is shit because the nips are so use to covering up dicks and vaginas with little black bars that they rarely put effort into it.
That's the dumbest thing I've heard. Tiny black bars don't even cover anything up, so the original genitals are drawn pretty well. The terrible full censorship removes everything, but it's likely that original artwork was there in the first place and well done.
Sure they will.
I'm not an employee, I've just been participating in the community for a long time and know how things work. If any of you even knew Jacob in the slightest you would realize he is literally one of the laziest fucks in the world; when major site-breaking bugs occur, he plays TF2 and League instead of fixing them, shit takes weeks and even years to get done. He's not the mastermind jew you're making him out to be.
I can't take anyone who talks about "legal options" and white knighting a porn market seriously.
You can make it seem like you're legitimate and professional all you want, but 90% of the country would still molotov your house if they found out you were in league with what is essentially to them "drawn child pornography"
If you have stuff, especially if it's organized by artist or can be, drop in at #faggu on Rizon and query a halfop or op. A dude has a 1000/500 sftp server with 2TB of storage.
We also have a fair amount of stuff organized by artist that you might wanna look through.
I came to my own conclusions, if you look at the Fakku forums even members that have been around for years are flaky on just how capable Jacob is, we all came to our own conclusions.
tenboro's recent forum post:
There was a batch of additional notices from Wani that we had to act on. Due to their content I strongly suspect that someone was involved indirectly, but there was no direct contact from anyone else.
Yes, that is the express objective of all middle men. They always claim they are the good guys with arguments such as
>We want to spread awareness!
>We want to make things more open!
>We want to make it easier to bring you content!
But really, it's all about the $$$. We'd be fine without them, just like we always have.
What the fuck is the point in Sadpanda now when a great chunk of the artists I like are being culled left and right. While it doesn't affect me greatly at this very moment because I downloaded everything I like, it's going to have huge implications in the very near future.
Just where are future releases for these artists going to be uploaded?
>No Union Jack
It's almost like you're trying to alienate /britpol/.
Yesterday they came for the oculus.
Today they come for the vanilla doujins.
Tomorrow they'll come for our traps and shotas.
Will there be any resistance left by then?
Stop it now. (Also there is a fair amount of loli among that artist list. I know, I've been downloading all day.)
But it's true, there's no reason they would be the same price as the original japanese hmangas because they're not the same products. He has to buy the licences, has to print them, and has to hire typesetters/redrawers/translators and such. That's all extra costs.
Couldn't come up with a better concept so I just redrew it.
>The secret club was never very secret, and it was a blatant defiance of the original takedown to say that it was removed but then have it just hidden.
The organized concealment and defiance of the law by multiple staffers actually could qualify e-hentai under the RICO organized crime act. Organized concealment of illegal activity is one of the common charges under RICO.
RICO is powerful unlike "normal" laws because it allows seizure of even remotely related property. Did you conduct the RICO crime from your home? If yes, then your home can be seized and sold. Same with a car. A normal crime like a murder doesn't let the gov't seize and sell your home or car. I remember when a whole california ranch was seized (wow, a lot of property, crops, machinery, livestock, financial assets) because the owner got caught selling drugs while on his property.
>all my torrents have slowed down to 1995 speeds
I bet the jewcob got a hold of my ISP
>Hurts everyone in the community
>But him and the greedy publishers
This coming from someone who is upset over the fact that he might actually have to pay for porn for once in his life. You're the one being greedy.
Daily reminder that you only lose in this game when you surrender; there would be no real consequences from just telling Fakku and Wani to fuck off and taking some precautions in case they actually try something.
Well guess it's time to sit back with my massive stash and wait for Fakku to start selling translated manga.
which will all be then be uploaded to various torrent sites for free downloading. I look forward to the Fakku freeleech in the near future.
>bother to write all that shit
>"I-I just want their tears!"
>shit you would find at Comiket, untranslated and censored
Doujins at Comiket are already very expensive compared to normal manga. Even factoring translation the current price is way too high.
Considering facku probably won't redraw anything themselves but simply get the original raw before it gets censored according to Japanese laws it shouldn't add to the cost anything at all.
>I came to my own conclusions
Which are exactly in line with a staunch and overzealous drone eager to defend bad business practices. But whatever, have fun paying for your porn with the delusion that you operate under a 'professional' umbrella when in reality, the rest of the world will still look at you as the guy who sells cartoon porn.
Your nearest torrent site.
Don't worry. The FAKKU deal is untenable in the long run. Just gonna have to ride it out for a year or two with torrents.
Even then, specialist sites will probably arise to host all those artists sadpanda isn't allowed to.
>THEY ARE GETTING A CUT SO EVERYTHING IS FINE
no shit they get a cut. It's probably the same 50 yen that they get when a book sells in area 11. Meanwhile superfakikeu is making 25 dollars a book while doing 0 work, having a monopoly in a market he spent 0 effort marking.
You want to be geninue? Post the numbers. How much do they get.
Fakku owner about to get smacked the fuck up by some Tyrone
Not this meme again!!!
>?? = used
The jap one is USED! Stop misleading impressionable /a/udiences here who don't know a lick of jap!
>inb4 retail links written in moon. most impressionable /a/udiences and norm/a/l f/a/gs here can't read a lick of jap or even be bothered to set up proxy shipping address (jap retailers require foreign orders to set up japanese address). Because of the spaghetti process in acquiring doujins, normal ones /a/mong us would rather just pay more for convenience than study moon or read engrish translation on google of those jap links you posted.
>Anon doing god' work saving everything
Do we have a verified and complete list of all that is missing?
Have we archived everything that is missing?
The pastebin mentions titles that are missing. But the pastebin mentions not if it is everything that is missing.
What if he gets his brother Jamal to take care of that kike?
>Not taking the loss of Asuka hentai seriously
>It shouldn't add to the cost anything at all
>Hiring U.S. translation teams and paying them legal wages
>Acquiring the rights for each release
>Printing at the cost of U.S. print shops
I think you fail to realize that everything in Japan both costs less to print and that labour costs are drastically lower.
Yes, but them releasing the uncensored content makes it available for all of us. Without the deal, it would never have happened.
And I'd still say that these takedowns could still have happened without the Fakku deal. It was only inevitable that Wani would find out that the previous takedown was being disregarded by a lightly hidden "secret" club.
How's your vaults coming along anons
I've managed to save 90% of my favorited stuff before it got nuked, but I'm still trying to plow through the 40 gig torrent, but its being a right bitch to download
We laughed at the people who downloaded all their porn, and now its come to bite us
Fakku is gonna learn that hard way that the 4chan audience is not going to pay for porn. I've been getting free porn for over a decade, I'm not about to start paying for it. Well this will just lead to /h/ becoming active again for scanlators, where they directly post new works into threads and upload to various different sites/trackers. Eventually someone will either fill the void created by San Panda's unbridled cowardice and we'll all start using that. Hentai will go on friends. There is no need to panic.
Stop trying to make them use their brains. They're in mode full hivemind, muh free content even if people actually work to create it, or whatever the fuck else. Fakku is bad, but this part of /a/ is so fucking worse.
Stop being crossboard scum, /pol/tard
>This coming from someone who is upset over the fact that he might actually have to pay for porn for once in his life. You're the one being greedy.
He simply won't pay for the porn and fap to something else free, dumbass.
If this was 2007 someone would be well on their way to pulling a Mangatraders on Fakku and destroying everyones faith that their credit card information will be secure with Fakku, among other things.
>all my torrents blasting is slowing down my shitposting
Here it is for 627 yen new.
Here is the problem though. You have had people in the west be basically ignored in the ero-manga market for basically what is forever. So since they can't get physical copies without jumping through hoops galore or going to Japan they take what they can get. The community, at least translation wise, is grass roots. No company was gonna translate to English so we did it ourselves.
You talk about people in the west stealing but if we can't even get the product int he first place the artist was never going to see money anyway so its basically a victimless crime. If were talking about Japanese stealing online that's an entirely different story as they have access.
You can't expect people who have put in work to translate/decensor/localize shit and put it out for free to take shit lying down when you have conditioned them for what is basically 20+ years that they don't need to pay because they never have had to before because it's all digital. It's like having a tree that grows fruit enough for everybody all day everyday and the community takes care of it then some douchebag suddenly starts punching people in the face, takes their shit, chops off a part of the tree and says "Hey pay me for this shit, oh by the way its like 500% more expensive than Jimmy's tree down the street"
Fuck that noise.
new LO is up btw
>This coming from someone who is upset over the fact that he might actually have to pay for porn for once in his life.
He'll just do like every smart person is: fap to something else or get it from a different source.
You act like /a/ likes Crunchyroll.
>tfw it's saved to H:/Bombshelter
I have a bunch of napata and hisasi saved from before, but that was it. I've learned the error of my ways.
>whine about kikes
I rather whine about the kikes on /a/. Daiz and Jacob need to be stopped.
>You can't just wait a mere 10 seconds for each time a browsing session?
I can't, I open many images at once from the search and have to deal with dozens of these fucking pages instead of directly seeing the images.
>Without the deal, it would never have happened.
But without the deal, we'd still get tons of content for free with minor censor bars. Now, we have to pay for everything and very high prices.
>BUT THE COSTS OF IMPORTS/TRANSLATING/ETC.
Post the actual numbers and don't speculate.
>And I'd still say that these takedowns could still
You could, but you wouldn't be able to prove it otherwise. The end fact is: this hurts the community more overall. It won't bring positive attention to the community, it won't grow the community; all it will do is put more money in the pockets of Jacob and measly sums in Japan.
It was never free, it was being illegally scanned, uploaded and shared, then translated by fans. Do you even understand how copyright laws work in the U.S. or Japan? You're greedy, get over it and admit you just want free porn even if it means hurting the artists producing it.
Stop with that stupid meme. /pol/ doesn't do anything except whine about kikes and degeneracy. They're all a bunch of beta normalfags upset because white women are fucking niggers.
I take it seriously, what it bothers me is how this issue has become a excuse for /pol/ and /stormfront/ crossboarders to shitpost here, making all these shitty flags/emblems/whatever and "le funny merchant" memes, having a laugh and pissing themselves over this fucking deal.
In the end, they don't give a fuck and will eventually leave to shit another board up over something else and I'll be left without my chinese porn.
Reminder that these threads have gotten hijacked by /pol/ and other boards trying to sell their message.