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Is Grisaia no Kajitsu a good VN

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Is Grisaia no Kajitsu a good VN
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>>110920892
It's a controversial topic.

The common route is probably the best part, but a lot of people don't like it since it's very long and it's a series of slice-of-life skits without too much cohesion.

Best girl and best route is controversial too, but I think most can agree with me when I say Mitcher is best girl. That's why she's getting her own spin-off series.

http://frontwing.jp/general_product/mgm/_image/download/video/02_op.mp4
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Sachi pls
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It's pretty good, nothing amazingly special. Michiru a best
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It's entertaining, nothing more.
Doesn't help that the character reoutes are garbage.
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>>110921315
>>110921599
Bakas can't be best girl.
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>>110920892
the common route is tedious as fuck but it starts picking up once you start doing each girl's individual route's
>>110921315
Agreed on Michi being best girl but Amane/Yumiko have best route's
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>>110920892
>Is Grisaia no Kajitsu a good VN
No.

It's a good common route but everything else is shit.
Girls are okay but more fetish oriented than actual characters.
If somewhere were to hate the Common route, it has little to offer.

It's the new entry level VN for newfags imo.
Decent but not to the extent where people obsessed over it.
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>>110921904
Yes they can.
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>>110921978
if someone*
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>>110920892
No, But I like all characters they are fun
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>>110920892
yes.
yes it is.
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>>110922140
No, no it isn't.
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>Acher will never be your cocksleeve

why live ;_;
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Anime soon. I don't care if it's shit. I will enjoy the fuck out of it.
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>>110920892
Yeah. I would say it's among the top 10 best translated VNs.
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>>110922286
Common route won't work in anime format, we all know this but no one says it.
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It's pretty damn boring, at least the first part.

More than 5 hours talking about nothing,oh and some tits, for 1 minute.
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>good
>VN
pick one
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>>110920892
It's fine.
Currently starting out frigid bitch's route so I can finally move onto the rest of my VN backlog.

Also, Kazuki best girl.
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>>110920892
I really enjoyed the routes I've read. (Michiru, Sachi, Yumiko)
It's not perfect, but the character writing is good enough and the characters themselves are interesting enough to hold the weight of each route.
People get annoyed over how much it's praised, and that's reasonable I suppose, but it's important to understand that the translated VN scene isn't exactly saturated with great stuff.
I enjoyed it a whole lot. I'm not overly optimistic about the anime, but I'll watch it just to see Juicy Yuuji animated.
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>>110922725
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>>110922911

What?
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>>110922216
>You will never do heroin with A-nee
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>>110922911
I was waiting for that.
Thank you, anon.
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>>110921516
It's really surreal how she goes from obedient to snide in a matter of seconds. Sachi is truly, a best.
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Sequels are better.

Millie best girl.
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>>110922725
Yumiko begging for kisses and cuddles after rough sex gave me the biggest heartboner.
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Trailer for anime when?
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>>110922986
>and Yuuji claims to be anti-social at the start of her route
I can't even pretend to be anywhere as good as the guy. He never runs out of punchlines.
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>>110922641
>Kazuki best girl.
With the amount of information you have, this is a natural conclusion. However, this is incorrect. Yuuji's master is best girl.
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>>110923007
Who is it gonna be by again? Also I can't wait to hear Juicy's voice
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>People hating on Grisaia now
How? Not even /v/ or /mu/ are this contrarian.

One of my all time favorite vns. It never fails to make me laugh. Comedy is more important than the sex scenes, even. I haven't fapped much to it since I've gotten so emotionally invested in the characters, I couldn't possibly fap to them getting dicked minus Sachi and Amane, who are just too sexy.

It's one of the longest games I've ever played through, I'll give it that, but it's not bad. Being longer than Xenoblade isn't a bad thing. I've definitely played longer VN's before, especially pic related. The more content the merrier, especially when the content is thoroughly good.

Characters have their faults, so they're not just authors wanking it over their creations. Yuuji isn't as powerful as many cocksuckers tend to think he is. He's a relatively powerless VN mc, especially compared to people like Wilfred Dion.
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Hopefully the original cast reprises their roles.
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>>110923209
8-bit.
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>>110922973
>obsessive town bike
>best girl
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>>110923260
>the ones that did IS
Oh boy

>>110923259
>Yumiko is Kurugaya
>Sachi is Sumika
Why do these fit so well
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>>110923259
I would be okay with an anime original segment where Chiwa Saito voices Sakaki for a couple of minutes.
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So why is there no principal Tachibana route?
She also has a few screws loose. She'd fit in real well.
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>>110923474
Are you trying to imply that Watanabe reuses some character designs? Because that would be disingenuous.
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>>110923496
The plot wouldn't work out as well. But don't worry, you'll get plenty of non-canon Printcher route scenes in the sequels.
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>>110923236
>Yuuji isn't as powerful

He routinely beats the crap out of multiple groups of grown men, he is the best soldier in his entire super secret awesome spec ops force, and he makes sniper shots which the other characters describe as not physically possible. He outsmarts giants of industry, he repairs psychological damage years of professional therapy could not, and all while maintaining the super cool emo self hate of "even though I'm such a piece of shit, I still do all this cool stuff. God I hate myself so much". He is a total shitty self insert.

Grisaia isn't the worst VN by any means, but it is far from being good, let alone great. Spewing random nonsense about /v/ isn't going to get anywhere
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>>110922973
>Sequels are better.
some of us aren't from space anon and not all of us have the strength of will to become astronauts
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Has there ever been a Yuuji as juicy as Juicy Yuuji?
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>>110923579
I'm not sure.
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>>110924021
goddamn she has a horrible case of manface in some of the CGs
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>>110923959
Has there ever been a less funny joke than juicy yuuji?
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>>110920892
I really enjoyed Grisaia a lot, and despite the vocal backlash from the popularity I don't give a shit and it hasn't changed my opinion. I haven't played a ton of VNs, but Grisaia is far from the first and I consider it a cut above a lot of other VNs.

>>110923598
>He is a total shitty self insert.

Come on, he's certainly above the bar compared to what one would expect for an agent or whatever, but he's certainly not a good self insert.

He's self loathing like you said, and the fucker needs help from JB and her connections to do anything serious. In just about every route, he'd have been fucked if not for JB's help. Especially when it came to Yumiko's father.

I'll give you the fact that his brand of "therapy" is quite out there, but then we wouldn't have much of a conflict in the game, would we?
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>>110924124
Everyone is prone to an age variance of like +-10 years.
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some of the lengths this guy goes to to help the girls is pretty crazy. the choice at the end of sachi's route had me stunned for a bit.
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>>110924258

He has every cool trait in the book. Even though he has a tragic past, he still manages to be the best at all kinds of things and to accomplish everything he tries. Rules don't apply to Yuuji and the other characters in the story are only there to praise him and make him look good by comparison; anyone who dislikes him is treated as an obvious villain.

Granted, he might not be as extreme as the main character from Mahouka, but the author was clearly channeling his desires when he wrote Yuuji. He is without a doubt the least interesting/worst character of the entire VN
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So has there been a trailer for the anime yet?
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>>110923496
There's bonus like >>110923594 said, but I totally agree. I'm sure she'd have a very sweet route. Christmas Cake + glasses + high-pitch voice is like some sort of god send.

In the sequels, do they ever mention why she owes Yuuji the favor that got him into the school, or is it just never brought up and left to the imagination?
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Can anyone recommend me some good lengthy vns?
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>>110924414
Mitcher's was where he went full retard with his choices.
Holy hell that was 3 days man.
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>>110924547
how the fuck did she even survive three days without water?
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Does anyone got the WEG from Grisaia? I'm sure I saved it but for some reason I can't find it anywhere.
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>>110925035
>>110924547
spoilers for the people who haven't read it yet guys...
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>>110924541
Kamidori Alchemy Meister if you're okay with gameplay.
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>>110922529
Fuck off, /lit/. You clearly haven't read good VNs like Ever 17 and everything else in the Infinity series.
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>>110921978
It has a pretty damn good translation though, and is pretty humorous. There really aren't that many english VN's done that well.
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>>110925097
Kamidori is buggy as all hell, the gameplay is mediocre and full of filler, the CG is barely acceptable, and the writing is shit. I wouldn't wish it upon anybody, even some entitled fuck who thinks /a/ should spoonfeed him.
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>>110925195
/lit/ doesn't even like good books. Most of them are liberals/SJWs as well.
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>>110924541
Steins;Gate
Fate/Stay Night
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>>110924541
Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo is quite a good read
Or...maybe get into the muv luv series? thats really lengthy and great
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>>110925302
>is buggy as hell
Never encountered one, nor met someone who did before you started spewing shit. Are you having troubles getting it running? You could alleviate all those problems by... buying the damned game.

>The gameplay is mediocre
Jesus Christ, your taste is shit. It's a better version of Fire Emblem/FFTactics gameplay. SRPG is one of the most fun genres out there, especially when it's well balanced

>Filler
Animations got annoying, yes, one of my few complaints. It makes farming exceptionally annoying when there are enemies that refuse to get one-shot.
>CG is barely acceptable
A little over the top in the designs, yes, but not bad by any stretch. Could've been better, but it has a nice flavor
>Writing is shit
Yeah, nah. Characters didn't have as much depth, but there are like 20 playable characters. Suina is a good example of one with a good deal of backstory and character, but her events are timed, so you can end up never seeing them.

It's a 8.5/10. Get out of here, faggot. Stop spewing shit like you actually played through the game and didn't quit a few hours in.
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>>110924541
Ever 17, Remember 11, Rewrite
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>>110924541

If you can read moon, go with Baldr Sky.

I just hit 100 hours tonight and I still have 2 and 1/2 routes left to read. Also it has gameplay and it's a fucking blast to read.
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>>110925302
Why do you hate fun?
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>>110925448
30-50 hour VN's aren't lengthy. They're simply above average in length.

[email protected] is a 30-50 VN that barely manages to top the word requirement for NaNoWriMo. I write novels that are just as long in a month, for fun.
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>>110925525
more like 7.5 the gameplay gets extremely repetitive since you have to play through the game three times for all routes
CGs aren't very good for the most part
Writing is boring for the most part
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>>110925525
I liked Kamidori but it's only good for 1 playthough in my opinion.
>>110925636
Either way it's still a good read,unless you prefer the very long ones?
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>>110923301
Yeah, fuck Millie. Everyone knows the Captain is the superior girl.
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>>110925655
Nigga, I played into NG+ and post game. Gameplay was fun as fuck. SRPG is still one of my favorite single-player genres, right next to 2d Platformers like Megaman. I'm cruising for a bruising, and Kamidori gave me a good one. I had fun the whole way through.

I've put in over 2000 hours in Terraria, so the nearly 900 hours it took me to 100% Kamidori aren't too outrageous. Keep in mind that people who find that gameplay fun will like the game.

>>110925703
>Rereading the 3 main routes in Kamidori
WHY.jpg
Just continue into the post game. It doesn't get so stale when you have new challenges to surmount.
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>>110925703
I'm not him, by the way. I'm just saying that 50k isn't very long. Very long should provide enough content that you can read it alongside someone playing Xenoblade Chronicles and not be waiting for him to finish.

Xenoblade anime when?
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>>110925806
I only read 1 route.
I tried doing another playthough for a different route but i was getting bored of doing the same stuff over again, even in NG+ i didn't get the same feel of accomplishment going up the ranks anymore.
>>110925903
That's fair enough, i know there is longer but for people who are just getting into VNs it would be long enough.never ;_;
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>>110925525
I had no problem getting it running, but it was one of those programs so buggy that it interferes with other programs you have running.

The gameplay is identical to a huge line of SRPGs, except the skill timing is paced out over a much larger time so they wear out their welcome hours before your get new ones, and maps aren't randomly generated. Theoretically human-designed should make up in quality what they lack in variety, but they don't.

>Generic high fantasy with a large cast of cliches makes for good writing.
I cringed less at the writing in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.

>Stop spewing shit like you actually played through the game and didn't quit a few hours in.
The ~5 hours I gave that pile of shit was more than it deserved.
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>>110926125
I guess it'd be good for those getting into the genre. Still, those that want longer VN's probably want something hitting 75k+ words.

The fact that I can write a 30-50 hour long novel in a month means that it isn't very long. Given, NaNoWriMo doesn't give you any time for editing until after you submit, but it's still a fun exercise.

Also, I went through 2 routes of Kamidori + post-game, and I had a blast with it as well. Given, my taste in games and books aren't exactly the norm, but even then, I think most people would find it fun. I'll admit that I'd rather be playing MK8 with my little sister and brother, but Kamidori isn't a bad alternative.
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>>110925195

There are very few eroge with proper literary merit that have even been translated in the first place, so most people in the west will never really know what's out there and what the medium can do. All of the really good stuff will most likely forever remain in Japanese because those works are simply too difficult for anybody in the fan translation scene to pull off, and I'm personally OK with that after seeing how badly Ixrec fucked up Cross Channel.

I would love to see someone try to translate a title like Dies Irae and keep even half of the nuance of the original writing intact. A great deal of information seems impossible to carry over into English.
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>>110925082
Anyone?
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>>110920892
People say it's good because babbies first eroge
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>>110926260
>Gameplay is identical to games identical to it
No shit, Sherlock. What Kamidori did, though, was add much more complexity into the mix. There were tons of different stats you had to keep track of, especially since the game gets ridiculously hard at points, and you can be reduced to save-scumming because you didn't equip right.

>Implying "generic high fantasy" can't make for decent writing
>Large cast of cliches
Tell, me, outside of Castlevania Aria of Sorrow, when's the last time you've seen an Ondine, specifically one that isn't a violent asshole? You do know that Suina goes against all the cliches of her "archetype", right?

Same with most of the other characters. Elizislayn and Melodiana were pretty well written. Uya was extremely well written, and is one of my favorite characters in any SRPG, where as Kohakuren is overly cliched, but she still brings something new to the table (specifically her relationship with Uya and that dead fox-skull).

You can't expect characters to get fleshed out in a 150 hour game in 5 hours. You played through 1/30th of a normal playthrough and think you know all there is to know about the game.
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I just recently started this. I read somewhere that the bad ends are important in some way to the story, but I really dislike bad ends. Do I have to read them?
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>>110926936

Only Amane's.
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>>110920892
Not at all. It's almost like someone was trying to make fun of awful writing and shitty characters, except it's played completely straight. I don't understand how anyone could like it unironically.
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>>110926936
The only bad end that matters is Mitcher and that loli who's name I can't remember yet has the same voice as Rin from LB.
The rest, well, aren't worth it.

>>110927003
Amane's bad end is stupid but it's a nice idea.
Everything else about it though is shit.
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So, Yuuji put his dick in his master, right?
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>>110927195
He puts his dick in everything.
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>>110926936
i stayed away from the bad ends so i have no idea
bad endings scare me
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>>110927195
She was his first.

Then he did JB. The reason there's no JB route is because he's already been there.
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>>110926936
>>110927284
I like VNs because of bad endings. Seeing how everything could go wrong makes your good ending that much nicer.
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>>110927284
You should, a bad end left me traumatized for 2 months once. I was shaking uncontrollably for 2 hours after the aftermath.
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>>110927284
Me too. I probably wont read them either unless it is absolutely necessary, which it doesn't sounds like it is given the two different responses.
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>>110927133

Amane's bad end has information regarding the sequels which is why I said it needed to be read. Michiru's was also pretty fucked up.
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>>110926471
>minor contradictions to D&D lore make a writing good and characters original
>conveniently forget to mention the cheesy lines that it the game shoves down your throat every other cutscene

>spend the enough time to complete some AAA action games playing Kamidori
>you don't know enough about it to judge it yet

>having to save scum isn't imbalance, it's a feature!

It's not wrong for you to enjoy this sort of thing, but realize you are an anomaly and that telling other people to play Kamidori is cruel if you don't know their tastes.

>>110927195
On a daily basis for years.
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>>110927413
Like it matters.
The bad end, other than that sequel tease, is shit.

Michiru was pretty fucked up, but like another anon said, it's weird that Yuuji even gave a shit to be that emotionally fucked by it considering he never gave a shit about anything.
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>>110927369
I just want to be happy
>>110927376
I don't want to be traumatized ;_;
>>110927362
I think i misssed that, when was that explained?
>>110927413
I accidentally once got the bad ending for Makinai shot her mum
when i realised it was the bad ending i quit like a mofo and went back to a save....i was still sad
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>>110927578
>I think i misssed that, when was that explained?
Sequel.
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>>110927601
Is that even in English yet?
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>>110927637

No, and it won't be for literally years.
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'merika

Does Yuuji get laid with the merikan girls?
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>>110927675
I thought the translation was going at a decent rate, what happened?
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>>110927686
Each has their own bonus scene. I could see Millie's scene happening, but they're lumped with the rest of the non-canon ones.

>>110927720
The translator got hired to work on a commercial project.
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>>110927675
>>110927781
that's a shame, i was quite happy hearing it was getting translated.
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>>110922216
Yuuji and Amane's interactions are godly. She doesn't mind being seen naked and he doesn't care if he sees her naked.

WHERE ELSE DO YOU SEE THIS KIND OF INTERACTION? FUCK ME JAPAN DO I HAVE TO SELL MY KIDNEYS FOR THIS?

i seriously would
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>>110927720

koestl is getting paid to translate http://vndb.org/v11033 for MangaGamer. Grisaia is on hold indefinitely.
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>Mitchers route
>Yuuji is a complete asshole
>Yumiko's route
>Yuuji is a complete white knight

I don't mind character development, but they could have at least kept his character consistent.
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>>110926936
Everyone has already pointed out Amane's, but I just want to say Makina's is pretty fucked up, but worth it for the laughs after you get over how disturbing it is.

Funny thing is, I initially got the good end for Makina, mistook it for the bad end, and went back for the other choice. Jesus, only then did I realize how wrong I was.
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>>110927812
You know why she was doing that?
using her body to get closer to him it's not that she doesn't care, she hates herself and wants to be loved.
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>>110927821
That's what his project was? If this is confirmed I'm okay with waiting. I really like the Shiei no Sona-Nyl series and apparently this one is supposed to have fixed a lot of issues the others have.
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So what route order should I go with? I like Makina and Sachi the best so I think I will probably save them for last.
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Suou Amane's a bitch in heat~
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>>110927781
Millie's scene is kinda possible, but I see no way he could have nailed the captain.
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>>110927964
It doesn't really matter imo, whatever order you want.
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Don't get me wrong, Angelic Howl was really engaging, but when you look back on it, those girls were really stupid. Isn't it common to teach children basic survival knowledge? It was painful.
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>>110927821
That actually looks pretty kool
I'd prefer the Grisaia sequel though
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>>110927961

It's been confirmed by both the company and koestl.

Also, it's the What a Beautiful series. Shiei no Sona-Nyl is a game within that series. Make sure to actually buy Gakhthun when it comes out, more professional translations of real deal VNs would be a good thing.
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>>110927964
Yumiko's route is a good one to start with. It answers a lot of questions that bug you from the beginning of the novel.
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>>110928086
And here I was trying to be cool by looking up the proper series name, but yes, more Koestl-quality translations would be very much welcome.
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>>110927964
>>110928116

>Yumiko's route is a good one to start with. It answers a lot of questions that bug you from the beginning of the novel.
this
But after that just do whatever.
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>>110927964
Save Sachi for last. I would not recommend Makina's route last if you want the last route to be satisfying. I say this not because of the storyline itself, but only because it's very polarizing. Before the game got popular here, I remember a couple other sites praising Makina's route as the best, but in the threads here at the time of translation, not many people agreed at all, myself included.

The other routes, not quite so much. I don't think anyone could not feel some sadness for what Sachi went through. I liked her route very much.
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>>110928336
Thanks for the tip. I'll probably do Yumiko, Michiru, Amane, Makina, then Sachi's route.
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>>110928512
Good, do michirus early and get it over with.
I really disliked her, but that's just me a lot of others liked her it seems.
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>>110928336
Makina's route was not the best, but it taught me how to make a dust bomb, so I'm alright with spending however many hours I spent reading it. I still consider it average though.
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>>110927846
If I'm remembering correctly there wasn't even a single time Yuuji mentioned that he's inlove with Mitcher in her route. Just another thing I found strange. He outright says he is to whoever's route you're following besides her.

Poor Mitcher.
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>>110928709
That's because nobody can love a retard.

inb4 it's just a learning disability
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>>110928709
Mitcher is an Autistic weirdo that talks to aliens when dying her hair
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>>110928672
I would of liked it better if it wasn't sexual or romantic but instead just father like the whole way through
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>>110928872
That was actually one of the things that bothered me. It felt really weird to have him be her father and fuck her at the same time
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>>110928872
>>110928945
Yuuji has that "itch" he needs to take care of
I was a little weirded out at first also but they changed their relationship from family to lovers...
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>>110928945
Incest feels right at times.
Just some times...
I was expecting Leon.
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>>110929030
>>110929051
It feels right at times, but this was not one of them in my opinion.

Also, fuck, why did Makina have to pee all over him their first time? And Amane too?
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>>110929160
When girls don't have much experience, before they orgasm they " feel" like they need to pee
and sometimes they do pee cause of it
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>>110929160

welcome to eroge, this happens in at least half of the h-scenes

you learn to love it
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>>110929160
Well, Makkna is a little girl and perhaps not knowing what to expect from an orgasm she lost it.

Amane, I she's just into water sports.
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>>110929315
>Makina
>I guess
Jesus, fuck, I need to sleep.
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I always end up skipping the sex scenes since I always thought it was a waste of time.
Holy shit. Were there other moments like this I've been missing?
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>>110925591
Why isn't anyone translating this?
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>>110930103
People tried, then gave up because it was too hard.
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>>110930103

Because it's fucking huge and would require a lot of effort to actually pull off, despite not being very difficult to read in Japanese. Futsuu gave up on it some time back, but he might get back to it at some point. I wouldn't expect to see a full patch released before 2016, if at all.
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>>110929942
the sex scenes in Girsaia are actually pretty good
can be a bit lengthy though
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>>110930297
Are his arms made out of chainsaws?
Or are his his hands/arms hidden by the cloth?
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>>110927812
That masturbation scene, though. I laughed my ass off.
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>>110920892
Going to be alot better then the anime.
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>>110923236
>How? Not even /v/ or /mu/ are this contrarian.
Oh please, even people from the VN general agree that it is mediocre and only worth reading for Yuuji's antics and the common route.
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>>110930598

No, no, his arms are actually made out of chainsaws. Not all the time though.
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What I could get from some of the posts here is that this one is not very heavy in plot but the character interactions can be fun to read, like Majikoi, huh? So what is it like compared to Majikoi in humors, characters, girls, etc?
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>>110931407
It's better than Majikoi.
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>>110931407
It's completely different to majikoi you dope
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>>110931407
Don't compare apples and oranges. I personally enjoyed Majikoi a lot more. Grisaia got tedious after the first 10 hours.
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>>110934103
Majikoi had shit main girls, though. Generic blonde tsundere, dominant onee-san who turns into a little bitch after 2 seconds with the D, yandere with a route so shit nobody bothered translating it, and a retarded puppy.

Yukie and Matsukaze were the only saving grace when it came to the main girls. I'm sure the sequel is better given there's more of the other girls who aren't as bland.
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>>110920892
7/10 is ok
The anime will be shit though.
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Mitcher a best
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>>110922529
VNs are better than anime.
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>>110926349
>mfw I will never know moon well enough to read this
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>>110923598
Sasuga Otouto.
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>>110920892
MC is god tier and hilarious as fuck
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>>110920892
Well I tried. I have short cringemeter and it definitely past the highest point.
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>>110938814
I bet you didn't like mom joke.
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>>110923074
He's anti-social because he's insensitive, not because he's slow-witted like you or I.
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Considering GnK doesn't have a true end, how does the sequel start?
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>>110923598
He sounds like another Mary Sue character, but only he doesn't have magic or super powers.
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>>110923259
Mitcher being voiced by anybody but Kaori Mizuhashi would be absolute heresy.
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>>110938885
He helped them all without(?) dicking. The final end is a harem end but we know that Michiru won.
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>>110938885
It goes off a route where all the girls get their traumas solved offscreen.
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>>110936788
Lewd, she is the best tho.
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>>110938866
Now that's where you're wrong, jim.
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Yumiko being nice makes me melt.
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>>110923598
>Self-inserting as Yuuji

I don't think that's even possible. I think you're overestimating people's self-esteem here. None of us can match up to Yuuji.
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>>110920892
Well you did casually talked to the person you met for the first time like you already know them for a long time. Even if they're not normal people, that situation was and still doesn't make any sense.

You know, why don't they just do what the first time people met do? I bet if it wasn't the MC, they won't accept it easily.
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It's pretty funny. One of the few VNs that have made me laugh often while reading it.
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>>110923598
>he repairs psychological damage years of professional therapy could not
Because locking yourself in a closet and scratching words onto the walls with your fingernails is perfectly sane.
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>>110939046
I downloaded the VN for the cute girls, stayed for Yuuji's wittiness.

Seriously, the girls are mediocre, there's no way I could've finished it if the MC wasn't so based
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>>110939194
>>Seriously, the girls are mediocre,
You have shit taste if you don't at least like Mitcher and Satcher.
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>>110939046
I can self-insert as almost anyone. Male or female, young or old, as long as the character isn't completely stupid.
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It was a pretty awesome VN. I played it after Majikoi and someone told me that it would sate my need for amusing, comfy VNs

I think I ultimately prefered Majikoi but this was also high tier.
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>>110938949
>only girl dumb enough to forget contraception
>winner
I mean, I guess she's the winner of getting teen pregnant while her boyfriend is dicking five other girls.
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>>110939224
>not mentioning Matcher
You too.
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>>110921315
Michiru's route was the biggest disappointment I had with Grisaia.

Initially I went into Grisaia with my eyes on Michiru, as I shamefully had shaped myself a bit of an opinion based on previewed CGs and voice samples.

But really. Things were quite fine and dandy until I realized that the cell-memory thing wasn't just Michiru's belief/theory. But an actual thing
And it only went downhill from there.
The whole thing about being underground for several days wasn't quite the smoothest executed segment in the story either.
And while they did proper backstory and explanations for it, her mask and whacky antics while endearing at first, did wear me out a bit by the end and I was a bit disappointed we didn't get to see more sides of her more.

I like Michiru. And I wanted to like her more. But as far as my impressions of her and her route she sadly doesn't compete.
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>>110939271
What did you expect from a literal retard?
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>>110939267
Sorry, I'm not into dating 10 year olds.
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>>110939046
Yuuji is actually an interesting character. He's not over the top overpower character that has magic or super powers. All the abilities he has make sense and he goes through a lot of training even if he does emo out as fuck like in Makina's route where he keeps constantly going on about his demon hand.

He's not some happy go fag he's a logical and realistic person that knows what he has to do to get things down instead of wishful thinking.

Though the only thing I don't get is why do all the girls fall for him? Amane I know why due to feeling guilt for Kazuki, but the rest I don't get it. Hell, Yuuji is a complete ass to Micharu and she still ends up falling in love with him even though they have zero chemistry and there wasn't a bit of romance at all in her route.
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>>110939271
>But really. Things were quite fine and dandy until I realized that the cell-memory thing wasn't just Michiru's belief/theory. But an actual thing
A lot of people seem to have a problem with that.

It bothered me too, at the time, but looking back on it, I don't mind it so much. There are plenty of things that we don't yet have explanations for, so I don't mind them being a little creative and coming up with some bizarre medical miracle that's supposed to seem weird and impossible. If they'd used something that was actually proven to exist and explained, then it wouldn't have the same effect.
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>>110939303
But it was a literal example of 'hurr i was only pretending to be retarded'.
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>>110939368
Except for the part where she was so stupid a parade of tutors was unable to teach her anything and she wanted to kill herself because her split personality was better than she was. The biggest disappointment in Mitcher's route was that her alternate personality didn't take over for good.
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>>110939343
Because they're sex-starved high school girls and he is the only boy close to their age they've had any contact with for years. With Makina she didn't fall for him at first, it was more of a weird father complex thing. With sachi, she was his childhood friend. With Sakaki, he kind of won her over in the common route. As for Mitcher, she's just a regular high school girl who wanted to date a boy.
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>>110939428
Did they not go to schools that had boys in it before they came to the academy?
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>>110939368
What? She was actually fucking retarded, though. She's emotional sensitive enough to help people out, but she's still a baka.

>>110939357
I guess I was too used to Keyshit to even care about magic illnesses in games. It's a series where the MC fights a fucking evil clone in the last game and is the best soldier ever despite being a teenager.
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>>110939469
Yeah, but most of them were at that academy for at least a year, and that's a third of their high school life.
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Best route: Makina
Best girls: Mitcher and Satcher
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>>110939469
Imagine if you need to a year without any regular contact with any decently attractive member of the opposite sex. Now imagine someone super hot moved into your dorm and you started to see them every day. Now they're the only one around. People are going to be tempted to make a move even if that person is kind of a dick.
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>>110939496
>>110939581

Still defies any logic. Just because one guy comes to your school doesn't mean you suddenly jump on his dick and the common route doesn't add anything at all as to why the girls would even like him in LESS THAN A YEAR NO LESS TOO.

>>110939368
She was a retard though. Did you miss the long ass flashback where she was trying to learn things but couldn't grasp any of the subjects?
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So, I was looking at the Meikyuu/Rakuen CGs and I have a question. Did Yuuji's mother really suck his dick?
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>>110939612
Bonus scene. Not canon. Hot as fuck though.
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>I want a present, Yuuji
>HERE MICHIRU HAVE SOME ROCKS
>T-Thanks
Why is Yuuji such an asshole?
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>>110939598
>>Still defies any logic. Just because one guy comes to your school doesn't mean you suddenly jump on his dick and the common route doesn't add anything at all as to why the girls would even like him in LESS THAN A YEAR NO LESS TOO.
This is a fucking VN. It's 100% expected for every girl to wet her fucking panties for the MC at first sight. What made you think this would be something even vaguely realistic? Was it the child soldier MC? Was it the cliche harem setting of "only boy at all-girl school"?

This is like going nuts because tsunderes don't exist in the real world. Why the fuck do half of the JAPANESE SCHOOLGIRLS not have black hair? Barring Mitcher of course, she dyes it.
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>>110939598
He's handsome, fit, witty, charismatic and the ONLY GUY IN SCHOOL. This is not rocket science.

>LESS THAN A YEAR NO LESS TOO

Because teenagers usually wait years before they decide they're attracted to a person right?
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>>110939409
I was talking about her antics in school, not that learning bullshit in flashbacks.
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>>110939660
Mitcher is the kind of idiot who wears her heart on her sleeve and would just spend every waking second clinging to Yuuji if he didn't set up some boundaries. Yuuji doesn't know how to deal with this shit, and thinks that Mitcher is more in love with the idea of being in love rather than actually liking him. Plus he's a fucking nutjob who wants to kill himself because of how edgy he is.
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Who is going to voice Yuuji? Yuichi Nakamura?
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>>110939598
Amane latched onto him out of a sense of duty for his sister.
Sachi already knew him and was in love with him years before the start of the VN.
Mitcher is a retard whose best role model was a prostitute so of course she's going to be a dumb slut.
Makina was particularly fucked in the head and looking for a protector, not a boyfriend and did what she needed to to secure it.
Sakaki had been deprived of any sort of decent human relationship for her entire life and then she still spent over a year before she fully started dating and boning Yuuji.
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>>110939702
Women do not just have sex with a guy in that time frame unless they're sluts which only Amane fits that bill.

>>110939678
I wanted some fucking romance in it. Least that would make sense as to why the girls like him but nope we didn't get any of that except for Sachi(Which is why she is best grill)
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>>110939837
Then they're all sluts by your definition. Who cares? I bet you're an MRA
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>>110939837
There was some romance in Yumiko's route as well. The only routes where I could see that Yuuji was actually in love with the girl were Yumiko's and Sachi's.
And Sachi is indeed the best Grisaia.
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