make money off your 3D work

xxx

>>550693
You can try to rig them.
And, end up in the credits of a FPS game.
Ask "hyper" for that.

>>550694
i wouldn't even mind doing porn. I do a bit of sexy character art anyway. But I have no idea how to put myself out there for that kind of work since I've never done porn and don't have a following for it.

>>550696
Probably not all that different from Instagram networking. Set up your profile, like a Tumblr, and comment (reblog with a comment) on other people's work and eventually someone will check you out. Also tagging, but unfortunately the default search on Tumblr is this search enginey method that looks for words in posts and not just tags and NSFW blogs don't show up in that search, they only show up in /tagged/soandso searches. And you have to set your blog as NSFW if it's NSFW, or else you get deleted. Could also use an Instagram of tamer renders and put up links to each profile, lots of info on how to get popular on Instagram.

Then you can put your commission info / Patreon / whatever on there.

>>550693
>>550694

Porn like OP pic (Disney cartoon style) is very, very rare.

You should make porn with that style & you get a lots of money, anon.

>>550693
I make money off wallpaper commissions.

Some of the good ones I sell on Redbubble as prints and shirts as well.

It's not a ton of cash or even a livable wage, but it's a good way to get the odd steam game here and there. It's mostly passive once you get people buying on Redbubble.

If you want to make good money, keep an eye on current trends and pretty much pander to whoever will pay you.
Or don't, and make what you like. Chances are someone might like what you make enough to commission something.

there is no money in directly modeling and texturing unless its for gaming.

the local industries which are mostly vfx and archviz just buy premade models or make something crude themselves.
otherwise animating can be useful as well.
so yeah don't do 3D modeling unless u plan on being so good that someone will relocate you.

girls with tits larger than their head and physiologically impossible sex acts

>>550755
I didn't make OP, but I have a similar style. Say you make porn like OP, where do you even sell it?

>>550755
Pretty much this. The only 3D cartoony porn out there is shit like Mongo Bongo and Vaesark, and they just slightly mod pre-made freeshit.
Make cartoon porn and open a Patreon. Remember one of the truest marketing mottos: "You don't have to be the best, so long as you're the first".

>>550810
>Say you make porn like OP, where do you even sell it?

Patreon, but the only porn consumers with dosh are furries.
So make yiffy shit, preferrably gay / futa shit and pander to whatever the current trends are.

>>550693
make porn aniamtions on tumblr, make a patreon, do commissions, share it in chan threads on /aco/

Sell your models on second life

Sell your models on turbosquid / renderotica

>>550962
I'm in the center of fetish dispersal and feet just got phased out for armpits so judging by how long it takes memes to disperse to outer social layers, feet will be a thing in stronger force next year and then armpits in 2019.

Though dabbing got on a TV commercial very fast for a meme on TV, maybe it'll just take a few months in 2017?

How quickly are we generating and tossing aside fetishes?

Dabbing...yet another black invention that has absolutely no purpose beyond being ridiculous and something they can call their own. Meanwhile white america catches on 6 months later and by the time it's mainstream the blacks have started another new stupid trend or word.

You could start your own company and do animations/stills for ad agencies. That's what I do and it works quite well.
You could also try becoming a Houdini expert. Good Houdini artists are generally in a higher demand and make more money.

>>550693
Honestly the only reason why I'm on this board is because I'm looking for people to help me with my game. I'll pay cash. You guys should set up a site for this. I don't really know where to find artists. I've looked on upwork but they charge way to high or they are some shitty artist from india. I'm just a wanna be game dev with $100 art budget

>>551167
>I don't really know where to find artists.
polycount

>>551167
Seconding polycount as a place to look. But what kind of asset are you looking for for $100 because that will at best that will buy you 5 or 6 hours of time with an okay to good artist and that is a generous estimate.

>>550947
>Make cartoon porn and open a Patreon.

Holy shit this. If you can animate at all, DO THIS.

There are fucking Patreons for people who make SFM porn, the easiest shit possible using all community nude models (so no modelling skill needed, but animating) that are making several grand a month.

Do that shit all original and the skies the limit. There are some artists that make their own assets and animate in far better software making like $8000 a month.

Look how much this guy makes for his text adventure porn game with really basic supplementary art.

https://www.patreon.com/user?u=121401

>>551258
While we are looking at patreon porn.

https://www.patreon.com/oxopotion

There is this guy, making a porn game with actual good art and animation. Unfortunately he is making a pittance compared to that furry text adventure game, but still just enough to live off if you are not in an expensive city.

Anyone know of some real research on correlations between fetishes and the income of the userbase, or more usefully fetishes and the amount of money people spend on it.

https://www.patreon.com/fek Making almost $300k/yr for yiffy 3d

>>551359
>https://www.patreon.com/fek
kek

>>551359
Yeah there's a fuckton of money in doing furshit, even if you aren't a furry, the amount of money those people throw at commissions is ludicrous.

I'd imagine if you were able to make quality looking *appealing* 3D furry stuff, you'd be one rich motherfucker.

>>551359
>>551258
holy fucking shit. i'm a senior-level engineer and these guys are making way more than me. i need to quit my job

>>553681
Never underestimate the power of horny rich people.

>>550696
Make a tumblr and just put shit on there. I did SFM porn for a few months and only out up around 3 or so animations and a few posters. Got a few hundred followers very quickly. I don't do it anymore but I checked in on it a few weeks ago and I had messages asking where I went or saying to please come back. It's very very jarring how quickly you can build a community there since all the porn rebloggers have tons and tons of followers.

This was all with zero marketing as well. So just put shit out there and you will make it if you are dedicated.

>>550693
Honestly as a career choice in 3d modeling you'll most likely have to move to areas that have a demand. It helps to research closest or bigger companies to see whether they are hiring. Check out the work they produce to get a general feel of what might be expected of you in your line of work.

>>550993
>How quickly are we generating and tossing aside fetishes?

You misunderstand, the trends you want to get behind are cultural. Examples: FNAF, Undertale, MLP, that kind of shit.

So whatever the next FNAF is (which you don't need to figure out ahead of time, you just need to notice it when it starts showing up on e621)

As for fetishes, it's not that you need to pick the most popular one, it's that you need to be willing to cater to whatever the client's fetish is

>>551372
>>551373
>>553681

Two things to keep in mind

1) people click donate then cancel the donation before the payment goes out (maybe that got fixed)

2) It took a while for Fek to get popular, and at first he was doing a 2d flash sex game and mostly getting money from making bespoke sparkle dogs, he's only now doing a 3d game

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>>550693
F R E E L A N C E
you can do that shit in your underwear from any location on the planet (and maybe even the moon)

>>553758
I agree Fek has a smooth hustle that isn't easy to replicate exactly. But if you can make 1/4 of that you can probably have a better job in cg than most anybody working in industry.

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>>553681
The guys behind Breeding Season were making 42 grand a month on average. At some point it peaked at 50k but settled back down to 43-42k.

And that "game" wasn't anything besides an unfinished visual novel that people downloaded just to try out the new animations on the gallery every update. The art was alright, but not 50 grand alright, and the project fell apart because they didn't want to work together and had no discipline. With that kinda money, you could probably pay three professionals 5 - 7k a month, have them make the game under you as a director, and blow the rest of the cash on hookers and weed.

Just as a fun thought experiment, imagine you pay destitute ex-Vanillaware employees that kinda money to make you a porn game? They could easily make something that would blow all these kiddie scam projects out of the water with a fraction of the budget, set some actual standards to follow when it comes to porn on patreon, and then suddenly the gravy train is over for those people.

The artist behind Breeding Season moved on to another project called Cloud Meadow, which is the exact same assets on a slightly different game package. He's still getting paid 11 grand a month to fuck around with his hobby and put out an unfinished patreon build whenever he feels like it.

https://www.patreon.com/CloudMeadow

Shit like this makes me think that people don't want just porn anymore, they want furry porn and monster porn. They fucking need that shit, and they'll pay too.

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>>553962
i should just leave morals back at home and pander to humanity twisted perversions

I'm not sure how porn artists don't get burned out from making NSFW stuff every day.
I tried for like two weeks a few years ago, and it felt like I was doing the same shit every day. It was tolerable, because I enjoy working on 3d, but I felt pretty arbitrarily limited in what type of content I could make.

There's no thrill of "yeah this next thing I'm going to make is going to be the best thing I've ever made".
There's no feeling of self improvement.
Because it's fucking porn. There isn't a whole lot you can do with it.

Freelancing
Second Life (it's still alive enough to make money if you've got no shame)
Paid modding on steam is coming back soon

>>553982
I mean you can always make it to have better quality, better animations, different movements, longer or more realistic voice acting (if you can get some girl to do it)

>>553987
It just seems like porn animations are really easy to animate in comparison to anything else, so you don't really get to improve on anything because it's so damn simple.

I've seen a lot of really good porn animators that are embarrassingly awful at animating anything that isn't porn. They can't do walk cycles, they can't do moving characters, they can't animate on more than one axis, etc.
Not saying I'm any better, but it makes me question how much room for improvement there really is with something that seems so simple.

>>553991
It's easy to make a shitty tumblr, look up a redtube video, and have Marie Rose move her head up and down a shaft on a three second SFM loop, and it's even easier to receive praise for that and just settle right then and there on the mindset that you don't need to improve.

Not saying there's not good animators out there, but I agree with you that most of the guys furiously pumping out .webm animations probably couldn't make a goldfish swim forward if they tried.

>>553991
>you don't really get to improve on anything because it's so damn simple
You can always improve the detail.
Compare the average SFM porno animation to this for example:
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2271078
The difference is night and day.

>>553762
well shit, how about instead of talking about this, someone join me so we can get this shit done?

Or you know what, fuck it. I'll do this on my own even if no one will help me, adios!

>>553962
>They fucking need that shit, and they'll pay too.
So, you've finally figured out that diverse-niches are the way to fund your crack habit?
Welcome Brother, welcome to the wet, tight, warm embrace of Slaanesh.
Come, let us poorly loop loli-bestiality for 6fps and be paid $30 for it.
Join us, you don't need integrity where we're going...

>>553982
>>553987
>>553991
>>554002
>>554011
What, you think I do this to "git gud"?
I can sprint out a pos animation once every few days, pad my dumblr with contrived "poses/renders" EVERY day, and make one shitty ten minute pov style animation (don't have to animate more than one body that way) that caters to some foot-fag and mlp fanboy.
I do this side gig to suck as much money out of these people as possible, and then they look up as I'm fucking them in the ass with my pixelated cock and say "thank you, may I have some more?"
I rip some models, re-jig them, steal some assets, add chromatic-abrasion, record sound on my phone me fucking my gf without telling her, mix it all together an BOOM! 3k per-month.
I don't even animated ass jiggle and I've only got in trouble with the cops once.
My real job (TEFL teacher) pays me enough, I do this shit on my laptop.
Feels good making more on a per-hour basis, for less than 30 hours a week than my STEM friends who pull 60+ hours minimum as "interns".

>>554029
Fuck you asshole, GO TO HELL

>>554029
That's actually smart, my man. I didn't mean to imply it's a waste of time or a dumb thing.

But it's exactly as you said, when you're making four-figures merely by ripping some assets and putting some minimal effort into it, you don't really have a reason to do better, especially since there' so many people out there with heavy wallets. It helps to not be in a competitive market either, or at least, there seems to be plenty of patrons out there equivalent to SFMers.

>>554032
>That's actually smart, my man. I didn't mean to imply it's a waste of time or a dumb thing.
Thanks dude. I get what you're saying now, so yeah I'd agree.
>But it's exactly as you said, when you're making four-figures merely by ripping some assets and putting some minimal effort into it, you don't really have a reason to do better, especially since there' so many people out there with heavy wallets. It helps to not be in a competitive market either, or at least, there seems to be plenty of patrons out there equivalent to SFMers.
Diverse-Niche as they say. Pretty much anything above 9000hours in MSpaint on DA and they pay out the ass for their OC-2D-waifu to impregnate Sanic. It's fucked, some of the stuff I've done is """technically""" illegal but pays REALLY well.
It's funny you mention "... no reason to do better..." as I'm actually to a point where I'm thinking to myself "I could just add this and it'd make it a bit better" so I'm actually improving (sort of) but not spending more time doing so, you get me?

>>554034
what's the point in working 60+ hours in stem field then when people can just take the easy way out? (sure you got to spend hundreds/thousands of hours learning, but you do the same for going to school to get in a STEM field.)

I just question why I work my ass off at work everyday with little in return when some fetish artist is making more in a year, than I will in the next 10-20 years.

I got into game dev, and I'm highly considering abandoning my 2 year project, just to make a porn game.

>>554036
ikf. Just do dev on the side man, you're actually making a difference. Like I said I'm a TEFL teacher (no degree), that's my main income and """respectable""". I'll be damned if I let anyone know that I made Widowmaker suck a gorilla's dong EdgeSystems style.
Plus it's kinda poisoning the well. Once it gets out that you do insane fetish shit, that's basically it. You're a pariah and locked in to doing it for years, so you end up in a worse position.
It's tough at first (like $0 for months tough), but it snowballs withing 8-9 months if you push your shit consistently. I'd just suggest never let it become your only thing unless you're NEET.
I put in the least effort for max return so as that I can live the life I want.

>>554037
Thanks for the words.
There is the shame I'm a bit worried about.

But I think I'm going to do it anyway, it's better than bending my ass over for some asshole who doesn't give a shit about me.

This guy
https://www.patreon.com/Mantis_X
$4k a month for 4 minutes of animation maybe once or twice a month.

He doesn't even make that many new models anymore, and just reuses the same mesh, some vids he probably puts a day worth of effort, puts music over it and just makes it loop for a minute.

And TBQH, $4k a month for this little effort, and I'd be living the dream life, I'd be taking vacations, relaxing, and all my stress will go away.

The question is, what type of porn should I do?
Should I make a 3D porn game.
Should I just make short porn videos.
Which fetishes should I aim for?

If I'm going to do this, I want to go all out and milk it for all its worth. (except scat.)

>>554039
You should aim for my fetishes.

>>553982
>There isn't a whole lot you can do with it.

You're just not being creative enough, your attitude kinda sucks, and that's likely because it's just not your medium (porn I mean, not 3D)

Consider TheBoogie (not to be confused with the fleshbeast on youtube) who posts regularly on his tumblr about how hard he works, how he strives every day to be the best, how he's getting down to business, all with a boner in one hand

Here's a pretty inspirational video from Shadman (regardless of what you think of his art, he works hard and is successful in the porn biz)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvYqovEgsj0

>>554041
then there's sakimichan who basically is living life on ezmode, doesn't have to change anything about his artstyle, he's milking it for all its worth, I'm surprised he doesn't get sued for making six figures off of work that's not even his. (Selling disney porn)

>>554041
>"but it's good to be able to feel really bad sometimes, because it means you've experienced something so good, that you know the contrast to what it feels like to be absolutely terrible"
>"and you know you've fought before for that high, so the low will only lead to another high that you can rightfully earn once you overcome your new obstacles"

as much of a massive edgelord Shad is, that really resonated with me.
I've been trying to figure out how to avoid feeling like shit when I've disappointed myself by making sub-par work, but his solution seems damn good.

>>554073
what scale are you shooting for? If it's 3D you can look at other peoples models and take them apart and slowly try to replicate the level they reached.

I look at AAA models, download them and put them into Blender, and slowly learn how to replicate it.

>>554039
> 4k a month for 4 minutes

That is some good income, but check this out:
https://www.patreon.com/animopron

Now, the patreon money is hidden, but last time I checked (December 12th 2016) he made 16k with lara fucked by a horse... every time. Literally every clip he made (except a 10 second one) is Lara fucked by a horse on the same fucking island. No asset change, no new sounds, no nothing.

The vids are kinda nice to look at, but the animation is sometimes so clunky, that even a shit stain on your screen is more appealing.

>>554039
>>554077
Me again regarding your questiongs.

> Should I make a 3D porn game.
To much effort for a good game, except you can really excel by making Unity/Unreal games. Renpy games is the current shit, but most of them top at 200 bucks.

Should I just make short porn videos.
Yes, least amount of effort, but with the highest outcome, because 95% of all patreon games a static pics or have non. Just some animations will burst the tips.

Which fetishes should I aim for?
Vanilla with good animations, furry or some less weird shit (small girl too big cock, semen flood, etc.). Not to weird at the beginning. You want to catch most of the mainstream crowd.

Just my opinion from lurking on patreon porn.
Also, it's my goal, too. Just want to freelance, after fucked three times by stupid superiors. (No, not whining, just exhausted)

>>554039
>Should I make a 3D porn game.
No. Too much effort. Maybe some Unity shit like a tetitris or other generic early 2000's New Grounds shit.
Forget that Adventure Time knockoff (but Makanis is a good animator sooo...) level stuff.
>Should I just make short porn videos.
Yes. And occasionally slightly longer short videos.
>Which fetishes should I aim for?
Dude, just use keyword searches and look at stats. The fundamentals never change:
>Bimbos and BBC
>Sister/Daughter/Niece
>Mom
>BBW
>Femdom
>Rape
>Distraught anal
Sure there are certain flavours of the month like Aegho, but basic shit doesnt change.

>>554041
>>554073
I think the point here is, from a production stand point, your average fapper CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE between an hour of work or ten. People who are on /3/, /aco/, /d/, ect. are basically faecal-connoisseurs who understand effort or at least what makes something appealing nd want to support creators only if they're at a certain quality level. The people who ACTUALLY PAY TO GET THEIR NUT don't.

So, as someone who has had to be an artist-wranggler I'm going to just say that One, Shad is a POS but he's not wrong, Two, Stop planning and start producing, and Three, ARTIST ARE THEIR OWN WORST CRITIC stop being a selfish cunt and make shit for people to jack off and schlick to CONSISTANLY nothing will burn bridges faster than a fucking autistic/savant level artist who DOESN'T DELIVER ON TIME CHRIS, YOU FUCK, YOU'RE SLOWING US DOWN AND i SWEAR YOU FUCK UP ONE MORE TIME WITH SOME BULLSHIT DELAY BECAUSE "MUH DEPRESSION" AND i THEN SEE YOU STREAM AND YOU'RE EATING YOUR BEEFJERKY WATCHING HIGHSCHOOL OF THE DEAD AND YOU'RE OFF THE TEAM!

>>554081
>furry or some less weird shit (small girl too big cock, semen flood, etc.
Oh snap, I >>554143 just posted exactly what this dude did. Hive mind mang.

Yes, furry is a big one. Best part is you don't even need to actually give them hair follicles, just the cartoon edges the represent them. AND your skins don't have to even have details on them.
>DAZ body
>FNAF asset head rip.
>Add tits and hyper dick
>????
>Profit.

>>554143
>>554144
no good artist makes porn. Ever.

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>>554145
wasn't this stuff porn?

i genuinely don't actually know but why else would someone put nudes all over their walls

>>554145
>no good artist makes porn. Ever.
You're right Anon :^) I just make lewds. Always.

>>554148
wasn't this stuff porn?

It was exactly that.
Kind of.

It's like when /b/ shares nudes of their girlfriends and shit. The dude just shows it off to other dudes.
"Nice, my liege"
"Why yes, I daresay you're a real Chadwick"
"My thanks, dear fellows. No more partaking in imaginary carnal delights for me"

Bonus points: Venus of Urbino is cheeze pizza (she's 14 I believe)

>>554152
>"My thanks, dear fellows. No more partaking in imaginary carnal delights for me"
>tfw on day VI of Lent, Anno Domini 1720, abstaining from carnal delights
I am perspiring greatly my brethren...

>>554145
not only good artists make porn but you kinda have to make porn to sustain yourself.

>>554148
>>554152
no, thats not porn grandpa.

>>554148
These were more about the celebration of the beauty of the human body than porn.

Porn is about appeasing your dick. These murals were about appeasing your soul.

>>550693
Freelance. Set up a Paypal business account and look for the odd job, be open to porn as well (especially furry). Porn work is more likely to come around than the clean work I find.

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https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/74645

Make insane amounts of low poly garbage and sell it on some store like Unity's as a pack. Can't believe people buy this shit at those prices

>>554187
>https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/74645
wtf..this can be made in a day tho?

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>>554187
>each vertex was carefully placed by hand

after reading all this mow I'm considering to do 3d porn, I also have style like OP...

Wish I had someone to make 3D porn with, but has to be a girl, it'd be kinda gay to make porn with another guy.

>>554210
hmm why? I find groupe sex very gay, but making 3d porn??

>>554210
> wishing for gürl, because for example studies and sweet talk
> bros before hoes

"Bro, can you make an animation, where he is fucking her in the ass?" "Dude, that's so gay the way you are talking to me, but I like that idea."

>>554210
edgy, i have an startup animation stufio in a secondary apartment , we have no funrnances except computer desks and cables. Very comfy to work with and there is a mentality where you can make porn with other dudes to take it like opportunity to make bucks

>>554144
Me again from >>554081

> Hive mind mang
Hive mind assemble! I hope we can become voltron next time.

Just wanted to add somethings I forgot yesterday.

> Which fetish?
INCEST IS WINCEST!

Shame on me I forgot this, but incest is the way to go. Even if you announce you will make it one grand is for sure. Don't believe me? Well here is the deal.

The most patreons sites are using Renpy or Rpgmaker to tie static images from their overused daz characters together. Just see for yourself by downloading any game on this list:

http://pastebin.com/pqrK98XT

They are all shit, except two. One is the amateur made Unity game " Abandoned - A tale of Forgotten Lives". Using daz charaters and unity assets, but it's well mindeld together. Also the author don't want to be paid much, because he states he is an amateur and doesn't see his work as something good, much more like training grounds.

Second and that's the main focus "Dating My Daughter". I lurk the LL thread and the patreon page since the beginning.
https://www.patreon.com/mrdotsgames

Unfortunately the author also hid his income. Why is that? Well, as I said, I creeped it and it started as version 0.0.1 at october 30th as a renpy game with daz characters. The last update is 0.0.6 around the mid of february.

What happend?
Well, because of slightly better use of camera angles, assets, ui and the renpy engine, also incest (don't forget that). It topped 10k after just one month. I'm not kidding.

You don't believe me? Because there a no numbers?
Just do the math for yourself, even the patreon numbers are hidden. Today MrDotsGames has 1,556 patreons and has tiers of 1$, 5$, 10$, 15$, 20$
We can assume that most patreons will go with 10$ average (but it's more likely they will pay 15$. It's the first tier with hardcore and not softcore)

so. 1,556 patreons * 10$ = HOLY SHIIIITEE 15k for that renpy game?
Yes, because this one is just better than most of the other crap on that list. Just test it.

>>554215
> B-But you said animations is the way to go and not games! And now, you make games so appealing!

Well yes, but animations are even less effort and the pay is the same. Needless to say, you don't have to program your shit together.

Finally, related to >>554143
> your average fapper CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE between an hour of work or ten

This is 100% accurate. There is only one thing that counts. CONTENT!

I doesn't matter, if the content is great, it only matters, if there is NEW content. Just compare with the average Joe
> Muh, he's bugfixing for two weeks
Can you fap to that? No

> Oh boy, a new smut scene after one month of wait with only three static pics, but he is fucking his daughter? SO GUD!
Can you fap to this? Buckets where never so full.

And that's it.
Just do porn today!

And as that said, that is why I am also start to make porn. :^]

>>554187
you need a commercial 3d license for this to sell your works however

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>>554215
>>554216
I surrender, it's better than worrying 24/7 when mr shekelstein is going to fire you.

This is the future, go make jerk-off material boys.

Imagine starting a whole company on this.

Basically get 5-10 people who use patreon and make a shit-ton of money from it. Then they all ask their patrons to support the kickstarter for their joint project, and watch it hit the millions $$$

You win solely off the fact there's no competition.
Google 3D person and you will see a handful of creators. Everyone knows pretty much everyone after a hour of searching.

Be the guy who does Scat 3D porn, and you will be making at minimum, $200k+ a year because no one else is doing it.

>>554222
>Basically get 5-10 people who use patreon and make a shit-ton of money from it. Then they all ask their patrons to support the kickstarter for their joint project, and watch it hit the millions $$$

https://www.patreon.com/fow
And they're not even that good, they were just first.

I have a feeling the patreon bubble's going to burst tho. It's already getting pretty over saturated.

>>554223
You know what's dogshit?
They don't even use original content, they just steal models and dick around for a month or 2 till they get something that can be put up.

Hope they get shut down with copyright strikes.

especially sakimichan.

>>554223
> https://www.patreon.com/fow
This leaves me speechless. I have to admit it is the best high quality smut I have seen for a long time and I don't know why fow is underperforming so much.

Maybe to vanilla? Clips to short? Can anyone redpill me on that? Currently in SFW.

>>554227
>fow is underperforming so much

23k a month is "underperforming"? That's more than 270.000 dollars a year.

They have a goal of renting their own studio if they get to 30k a month. And the last goal after that is a pet project for the studio. A pet project out of a bunch of guys making porn, something big companies would be strapped to do and would only consider doing in a sort of financial golden age of sorts for them.

That seems like anything *but* underperformance, anon.

>>550693
of course, an easy way is to pump out game assets etc and just sell them on TurboSquid or something. Can't live off that though

>>554257
Oh okay, sorry. I thought after looking through this thread and especially after breeding season, which was made by two guys?, I guessed a team of six-seven people with that good looking porn would make way more money.

>>554265
Breeding Season had a team of around four to five people. It's just you never heard about them from the director and they ended up quitting earlier in the project due to drama.

>>554164
>>554166
Titian's Venus of Urbino is pretty much porn.

Titian's goal was to make it explicit, and depicts her masturbating (it doesn't really look like it I know, but that's what people say).
The patron of the work pretty much used it as I said earlier, he didn't have it in a public space. It was more in like a den or study, where he'd look at it, and show other dudes.
It wasn't made for the Duke to jack off to, but at the very least it was made to be erotic. And by some definition, that counts as porn. At least to the courts :^)

>iit: Deviants making low quality porn from ripped assets civilly discussing the state of the industry whilst offering honest advice and measured onions.

How in the living fuck did this happen?

It's like this world was set up for the most degenerate people to have the highest amount of success in this world.

If you're one of those scat eating bestiality jerking-off kids. You'd probably be thrilled to make porn of that everyday.

Someone who is passionate in such tastes would be a millionaire after several years.

>>554023
I mean I'm already busting my ass to do exactly this lol. Discussed a $3 grand animation commission this evening. ;)

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>>554330
h-how long is the animation?
Is it using pre-existing models?

>>554283
Do you think, at least once, the bros were standing there appreciating the art, and one of them whips out his dick from his loincloth and starts breaking one out?

Do you think the other dudes joined in?

>>554331
It will be a flash interactive featuring some fuck loops and transitions between them. I do rigging/animation/environments but not sculpting - the project I'm discussing will involve a model of one of my characters I commissioned together with a model of his character. I use Renderman not SFM.

This is definitely the best gig I've gotten so far but the lesson is that horny people have deep pockets.

>>554337
What do you use for rigging? Was it fairly easy to learn?

>>554337
The money has to be significantly higher than the work required to do it to make one consider spending hours on someone elses fetish.

Sounds like you're putting in a lot of effort for the same gain.
But I guess, at least you get to use an existing model.

>>554342
I use AdvancedSkeleton which I have a love/hate relationship with but is the best rigging package I've come across. AdvS is slightly buggy but at this point I'm used to opening up the source code and figuring out how to fix when it fucks up. Also I sometimes have to add details on top of the basic rig, like custom facial rigging for example. So studying a few rigging tutorials including MEL scripting was useful.

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>>554336
I don't see why not.
But this was the Renaissance, they wore pantaloons and stockings and wild shit.

Tbh I can't imagine people could resist doing that to some of the fucking sculptures. Jesus, I'd fuck a rock.
Granted pic related is from the Rococo era which came a little later, but still.

>>553963
That's what privacy is for you dumbass. Just make sure your real name never comes out and you can do whatever you want

>>550693
Wait, how did you even get a license for a modeling tool?

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>>554337
So basically sorta what ZONE does

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>>550693
Hey I recognize that character design. No offense but your interpretation of it is complete shit compared to this one.

>>554498
if you bothered to read even 5 posts in you'd see that OP said the pic wasn't of his making.
No offence but you're a moron.

>>554406
saved up neetbux.

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>>554498
you're a faggot but anyway both op and the model you posted are interpretations of this concept art and not of each other.

>>554498
Looks good but based on >>554503
it totally got the tilt of the head and facial expression wrong. The concept art has her head tilted to the right (character's) and her expression is less bored and less pouty than the model. He also forgot the earring and the ponytail is too low on the head and too short.

He's may be a better 3d artist than op but I think he missed the mark if he was trying to recreate the concept art.

>>554498
>fucking billion poly sculpt with no mapping and no hope of being animated
>excellence award
Fuck everything.

>>554639
I know it's hard to believe, but not everything in life is about cartoons and video games.

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>>554666
Yeah, it's called actually making said high quality model as a sculpture instead. Shit like that has no purpose digitally, 3D model are virtual puppets, meant for animation.

>>554666
nice evil trips of truth.

>>554706
if your already an established character artist, who knows how to make an animateable character model.

makes sense that you would just do the fun part for show.

>>554706
that's nonsense. digital sculpting has tons of advantages over using physical media.

>>554706
3D printing, CNC milling, any sort of digitize production method can use a 3D model. And there's no need to have perfect quad topology. You're being obtuse.

>>554744
>>554743

C'mon guys. It's clear he's a first year CG student somewhere. He'll catch up.

>>554706
>3D model are virtual puppets, meant for animation.

You get the excellence award for retardation.

>>554508
maybe its an interpretation and not a 1:1 recreation? The the gray one looks better anyway

Would sfm still shots make cash lol

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>>554029
you're my hero bud, I aspire to be like you

I work on some very high profile projects fulltime (stuff you see on tv) and try to get some freelance work for extra cash and cos im a workaholic. Needless to say had no luck getting freelance gigs. I can get a job in a top studio but cant get hired for a shitty random freelance job lol

>>558038
What sort of "freelance work" are you even looking for? I see random dumbos willing to hire the first faggot willing to bash two polygons against each other for them all the time, though the pay is usually shit.

>>558062
Animation work, mainly polycount freelance forum section

What about making content for games like dota or team autism? Is the pay shit/locked down by nepotists?

Shit has been on lockdown by same group of people for a while. Some still manage to make a bit here and there if their sets are badass

>>558062
where do you see this? Wherever I look people ask for like 50 years experience

>>558275
Small budget devs or projects are usually the pickiest. Cos money is an issue they look for best bang for buck

>>554223
>>554227
>>554257
>>554265

I think what sets FOW apart is straight up organisation. The animations are really good, they light their shit well and their sound-game is not shabby.

Just the fact that they apparently got a good contact with a Jap VA for some of their projects is impressive to me. I would not underestimate what it does to a strapping young basementdweller when it actually SOUNDS like their fave waifu takes 8 inches to the esophagus

>>553963

Then you become the problems you complain about. You become the bad guy you swore you'd never be when you're a child. IT'S NOT WORTH IT. NOTHING IS WORTH COMPROMISE TRUST ME.

>>550693
>>550755
OP here updating, I'm successfully paying my bills off of lewd cartoons

>>559637
where did you go to do it? patreon or elsewhere?

>>559637
Please OP, give us all the infos

>>559637
how did u make it bro, pls respond

>>559633
I was a bully

PS:
I'm not the guy to whom you've replied, but I was going to say the same...

>>559633
What the fuck? I was the bad guy

>>559658
>>559680
>>559710
started out doing commissions on several sites at first. Was slow to start but once I got rolling I got pretty steady work, after a while I set up my patreon. Not earning a huge amount but enough to cover my bills and to pay taxes and shit. I make all my stuff so it's a bit of work though.

>>559730
links?
pls bud

>>554706
Yeah, like I'm gonna spend thousands of dollars of marble, when I can spend $900 once and no longer have to worry about the material cost anymore, lol fuck off retard.

>>559730
Cool to see that you're rolling, buddy. Can you share you patreon link with us? Want to see some hot new stuff I can proudly fap to.

>>559730
You dont have to link your shit but listing these several sites would help

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>>554029