Wich one and why, /3/?

Personal favourite is A. I don't like B. C is meh/okay, looks "gamey" if you know what I mean.

is this for painkiller game?

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1st one because it has the skull and not the mouth. But overall the halos look odd. Maybe put some medival looking spikes around his head ?

A face, B wings and halo.
A face because the thing already looks super evil, giving it a scowl or a mean face is just gilding the monstrous lily
B wings and halo because they create, imo the best silhouette from the front, and the halo size and placement lets it be framed by the wings, making it more immediately obvious than A or C

>>506717
Wouldn't "gilding the monstrous lily" be a good thing, in this context?

>>506719
You could also cover him in spikes and paint him up like Darth Maul.

>>506711
The first one is less intimidating and more "awe" inspiring because it doesn't have a mouth.

The second one is more intimidating because it's closer to being a human but perhaps that has been "enlightened."

The third one is weak all around.

I also think the shape of the second wings and shoulders are objectively the best. For the face it would be dependent on what you want. If you want something scarier explore the second option, if you want something more "Godly" or "Lovcraftian" or awe inspiring, go with the first.

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Forgive me anons, I forgot to give you some context;
My briefing was to take an Angel and give it a Nightmarish look; basically make a terrifying angel.

>>506712
Thank you for your opinion, anon.

>>506713
Just a personal project, anon.

>>506714
I'll experiment with that, thanks, anon!

>>506717
I'm experimenting with that at this momment, pic related - what do you think, anon?

>>506723
Thank you very much for you in depth opinion, anon!
Based on it, I ~think~ that the first one should be more what I should go with.

>>506728
I'm pretty sure you are trying to use the shoulders and wings to frame the head, but using the original B design for both of those still frames the head and is more aesthetically pleasing. The shoulders on this are the worst part even if they do help "lead" to the face. The human body will lead to the face anyway so it's not necessary and the framing with the wings pointing up in that non circular shape created an "angelic" feeling where here it's more like a bird.

>>506711
A, its more iconic. Try and make iit even more unique

>>506728
>That head cavity.

Anon, I will love you forever if you stick a giant eyeball in there and post it.

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>>506764
haha okay

>>506770
make wings bigger, add supporting muscle around skull, make body look more dessicated. Low poly, rig, animate limp body + flapping wings + moving eyeball
>glorious success

>>506770
That Eyeball would actually look neat if it had the supporting side muscles that real eyeballs have.

>>506770
FUCKING

GLORIOUS

>>506770
Damn son
Now just get some eyeball muscles next to it

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I'm having some trouble with colors.
Any suggestions?

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>>507021

>>506711
NONE.
Wings on a head would be too heavy to support. Flapping the wings to fly would literally rip the head from the body. Very impractical design by someone who obviously doesn't understand or believe in evolution.

>>506770
>>507021
>>507045

Not only that but with such a small brain it would have limited processing abilities similar to a cat. Also with so much of the one eye exposed with no surrounding ocular support the eye would be highly susceptible to constant injury from falling debris.

With so much eye exposed it with be weak, easy to punch, and cause constant pain.

It's nasal passage too small to intake sufficient oxygen. The eye would need much more blood, and muscle support.
Such a small brain could hardly handle basic function let along the power to process one eye viewing the world in 2d, needing the brain to interpolate three dimensional viewing.
That being would basically be dumber than a small animal.
Also not enough neck or bone support to support the head wings which would also need to take up more space in the head just to support the head wings on the skull.

To sum it up this being would be weak, easy to injure, and barely able to function as efficiently as a human.

>>507047
It's an Angel.
You don't need a brain when you have UNQUESTIONING AND UNWAVERING FAITH

>>507058
>You don't need a brain

Obviously. Lack of education or curiosity with the world around you leaves little respect for reality, and a need to explain what is plausible.

Magical everything is your solution. I have faith, but I also prefer some grounded basis in basic biology with what is possible with flesh, muscle, and bone. For me it is respecting the nature we're gracious to be a part of.

This might as well be cartoonish since all reality in every form is completely ignored for magic stuff you make up however you want.

>>507062
Realism is okay, but that's not the point of OP's character, anon.

The best monster designs don't make a lot of sense in ""real world"" parameters either.
Predator, Giger's Alien, The Pale Man, the many incarnations of The Thing, Pumpkin head, Godzilla.... etc

All of them are allegories to some sort of fear we have, and shouldn't be chained 100% to logic.

"Do not let truth get in the way of a good story."
So, don't let "muh realism" get in the way a cool monster design.

>>507065
>cool monster design.

Yes, but it is not a cool monster design. One swift tap to its giant jelly filled eyeball head, and it would be completely disoriented.

By having a giant eyeball head, it actually makes the creature look weak, and easily flawed by design.
The small brain also gives the impression that the creature is rather stupid, unable to have equaled brain capacity as humans.

>>507068

>>507068

Well, that's just like, your opinion, man.

That being said, I rather it without the giant eyeball aswell.
Don't put the eyeball in your final model OP

>>507069
>Well, that's just like, your opinion, man.

No, it is based on the appearance. It has a small brain, and no protection from falling objects for the huge eyeball. Small brain, and huge unprotected eye in appearance demonstrates weakness.

Just as you would spot a person's weakness, this creature's weakness it quite apparent.
Having one gigantic eye that serves no purpose but to look weird reveals the creature's obvious weaknesses.

When you design a creature showing strength the appearance should give off a sense of power, and strength not a ridiculously small brain, and jelly head.
Muscle, bone, and mass are vital symbols of strength and protection.

The wings when flapping would rattle his head from side to side. It would look quite stupid.
The creature would be unprepared if someone approached it from behind.
Walk up to the creature from behind, punch the top of its head, stabbing eye pain. No ears, or visible ability to balance itself, or equilibrium.

>>506770
That looks goofy as shit.

>>507077
>>507077
What I meant is that it was your opinion that it wasn't a cool monster.
The same could be said of literally every single great monster design - Giger's alien can't turn it's head because he has huge shoulders and clavicle and a humongous phalic head. It has freaking exhaust pipes coming out of it's back. It's tongue is another mini-mouth that serves no evolutionaty purpose, etc etc. The genious of all this work is that every single design decision is meant to have a deeper grounding on other stuff, semiotic and shit.

All of those line syou wrote are great valid points, but you're overthinking realism, when it's pretty clear that monsters are an allegory - a metaphor for different kinds of phobias.

Based on what OP said his briefing was, I think it's pretty clever to make an angel without Eyes, clinging to the "blind faith" metaphor. The decaying, stylized body a symbol of old, archaic and distorted sense of oneself, just like the catholic church. The wings where the ears would be are hinting that it doesn't listen to the context it is in, it just believes it is better than everyone else, a "holier than thou" kind of attitude.

Certainly doesnt use those wings for flying, since their size and location and all.
You're just thinking too much "mechanically" and "real worldly" - when you should be thinking more of allegories to illustrate and incarnate deep fears and uncanny feelings.
Personally, I think that's a pretty cool creature. I think he should elaborate more, but it's on the right direction, design wise.

>>507080
finally someone who gets it. I swear 3D people are some the least artistically inclined people there are

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You could use one of these as a belt floating around your angel, I think it would look cool.

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>>507088
Like this but smaller, only around the waist.

>>507045
>>507047
>Muh magical floating angel zombie isn't realistic boo hoo.

Can't tell if trolling or genuinely retarded.

>>507120
my guess is retarded

>>507047
I'm all for form follows function when it comes to something realistic, but mate, that creature is probably meant to be a metaphor.

>>506711

Wow ur the only good artist on /3/. Everything else Ive seen is shit.

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>>507219
Thanks for the compliment, bro - but there are many, many better people that post here. Maybe not frequently, but there are some.
Slocik is one of them (not sure about the ID, just remember it was something like that)

>>507089
>>507088
Thanks anon, the wheel of ezekiel is awesome!
Not sure if I'll make it fit into this, cuz' u'm trying to be more subtlr and all, but that's a great suggestion!

Right now, i'm torn between these two wing options.
Fuck.

>>506711
this is not how femurs work you fucking fag

why nobody models dicks on non porn characters EVER? how offensive can a floppy dick be?

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>>507275

I know bro, it was supposed to be the tip of the illiac arc, but it was pretty confusing indeed

>>507276
It's an angel, bro. Angels ain't got dicks.
That being said, I'm not a fan of doing gentalia, to be quite honest.

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>>507276
What are you, some kinda gay retard?

>>506711
whatch constantine

>>507284
And I honestly thought I was doing something original.
Fuck me.

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>>506711
B

>>507277
>filename

BRfag detected

nice work nonetheless

>>507284
Oh, and thanks for the heads up.

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>>507271
Why not just add a bunch of eyes on the halo?

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>>507292

It's a great suggestion, but it would be extremaly time consuming, and I must deliver the final result in about 24 hours. Sucks that I must finish this, would've been awesome to have more time and work on your suggestion, anon.

This is where I'm going with the pose

>>507345
Looks great, polypaint it now

>>506714
>Meshuggah album cover
Best post in this entire board

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>>507347
Thanks, I'm rushing

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>>507379
how much sculpting experience do you have?
cuz 99% of /3/ is "how do i into 3d"

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>>507389

Thanks, anon!
I've started learning art and 3D related exactly here on this board 4 years ago.
Holy shit I can't believe it's been so long already. I'm actually counting on my fingers right now just to be sure, It cant be this long.

2012~2016
HOLY FUUUCK for 4 years I've been here.
Shit I feel like a fucking loser

>>507390
i been learning 3d in general for about 1.5 years id say 8 months is zbrush, we gonna make it brah

>>507392
>>507390
This makes me depressed, I've been learning 3D on and off since 2004 and I can barely model a fucking box.

>>507397
try taking 3D classes or going to school if you need help and self thought method isnt working

>>507390
u gotta job in the field, nigga?

>>507397
well thats the problem you need to sit down and commit. If you haven't pulled your hair out form bullshit and still keep going then you're never going to get better

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>>507390
Can't unsee

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>>507397

>>507062
>I have faith

Confirmation christfags are literally retarded.

>>507390
>HOLY FUUUCK for 4 years I've been here.
lol
get a life nerd, who would sit here for 4years

>>507647
We are all here forever slocik, you, me, alito, everybody. Except Hans... R U here mill?

>>507410
can you make a quick guide on how you sculpt your arms, i need to sculp something like that but im fucking up. i suck at sculpting arms and legs

>>507661
Just break them down into their main shapes. If you're having trouble with arms and legs, then you need to look at more anatomy reference. There's also an amazing anatomy sculpting video on CG peers called "Eat3D Classical Sculpting - Anatomy and Figurative Art for Digital Sculpting" that is extremely educational. It's instructed by Rodney Seffen:
http://www.cgrecord.net/2012/02/rod-seffens-artworks.html

>>507670
cgpeers is kill

idk man, every time its time to sculp arms and legs im like "now what?"

i try cuting the musciles out with a dem_standard than building up with a clay buildbup/tubes but still looks shit

>>507045
Are you saying that a human(oid) neck is not strongly enough attached to the skull to support the weight of the body? If this were true, hanging yourself would be a lot more brutal, albeit... messy

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>>507647

For you <3

>>507661
Hey dude, there's no real secret.
Basically, get some top tier reference, and try to get the silhouette correctly. If you get the shape right, it should be roughly readable as an arm from any angle. If you do that, you don't need to ~know~ anatomy.

Of course, knowing anatomy will always make everything easier.
Search for Scott Eaton's, Jose Pericles and Gio Nakpill stuff. They're very good at doing everything anatomy based in sculpture, props to these guys.

>>507670
That too

>>507682
Try doing the volumes with insert meshes. Might be cool.
Just make the rough shape of the arm, insert individual muscles as simplified volumes and add/remove stuff with clay/caly buildup. It's not as easy as it sounds, but you just gotta put in the hours. It can be lame sometimes, but there's no real secret - just put in the hours.

If you know your work isn't good, means that you have good taste - and that great taste is what drives you to get better everyday. Keep working, bro; the truth is nobody thinks their work is good either. Just keep building your confidence and skills. At least, that's what I do; hopefully I'll have both someday haha

>>508947

Nice work OP, I like it. This would make for a good enemy in some horror shooter.

>>508947
its allright, good job mate
but im not the biggest fan of the render, mostly how blurry the mid section gets
the hand and head for instance have a highlight helping it make ppop up with a larger range, while mid section blends together, dunno if introduceing a more angle fill light from left would help, but yeah
and if you slapped in some dof there for pls remove it

>>507021
get rid of the bellybutton

unless angels are birthed in your headcanon

>>508947
hand and head look realistic. rest of the body looks fake

>>506711
B, looks more disturbing. C is just B with a not that good expression(also body too small).

>>506711
A with B's wings, becuse C looks too wimpy and B's face is less realistic

>>510343
Could you giys stop posting in threads without looking at the date and reading some of it? He finished and gave it to the client weeks ago