let's have some of the best worst /y/ art you've come across.
I don't really look at amateur art.
But it's disgraceful when professionals make anatomy mistakes.
Like, everything looks good at a glance. But stare at it a bit and you realize details like arms bending in unnatural ways.
limbs going behind someone and disappearing.
Crazy body proportions. (yaoi hands)
Good god does that person not realize that would kill him? That's basically snuff porn!
"i'll take deformed characters from weaboo 'artists' who don't know the first thing about drawing over actual practiced artists"
>>2107408 so basically what you're saying is;
>Actually well drawn = can't evoke emotion
>You have a fetish for really bad art.
Wow. You're crazy. Hahaha
I see no problem with >>2107105
OP is very beautiful and >>2107479 is old Nakamura, it took a little getting used to like it took a little getting used to reading right to left but it's hasn't bothered me since and her characters are very pretty/handsome
sage for failed deviantartists turning /y/ into a bitchfest
It's a she, and she probably does. I think she posts on /pco/ and know she posts on rule34.
At the risk of exposing myself as a huge Iron Man fanatic and being nitpicky, I will say it wouldn't necessarily kill him. It's all about timing. He made it all the way down to the original arc reactor after all. His life could be saved by ~premature ejactulation~. ...that said, arc reactor danger is my very very specific kink. Kinda wish another artist would take a crack at the idea.
Porn so as to justify this long rambling.
I was just gonna walk right past this thread till I saw this - seriously? You're gonna say that Bayonetta is worse than the OP pic?
Bayonetta has elongated proportions - limbs and neck. That's it. OP has that, plus some - scary alien/ animu facial proportions, skull deformation, wacky yaoi hands and so on.
Not to mention that the final look for Bayonetta was a stylistic choice - the original design sketches were entirely normal looking, anatomy wise. They chose to keep the wacky anatomy look consciously. OP did not. Op's pic is a result of learning animu before anatomy.
Well, you are free to think that way. I see nothing bad about expressing negative opinion about art style as long as you don't attack artist personally.
I'm a fan of Zettai Shoujo, but I can see why some people find his anatomy terrible. I hate yaoi hands and balloon muscles but I recognize that for some people it's a fetish.
It wasn't that much of an assumption - their work is clearly more informed by anime style than naturalism. I didn't say that was a bad thing, just that it's far and away more stylised than Bayonetta - and the specifics of those stylings are what make it uncomfortable to look at.
This is from the same artist
it fucking blinks at you
I never said it wasn't pretty, or that I didn't like it. I'm an illustrator, I fully understand artistic license
I was specifically saying that the reasons anon has for hating Bayonetta are even more applicable to the OP pic because the similarities are even more pronounced - elongated and exaggerated features etc
Get y'allself off your rags, k
But it's clear the artist in OP draws that way for a stylistic choice, no matter if said choice is intentional or just how they decided to develop their drawing skills: they are aware that's not how people work. Plus, OP makes it seems like the picture is all bad, when it still has an amazing color choice, great decorations and very pretty clothes.
Anyway, I'm not saying Bayo is bad: Bayo is super excellent, Mari Shimazaki is really good and much better than the artist in OP, but I wanted to say that then if such proportions are bad anatomy then all sort of long, haute-couture inspired stylization is bad anatomy.
This is how I saw it; I may be wrong, and you are still allowed to have your opinion, Anon.
/ic/ sure has done a lot of damage with its "lrn anatomy!!!! anatomie is all that matters!!!!" idiocy.
Then you have failed tumblrshitters trying to peddle their uninteresting wares wondering why Nakamura is popular.
How the fuck are you supposed to draw people correctly or even appealing with no knowledge of how the human body works or is constructed? There's a reason foundations and basics are taught before exploration is encouraged, you can piss and moan about MUH STYLE all you want but it's easy to tell who actually bothered to sit down and study anatomy and who draws humans that end up right in the middle of the uncanny valley.
And then when someone explores outside your tunnel vision you scream MUH ANATOMY IT CAN'T BE A STYLE even though it fits ALL requirements of style. Fuck off, you've shown you're the one who can't tell shit. Uncanny vallet my ass.
>I see nothing bad about expressing negative opinion about art style as long as you don't attack artist personally
... but attacking the fans by calling them crazy or telling them not to justify their opinion is A-OK.
Not that anon, but you're a fucking dimwit. You're turning what's a discussion of artistic merit into a discussion of what's artistic style.
Artists who make these mistakes have learned to draw humans the /wrong way/. There is a /wrong way/ to draw humans because there is more to art than style. Before an object can be rendered, you have to understand how to draw the basic porportions of what you're drawing.
Let's use an example from another art, cooking. Let's say you're making a simple meal - how about chili? Chili is a simple stew comprised of a heavily spiced broth, ground beef or pieces of steak and assorted veggies. Before you can introduce new ingredients or detract ingredients from this formula, you first have to understand how to put together this formula.
If a person makes you a chili with no salt, and giant hunks of onions in it - it's bad chili. They've misunderstood how to make proper chili. If the person's response to your criticism is that this is merely their style of chili, you'd be well within your rights to call them fucking retarded - the chili is shitty due to /technical error/, not due to some taste or stylistic difference.
It's not hard to understand.
>Pro-tip: no bad artist is selectively bad.
/a/ of all places pointed that out about Nakamura and someone immediately jumped to WELL IT MUST BE HER ASSISTANTS, SHE HAS GOOD ASSISTANTS... forgetting that assistants draw under the orders of the mangaka and she likely didn't have assistants when she was still unknown, like back when she published Mangetsu Monogatari.
I never even been on /ic/, anon. This is common artistic theory. This isn't some sort of fringe thing that only the most hubris-filled of artists adhere to, or something. This is 101.
FYI, look at the most distorted renditions of the human form, and even they don't make the anatomical mistakes that some of the shitty artists in this thread make.
Pro-tip: No artist on Deviant Art is selectively good.
this picture makes me uncomfortable....
I've definitely seen this guy's work around here. Always good for a laugh.
I have this in my reaction folder for some reason.
why do they look like fucking ducks
reminds me of this
Oh dear god I thought his right hand was his dick in this pic
Love how many people don't understand artistic consistency. OP's picture is way too detailed in color and stylation so the eye is drawn to the wonky anatomy. Also it is clear the picture is supposed to come off as "romantic" or "sensual" but instead gives vibes of morbidity by the scale of the limbs and fingers. It's corpses paper thin with stretched out skeletons. If it were for the intent of horror, then I would say well done. But it wasn't.
Even the most stylized professional artists must study anatomy extensively and practice how to draw the body so that their works won't appear as a bunch of toothpicks covered in a damp napkin loosely tied together with string. Something that could not possibly live or move in any world.
That artist was clearly showing what was wrong with the picture, not to fix it. It's evident by the fact that nothing is changed in the "redline".
Spoilers: Just because it's red doesn't mean it's a damn redline. This is fucking obvious shit, man.
>Even the most stylized professional artists must study anatomy extensively
Lol no they don't. You art nazi's wish it was that way but I guess reality is too obvious for you to notice.
>their works won't appear as a bunch of toothpicks covered in a damp napkin loosely tied together with string
But it doesn't appear like that? They look like bodies
>Also it is clear the picture is supposed to come off as "romantic" or "sensual" but instead gives vibes of morbidity by the scale of the limbs and fingers.
No, it comes off as quite sensual.
>Something that could not possibly live or move in any world
But it's already existing in the picture? Jesus what a retarded thing you're saying.
You're spreading this art nazi cancer all over 4chan. Why don't you get over the fact that people like styles you don't like and stop shitting on every board. The bullshit you like is a bunch of crap that deserves that nobody cares about anyway.
>I can judge people's abilities by their choices
>except making something that doesn't bother people while ignoring the "fundamentals" is actually harder than the reverse
>also I'm totally not OP samefagging guise
>I'm not the person who "redlined" said picture
>That picture, like I've said, wasn't a fucking redline to begin with. It was just showing what the original artist has drawn; can you not read?
People are comparing single images to manga. I think the whole yaoi anatomy thing comes from inconsistencies in how the characters are drawn and how they compare with each other as well as anatomy and aesthetic.
But then I know fuck all about art. I just like laughing at some of the stranger parts of the genre.
The way they talk, as in the way they communicate their understanding of concepts. Like how they sound like every single 'muh style' tartlet who can't draw. I'm not saying it's 100% assured that I'm right on that point - just that the shoe fits, and nothing is being to prove me wrong.
>I don't see youtr drawings being posted here
Not sure what your point is there - is something being posted on /y/ suddenly a sign of good work? Does the collective userbase of /y/'s taste in art somehow confer some kind of status as a good artist? I don't think so.
It would be odd to see my work being posted here, though, given that I don't draw yaoi stuff anyway - outside of the occasional drawthread request. Most of my stuff would break thread rules.
>same to you nigger
I still didn't make the thread, my lovely
>let's have some of the best worst /y/ art you've come across.
most of /y/ is a huge joke, multiple of the same image in the same thread, more than 60% of the board isn't even porn or laughably and needlessly censored
This thread is a good example of the abusive attitudes that can cripple artists. If you want to create this kind of crap will only hold you back and make learning an unpleasant task. Honestly, there's so many loving, well adjusted people out there who will assist you in learning while giving good tips you can completely avoid anyone who's the least bit sour and unlikable.
Being a dick isn't the same as being smart, in fact it's smarter to be supportive because strong, capable people will follow their hearts anyway. If you remove this ability you remove another artist from the world.
>fails the fundamentals
>doesn't understand that stylization that doesn't bother people unless you're an autistic nitwit isn't a failure at all and did not nail the fundamentals but also pushed them right
Congratulations on forever being a third rate commissions artist.
>So by that logic, I can scribble on a canvas and say it's just as good as your standard Renaissance work.
FFS we had gotten over this shit with Kandinskij, fuck off already. People like what you don't like, what you like is probably ugly boring shit nobody cares about, now go kill yourself instead of shitting up /y/. And OP is a goddamn beautiful picture.
>calls shitty art any stylization she doesn't like
>is too blinded by her autism to see the fundamentals are right there and have been stretched on purpose
Are you retarded or what? Yeah, I see that anatomy isn't realistic. I don't give a shit, it's much prettier than a lot of drawings with realistic anatomy that don't mean a shit to me. fuck off already retard.
It's a humor thread friend, if you can't take constructive criticism then you'll never improve. I agree that supporting and offering tips does leagues more than "lol that's pretty awful m8."
Constructive criticism is not "I want you to draw shit exactly like I want and not like you want".
Like OP who is a pixiv artist and obviously knows what they're doing. They don't need you trying to force them to draw something they have no interest in drawing.
ITT: retards who think realistic = well-drawn.
The drawing in OP uses its own proportions and they balance. The anatomy has been distorted on purpose and that's called a stylization. The composition is good and the colouring is fantastic.
Whoever made that redline fails at art and thinks the more photorealistic the better which is complete shit taste.
>act abusive and weird enough over pictures that people question just what you're mad about
>it's just a joke, it's humor, you're just sensitive
>you NEED me or you'll never improve!!!
I see you guys, some of out, are text book borderline crazy or otherwise severely deluded about life. Once you start down the path to blaming others for this shit stream coming from you you've already slipped into insanity.
It's not. I've read part of the manga and highly recommend it's comedy gold qualities in both art and storyline. It's called Bodyguard, or Kimiyoshi in the original Japanese and you can find it on pretty much any sketchy hosting site, or you can actually buy a physical copy because this is what publishers know the English speaking audience wants.
Here's another example of the f-ed up perspective.
>opinions are like dicks
>some like shoving them down people's throat
>some like getting opinions shoved down their throats
>but the majority of us don't
Why all these underage drama queens are getting so assangry over a humour thread?
These works are objectively heinous and you should feel bad for actually defending this travesty.
Ugh, I came here to laugh, not read bullshit arguments over some crappy piece of art. If I wanted to hear whiny idiots screaming over each other, I'd browse tumblr.
I swear the heads get smaller every time I see this.
is nobody going to talk about this abomination?
I actually learned recently that having a penis head that is upside down is an actual thing that happens irl. Rare but still...it happens. Doesn't make the art any better...
because it is a shitty game with shitty art?
Good pornish art is when you can fap on it. Well drawn or not, it is still successful if you feel excited. I can fap on anything here, but it probably means that I have more imagination and libido than a lot of you, whiny haters.
op, i am so glad this thread is still alive.
it's like a natural moebius-strip progression of the bullshit "don't like don't look haters!! XD XD XD" trotted out by shitty crybaby fanartists, except at this point it's the shitty crybaby fanartist-fans going into a thread clearly labeled as critical and then sobbing that they don't like the criticism. freaking love it.
as if op needed to fake other people? who is the one supposed to be projecting here?
> valid points
> you want everyone to stop liking what you don't like
shine on, courageous yaoi art defender
> inflammatory post labeled as op samefagging for support
> supposed op accused of projecting when they summarize months-old butthurt
> two posts within 60 seconds missing the implication for the chance to deride the opposition
perfect, did you plan this for me
keep going, i'm rooting for you
Maybe he has a big dick?
But the hips?
But the pants?
anyone have the classic yugioh picture?
I don't regular /y/ intensively, and it amazes me the few and sparse times I've came on, this threads been up. The twenty first of August,
I've had this on my computer for so long finally it's my time to shine
Fujoshi don't like bara, fags want more bara, so fags try to make fujoshi mad with nitpicking and making up imaginary rules about stylization. See
the styles are not realistic as all manga is not realistic but they work anyway, they are not unpleasant at all. I like them. Don't see what autists are complaining about.
I have never heard a woman say that they find someone's hands or a type of hand "hot". And people can complain about whatever they want to complain about, like how you're complaining about the complaining.
Dude have you never seen tumblr?? People fetishize every body part of celebrities. There are posts dedicated to the freckle on Cumberbatch's neck. Women liking hands is not uncommon at all.
Complain about whatever you want but don't pretend you know everything about what women like just because you personally have not heard it come out of a woman's mouth. Get out of the basement.
I loved anime when I was 15 and my ex was in love with OGN and made me read it.
There's a difference between being angelic and being an idiot with literally no understanding of the world and a severe case of Stockholm syndrome.
"Oh, but this abusive fucker twice my age who raped me multiple times and wants to control every single aspect of my life is actually such a good sweet guy because he made me cum and it felt good kyaa~~ uguuu~~~"
You might as well read 50 Shades of Grey and mentally replace the main female character with a 12 year old boy.
I'm not saying it doesn't exist, anon friend. I'm just saying I doubt that's why yaoi artists draw them gigantic due to the fact it's probably very niche. Probably more likely that they just can't draw hands.
Also they obsess with the freckle because it's on a celeb they already find attractive. Get your head out of your own ass please before you tell me to get out of the basement.
>anon disagrees with your opinion and possibly insults something that you happen to like
>on an anonymous image-based internet forum dedicated to Japanese cartoons
>you proceed to personally insult said anon with regards to his love life
ye but he's an adult with the mentality of a little boy, and as far as I'm concerned that makes it creepier and more abusive than Boku no Pico, where it's just a little boy. At least with Boku no Pico it's instantly obvious that it's shota and should be avoided by people who don't like that kind of thing.
I'm not. The delicious angst, drama, comedy, passion and realizing your love. And fuck I like the art too. That guy is an idiot, people who don't have erotic rape fantasies shouldn't watch yaoi.
Except as a general rule, women aren't attracted to the same things in men that most gay men are attracted to. It's not that there aren't guys who are attracted to the kinds of waif-like borderline-traps who show up in yaoi made for women, I actually tend to prefer feminine, weaker guys as a gay male (though I'm not at all averse to more masculine fare), but even I'm a bit of an outlier. Women don't want the same things out of porn that men do, at least as a general rule.
I'm not trying to argue about it or take up too much space, I'm just saying, there's kind of a reason bara is marketed primarily to gay men; muscles aren't usually the turn-on for women that men think they are, and if it's primarily sex without some kind of intimate emotional connection, fujoshis might not find it quite to their liking. Anyways, just clearing that up.
Man this is great. So lovely to see all the fujoshis getting their panties in a twist because not everyone appreciates their shittily written 50 Shades-tier "erotic rape fantasies" (which by the way I personally enjoy very much, but not when they're so horribly executed).
Man, when did /y/ become full of grills? Maybe I just hadn't noticed it before but this place is turning into tumblr 2.1
>> Yaoi board
>> Not understanding that yaoi is a genre for women, by women.
If you want a porn board full of men, try the yuri board. Yaoi really has nothing to do with gay men, or what they find attractive. It's a projection fantasy for women. Don't like it? Go have tea with the feminists who hate lesbian porn
Can we please get back to posting hilariously bad pics?
I'm never AM one to argue "muh style" but in this case this is clearly exaggerated anatomy with the purpose of visual appeal. The rest of the art on this thread is shit, however.
I personally quite like this one. You can tell this is mainly a stylistic choice by positioning and the continuity and even distribution of the limb elongation.
It's kinda sad the kind of shitty art we'll put up with just because the characters are both consenting adults. I mean, forgiving these melting ass faces just because "oh well, at least it's not rape"? Pathetic.
But seriously, what is it
>clearly exaggerated anatomy with the purpose of visual appeal
That goes for all pro pictures in this thread only faggots cannot accept girls don't like the same things they like. On the yaoi board, a genre that's nothing but porn for women.
I like Okane ga nai and I see nothing wrong with its art. It's unrealistic but it pleases me. Deal with it, cunts.
The butthurt in this thread is fucking hilarious. I knew fujoshit yaoifags were deluded, but holy shit.
Literally everyone in this thread that's mad about yaoi needs to calm the fuck down and post more shit.