>>17358514 I believe in the regular jedu-christian hell. Demons, hellfire, brimstone, sulfur, old scratch and all that. I used to be terrified of hell when I was a practicing Christian but now it's just an interesting and macabre place, even though most of the people who say they've seen it are liars and scammers.
I'm pretty sure it's mild debilitating torture. kinda like moping the kitchen for forever. You clean it and then next day it looks like someone just threw jelly everywhere. And don't forget to throw all your papers in the floor for me to pick up. Thanks for that nigga I guess the trash can was just too far away. I do a lot of house work if you haven't guessed.
>>17358514 hell is quite litterally your deepest fears exploited for all eternity. for instance, someone who's claustrophobic would e constantly crushed by enclosing walls, an arachnophobic would be tortured by spiders, and some scared of the dark would be locked in an infinite dark space with invisible demons or whatever. hell plays on your deepest fears to make eternity hell for you
This is hell. We are literally trapped clinging to an exploding ball of rock that circles a giant ball of fire so hot that it melts atoms. We selfishly and destructively consume whatever we can whilst holding little regard for anybody else. We've created warring factions who take great pleasure in the murder and misery of others, and whose aim is to control the masses using fear, blackmail and oppression.
>>17358514 The idea of hell differs Personally I don't believe in hell but I think if it exists, then each hell is everyone's personal hell consisting of their darkest fears and things that piss each individual off. Souls(if we have them) don't feel physical pain so it might be emotional/psychological hence why I think It consists of fears.
>>17358514 I think we don't accept the idea of Hell because we're too weak. In truth, hell isn't an unfair reality. It's a place where beings acquire needed teachings. Of course it's sad, but not more than the actions bringing you into it.
>>17358514 Hell is a state of mind, just like heaven. Right now is all that exists. You can choose to make hell or it or heaven of it. Choose to be happy right now in the present moment and you've once again escape hell. Choose to fester on negative thoughts and you are creating your own hell.
YOU are in control. Not some big daddy in the sky. God is being in itself. Not a separate entity. If you were not you I cannot be I. If I could not be I you could not be you. Therefore, we are one. We make up the everything-ness that is divinity.
>>17359241 We experience suffering because we have an addiction to meaning. Without thought, we come to the realization that we only have right now. With thought, we interpret the present moment. We assign it a positive or negative meaning. If one is completely involved in the present moment, mental and emotional suffering cannot originate. People refer to "The Void" as being something scary. "The Void" is simply a state of mind without thought that can be achieved via meditation. It is a state of mind where there is only objectivity. You are not assigning meaning to the present moment, you are simply viewing it AS IT IS. Heaven is assigning positive meaning to the present moment. Hell is assigning negative meaning. There only ever has been right now. Right now is infinity. There is no timescale for the present moment. By involving yourself fully in the present moment, you have achieved eternal life. Heaven and enlightenment are different words for the same experience.
I once had an lsd trip where I felt as if I was judged before and sentenced to hell. A rageful disembodied head screamed at me my sins and a world of various tortures outlined before me was revealed. I told myself over and over to not bite my tongue off, as I opened and closed my teeth and moved my tongue to avoid this (I gnashed my teeth likewise). I saw various tortured like an alien bursting from my chest and infinitely revolving into myself. When I finally thought it was over and I was safe, the head came back and it repeated.
>>17358514 As a Christ-ian, it's pretty difficult for me to believe in hell. It just doesn't make sense to me, and even if it's "a thing", I don't know how it's going to be justified as a fair punishment.
>>17358514 You get to experience your sins through the eyes of all people you've hurt, in full emotional context. Experience their lives up to and beyond your crimes. Then, when you walked a mile in their shoe's, you get to re-experience your life. Knowing full well what is going to happen but unable to change the chain of events that led you astray.
Hell is a metaphorical place. I believe that every choice has a right and wrong decision. We tend to be short sighted so we usually go with the wrong choice, this causes feedback on a fundimental level. The feedback causes never ending adversity for the person who made the wrong choice. Heance Hell. The less you make the wrong choice the less your adversity becomes. If you make all the right choices then that is heaven.
Its like we all live in a current we can't perceive and each decision we make is either a choice to go with or against that current
>>17359476 He is both. A seperate entity and also part of us. "All good things come from God" this also means in ourselves. Everything humans idolize and find noble about themselves God is the direct source of
>>17358896 There is no torture in hell. Because pain, as we know it can't exist in hell. Pain is just a physical reaction when we are being brought close to a death like state. But when you are in hell, you are dead, so there is no death to fear and thus no pain.
>>17361152 When we get to heaven we will finally see God. Right now we can only feel the leftover of his presence. In heaven we will actually feel Him. His glory will be so great and fill us with such joy that shouting out will be the only way to release that happiness. Kind of like when you are so happy you can't stop smiling. Only better
Some Catholic theologians such as Karl Rahner, Gisbert Greshake, and Cardinal Hans Urs von Balthasar have at length discussed the possibility that any man may be led by a final grace to freely willed repentance if necessary at least at some point in the process of dying. This possible process is described thus by the late Munich dogmatic Prof. Michael Schmaus: "If in terms of theology death is a meeting of a man with God in so far as God calls man and he answers obedience, readiness and love, it would be surprising if in the moment of dying the chances of taking position never were given, even contrary to the outward look. One cannot apply to experience as counter-argument, because what happens then in the interior and behind the physiological processes is only known by someone who experiences dying itself, and this unto its very end. We may assume that in the dissolving process of the earthly union of body and soul and with the progressing breakaway from earthly entanglements, a special awakeness accrues to man in which he can say yea or nay to God."
Balthasar was careful to describe his opinion that Hell might be empty as merely a hope, but even this claim was rejected by most conservative Catholics, including Cardinal Avery Dulles. The Syllabus says in no. 17 that we may not (even) hope for the salvation of all non-Catholics; this seems to mean conversely that there is at least one non-Catholic in all history who will not be saved. Matthew 7:21–23 seems to say that "many" will be reproved; of course many need not be many statistically because even one would be too much in a respect, however many seems to be at least some and not nobody.
>>17360209 Wow not lieing same thing happened to me took way too much lsd n though iwasin hell being tortured bythedevil or godformy sins n it felt like a was there for eternity.I also felt like I was being born again na load other shit. My outlook on life has changed since
>>17358514 I don't believe in eternal Hell, because I don't think it makes sense to punish someone forever for a mere human lifetime's worth of sins. Purgatory makes more sense, like a prison sentence or something. Even then, I think you'd have to do some REALLY bad stuff to even go to Purgatory.
>>17361708 >Implying those entities wouldn't see the moral and logical problems with eternal Hell even when many among the "lesser" species realize those problems even with their "inferior" minds >Implying that superior intellect inherently means they'd be more inclined to cruelty rather than less >Assuming that the judgements and thought processes of these entities would be incomprehensible to us based on absolutely no evidence whatsoever
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