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This sign is called the Chi Rho, Buddha is making it on the

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This sign is called the Chi Rho, Buddha is making it on the left, Christ on the right (first two fingers are Χ, the rest Ρ).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Rho

Buddhism was enormously influenced by Christianity, and a lot of the things we started considered "ancient Eastern wisdom", with the advent of Orientalism, actually originated with Christianity.

For instance, “mantra” and “japa” (mantra meditation) just meant a regular prayer in Eastern religions until a while after Christians started using constant repetitions. The earliest Buddhist canon, which is the Pali canon, dates from 29 BC and make no mention of mantra meditation. Christian meditation dates back to the OT (Genesis 24:63). Joshua 1:8 says to keep the Law constantly on your lips, to meditate on it day and night. The word translated as “meditate” here, means to mutter or growl quietly. Paul says to “pray without ceasing” (1 Thessalonians 5:17) The earliest extensive written instructions on Christian mantra meditation, were authored by Saint John Cassian, in 420 AD, at the behest of Bishop Castor of Apt. The earliest account of Buddha as we think of him now was written by Buddhaghosa, and dates from around the same time Saint John Cassian was writing (earlier accounts of Buddha are closer to something out of Homer). The Visuddhimagga, Buddhaghosa’s extensive meditation manual, makes no mention of mantras; here meditation is focusing on something (or focusing on precisely nothing), but none of the instruction says anything about use of mantras in meditation. The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, from the 4th Century AD, mention mantras, but here they have nothing to do with mediation, they’re invocations used to gain power over things, probably the identical sense to what they were for Brahmin priests. As for Hinduism, their most famous mantra, the Hare Krishna, was not used for constant repetition or meditation until 16th Century AD, when it was popularized by Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.
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>>17339417
This is very interesting

>>17339423
cool
>https://discord.gg/0k3oVnvCQfKzFsri
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>>17339417
Wow I assumed you were going to say Christianity ripped off Buddhism but you surprised me.
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>>17339457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCRD7ZddPZo
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>>17339417
Some say that Christ during the so-called missing years of his historical account studied in India and Tibet though, don't they?
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>>17339417
>tfw Jesus and Buddha were both closet faggots
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>>17339860
>tfw you get dont get paid to shitpost
>mfw reading your shitpost
>yfw suicide watch again
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>>17339502
t. mohammed
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Actually i read a really interesting book called "christianity, a journey from reality to fiction"

This boom makes a point in which states that jesus didnt really die bit he actually went to india and grave his teachings there...
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>>17339502
is that what they taught you in homeschool?
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>>17339417
>Buddhism was enormously influenced by Christianity
>Buddhism influenced by christianity
stopped reading after that, are you really that fucking retarded?!
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>>17339417
That's that hand sign that pepe frog does all of the time.
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>>17339417
That's not Buddhism though. It's the bullshit that is called "Buddhism" by the unenlightened masses who make up the Buddhist "faith." Buddha never meant to create a religion, become a deity, devise a cosmology, or any of 95% of what modern Buddhism consists of. The Buddha wanted to create an empirically confirmed discipline for transcending the suffering that is synonymous with existence. Of course, what he was trying to do got derailed the second he died and mundane humans started doing what they do best and creating dogmas and superstitions to surround him and his teachings with. Of course, the exact same is true of Christianity, and if either the Buddha or Christ saw what became of their teachings and novel insights into existence, they would shake their heads. Tl;dr none of what you are saying was influenced by Christianity in Buddhism actually has any relevance to the Buddha's teachings (of course, neither does it have any connection to Christ's, it is merely one superstition leading another in the name of two great men who were far beyond the trifles this concerns).
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>>17340013
>>17339957
Fucking Morons.

Especially >>17339957

>>17340013 is more than likely fond of the phrase "but no one's tried real communism!"
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>>17339957
Where do you think Christ went when he was missing for 30 years? Training with the spiritual masters of the east
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>>17340117
proof or gtfo
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>>17340117
Buddhism was around for several hundred years before Christ even exist you dumb cunt. Learn2history
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>>17339417
It was the other way around Christianity = Buddhism
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"Where did Jesus go for 33 years?" He was traversing the spine of humanity. You will begin to see that numerical events have been constructed around the persona known as Jesus, in order to tell a astrological story, and in order to speak to those who can hear.
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>>17340632
>He was traversing the spine of humanity.

Very subtle. I see what you did there, You're correct in some ways. But I would take it a step further and say that not only is it telling an astrological story, but also one of the human body.
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>>17340496
this.
nice try op.
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>>17339945
then to north america to convert joseph smith with magic tablets that only he can see
>mormons
>smart
pick none.
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>>17340968
Highly doubt Jesus walked all the way to America, but he coulda flown there.
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>>17339945
I've read the opposite, that Jesus went to india -something very common for those seeking wisdom in those times, like Alejandro did- and learned from Buddhism, then returned to his land and teach his interpretations
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>>17341732
yes you are right.
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>>17340013
This. For those who have really make a research about real Buddhism, not the religious one, it is clear that it lacks of concepts, since the teachings are experiences instead. For instance, reincarnation as a concept is part of the religious interpretation, that's why it sounds like a silly tale, Christian style (you know, reborn in animals and that bullshit). But it's really about the experience of being always you, the realizing of the existence as present, because we remember things in present, and when we think in the future we do it in present too, so you are always you, even in your dreams or on drugs. There's not unconsciousness, there's not a time when you awake. There's no change of state. You are always you. But again, it's an experience, not a concept.
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>>17340979
He just died and was reborn there. It's an extremely painful form of teleportation.
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>>17341755
Oh, and after you experience that, rethink the samsara, you'll be surprised ;]
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>>17341770
>Buddhism was enormously influenced by Christianity
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>>17341793
That's a empty post. How are you feeling posting for the first time, kid?
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>>17341835
Feels nice pointing how retarded this place is, you included.
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>>17341847
>ofended christian detected
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>>17339417
This is an amazing thread
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>>17341847
Christian detected
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>>17341793
lel
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>>17341848
>>17341850
>>17341853
Does your monitor get soaked with moisture from all that mouth breathing?
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>>17341847
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>>17339417
>The Visuddhimagga, Buddhaghosa’s extensive meditation manual, makes no mention of mantras; here meditation is focusing on something (or focusing on precisely nothing), but none of the instruction says anything about use of mantras in meditation.

Azns thinking white people and their silly fantasies actually works.

Also after you breach the aperture of history unfortunately cast upon culture and civilization by the Christians, you find all religious and magical primal sources come from places not considered a cultural center in modern times. There are no 'peoples' by which we can say they stole these things for there are no names save the Nords which we can say they shamed in practice.
This is partially because the library of Alexandria was burned and the trend of 'history being written by the victor' or as I say 'bitch-ass disease', also partially because of the decline of magic. Take this example for instance, the change from the Gods and Theurgy of Sumeria to the locally centered Pagan dispersions which were ousted by the Holy Romans compared from the Pagans to the Catholics, the rituals simply become less specific. They focus on the whole of 'Apotheosis' rather than the numerous Laws and Aspects through which much advancement in physics and other sciences was made in Persia for example, which still today gets robbed because of their initial ascertaining of the sciences.

I think all this is to blame on a decline in French Templar-like magic, which eventually deluded into
>a while after Christians started using constant repetitions.

Also what does OP think of Majutsu and KujiKiri?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuji-kiri
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there always was an influence on Christianity from Dharmic religions, as early Christianity developed more or less along the silk road. If the Nicene Creed had not wiped out so much of Christianity's traditions as "heresy" more of these influences would be evident today. What survives of Gnostic Christianity shows a lot of influence from Dharmic religion.
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>>17340496
Got any historical evidence to back up that claim?
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>>17339417
those arent even both the same hand signal look at the index and middle fingers
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The Universal Action extends beyond what you're displaying here.
I'm an atheist, and even I understand that microcosmic and macrocosmic relationships share many similarities, although there are sharp differences between them as well.
Microcosmic "creation" [recycling of particles] and macrocosmic processing/interaction follow set rules.
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>>17339417
where have we seen that hand sign before? Hmmm....

PRAISE KEK
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>>17342974
More in depth explaination
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>>17343052
I just realized I misspelled "Enlightenment".
Also, the diagram follows from the bottom up.
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Y'all ever want to know of your chi is manifested? Or achieve inner peace? Astral project? Tired of squinting really hard, giving yourself headaches, followed by a rough masturbation session? Ill give you a trick code.

>Find a comfortable place, somewhere where you can be alone.

>Sit cross cross, sit straight up meditate. Focus on your breathing and body,clear your head. All while both hands are poses in Chi Roh. In a perfect position. No moving. Not one inch, nor centimeter, nor milliliter. Nothing. Still. Once you've achieved this, you are free to do as you please, you are in peace.

Buddha was a happy man.
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>>17342957
Not him but yes there are countless documents which show Gautama Buddha lived a few centuries before Jesus.
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>>17341861
This is the most underrated post in the history of /x/.

>>17342957
I made that post, why don't you do yourself a god damn favor and do a quick Google search and unfuck your faggotry yourself instead of talking like a cockface and listening to whatever incompetent bullshit you hear on YouTube. Better yet enroll yourself into college and take some history/religion classes, expand your horizons you gayblade. It's common knowledge that Buddhism predates Christianity.
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>>17343488
And thank you sir, for being a knowledgeable human being.
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>>17340130
>Where do you think Christ went when he was missing for 30 years?

In the UK with his mothers uncle and learning druidry duh. or you know doing boring carpenter shit. Fact of the matter is EVERYONE wants to claim they taught him during that period of time.
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>>17342657
>the library of Alexandria
fug why do you have to remember me of that
i'm not even a /lit/fag or religious/spiritual but it makes me feel sad whenever libraries, temlples, statues and other shit get destroyed. in particular when mudslimes do it, they were once one of the masterraces of science and education a thousand years ago after all.
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>>17339882
>mfw dealing with an autist
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>>17345197
I keep thinking that the Romans burned the library.
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>>17343488
>>17344495
That's funny, no records of Buddhism exist until well after Christ. It's almost like it was made up and total bullshit or something...
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>>17343488
>Jesus can into Altered Beast
>implying Jesus can't into Chrono Trigger
Vimana = Jesus' TARDIS he used to traverse time and space to inspire Buddha, drop nukes ancient India and Jewland, build pyramids, and shape crystals into skulls.
WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
>tfw Jesus is here shitposting on this truth filled thread because he's that big of a dick
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>>17345414
What's also funny, no records of America exists until well after Britain. But we all know who won history in the end, don't we.
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>>17345426
>comparing the existence of solid continents to bullshit fake religions
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>>17339457
>>17339417
it is often speculated that the gap in Jesus life that isnt recorded in the bible is due to a trip around the world that Jesus took. Some say that he travelled to modern day India and they interpreted his teachings and idolized him as the buddha.

>chi-rho
not illuminati symbolism during medieval days
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>>17340968
Top kek
Mormons aren't inherently bad people, just have ridiculous, ever changing religious standing.
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>>17341755
>This

Is what life is about, regardless of the events transpired or the feelings of the moment. This has always been my personal "bigger picture". To just BE and to take from this and every experience.
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>>17341793
This image is a clear sign of actual retards, indicated rather by those who post it or take it seriously than anything it actually says.
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>>17339417
is it just me, or does the chi rho resemble the shocker?
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>>17346003
Two in the "real" and one for the "feel"
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>>17345414
That's funny, you're completely ignoring facts and talking out of your asshole for the sake of being an incompetent fuck. It's almost like you want to be retarded.
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>>17346019
hahahaha
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>>17345414
>>17345463
The Edicts of Ashoka, the first proof of Buddhism, was recorded some 200 years before Christ you imbecile.
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>>17339502
Enough of your heresy you dirty heretic scum
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>>17339417
U fucking retarded
>Buddhism was way here before your shitty christianity
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Any amateur historian can disprove this.

There's nothing in the 20th century or 21st century that stipulates that Christ traveled further than Alexander the Great to spread his word to the east.

Please pick up Will Durant's 'Our Oriental Heritage' to get a brief glimpse as to why you're wrong. He may know a bit more than you and i, seeing as how he dedicated his entire life to the research of civilization and its origins/influences.
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>>17341793
What the fuck is weishaupt's plateau?
Google searching brings 0 results
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>>17341732
>>17339945
Jesus was raised by his handlers to be a messiah figure. He was brought up in an ancient monastery in Jerusalem which was a sect of masonry or an even older group known as the brotherhood of the snake out of egypt, and pushed towards enlightenment. He knew that if he proclaimed himself the Messiah they would kill him, something like only 5% of his actual teachings have survived.

Jesus caused a big stir when he went to India by conversing with all of the castes despite being welcomed into the upper scholarly caste. In India, teaching thee lower castes the steps towards enlightenment and etc was not okay. He wound up having to flee.

Same shirt happened again in Jerusalem
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>>17346556
where can i buy that shirt?
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>>17346295
But Earth didn't exist 200 years before Christ.
If the Earth wasn't real, how can we Buddha?
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>>17345982
Angry simpleton detected.
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>>17345197
Fuck you spawn of Lillith and Cain, I am Nubian.
I just want to know the names of my fucking gods, I am a magi with some ability which needs guidance and I have to explain this shit in the tradition which was stolen, re-edited, and had the names switched to the Jew names of Akkadia when the true arcane power came from Atlantis, Mu, Khem, and the pre Slave Russians (or the Wends under Zir)

Of course all these sacred texts were burned or kept secret as the only writings the church has preserved would allow the attempt of heresy, never really letting you get real power so the state could execute you.

>>17345512
'Illuminati' just means you might shit a shiny if you do the work and pay attention, this type of exercise (its called Majuitsu) would have originated from the Ancestors of the Modern (recorded) Chinese. The traditions I've heard make it sound like a more complex form of Solomanic Magic (drawing geometry about and burning incense whilst chanting) however the MAGI (those who Majuitsu-ed) only needed paper or grassless earth.

>>17346556
All his teaching survived, this is simply not public knowledge.
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if you watch man from earth buddah and jesus wa the same man
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Mithras preferred the v-sign ala coyote ears or the teachers watch her legs close
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>>17339417
>This sign is called the Chi Rho

Yes, and you have no evidence it was done ever outside of a painting by any actual real member of either judaism or christianity that actually is honest with his practice
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That is bullshit. The Baghavad Gita just for example was written centuries before Christ.
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>>17346473
/lit/ lies
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>>17339417
Except you have it backwards, you uneducated pleb. Buddhism began around 500 bce,, almost 600 full years before Christianity started to gain ground (seeing how the gospels weren't written until decades, possibly a full century after Jesus supposedly lived). The bible and christianity is also notorious for plagiarizing from other cultures and claiming they are there own, the best example being it's warped retelling of the flood story from the Epic of Gilgamesh, which predates the first writings of the bible by almost 2,000 years.

Get your facts straight and stop shilling your massive fucking deathcult, you monotheist mongrel.
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>>17348572
>Majutsu
In Chinese, as in the Mandarin variety spoken in the PRC, it's mo-shu. Japanese is not necessarily wrong, but it's not really original. They borrowed a lot from the other countries around them and even some European ones. I just thought I'd point that out there, while you're talking about cultural appropriation.
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>>17348844
Well put, but as a Magi I do not suffer form the shortsightedness of your (these guys) historic scope. 'Magic' as we know it now, I prefer the Arcane Arts, haven't really been seen since over 6000 years ago, as the Church loves to repeat as if they actually killed something. Most of culture is like the arcane arts of which I speak and are inherited and have evolved.

With the current public evidence archaeologists have submitted to academia or have been restricted via corrupt govts, the Chinese lands seem to be a bridge from Middle Earth, and may have even been the lighter side of the pre-Akkadian and Babylonian races of course mixed with Nubians and other pre Sahara races.

Basically I disagree with the claim of appropriation, as I would, in the mundane modern times, be speaking of their 'souls' or Kami more acutely (I don't know the Chinese equivalent word), but their Qi inclined master souls would in effect tend to agree with statements which are on the fringe of explanation.

If anything I'm bridging the gap; I want to know whats on the other side of the collapsed end of their tunnel systems, the geology there is fascinating, especially toward the North.
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>jesus goes missing for ~18 years
>buddha pops up
>buddha 'dies'
>jesus comes back

Hmmm
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>>17348881
>kami
The character that gave the Japanese this concept is pronounced "Shen".

>Qi
Same character for ki, with minor varient.
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>>17345414
Christ or Buddhism?
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>>17348572
>What's a Nubian?
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>>17339417
Looool OP doesn't know Buddhism totally existed way before Christianity.
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>>17345414
LOOOOL
what, did you want someone on this board to take a time stamp picture of their figure of Buddha with "3/17/454 BC" carved into it?

Buddhism existed long before Siddhartha Guatama lived in its infancy. Pretty much people trying to find a way to Enlightenment, whether it be starving themselves and subjecting themselves to as much physical suffering as possible or whatever.

It's well known by academic authorities he actually existed, but his life is debated still. Because it happened such a long time ago... Faggot.
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>>17349247
>>What's a Nubian?

Here`s a picture. The nubians are the dark figures getting purged by the pharaoh .
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>>17348935
Ahh I like you. I see some 3-6th century reconstructions include the pronunciation djinn, like the 'evil' spirits of the Arabic religions.
Supposedly anyway, this guy is the source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Fang-Kuei

>>17349247
Nubia is pretty much the NE corner of Africa. It goes all the way south to the lat. of the tip of Madagascar, as far west as what is now the Mid Sahara.

I think Nubians were the original supporters of the Greeks that came to Egypt as Gods (with slight ability) but later they needed more slaves and the Nubians (around when Atlantis was around) disapproved of the 'dark arts' of Atlantis, so if they thought they were Greek, they might not have got that so readily as gossip goes...

>>17348935
>>17348844
This guy needs to give me his/her Email or Skype.
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>>17349535
No problem.

Email: [email protected]
Skype: NegiSpringfieldof4ch

I used to be a tripfag and made these accounts for 4chan related things.
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>>17349295
You mean those same academic studies that proclaim Christ to be false and Mozart to be black? Excuse me if I have my doubts
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>>17349680
WE WUZ COMPOSERS AND SHIT!
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>>17339417

Christ is painted making that hand gesture because it symbolize the number of latters in His full name

In all versions of Byzantine icons, the right hand of our Savior is raised to bless. This gesture we meet at Orthodox priests who durring church services bless those present, religious objects that they use or gifts for holiness.

Placing the fingers of the right hand of the one who blesses is not accidental - but a form of monogram of JESUS CHRIST: IC XC - Thus, the index finger indicating the letter "iota" meaning "I"; middle finger, trough bending, resembles the letter "sigma", meaning "C"; ring finger, crossing the thumb, forming the latter "hi", which is "X"; also trough arch, bending, little finger is forming the letter "sigma", meaning "C".

Any blessing given by the priest or the holy icons reminds us of the Saviour Jesus Christ, because from Him comes the blessing upon all flesh. The priest himself confesses in the Divine Liturgy, when blesses people gathered in the sanctuary, that the blessing he gives is not his, but God's "Blessing of the Lord be upon all, with His Grace and His love of people." ( don't know if this is the exact formulation, mentally translating from my own language. )

No sorry, it has no connection with Chi Rho and what is mentioned in the OP, again it's a byzantine representation technique.
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>>17340632

Explain please very interesting
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>>17339957
Be silent
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>>17340013
This is true
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I have not read this article but it is of great interest. is it legit, and are these claims true? it sounds like there may be a Christian bias
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>>17349794
Read the explanation above:

>>17349720

Also read other replies in this posts...
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>>17349720

What a convinient afterthought explanation.
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>>17349906
It's the artistic, historical w/e reality.

The hand thing is present only in paintings and while priests give the blessings, Jesus never used that symbol during life time.

Research it on your own.

+ OP says Buddhism was influenced by Christianity which makes 0 logic.
I just wrote the post to clarify why Jesus is depicted in post-byzantine icons that way.
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>>17340506
Having studied both religions/philosophies I can assuredly say that Buddhism and what it teaches is a shadow of Christianity.

>>17340496
>>17340776
Learn to read OP stated that Christianity inspired the concept of mantra meditation, not that it inspired Buddha himself. The images depicting Buddha using Chi Ro might just be a coincidence or they may date from a time after Christ.
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>>17349394
A better picture right here
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>>17350133
Or you could learn to read you incompetent shit. Here is part of OP's post.

>Buddhism was enormously influenced by Christianity, and a lot of the things we started considered "ancient Eastern wisdom", with the advent of Orientalism, actually originated with Christianity.

You clearly don't know shit about history. It's apparent that you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>17348572
so all the true arcane power and mystical energies couldnt stop your race from getting BTFO, is this what youre telling me?

thats too bad.
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>>17348572
of course all the sacred texts were burned the church was clearly fearful of someone getting real power and doing damage. but lets forget they got a hold of them in the first place which means even at the height of your nubian power you got btfo and now you think the church is hiding it because theyre somehow weaker and couldnt blow you the fuck out again?

madness.
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>>17348572
no wait let me guess, theres a fucken prophecy, a prophecy of one so dark he will save your people. theres always one of those.
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>>17348914
buddah for before 500 years before jesus, although its theorised in jesus's lost years from 14-25 he was east, india way studying the ways of buddihsm
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>>17351577
My race wasn't under a 'treat from the devil' so we never had a reason to make a 'modern' city-state society, which we had long ago, at that time, and our version never lead to urban decay.

So yeah it's really too bad because your race is too pussy to do shit about it, and has been genetically designed for that eternal task.

>>17351583
I really hate christians for their stupidity; a logical capacity similar to yours.
But yeah my ancestors lost a war I had nothing to do with... Kinda wish I was there.

Sucks to have Gods that are psychopathic killers of their family/kin for social acceptance.

Not only sacred texts were burned, there were also extensive historical records, (we did way better than you fucking cannanites) medical sagas, scientific papers, and blueprints. Shit there may have been a periodic table, but to fucking Cavemen its Arcane scribbles from the Devil Himself!
Piss off.

>>17351586
Actually we are the mother race of all humanity... So yeah we have to stop our badass kids from fucking up all our other kids, ourselves, and the rest of life as we know it.

Our prophetic visionaries never even did that shit. Its a lack of metaphysical ability to assume what happened in Rome would eventually happen if everyone believes the same garbage. Our witchdoctors had 'prophecies' that if you had a fever, they could whip up a brew to save your ass, but for the future we actually trusted the people at the time to make the best decision, since praising dead people is not respecting them, but asking for more....
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>>17339417
>Buddhism was enormously influenced by Christianity

You've got that backwards. Christianity was enormously influenced by Buddhism. Nice try.
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>>17340117
Why do people care about stuff like this so much? Uncovering the history of a belief system isn't going to also uncover any sort of underlying truth of the universe or give your life meaning that isn't already there.
The point of life is to simply be alive. Focus your attention on the present moment, because it is all you have. Have fun with life and realize it's a huge playground where you get to play with other kids.

Everyone takes life so seriously, just sit back, have some fun, and spread the love.
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