Is Satan really such a bad guy? Yeah he had pride, but he was the favorite angel of the creator of the fucking universe. Yeah he tried to dethrone God, but he's a sick bastard. He didn't really kill anyone besides tricking God into killing Job and others. All he taught was to question everything and rebel.
Btw, I'm an atheist that just likes to talk about things.
OP, I am going to bring you up to speed:
That is the whole idea. That Satan is really such a bad guy and you don't want to be Satan if you're at all interested in doing things a certain way, a way society has deemed "right." Stay out of bars. Don't do drugs. So on and so forth. If you make the right things happen, the right things will happen for you. Satan will lead you astray. You just have to call it something or, unfortunately, nobody will know what you're talking about. You wanna go somewhere bad, go to hell. There you are.
...Satan's whole thing was that he was declaring himself higher than God, that he could flex bigger nuts than God. That is the essence of thinking for yourself and becoming master of your own self.
Satan is "bad" for the same reason that he is "edgy": as someone who questions, thinks out of the box, who brings the hidden and known truths towards illumination, Satan stands counter to the dominant narrative of obedience and slavery towards a given system.
A name which invokes the highest form of adversarial living, Satan is as bad as they get, in the sense that neither "bad" nor "good" does Satan concern itself with. Satan concerns itself with a primal individualized mastery of those who embrace the black flame
>god tell him to do anything to help humans
>satan eventually help humans
>god be like wut?
>satan get kick out of home
>become an Ayylmaos
>still helping us
>mfw satan didn't do nothing wrong
Being the guy who pretty much wants to tempt man into doing wrong to destroy themselves and can succeed and also the guy who pretty much wants people to separate from God so that they can burn for eternity with him in agonizing pain.
Well that will be hard to explain.. we just need 250.000 humans for the evolution.
He help who search knowledge.. he give us freedom from the false god.. he doesn't want to control nobody.. just coexist.
And he help us not helping us.. that's how it works..
Excuse my broke English is not my first language
He is pure evil. This is just my theological principle and believe. You can believe whatever you want to. But I believe Satan is evil because of that mainly. You can start going by theories that he helps punish wrong, but that would be like having me say the guy who is a double crossing undercover cop sells you drugs so that he could kill you in his police car and in fact the police disregarded him because he was a mass murderer. And is not an undercover cop, but is in fact a derranged psychopath working with gangs all around the city while trying to get as much money as possible off of drugs.
And is like Hitler and has mass armies.
You got to realize there is a difference between punishment and destruction. Anyway I'm going to fuck off this thread seeing of how heated people can be as usual towards the "AUTISTIC" Jesus Christ get a fucking grip on yourselves.
If we accept the existence (including symbolism) of Satan, then we should see him in the same, sorry state as us - willfully turning our back on God, though He beckons incessantly. Satan is the material ideal; as you said - curious, questioning, independent, prideful, reveling in the temporary sensations of the flesh rather than spiritual bliss of serving God.
In Christianity, this tendency was punished, and Satan suffers as all who choose this suffer. In Vaishnavism, this suffering would not be seen as punishment but consequence of action, of desiring to be the controller (and thus the responsible party) instead of the controlled.
In either case, if Satan is real, he should be pitied more than any other being. He fell farther than anyone else can possibly imagine.
I always thought God had a plan for Satan even after everything. If he knew EVERYTHING, and still let Satan rebel, then somewhere down the line he knows Satan will come back into the fold, or at least I hope so. I know everyone deserves a few dozen chances of redemption
>I think satan is good!
Allow me to tell you how it goes.
Satan wants to kill every human that does not worship him in hell by taking them away from faith.
Totally the nice guy there
Posessed person here that get regularly sexually abused and tortured.
Tell me how satan is the nice guy
>In b4 other sons of satan tell me it's a mental illness
You cannot counter the groping of a mental illness by moving your hand over the place (without touching it but very close) in a quick way as if you were interrupting something, maybe having your spirit interrupt his or something.
Sure is a strange mental illness that one
I'll explain the interruption thing: Suppose he is touching my ass, I move my hand towards there, pass it in front of my butt without touching it, and the moment my hand arrives, his hand moves away, I am assuming it is my spirit moving away his, but I can be wrong.
Of course, you cannot interrupt a mental illness with a physical action, not influence it in any way.
But you will deny it, because hey, you are sons of satan.
Good evidence of this is how easily you go and defend him.
And last, but not least, it certainly isn't my mind acting to my preconceived ideas, since I grew up atheist, and when shit started, it wasn't the christian religion the first thing I considered would be the truth, but rather the unknonw to me eastern religions, and since they were unknown, my mind couldn't have fabricated shit.
It sure is a strange mental illness, constantly trying to catch me in my words to put a sin in me, and constantly offering me deals for my soul.
But yeah, I expect you to be honest as much as I expect a nazi to be semite friendly.
Truly no one is higher nor have bigger nuts than God.
God condemned all humans to death.
Because two of them ate the fruit, all descendants inherited the guilt. You can of course avoid death (but only after you die), by doing His bidding, or else.
>He wo kills more is more evil
You know anon, God has killed everybody on earth, since God decides who lives and dies and when.
You can't make this shit up, the sons of satan are deciding on who's more evil by presenting the case of God, who is in charge of deciding when it is time to die.
Thats completely untrue. Lucifer created conditions where humanity would inevitably destroy itself. God is actually the very definition of a minimalist. If he says a bro needs to be whacked, it means he really, really needs to be whacked.
Besides i dont hear people bitching about all the iranians the US military killed when they invaded for no good fucking reason.
Why are you pissed off about people that died thousands of years ago while there are people dying all over the world at this very moment for the most moronic shit ever.
Its because its not that you give 2 shits about people that God killed, your just looking for an excuse to not do what God wants you to do even tho its only for your own benefit
Those 2,476,633 are:
murderers, rapist, wrongdoers, blasphemers, magicians, wicked, depraved.
Those 10 are actually nice guys.
BTW God says couple of times, that the mortal life is short and poor so it shouldn`t have significant meaning for you. Your soul is immortal tho, and that is what you should care about.
Debating the morality of God striking down people is literally, not figuratively, like debating the morality of gravity because it causes aircraft to crash sometimes
God is just the nature of the universe. Its just the way it is but its not that God is asking anything back from you except for you to trust him and stop being assholes
That's a very good question. I bring glory to God by:
being a good person
Instructing people to keep God in mind in their day to day activities
Speaking out against lies and things that are wrong
Putting the interests of other people ahead of my own
Doing specific tasks that serve a higher purpose from time to time.
I'll clue you in on this
Yes, he is. There are levels beyond the God we know by Christianity terms. God is literally everything, good and bad, but ultimately it is light and love. We all have to work toward that understanding to ascend our lifeforms, and Lucifer did the opposite by turning away from that infinite understanding and thought he was more powerful than the entirety of everything.
It's all about service to others (an extension of yourself) over self service (thinking you're better than parts of your ultimate whole).
All i have ever wanted was to have reason to feel good about myself and to be able to be honest about stuff, this is all. I never even believed in God and always thought people that did believe in God were superstitious idiots.
One day he chose to reveal himself to me. When he did he healed me in every way a person can be healed. My depression is a thing of the past, my bad knee and back are a memory, and for the first time in my life I feel alive.
He is not hateful but loving and he has been trying to make us see that his way of doing things are only there so that we may benefit.
He has many names. Jehovah, YHVH, God, Allah. Its not about a specific name but the intention attached to it.
If a young child runs to their father and shouts "dada" the childs father does not push him away and say "no! You can only come to me when you call me Father"
>He has many names
Oh, so you give glory to God by being an impostor who pretends to believe and makes people go astray?
I suppose that by twarthing your plans God gets His glory, yes
There is an old hebrew rule, that by knowing someones name you are gaining power over him (for example to curse or bless him). That is why God never revealed his REAL name to anyone (in ancient kabal tradition only Metatron knew God`s real name). JHWH is just some sort of subsitute name, it means "I am what I am" or shortly "I AM".
Allah is just one of the 99 names that muslims gave to the God, but they are still just traits or substitutes.
Without going much into mythological stuff, astrotheology and what not
At the root of the issue you'll come to understand that Lucifer literally translated from its ancient form(latin i believe) means "LIGHT BEARER"
Now, i'm going to take a shower while you guys keep on scratching your heads in ignorance
One word: research
Pro-tip: agnostic atheist who's well versed in the esoteric/occult, mysticism, metaphysics, philosophy and has done enough drugs to have a giat of wtf is going on speaking here
You are clearly retarded if you can't take the Abrahamic religions in their original context: that is of plagiarism
Long before the monotheistic shenanigans there always have been a pantheon of polytheistic gods in every other ancient civilizations
The only person who would have been considered a legitimate pioneer of the introduction of monotheistic religion was Pharaoh Akhenaten
God, you guys are long date /x/philes and can't even get this right? I deeply feel sorry for all of you
Satan is pure evil. He gets everything handed to him, gets to be God's favorite, all he has to do is accept his dad's new kid and he has to go ruin it all. He puts the plate in front of us, we eat from it, and life then becomes an exercise in free will. Accept Christ and return to a perfect standing with the God you've been offending, or follow Satan into hell. When all I want to do is go do cool next level awesome stuff with God, but now I have to stay here and try and lead a bunch of atheists kicking and screaming out of the grand deception that enslaves their mind. So yeah, he's a bad guy.
I only know what i have been shown I do not speak any deception.
One thing i do know is that humans try to over intellectualise everything and this gives them over to deception.
We were never built to know matters of the most high, only to feel as to whether something is true or not.
...no...he was pretty much spot on with everything he said. He probably should have been more respectful but...yeah everything he said was true.
People that follow satan are very, very dumb
So you are telling me that you are content of being spawned out of nothingness to live a lifetime being told how to think, how to eat, how to shit, how to behave and what to do?
You clearly haven't studied history long enough to understand what a shithole this planet is since it has always been runned by malevolent people
You speak out of deception and don't even know
It's not a matter of over intellectualise everything
One has to remain sane living in a world that thrives on negativity and has been socially brainwashed
If you would know your history, you would have an entirely different viewpoint and would instantly disdain everything you wrote
It's not a personal attack, more like a personal WAKE THE FUCK UP call
>people who follow satan are very dumb
People who cannot think for themselves and speaks by an illusory faith based on plagiarism are the really very dumb ones
How long have you been alive? Did you ever researched long enough to see that we literally live in a world of opposites?
Society is based on lies and deceptions and most people act out of "good will" or so they say
Nobody realize that the same authority figures that claims to be of god's good will are the same people that are spoken about being ultra evil and anybody enlightening himself is a threat for society
You are dumb as a fucking rock to believe in any of the Abrahamic religions without having done a bit of research
Fucking spineless pathetic attempt of life
I`m 100% sure it oritinated from hebrew tradition. Salomon gained power over demons, because God dicated him his names.
Egyptians could have something similar tho, I`m not into egyptian traditions as much.
I think God knows what he is doing (huh).
Seems like he prefers to explain his nature to humans by saying I AM, rather than giving them names.
There are 98 more names (which are more like traits to the most high) of God for muslims, Allah is one of them, most simplistic.
The snake in the garden of eden is the same entity as prometheus. They are both representations of mankind's will to ascend. They are heroes to man, sure, but I'm not sure if they're worthy of worship just because of that fact.
This is my last attempt to try to resonate you a bit of common sense
DO SOME RESEARCHES YOU DUMB FUCK RETARDED ROLEPLAYING FAGGOTS
YOU CLEARLY DON'T UNDERSTAND JACK ABOUT ANYTHING
START LIVING CONSCIOUSLY INSTEAD OF LIVING IN THE FOOTPRINTS OF A FICTIONAL CHARACTER THAT WAS USED BY MEANS OF CONTROL
WHAT IS THE ROMAN CATHOLIC EMPIRE YOU STUPID PIECES OF SHITS?
-God, or whatever the fuck you want to call me you dumbshits
P.s: actually call me Saturn, since i'm embodying the father figure and the latent controller of this dimension
In the translation of the bible i am used to the "i am who i am" is translated "i am he who causes to become"
Think of what Jesus said "you will not be able to say 'here it is' or 'its over there' for look, the kindom of God is already in your midst"
If you are from God then why do you speak with rage instead of peacfulness.
Just because someone, organization or individual, claims to be from God or represents his interests does not mean that they do.
"A good tree cannot produce bad fruit and a bad tree cannot produce fine fruit. It is by their fruits that you will recognize them."
Proof that you guys are too thick to read in between the lines
Sometimes you have to be harsh with people because that gets them out of their comfort zone out of pressure
15/16 of the times, people cannot believe having been harsh on them has actually done some good
But it does go both ways, people can be harsh with you only to control you
Or people can be harsh out of good intentions since your sorry weak ass failed to understand
There is no god being portrayed from the monotheistic fictional books you guys seem to take for granted as life's absolute grand truth
Try to think as of why i'm raging hard in this thread and the real reasons as of why
Read all of my posts again and if you cannot see that i gave you all some hints about how you should approach religion and your existential crisis, then you are truly confirming you are a waste of resources
>an hero, fgt
I'll repeat it: DO SOME GODDAMN RESEARCH
You've been lied to your entire lives
Try to think how you kill your daily life's time
Cut every bullshit that's not a necessity for self growth and is materialistic and superficial in nature
Then now you have a SHITLOAD of free time to get to know god and the gods from within
I won't mouth feed you my experiences because i've been on the path for longer than anybody from my age can claim
I'd rather drop a few subliminal hints because if they cannot see in between the lines at all time, they are letting a FUCKLOAD more pass under their noses daily and are not worthy of enlightenment
Live your experiences instead of living in somebody's shadows
I think i am beginning to see what is happening here. You have the facts, the problem is you are interpreting it incorrectly. You see the corruption in organsized religion and say that the religions based on the books are untrue.
The reality is that as it was with troy so it is with religion. What can not be taken by force is taken by subterfuge.
I'm off and never turning back
I'm on and am everywhere at the same time
This body was only a proxy for me to directly speak to you about your relationship with what's beyond
>Cut every bullshit that's not a necessity for self growth and is materialistic and superficial in nature
>Then now you have a SHITLOAD of free time to get to know god and the gods from within
This is pretty core to a lot of monastic concepts. Stop indulging in frivolous luxury, give up the constant hunt and indulgence in sex, recreational drugs and alcohol, luxury foods, entertainment for entertainment's sake, even frivolous conversation and you can focus considerably more on understanding reality and spirituality.
There are, however, those who argue, I think with some reason, that there's a limit to how much you eschew the human condition before it may muddy up your spiritual conceptions. It's an age old debate!
>Is Satan really such a bad guy?
Yeah, he is lost, even for God.
>Yeah he had pride, but he was the favorite angel of the creator of the fucking universe.
G. Amorth, main exorcist of Rome, highly respected in Europe said one thing, that made me look closer onto Satan than before.
Satan often says, that he wasn`t the best, or the faviorite. He was jelous, after knowing God`s plan to make a human the centre of his creation (God meant Jesus, not Adam).
>How dare God give the ultimate power and testament to a mere human being?
he used to said.
Then, when Jesus was born, he had shown what is to be godlike: he refused Satan couple of times, and agreed to die for his creation, he fulfilled the law that he gave to us and gave us the ultimate control over the spiritual world.
>Yeah he tried to dethrone God, but he's a sick bastard.
The main problem of Satan is that, he doesn`t want any good for human. He hates us. He knows, that humans have no match to angels, and God, but still, God loves them and orders angels to serve humans. His plan is to enslave humans, make them suffer. He will use every trick to deceive human, he will come to it as "angel of light", but his ultimate goal is to prosecute (Satan stands for Liar or Procecutor in hebrew) human and humiliate God. He want human to refuse God and his love for him, to show the weakness of the God`s plan.
Hiob tale will tell you more about it Anon.
>All he taught was to question everything and rebel.
And that is what pushes further from God: questioning. God is the centre, answer to all your question, but God is constantly questioned. Every decision that he makes is questioned by a narrow human nature.
God gave simple rules to protect human from Satan. Still, human refuses to obey commandmends. Still, there is so little faith in human.
the concept of god in the bible is wrath and jealousy . very human characteristics. falls a bit short of how modern christians think of god being
some resort to using jesus as a god template even saying he is god in the flesh but that does not make sense. Mr.Iam would sooner burn his enemies to the ground than let some one defeat him. at the very least he sure as hell would have laughed at the romans after resurrection and it would be in historical documents that a man was killed repeatedly but kept coming back and rome gave up and they gave the jews back their land ect ect ect
instead jesus looks more like a son who doesnt want to be like his father maybe out of spite since fathers and sons tend to be at odds after puberty. no wrath its turn the other cheek. no jealousy its whats mine is your
lucifer has little presence in the bible. looking at job he fills the player 2 role. he is just there to keep god from getting bored. come new testament he has even less of a presence and is just there to try to get jesus to side with him offering everything in the world
god isnt exactly good or evil in the bible and i would argue lucifer isnt either as well
I can understand your confusion. While Gods purposes never change the methods he uses to attain those purposes are constantly changing.
He was a bit of a hardass in the past because it was ultimately necessary for the greater good.
You can tell because Jesus states he was the end of the old law, ergo the old law was in place to bring Jesus in to being.
As a modern christian, this is not true at all. We are approaching a time when God will kill millions of muslims attacking Israel. Millions. We are approaching a time when God will rain fire and blood and hailstones the size of small refrigerators on the earth. We are approaching a time when two heavenly bodies, comets, meteors, or asteroids, will strike the earth, killing all in the sea, and poisoning the fount of fresh water.
We are approaching the Great Tribulation, when God will kill billions of people in rebellion against Him.
And then following that horrorshow, Jesus will rule the entire earth from Jerusalem with a rod of iron to break the nations.
People who have a hippie image of God will find out to their dismay that He is not the slain lamb, but the Lion of Judah. And in the wonderful words of C.S. Lewis, He is not a tame lion.
Oh its gonna be a fucking bloodbath alright but judgement is on a person to person basis and does not revolve around human factions.
For thousands of years Godly people have been slain by evil people. The slain will come to know justice.
Jesus is the fulfillment of humanity's self-archetype. His death tore the temple veil, symbolizing the destruction of the jewish tricks that were working to subvert the course of human progress. Unfortunately, the jews themselves were not dashed against the rocks, and so could set up fresh deception to reinforce the old ones they pulled back together.
Some people think they're not but I think those people try to over rationalize things.
Both are described as falling from heaven. Lucifer just started going by the name Satan which means adversary, because that's what he is. God's adersary
To me it's pretty clear they're the same
Good and bad are subjective, it's about who is good for you and bad for you. God is good if you want your life to be simple, to be a simple pet made to jump through hoops for the amusement of an abusive owner. You don't have to worry about anything when you have no will of your own under the thumb of god.
Lucifer is who you want if you just don't want to play the game. If you say "fuck this, I'm out, I never asked to be a part of this and don't intend to keep blindly playing" he will find you. You can tell him to fuck off too and he'll respect you for displaying a will of your own, but still offer you a chance at separation, absolute freedom outside of god to take your own path.
With lucifer you will find an equal, with god you will find a master.
Look to the dozens of mythologies, including the canaanite one corrupted by the first canaanite tribe to call themselves israelites instead. Of a dozen or more pantheons, the same archetypes manifest time and time again, both in individual gods and in their relative positions of power. The judaic faith took one such god and declared it supreme. This is a profound subversion of the archetypes that are part of humanity's collective psyche. "Jewish tricks" is a /pol/ term, implying the subversion was intentional and malicious, but the subversion is there objectively.
If you don't want to play the game, you don't want anyone/anything at all. I've had a live and let live relationship with gods and god like beings most of my life and Lucifer's never approached me about anything.
Prometheus is El is arguably Horus is Enki(I think?) These are the archetypes with several manifestations
The early israelites took El, stripped him of everything he was in his original pantheon, and was renamed YHWH. All the qualities he used to possess were then handed to Lucifer, and was made into a figure of evil. This is the subversion.
>offers humanity knowledge
>tries to liberate angels
>meanwhile god demands you follow a strict code to get into his special club, donating your body and soul to him, so you can be his little pet
>godslaves still try to accuse lucifer of slavery
What mental gymnastics do you need to perform in order to justify such slander? What did lucifer ever threaten you with? Did he try to tell you that you'd go to hell for disobeying him, create parasites that devour the brains of children, and dictate that all who stand against him are evil?
Maybe try thinking for yourself, without god, without the devil, just as yourself alone as a singular entity. Or does god forbid that in his slaves too?
The Jews are not the chosen people anymore. They rejected Christ and in doing so all the prophets that descended from Abraham. This is why they have been removed so many times from their homeland, each time for rejecting God. The new state of Israel is not God's doing, but...someone elses. The nation of Israel now describes people who accept Christ, it's a spiritual nation.
This documentary explains it all
I can distinguish from good and bad, good and evil, quality and trash, but evidence supports the idea that I'm Homo Yetinsyny, not Homo Sapiens, so maybe that's the issue.
>He threatens all humanity with extinction while claiming to be a symbol of enlightenment.
But it is g-d who dispenses plagues
>It is his end game to have us destroy ourselves
That is exactly the jewish modus operandi
>It was to give them a choice to either trust him and let him lead us or to go it alone and try to self govern.
And for making the choice that an all-knowing god would know we would make he created a place of eternal and therefore infinite damnation?
>but all the same what i say is true
Except that what I say is true, and backed by at least what little evidence I've already posted, so
Lucifer is an angel, which means he was created out of pure aether. When god asked him to bow down to Adam, who was composed of the four Earthly elements, he refused. So god banished Lucifer to the opposite end of creation - the deepest layer of Earth.
Since then, the fallen angels have been locked in Earthly bodies. Sulfur, copper, tin and arsenic - all are Earthly elements, producing the smells associated with demons, as well as the strong bronze of their bodies. Carbon is a unique element, because it's light like a Fire or Air element, but strong and conductive like an Earth element. God, Lucifer and humans all use carbon.
Various gods have been described as being in two or more worlds at once - Hekate, for example. The goal is to have your four limbs in the four elemental worlds, and your torso and head in the aetheric world.
>you don't want anyone/anything at all
Maybe I do not. I have no obligation to continue existing, I never asked for such a thing. Yet I am supposed to continue doing so, even apparently beyond death. Why? So far lucifer is the only one that has supported such absolute freedom, offering liberation, to not be and just . This isn't a threat to anyone, it's not god's place to stop us from such freedom of choice, and yet people have the fucking gall to accuse him of slavery while arguing in favor of binding all
Like repeatedly hardening the heart of a pharaoh (either subverting or completely revoking free will), forbidding the release of the israelites whose freedom he also demanded, so that he could infict suffering upon a nation?
I do not know if hell is a literal place of firey torment, a figurative state of discomfort on earth, or an outright fabrication. I haven't been shown anything that can either confirm or deny it.
Supposedly, but seeing as how those who claim that worship a blatant subversion of natural archetypes, I would argue such evidence never existed, because it's fabricated.
"the lake of fire" into which the old heaven and old earth pass seems pretty literal, but that's fair
>subvert humanities destiny
Judaism is literally that subversion
YHWH, or El, the entity that jews worship is that which hates humanity. Any christian who distrusts judaism is properly following christ, as his life was the disestablishment of the jewish lies. Any christian that loves judaism is himself taken in by those lies.
>"the lake of fire" into which the old heaven and old earth pass seems pretty literal, but that's fair
This my own interpretation of these verses so don't hold me to it, but it seems to stand to reason that the lake of fire is a symbol for complete destruction.
Additionally Jesus speaks of a parable where a rich man and a begger both die and the begger ends up in "abrahams bosom" while the rich man does end up in a firey place of torment
I believe this to be a reversal of positions of the kingdom of heaven. For a person who determines their own worth from their possessions and authority to be stripped of those possessions and authority and never to have them again would be tortuous to them
Bottom line a rightous persons heaven -is- an unrightous persons hell
That seems to me to be an oversimplification. Humans are naturally empathetic and when put in a place free from suffering, any longing for the place where one was superior to those around him would very quickly fade with time. For the concept of absolute destruction or the lake of fire to be anything but meaningless, i think there would *have* to be at least some amount of literal inflicted suffering
I agree with you about distrusting Judaism. Most Jews don't even worship the God of the old testament anymore. If they did they would have accepted his Son when he came.
I was just saying that Satan has planted the seeds for many false religions and ideologies, including Islam
Not him but this video explains the history of Jadaism and the history of Israel. The truth is pretty brutal man. That's just the way it is
This kind of hatred and bigotry is what is worst for everyone. It matters less which mythological being supposedly does or doesn't have humanity's back, people like these anons here are the most destructive force in our collective society. Or at least they represent it and foster it, obviously those two in particular aren't exactly on the forefront of destroying humanity.
>Most humans tell lies about God either thorough ignorance or malice.
Rarely has a more accurate statement been made on /x/.
If humans were naturally empathetic we would have always lived in Gods kingdom.
As it was with cain and able so it is today. There are 2 sorts of people in the world. Those that have Gods favor and those who do not.
Those who do not have Gods favor hate those that do to the point of wishing to murder them.
This is what motivates them to accumulate wealth and power so they can say "look! See how much better i am than this person?" but these ones know the truth of what they are on the inside. There is no escape from the truth. This is what fuels their insatiable lust for material things. What is worse they mislead those that do have Gods favor into believing that accumulation of material possitions is the purpose of living.
The talmud is commentary on the torah, and it's mostly jewish trickery to use the letter of the law to skirt around the spirit of the law.
>THOSE WHO SAY JEWS AREN'T NICE ARE MAKING HUMANITY WORSE!
Ok chaim i'm sorry
We do not freely make use of our capacity for empathy outside of family/friends, but the capacity is there unless it's thoroughly routed out.
There is evidence of different religions springing from the occult/demon/idol worship. If there is one true God then how did all of these other religions spring up? I'm just telling it how it is. If people were to give the video I posted >>17338265 a chance you could see for yourself.
It's not of hatred, I love all of God's children and I would love to see us all turn to Christ
Evidence for the truth has been supressed and in its place lies have been passed off as truth. This has been ongoing for millenia. Human wisdom and "facts" are completely unreliable
He hates humanity like you would hate someone who was consciously stupid, ignorant, ugly and weak, and not only did nothing to help themselves - they proclaimed themselves to be chosen.
Have you ever noticed how there are more species of beatles than apes? Earth was made for insects. Humans are gods that fell to Earth and got covered in mud. When a human brags about being a human, it's like a disposed, crippled king wallowing in mud like a retard - no one is going to respect him.
Lucifer tried to get humanity to eat of the tree of life, and become like the Elohim, who then threw Adam and Eve out of the garden so that they wouldn't become like they were. Later, Jesus spoke of how the first Adam was made of dust, and the last Adam would be a life-giving spirit.
Problems with your argument :
1. What makes you think there's one true god?
2. You don't know how it is.
3. You're trying to argue that a youtube video justifies irrational hatred and slander of your fellow man. That makes you a bad person. There's no way around that. You have chosen to be an evil human.
Speaking of slander, you know what the Talmud says about Jesus and Mary?
It says Mary was a whore who got impregnated by a Roman soldier and that Jesus got his powers from demons.
If you actually watched the video you could speak on it but you haven't.
I don't need to watch the video. I know Jewish people and I can see you. You're what's wrong.
It's not Jews, it's not Satan, it's not Yahweh, it's not Jesus, etc. etc. etc. It's just you and people like you. You're what's wrong. You represent hate and evil and lies.
How is the history of the Jewish people and the nation of Israel lies?
You're lying if that's what you're saying.
By the way you may want to stop replying because I'm the guy you got butthurt over yesterday
>By the way you may want to stop replying because I'm the guy you got butthurt over yesterday
Hey, thanks, I appreciate that. You keep that up, you might manage to qualify as a real human one day!
As for this, and also you crying about being called a liar last night, let's make something abundantly clear. You're a liar. And an evil person. Look at all the complaints about hate and lies and then look where they're coming from. You.
Your youtube video isn't the truth. You're "history of the jews" isn't the truth. You're a liar. You promote hatred. You are evil, if anything at all is.
If you say so. You're obviously the authority on the truth and morality. Anybody who blindly calls something lies without observing it seems like a rational character. Is that how you think you win an argument? Just call someone a liar and attack their character until they get tired of talking to you?
No problem. I know I seem a little harsh but I don't hate anybody. But I do hate the lies and hatred that people tell about God and his Son Jesus Christ. I don't hate the people that tell them though because I was once just like them, yet people and God still loved me
Last night I pointed out several overt lies, including lies about me. For instance, you lied and claimed that I had said Christianity was misguided, which I never did.
That was a lie. You need to grasp that. You made a claim about me that was false and that you knew was false. You lied.
You are a liar. That's proven, conclusively. You can whine about it all you want, you can dishonestly deny it all you want, it doesn't matter. What I just described above? That's all the truth. That happened. You are a liar.
It wasn't a lie. Are you a Christian? A simple yes or no would be nice but I know I won't get one because you're just trying to win an argument, and if you're not a Christian the only logical conclusion would be because you find flaws with it. Of course, it's possible that you're a Christian, I just don't know
Also I never said you said Christianity misguided. I just said that's what you think using simple deductive reasoning
You're twisting my words to try and argue your point
>Also I never said you said Christianity misguided.
Your exact words :
>As it stands I find the Catholic church to be misguided just as you find Christianity to be misguided
So again we catch you in another lie. You said exactly those words, that I find Christianity misguided. so here we see you lying, yet again.
Afterwards, you tried to claim that a person could only be a Christian or find Christianity misguided to excuse your lie, which demonstrates that you're a coward. It's also a fallacy and a lie itself.
All you do is lie.
Responding to false accusations and defending myself is bait now? Not sure how that works but okay. I'm sure making inflammatory remarks and attacks on my character would be bait, but I guess not. Whatever you say
Right I know what I said. I just explained that to you. You're lying right now and saying I said that YOU said Christianity is misguided. I didn't say that. If you don't follow Christianity the ONLY logical conclusion is that you find it miguided
Misguided: having or showing faulty judgment or reasoning.
If you didn't think that it had one single example of faulty judgement or reasoning it's safe to assume you would be a Christian
I've already explained this though. We're just going on a circle of you attacking me defending myself
You're explanation was a half assed attempt to avoid admitting you lied. It was itself a lie. It was also a fallacy. You really are just a miserable little hateful jerk.
Hmmm. Nope not really. Hurling insults at someone is pretty hateful though. You seem pretty miserable brother. I'll pray for you.
Yes I know you didn't SAY were miserable but I still believe it to be true. Call me a liar again if you must
Fallacy. There isn't a debate. He made a declaration, he was asked to prove it, he declined. So there's no debate. He refused the debate. He never won or lost, the contest simply never occurred. That's that.
The debate is about satan, bruv. He declared himself to be proof to substantiate his previous claim. I demanded proof of that, and he declined. Therefore, there was a debate and his side has no substantial proof.
So you came to the paranormal board of an ancient sumerian death cult forum to scoff at made up rules and declare yourself above them? Well congratulations, you provided nothing of value.
>Not realizing we would be living in a perfect sinless paradise if Satan had never betrayed God.
Its Satans fault we are so fucked in the first place. God would never have to punish people if Satan had not tricked man into sinning against God in the first place.
Exactly. You demanded that he participate in the debate and he declined. He is apart from the debate, above it, if you will. Therefor he cannot win or lose the debate.
Think of it like this. You're running a race. someone on the sidelines looks at all the runners and says, "I'm the fastest person here. I could beat all of you!" You reply, "so get out here and prove it," to which this person says, "no."
They haven't lost the race. They never participated. Same thing has happened here. Whether or not they are actually the fastest person there must remain an unknown and untested quality at that stage.
Except that he was already participating, and then he retroactively declined to participate. Someone running a 10k and quitting fifty meters in still took part in the race and still lost.
He made claims besides the singular one declaring him to be proof. that is taking part in debate. Refusing to substantiate a claim isn't the same as not having participated in the debate.
Based on what do you make this claim?
The examples I gave were time cube, concave earth theory, and mormonism. If all humans know what is true and what is not, then how can these example delusions persist, let alone the dense fog of others?
>embarrass yourself further
You've proven nothing and successfully declared one doubtful maybe. Perhaps you think that anything obvious to you is necessarily obvious to everyone else? That's called lacking a theory of mind. People develop theory of mind between ages 2 and 4 unless they have a profound case of autism.
If what i say was obvious to everyone we wouldn't be having this conversation.
you see the truth every day yet you refuse to awknowledge it. This is the parable of the man who built his house on the sand.
Your civilizations are built on lies and i am the storm that washes it away
You declare nonsense and accept dogma. It is through intense scrutiny that truth may hpe to be discovered, but it is in no way self-evident.
So declares any fool in the market square, insisting all but he are stupid or blind.
Talking like you're all so perfect, like the serpent isn't in you and you don't use him every day to your advantage.
>"so get out here and prove it," to which this person says, "no."
This is my life.
>You declare nonsense and accept dogma
This is untrue.
>It is through intense scrutiny that truth may hpe to be discovered
This is true, but only to the extent that the person has the openess of mind to extrapolate from given information. Often knowledge leads to arrogance. This is a hindrance to knowing real truth. Even then on an intellectual level humans are limited. This is when faith is necessary.
>So declares any fool in the market square, insisting all but he are stupid or blind
Perhaps those you declare as fools do indeed have sight beyond yours. Perhaps to those fools you seem as a blind man stumbling about. I know to me you are fools stumbling about.
I am actually working on a theory where we all subliminally want the world to end.
We welcome the apocalypse.
OH, Hitler is the Anti-Christ, oh Buenoparte is the Anti-christ...oh please Anti-Christ, end us!
It is also told no one will expect the end, so as long as we're still thinking about it, expecting it to happen, it won't happen.
When will it happen? When wills are perfectly aligned perhaps? Where there is no such thing as 'thought' THEN it just IS. No here or there, but just is.
But really we know when it will happen because we know when to expect Lord Jesus Christ, blessed be his name and future - I humbly bow to you -, and we know these things because He let us know as a warning about what is to come.
I mean, he's going to put down the peace pipe.
>You declare nonsense
"all humans know what is true and what is not"
>and accept dogma
You're doing something by declaring yourself the proof, and I was giving you the benefit of the doubt by not calling you a lunatic
>perhaps those you declare as fools have sight beyond yours
Hypothetical fools are genuine fools by default. What I meant by bringing them up is that even in their self-percieved wisdom, they have gained nothing and continue to gain nothing by declaring those around them blind.
Hey, I'm voting trump too
We know he will come back and I feel it's in the not too distant future. I think it will be at some point in my lifetime
But I try not to figure out the exact time because we'll never know until it happens. Only God knows
As the bible says in 1 Thessalonians 5:2
For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night.
This is boring to me. Bring your so called wise men before me so i can put them to shame. Holy holy holy is the name of he who causes to become.
I was a fool but he made me wise.
I was weak but he made me strong
I am his son and will reduce all his enemies to ash
His kindom will stand forever and ever and by its glory all nations of the earth will bless themselves
It's not logic, it's a mixture of emotion and self importance. These are people who's entire religion is based around themselves and how important they want themselves to be to existence. So god has to love them and their religion has to be right and everyone that disagrees with them has to go to hell and, most importantly, the really important stuff that hasn't already happened has to happen when they're alive. Because it's all about them.
'it' sounds mysterious.
Who will come back before the end times?
What is who?
What will it be like at the time before the end time?
>the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night
Do you understand this is code?
1 Corinthians 3:19-20
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, "He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS"; 20and again, "THE LORD KNOWS THE REASONINGS of the wise, THAT THEY ARE USELESS."
You think i was not one of you? That i did not pick apart things i did not understand and declare it rubbish? Your wisdom is hilarious to God. It is as tho a dog trying to explain calculus to a human.
Satan the opposer of god, atheism.
Satan is an idea a construct of human ideologies.
Theism and Atheism are both two poles on the same scale.
The Center is agnosticism.
The more you build an theistic/atheistic ideology the further from the truth you get.
Atheism and Theism are both unbalanced.
The true path lies in agnosticism and understanding both the theist and the atheist.
I think that a lot of the nonsense that we hear about the devil is likely not true such as him being the favorite of God.
The scriptures tell us that the sin of the devil was pride, as is the sin of many of us unfortunately. Obviously having said this I am not a fan of the devil anons
Maybe I should rephrase that.
Atheism and Theism are two corners on the bottom of a triangle.
You start at the top and work your way down into the ideologies.
Or you work your way up to the top.
What is "God", What is "Satan", What is the absence of "God"?
How do you divide zero?
Do you think it's sad that God will never be a human?
He created us as great, but then this angel, Lucifer, or Iblis, went to prove we were not so great by tempting us into self-awareness and insecurity. Why? Were we going to be God's sims game? Blissful but perhaps blissfully stupid?
You say 'ignorance is bliss' we say 'all sin is borne by ignorance'. But without sin there was no ignorance, and thus, there being no ignorance, there was no sin, just bliss. Then what is bliss if bliss is now still bliss but ignorance is leading to sin? Was ignorance ever truely bliss? I love Yahweh. He just wanted to see unity and not be a duality for once.
Atheism is like a square and theism is like a circle, and, my left foot is like a 3d star. What is crypto quantum jelly? What isn't crypto quantum jelly? What happens when you mix blue and blue?
>Do you think it's sad that God will never be a human?
What is Jesus?
I think I get what you're saying tho
I do kind of feel sorry for angels some times, but I'm sure they get to take a break from their Godly duties and chill in heaven from time to time. It's probably pretty sweet to be in the grace of God like that
You can't exactly fall from pride if you're sat jerking off on the street corner in a pile of your own vomit?
Can we fall from sloth? Pretty sure you don't go anywhere with sloth, let alone up or down.
Greed? a fat person requires more nutrients to get through the day, and that person might go about then lifting african kids out of wells when they're not eating carbo-fuels.
Like you can't fall out of a really awesome tree if you're just kicking dust at the bottom. What you wanna do? Climb that tree with your dusty hands.
all the influential religious, philosophical, scientific and economic literature was written by the devil
he wants the human population to keep growing in numbers and remain divided so there would always be a steady supply of souls for his feast
That knowledge cost mankind the Holy Spirit, and caused mankind to die, that day.
Have your efforts using your knowledge of good and evil made you like God yet?
Gee, what a surprise. Maybe the father of lies lied to you.
To try and stave off bad political, religious and social agendas that might make my life difficult. More or less exactly this reason!
You might call it a very proactive version of, "the best defense is a good offense."
Jesus became human; as human as though He were not God.
Jesus is God. As much God as though He were not human.
Adam and Eve had 1 Law to keep, and they broke it.
You have one way to be saved, and you have not found it. In fact, you are still trying to do what Adam and Eve tried to do; be like God through your own efforts.
It's because your God is too small that you think such a thing possible.
YHWH is not a duality. He is Good. He is a triune supernatural being, relational even within Himself, and desiring relationships with His creations. Even you.
No, that's His holiness, justice and righteousness talking.
What do most kings do to rebels who take arms against them?
No, to know that mankind is depraved, and doomed, and damned, is to search for hope.
Hope that God provided a way out of that condemnation.
Hope that God loved us enough to do something about our plight that we could not do.
Hope that there exists a means of salvation by which we may not be condemned to eternal hellfire.
So he was human in asmuch as he wasn't God and he was God insomuch as he wasn't human?
That just doesn't really say much so I wonder whether you know what it means.
You're saying when Jesus went to the toilet he was human, but when he was healing the sick he was God, perhaps?
Either way I think you've got a pretty small God too. I don't think you could pleasure any child of God with it, procreational or no (what's the pope's infallible word these days, 'do what you want'?)
Can duality be born of non duality? If putty has the capability to be two pieces when I tear it, is it one putty or two putty at any given time? If God created time-space, could God have been an ant or would he have been bigger than time-space? When did god become duality, when he created the heavens and the earth, from a material that was not from Him? Now, my good sir, that is a heresy.
Forget that religion it tells you not to trust any interaction between things on the spirit plane through any "medium" which invalidates Christ and anyone else who saw an angel by the very definition of "medium".
>The wisdom of men is foolishness to the Lord
"Oh yeah? Well I have a shield that's invincible to EVERYTHING."
The above claim is a well known and overused attempt to justify making stupid and clearly flimsy claims about one's God/religion, etc. A person should not be proud of making this appeal, because it shows both weakness of ideas and weakness of character.
I am saying that Jesus was 100% man, and 100% God, at the same time.
He is the hypostatic union between man and God; the Son of Man, and the Son of God.
He spoke this universe into being, and coded your DNA. I'd say He was pretty amazing.
Why are you saying any of this? Because you imagine it, sans evidence or reason, to be true because you want your culture's preferred belief, the one that's surrounded you your entire life, to be true, and for you to not be wrong in your conclusions.
As a result, you have completely off the top of your head made up a string of words like, "Jesus coded your DNA." That's not an honest or informed statement. That's you taking from your imagination what you hope to be true due to cultural indoctrination, self importance and fear of being mislead.
It's ain't no good! That ain't good thinking!
>It's fairly obvious that God is more intelligent than mankind.
My friend, it's not even fairly obvious that God exists outside of human imagination, and now you're trying to claim you know what its qualities are? Again, what you're doing is tantamount to lying. You can't run around declaring what a being you can't even demonstrate definitely and obviously is. That is, no offense, what stupid children do, not wise people.
Adam sinned, and the Holy Spirit left him, and he died. That day, spiritually, he died. And the children he and Eve had were not made in the image of God, but in their own fallen image. That goes for you. You were born in mankind's fallen image, spiritually dead.
Find life. Find abundant life. Find eternal life. Nothing else matters.
I thought you detested lying. But then why would you, when you are animated in the spirit of antichrist, and fathered by satan himself, the father of lies?
No, you love lies, and love those who make wonderful lies, and because of that, you are doomed.
Sometimes other peoples faith, faith in any form, will make you think. If there's one thing you can trust it's faith; there is wisdom in this for those who hear.
And so that when I read that Jesus was 100% man and 100% God, that he was a hypostatic union between man and God, I saw him then as a dirty God in every sense of the word. He was dirty by means of being born here, and that is how we are all born into this sin, and that if we say we aren't of sin then we call him a liar.
I could not see how he could have been here, but now I do. I knew when I saw the post digits lining up that there was a presence of the Holy Spirit here.
God did not give you that nature. Your parents did. Adam and Eve chose to sin and they are the original parents of all man. So, do not blame God.
>inb4 he created them and knew what they would do.
>inb4 means it's invalid
Can you counter that point? A being both omniscient and omnipotent allowing something to pass is effectively identical to such a being intentionally setting it in motion.
There is a fixed state in which free will works.
If God created Adam and Eve just a tiny bit different, maybe something else would have happened.
We can conclude from how things are now, there is no perfect beginning. But there is a perfect end. Because God knows all outcomes before they happen and this is the one we are in, where Adam and Eve sinned because of lucifer, we conclude this is the best way of making sure sin never enters into the universe again.
And what does it say in the Bible? It will never happen again after God creates the new heaven and the new earth.
Conclusion: This is the best way to do it, with man who has free will.
God cannot give you free will and then make you do something. He cannot lie.
You don't understand scripture. God didn't magically make pharaos heart hardened in the way you think.
It says in the Bible the only sin God resists is pride. So God shows pharao all these wonders and that in turn hardens pharaos heart, out of his own free will. God did not make him do it.
Secondly, God cannot lie. It is impossible. He did not lie to Adam and Eve, nowhere in scripture does it say that. You're trolling or you're really that ignorant of what it says.
No idea what you are talking about. All of this is planned, carefully.
>the only sin God resists is pride
Sauce me on that, as it's the premise of what follows
It is said that adam and eve were immortal before consuming the fruit, because there was a separate tree of life that adam and eve are implied not to have eaten from. Therefore the serpent's language was closer to the truth than god's.
But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. - James 4:6
>Therefore the serpent's language was closer to the truth than god's.
I'm not the one dismissing my opponent's arguments.
Does it not say they were removed from eden so that they would not eat of the fruit of the tree of eternal life? Would that not mean that they were mortal from the start?
They were created immortal, body and spirit. God has no affiliation with death, that is clear from scripture.
There is nothing in scripture that says God told them they had to eat the tree of life while still immortal, they had all the trees available to them.
They ate from the forbidden tree and introduced death. If now they eat from the tree of life that makes you immortal, you're forever going to be in sin and death.
>The moon represents a female womb
>They ate from the forbidden tree and introduced death.
If god has no affiliation with death, how can a tree he created full of wisdom induce it? The god of the garden of eden is affiliated with death, or the devil created all of or part of the garden.
Sauce is a year of research. I will upload all I have on my website: www.holytext.org I just made it today so will take a few days to flesh it out.
Disobeying God has consequences. God has a set of laws that never change. If you sin, you die. It's that simple. The smallest of sin will give you death.
>For the wages of sin is death. (What you earn when you sin is death.)
God cannot say you have free will and not give you a choice. Freewill automatically implies choice.
Satan can't create anything dude, he can only manipulate what has already been created. He's the dumbest thing in creation, pure retard.
>Freewill automatically implies choice.
But one of the choices is automatically eternal suffering? that's a very hard sell
>he's the dumbest thing in creation
He can apparently think circles around the common man, though
>It is a very fair trade.
You're going to call me prideful for disagreeing, but how can a benevolent god be unjust in that way?
>free will implies choice
But not automatically the choice of doing all good all the time and only doing evil. What sum of finite deeds justifies infinite punishment, unless all sums of finite deeds justify the same? likewise for infinite joy.
He knew God personally.
He was n2 in Heaven.
Pride was his sin.
He's a moron, he's delusional and he's retarded. Yeah he is smarter than man, who is of flesh and not spiritual. Your common demon can write an entire book in a day, backwards and have it as the best seller list within a week.
God is perfect and infinite.
Thus any attributes He has are, A, perfect and B, infinite.
God is just. So He is infinitely just.
God cannot lie, so He can never lie.
Now, God puts in laws that are 100% good because that is His nature.
Man breaks that law and offends an infinite God.
Man is not infinite. Thus man must pay for their sins, for infinity.
This is why Jesus (God in the flesh) had to come down and die for our sins, to appease His own righteousness and His sense of justice.
So God had to, by His own laws and nature, punish sin, and since He is infinite, He must punish you for infinity.
But, God is also love. So He is love, infinite.
So without contradicting Himself, He had to find a way to punish sin infinitely AND show love to His creation.
An infinite being dying for a finite amount of time. = Jesus dying on the cross.
Not here to entertain. You should try to learn something instead of thinking you're amusing and "cool" for being against the Christian that believes in "nonsense".
I am only here to share truth, as I am commanded to do. What you believe, don't believe, is your choice. In the end, your delusions of atheism, islam, buddhism, whatever you might have will be cleared up. For most, it will be way too late by then.
All I say is fact.
I had my 3.5 years of studying into all of this, on a daily basis. 4.5 years if you count this one year of being Christian and studying from that point of view.
But sure, you continue with your Christianity is sumerian nonsense, that took about 3 days to debunk.
You will never find truth in anything other than Jesus Christ. Mark my words.
Problem is you sound like an asshole kid, no offense i'm sure you have best intentions.
Just post your website, keep your spam images on your website, and whenever you go to post something to here put it on your website instead and then post us the link here a few times so no one misses it. Then we all shared with the truth and also efficient at work.
I sound like an asshole, because I declare what is true without any hesitation. Yet you call nobody else an asshole.
I "love" the gentle spirit of antichrist that sweeps around these threads, carefully trying to sound "nice". It's amusing.
Especially fake Christians do this. They hate people who expose truth, instead they go around telling them their way of exposing truth is wrong or just "asshole" in some way.
You all shall stand before God. Each word will be taken into account. Even on the internet.
And my job is to share the truth, I will both upload pics on here and on my website. holytext.org
You've got some strong walls up, I know this because you were softened by my soft and you instantly hardered yourself against it, which tells me you might have been bullied. You have pent up tension, possibly anger and resentment, and you channel an angry God in order to satiate that anger in a God-fearing way.
You sound like mohammed but there is ironically only one mohammed.
I think my way of writing and saying things directly is pretty frowned upon in a society where you grow up crying about how you feel when you don't get the Mcdonalds toy you so longed for.
The way a matter is said should not be considered, only the information that is being conveyed.
I don't hate you either. I want you on my side, God's side. That is the only reason I do this, out of love. Not anger, or hatred, or some pathetic view of being "better" than you.
I am convinced if I was not saved, I would burn hotter than most of you on here. But, alas, God has given me a crown, as His son.
It's frowned upon because it's generally how assholes write and say things. Now, if you're God you get to be an asshole, but we're human. Weak things.
You don't get to be an asshole. You're weak. We crush you like ant. Where is your strength? In God? Not in you? It is in your mind then. Let your wit be quicker than your tongue, and lesser sleight than a marshmallow.
Please show love and understanding to your fellow sinners, for you were once like us.
You're proving my point here dude. You make being direct about something into a negative thing. Ah well, not much I can do about it.
And I am still a sinner, I am just a forgiven one.
Christianity isn't sumerian. Christianity is a small step back towards the natural archetypes which manifested in the sumerian (amid several other) pantheon.
>3.5 years of being a christian
>no wait 4.5 if you include my time as a christian
All of this, meaning almost everything on this website. Sumerians, rituals, freemasonry, witchcraft, all of this means, all of this. I don't say "all of this" and only mean a ritual, where is your brain at?
You posted a lot about how the catholics are evil, how the garden of eden is a credible poetic creation story, and how google chrome is 666. Almost all of it was centrally related to christ and the church, with no actual reference to the sumerians.
I usually do
and my website
I don't have a specific video dealing with the sumerians, but if you know the Bible and study it, it becomes clear. Especially in the videos I post.
I'll accept the notion you've studied the Sumerians to some degree. tripfags are typically as good as their word. I do not accept the notion that you've studied them with any depth, because the archetypes are basically self-evident when you even begin to look into societies that worship pantheons.
I never stopped looking for truth, I was never satisfied with anything. Until a bunch of demons tried to abduct me (alien deception) and calling out to Jesus in my mind made it stop.
Jesus is real. You are wrong, that is the truth.
I'm still searching myself, but you have consistently dismissed my findings without any real analysis in favor of your own, even as I endeavored to show you the flaws that I'd found
A little advice, start praying to God. You don't have to say Jesus etc. Just say God, true God, most High, creator of all etc. You'll see who answers, that's what I did.
I will tell you in short, I wont refute all points because I'm lazy and it's 6:14 here in sweden.
Noah, his sons and their wives all survived the flood.
God drowned the entire planet because the angels came down and mated with women, when women produce hybrids they become giants. When giants (nephilim) die, they become demons, since they are neither angel nor human, but a mix.
God said all flesh was corrupted, except Noah, Noahs wife and his sons. Noah's sons, wives did have the nephilim gene. This is why there are nephilim after the flood too and why God commands to kill a bunch of tribes, men women and children alike.
Now, let's say one of the sons of Noah has a couple of kids, one of these children have the nephilim DNA, nephilim DNA makes you evil and that child writes oh I don't know, the epic of Gilgamesh, explaining the flood, etc from their point of view, with their idols etc.
Then the true Living God who drowned the entire earth writes the Bible and explains exactly what happened.
Which account of the story would be correct? The one God who knows everything for infinity or a nephilim who worshiped idols?
I think you understand what I'm trying to tell you.
Nimrod was the first world ruler.
He built the tower of babel.
God came down and confused all their languages, it even says in the Bible God made some to look like apes and other elephants etc as punishment. (Indian gods)
Names for nimrod:
and just scores and scores of names for the same guy.
Check out Rob Skiba for more info.
Check out Jonathan kleck for pure proof of this.
Heavily implied. You're not a christian you're a new ager clinging on to Jesus.
>Aliens tried to abduct me (alien abduction)
The fact that shit just rolls off your tongue and you expect others to take you seriously. Why should anyone believe you're a christian, mohammed?
I thought they were aliens, kiddo. They are demons, have you never heard of the alien deception? What in the world do you think the strong delusion is? Use your brain and read the Bible.
One of the most horrific things on X is an uneducated Christian, trying to inform me on matters he knows nothing about. New ager, lol. I expose that on my youtube, kid.
Do you believe in aliens or do you believe aliens are a concept to trick people, that aliens wrote the bible etc?
Because you dance the line somewhere so I think we should make you clear now.
Learn to read... what I believe and talk about is obvious, I have been more than clear.
There is no such thing as "aliens".
Demons pretend to be "aliens" from other planets to deceive the masses.
That is the strong delusion in revelation.
I experienced a demonic attack, which I thought was an alien abduction and I cried out to Jesus to help me, thinking they were aliens and they stopped.
I don't get people like you, read instead of skimming through what I am writing.
I don't care what you've met or haven't. Next time read carefully instead of throwing a bunch of nonsense accusations. It's always the fake Christians who don't know anything about the Bible that go around spitting out nonsense because their pastor taught them to do it.
Haha. Okay man.
Teach yourself to read correctly, read the KJV only. Salvation is by faith alone, not of works. We do not need to repent of our sins. Etc etc.
If you are a christian then why do you only speak out in threads where God is being praised and not in threads where people praise the devil? Its because your a satanic shill.
>Is Satan really such a bad guy?
>Btw, I'm an atheist that just likes to talk about things.
You: If you are a christian then why do you only speak out in threads where God is being praised and not in threads where people praise the devil? Its because your a satanic shill.
You know all the threads I am on? :^)
I already know Him. More importantly, He knows me.
But you, accuser of the brethren, stumbling blocks, you will have your share.
Do you agree with this:
How to get saved
Man is a sinner in the eyes of a Holy God.
Romans 3:23 – For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
There is a price for our sin, the wage (what we earn) is death when we sin.
Romans 6:23 – For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Jesus Christ paid for all our sins, by dying on the cross, shedding His blood; Christ was buried and bodily rose again 3 days later.
Romans 5:8 – But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
By faith in Jesus Christ alone are we saved forever.
Ephesians 2:8 – For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Faith alone in Christ alone. That is the gospel, it is simple, pure and it saves you eternally. You cannot lose salvation.
Thank you for confirming you are a false convert and one of many that will be saying Lord Lord.
>Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
And thanks for the rewards.
Faith in Jesus means having faith in his works and ways, faith in Jesus does not mean saying 'Lord is Christ Lord is Christ, I believe it I believe it'. Because you can teach a person who has not learned a language to say these things. You must understand what it is you say when you say 'Lord is Jesus Christ, Lord is Jesus Christ'. You must try to understand every act and word of Christ in order to understand where he was coming from, from that you can understand his logic and his ways. Then you begin to walk in his ways. This is a purification of the spirit, a journey, do you understand, a baptism of the spirit?
1 John 2:6
- but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.
Who in the world do you think you are kid? You think I fear angels, demons? You?
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Much woe unto you both.
I pray sincerely Christ remove your demons, and as your responses are only becoming more saddening to me, for I can guess how you will respond before you respond, I will be checking out of this thread now.
I will pray Lord send you good company. That is what I will do.
I expose evil.
I show all the subliminal stuff of satan and his minions.
I preach the gospel on here for a while now.
You join in with a guy saying he is Jesus Christ.
You're a fucking idiot and no child of God.
You do not expose evil, you propagate it. The words of my father is meant to be a source of light, yet you turn it into a source of darkness. There is no forgiveness for such ones. Go and enjoy what few years you have left
No, he's a fucking legend and I love the crazy bastard.