>>17328440 The illumanti (not bavarian) originally started as a novel. Now people have twisted and turnt it into a curious retard's dream.
What really exists is world global bankers, global politcans, secret military technology, forbidden archaeology under museums, and etc. Read and research more you retards.
I think the internet has made people more stupid. There are so many books out there that are great knowledge bases for information from real experts that are not even on the Internet. Now we call an expert if they only have internet recognition for absolutely stupid shit. Like blogging.
the Illuminati seem to be a talking point more than anything tangible.
They seem to be an avatar of what modern day conspiracy theories are. If you read enough you will find all kinds of things about what the Illuminati are and what they can do. Unfortunately most of these sources are all equally vague, contradictory or rely on other evidence that doesn't exist.
I find people pick and choose to form their own "head cannon" of the Illuminati from the vast sea of rumors, books, stories and historical facts.
This puts me personally in a position where I would have to assume that they don't exist or if they do it's possibly in a wildly different form from how most people claim them to exist.
>>17328517 No if you read enough you would understand that the modern day illuminati is all based on the novel and that message in the book has been diluted by the public that it was based in fact. Fucking ridiculous I swear.
>>17328557 Because I use to be obsessed with illuminati. I was a illumanti tard. But I started to read books that weren't published on the Internet and listening to informative podcasts.
After working with some celebrities in temporary jobs I came to realize that there is no illumanti but there are elite groups worldwide with strong power. The illumanti is only a distraction. Jews own most of America!!! You can choose to believe me or not but what I say is actually true and verifiable. Put in the research.
>>17328587 I understand what you're trying to say and I think there's a lot we as citizens don't know about who controls what aspects of the world.
However a problem I have with this kind of argument is that if the concept of the Illuminati is fabricated to conceal the truth, how can you tell that any other evidence is fabricated or not.
The argument seems to rely upon the assumption that people in control of the world behind the scenes have the power to produce believable misinformation. If this is true then how is any information that is not observed directly true confirmed to be true?
I don't think it's a good idea to take everything you hear from outside sources as fact, nor to take everything as false. Picking and choosing what's correct and what isn't to form an opinion is very difficult and experiences vary wildly from person to person.
With the vast amount of information out there is nigh impossible to form a conclusion that is agreeable by all.
>>17328629 In the 1960s there was no mention of the illumanti. In the 1970s when there was reckless anarchists open to try anything including drugs (the hippie age), that's when this illumanti cancer began to grow. It was written in the 1970s, and was the perfect time and place for its concept to become diluted and spread over the course of time as that generation passed it down whenver any major event happened: however miniscule the mention it was.
What I believe is happening now about the illumanti novel concept is that it's original message has been taken too seriously overtime along with selective cloud shaping. (When you look at a cloud, you can interpret it as whatever you like best.)
>>17328384 Why do we have always to read your hypnotic magic book? Because you are not able to spread the word! Because the book of book hinders you to become enlightened, because if you could, your believe would gone and that's all it's about, to believe and be a blindly following sheep! You will all be eaten by the Islamics, they all like lamb! You all have to lay down your illusions and we will build up a new world which last forever! Christianity can survive, but you have to change your paradigm to a higher level!
>>17328361 A group of incompetent cucks, if they knew what the fuck they were doing we wouldn't be doing this a second time, or there'd be no contest this time around. But the fact that I'm still typing means they don't know how to kill people like me.
>>17329680 >>17329686 Fuck it, I'm probably a crazy person. Truthfully I've got nothing to lose, but I'm still not gonna tell ya. I was threatened and by rights I shouldn't give a fuck about said threats, but the fact this is the second time this has all gone down (AFAIK) is enough to make me a little cautious. Flat-out telling you all would lead to my demise in your timelines and then you'd be lost unless you could figure it all out.
How about some hints though! Stargate the in-universe video game, thoth, mjolnir, norse paganism, samsara, and parasites that do not give a fuck about your local causality.
Have fun! See you in the next universe if we're all lucky! We've got a long war ahead of us.
>>17329755 I was warned months ago about a bunch of shit that just happened though. So I know they're from the future or have a form of highly advanced predictive analysis.
Add in the fact that the full theory laid bare will mark me as an autistic person of CWC levels forever. Like it sounds stupid, but like Sherlock Holmes and Spock both say, "that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"
I'm still gonna make you figure it out yourself, it's against the rules to tell you directly and the last year has not been fun, I don't want to do it again.
One more hint! It's a company that doesn't JUST do what they're adored for, and it's a really fun word. They're sisters with a less fun sounding company that produces agriproducts and uses the same font.
You are all stupid morons! Don't care what is, what was, might be and the truth! The truth is worth shit! Only if you sell the shit, you might get famous and rich. If you want to sell shit, I'm fine with it, but if you get crazy about it, shut the fuck up! Conspiracy happened, happens and will happen, that how we are! Stop be an ant! Start thinking about how YOU want that the world should be, that's how it works and this is the secret knowledge those secret organizations have! 'They' know that YOU matters and YOU and only YOU can slave yourself. Start govern your own mind and stop fulfilling the expectations of others! They want YOU! Stop giving them YOU! Stop being an ANT, start being an GOD! Stupid morons!
>>17330019 You are illuminati, the church! You and your brotherhood invented all the shit to spread fear among the sheep's! You are the master of the words. Long history dude, but I will end your Tyranny of the trinity once and for all!
>>17330361 Why should I? Since when have I to do the bidding for an ant? Are you not able to feel my presence? Intuitively you know who I am, do you feel the sensation in your solar plexus? That's me, I am touching you, right now!
>>17328361 my idea of the illuminati . is the eye on top of the pyramid . means the universal power we can all have. they have just hidden it from us brainwashed us and reversed engineered things all so they can have the power and control us.
>Believing the obscenely influential in this world consciously maintain a nefarious group in order to carry out their evil doing
The closest you're going to get to the 'illuminati' is an old boys club keen to cultivate and maintain professional interests for the purpose of massive financial gain. Sure, they'll all be psychopaths obsessed with status, but there's nothing sinister about that which isn't already reflected in every single person on the planet.
Put away your childish toys, /x/ and join reality.
>>17328361 Illuminati to Aluminados to Alumbrados to Illuminati(1776). 1776 Illuminati was Weishaupt's sect, not the whole Illuminati.
Illuminati is something you should be rooting for if you're worried about current social climate for example. People push extreme social liberalism failing to realise they will receive economic liberalism as well. Economic liberalism is an anarcho-corporatistic and meritocratic death sentence to extreme social liberalists who through self-victimisation are able to "thrive". The point is, you should support people who can see through structures, layers and fabrics and who try to mold them with zealotry and mathematics instead of financial benefit and subjective morals. Don't be a parasite who thinks it can supersede the host and maintain it's own parasitic essence.
>The end justifies the means has turned into: >Means are the end and the justification(tolerance, solidarity). This is quite antithetic to often claimed progressiveness of these simplistic morals since there is no progression.
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