>>17324704 dont tell me you havent noticed there are a lot of fucked up things that happen in any 1 year. its almost like there is a competition to see who can either get the high score for the year in a category or do the most fucked up thing like a oscars for criminals .he answered the call.
to his credit he did get a higher score than most rampage killers do and he worked alone so the points arent divided like the collaborative effort category
1. a person who opposes or rejects popular opinion, especially in stock exchange dealing.
so basically, what i said is the opposite of contrarian because the view i take is the view accepted by the majority. you are the contrarian fuck in this conversation.
if you're gonna use attacks on my character and weak insults to deflect from your lack of an argument, then at least do it right. you could've called me a "sheeple" and that may have been trite, but at least it would have made sense.
>>17326526 Are you retarded? There's at least twice as many pics of him in a basic google search, and not everyone enjoys uploading 10,000 selfies of themselves to the internet. And that's just some normal people, this guy had Asperger's so he was probably even *less* likely to upload pictures of himself. Doesn't mean he doesn't exist.
>>17328698 You use a mindless government drone's typo as irrefutable proof of a conspiracy that an entire person doesn't exist? His mom's (or aunt's, I fotget which he was living with at the time) death certificate cleary states that she died of multiple gunshot wounds on the 14th, the same day of the shooting.
>>17328977 >a conspiracy that an entire person doesn't exist? Him dying prior to his supposed massacre doesn't mean he doesn't exist, it means he was the ultimate patsy - the kind that is dead before their name is blemished.
>>17329140 I just googled my own name (along with where I currently live, which is also my hometown) and got exactly one pic of me and it was my yearbook photo. This kid was as much of a nobody as you or me before the shooting, I don't see why you find it weird that there aren't a lot of pictures of him online. Speaking of which, there probably are a lot more pictures of him as a young kid, but they exist on actual film and were never uploaded to the internet.
>>17329222 You're right they wouldn't last long. Society rejects those that understand how it works. Understanding how it works makes one a little crazy due to the dissonance. That's why you'll never find a sane person that's interested in conspiracy theories.
>>17329213 Yeah, AFTER he died, meaning no more pictures could be taken of him as soon as he became infamous. And you're right, they do have more resources than google; that's why they have as many as they do. Don't forget in his younger years the internet was in its infancy and myspace hadn't even been invented yet, and many pictures were still taken on film. There's probably dozens of pictures of him throughout the years, but nobody bothered to upload them to the internet since he had few friends or family members. This kid badically didn't exist before this whole thing.
>>17329161 Um, I do, actually. call me sick, but if I saw it and it was pretty clear it wasn't faked, I'd accept the situation more. People always tend to believe things that can be seen more than that which is just "heard" and described.
>>17329211 I responded before I read your second post, but I figured no point in deleting it.
Your point is a semi-legmtate one, only in the sense that it provides plausible deniability. To that I would only ask - where is the proof that someone admits they "made a typo"? We've got proof of the certificate stating he was dead prior to Sandy Hoax, but we've got nothing to say someone admitted they're at fault for a typing error.
Conspiracy theories always comes down to raw faith in the end, if you simply want to believe the official narrative than that is fine by me, but for many people there is simply too many inconsistencies to do so.
>>17329260 >Um, I do, actually. call me sick, but if I saw it and it was pretty clear it wasn't faked
Why in the world would you think it was "faked"? I don't get this paranoid mind-set. Seriously, do you ever read what you type, or sit back and objectively analyse what the fuck it is that you're watching/reading?
Do you really believe that the events at Sandy Hook were a fake Government false-flag operation designed to allow stricter gun-control?
Btw, go ask one of the parents if you can watch the video of their 5 year old daughter being shot in the face because you don't believe it really happened.
all of the obvious "you'e paranoid" and "you're stupid if you believe this shit" is nothing but ignorant shitposting from morons who refuse to utilize critical thinking and greedily suck down whatever bullshit they are fed. be a sheeple all you want, but don't take an affront with us because we choose not to be herded into the pasture with the rest of you...
>>17329521 no, i think the parents don't give a fuck about people like you because they know their child is dead. and the last thing they'd want is pictures of the mangled body of their murdered child being posted on 4chan and tumblr faggot sites and all over the internet in general.
>/x/ becomes a ridiculously slow moving board >Make a Sandy Hook thread and government shills come out of the woodworks to argue that it was a legit massacre lol, it's so obviously fake, and the shilling only makes it more obvious
>>17329963 Really, so why is so much effort wasted on trying to prove conspiracy theorists wrong if it could be done very easily? The parents also have given interviews that were about the stupidity of conspiracy theorists.
The only thing that has come from the discussion of SH is 1) taking away guns and 2) taking away people's rights to speak.
>>17329963 What about the helmet cam footage of Lanza being shot? He didn't commit suicide, cause he was shot in the back of the head. I personally don't give a fuck if he was executed (same as Eliott Radja) but that would be enough proof for me and wouldn't involve having to show any kids being shot.
>>17330005 >Really, so why is so much effort wasted on trying to prove conspiracy theorists wrong if it could be done very easily? The parents also have given interviews that were about the stupidity of conspiracy theorists. yeah, because that doesn't cheapen the memory of their child and normal people sympathize with and get angry at the news story "families who lost children at sandy hook are being called liars by conspiracy theorists."
no one took away guns. no one took away anyone's right to speak so you're full of shit.
>>17330024 show me where it says he was shot in a way that ruled out suicide. you can't be surprised that they didn't release footage that they never claimed existed and goes totally against what actually happened.
>>17330067 this was his hat and if you look at it, you can see where the bullet came up through it, which would make sense to me as having the shot go up through his brain starting from the lower rear portion of his head. nothing makes it look like it couldn't be self inflicted to me.
Motive: He felt rejected by society so he punished society by doing the most evil violent thing he could think of.
How isn't that completely obvious?
Look, here's the sequential logic: 1.) Society is bad 2.) There: punish society 3.) But society never learns 4.) There: Extreme punishment 5.) But what is the most extreme? 6.) Punish their children; destroy their future; force them to question "why?"
This is the reason the majority, not all, mass killers kill.
a quote i find interesting >this was a crime in search of a motive, rather than vice-versa. He wanted to do it and was going to find a justification one way or another, like I believe many of these shooters do. That isn’t to say they do it for *no reason*, just that human beings often aren’t aware of where their thought process started by the time it ends, and the more heinous the crime, the more twists and turns would be necessary for it to be seen as rational (unless you’re dealing with a completely irrational mind, but I don’t think Adam was quite that, as sick as he was.)
>>17330204 I actually disagree with that concept. The post-modern marxist frankfurt psychology crap is just crap. People know exactly what they're going and why, from start to finish. The problem with post-modern psychology is that it's inherently narcissistic and condescending; such as "it's all chemical imbalances and they don't know why they do it" = crap.
The Columbine kids not only had diaries that explained what they did in detail [although the police lie and state otherwise]; but they also made a video for school that was exceptionally clear: "Don't you ever hit him again!" "This whole society is bullshit!" "Reciprocation is a motherfucker!"
Adam being unaware and primal is based on his phone call to a radio station about primates going apeshit for no reason. The problem with that is that there is no such phenomena as wild primates going apeshit for no reason. There was plenty of reason to do what he did though, at least in his own naive and ignorant mind. His computer had a file called "women are selfish", and he tried to block his mom, a gun toting paranoid, out of his life. He even plastered his windows with trash bags leaving me to make the logical conclusion he thought his mother was trying to spy on him. Which she probably was. According to friends and neighbors his mother was a psychotic and he was autistic. She believed the end of says was coming and stressing him out for no reason. He pleaded with people to help him, but as always they just ignored him due to his illness. He got sick of being ignored, being left to die with a nutjob. She he killed her and then punish society for it. For their intentional negligence (at least in his mind). The apeshit nonsense was an excuse he made up in order to get people concerned. It was a cry for help; to grab people's attention, to look into his home life. I mean he called a public radio show for fucks sake and said the most attention grabbing thing he could thing of (in his autistic mind).
>>17330264 i don't think you read the actual site and i don't think you've read up on lanza as much as you think you have.
first, the guy didn't say he did it because of a chemical imbalance. he said that adam's thinking was so twisted by the tie of the shooting that it's never going to make much sense to the average person and may not have been 100% clear to himself.
>Adam being unaware and primal is based on his phone call to a radio station about primates going apeshit for no reason. >The problem with that is that there is no such phenomena as wild primates going apeshit for no reason. >There was plenty of reason to do what he did though, at least in his own naive and ignorant mind. adam thought it was perfectly reasonable for travis the chimp to go crazy based on the life he was pushed into. i don't think he thought the chimp freaked for "no reason" anymore then he thought that his own unhappiness and loneliness was for "no reason"
>He even plastered his windows with trash bags leaving me to make the logical conclusion he thought his mother was trying to spy on him. bullshit. he said himself online that he hated the sun. go with the simplest answer.
>His computer had a file called "women are selfish", and he tried to block his mom, a gun toting paranoid, out of his life.
he didn't get along with her very well but there was a ton of stress on both of them because he had a lot of problems that he refused to get help for. i never heard anyone call nancy psychotic or a doomsdayer so i'd need a source to address that. still, nancy made mistake after mistake because she was coddling him rather than making him face his fears. i believe that on some level he knew his mom was not good for him because she overprotected him and that's why he lashed out at her. aside from that, they were both doing their best but he was very socially impaired. the attached pic gives some insight into that and i personally find it very sad.
>>17330334 >He pleaded with people to help him, but as always they just ignored him due to his illness. total bullshit. he saw multiple doctors for evaluation and did not like seeing them AT ALL. he refused to go back them for treatment and refused any medicaton.
>He got sick of being ignored, being left to die with a nutjob. >She he killed her and then punish society for it. he wasn't ignored. i do think some of what pushed him over the edge might have been his brother moving on to college and leaving him alone with his mother. but not because she was crazy, because she was a normal, emotional human being and he couldn't deal with her. she represented everyone in the outside world who he could barely interact with because the way they thought was so divergent. he hated normal human interactions and didn't have a solid grasp on any of it.
>The apeshit nonsense was an excuse he made up in order to get people concerned. >It was a cry for help; to grab people's attention, to look into his home life. >I mean he called a public radio show for fucks sake and said the most attention grabbing thing he could thing of (in his autistic mind). no, he called the station and talked about a topic that he had been trying to talk about online for a while. travis the chimp was something that mattered to him and he thought he was sharing real insights, not trying to get attention or reach our for help.
i have to go for now, but i think you should look more into this, especially reading things he wrote himself and what doctors wrote about him before making such declarations about why he did what he did.
>>17330497 >To date gun rights beliefs have increased >To date gun purchases have been rising steadily, breaking records in the most recent quarter >To date gun laws at state level have been loosened more than tightened despite media cries for full on bans >To date these 'fake shootings to push gun control' theories have been completely wrong
When will the 'hurr false flag for gun control' fags give it up already? None of the recent 'false flags' have resulted in anything more than the usual talking points outrage that disappears after 2 weeks.
>>17330991 so if he was abused in that particular school by either teachers and or other students, he decides to go to the school and exact his "revenge" on very small very frightened very young children who had not a damn thing to do with any of his retardation? i hope he's burning for all eternity fuk him
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