can we talk about angels please?
... more specifically, about their relationships with humans? do they live on earth, can they fall in love, how do you detect an angel?
when i shared my suspicion that my boyfriend was an exiled guardian angel with erased memory all hell broke lose in that thread, it completely exploded. but what i would like to know as well are there people here who think they ever came in contact with a real angel in our reality? .. so not astral or anything, i mean in flesh and blood..
thanks in advance and please STAY ON TOPIC, if you dont believe in angels and think its bullshit i respect that but just move on please this is a paranormal board, not an science/atheism only board
its over 300 replies its auto saging and got completely destroyed by trolls and atheists within a few hours of posting it, id like to have a serious informative angel thread now, thanks
I asked an entity if it felt love once. Instantly my body filled with a sensation I'd never felt and probably never will again. It was love but the response to the question was callous. Something like, "you mean this combination of bio-electrical signals and neural chemicals? No."
However, given a human body and their knowledge of the concrete love I experienced, I'd say yes it's possible for them to fall in love.
In my opinion angels can't be flesh and blood, but people can be strongly influenced by angels.
But the bible does say in Hebrews 13:1-2
Let brotherly love continue. Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
I guess that could possibly be interpreted to mean that some people are "undercover" angels, but I think it just means that angels are witnesses to what we do and take joy from the kindness we show others
First off they're not just angels. Entities can be what we consider angelic without actually being what we call angels.
Relationships? All of the above
live on earth? Yes
fall in love? Many, not all
detection? They're always around
An exiled guardian is unlikely. If he is a guardian it's more likely "R&R" but that's politics and personal history. Erased memory is just how incarnation is done. If they were to regain even partial memory, they'd just be considered a mentally ill person.
i don think ive ever came across anything pertaining to angles in my years other then they once knew how to love and bread with people and that the result of those relationships led to there children and the angle s that fathered/mothered(?) where all cast down by god and everyone was forbade from such relationships hence forth. Like for real i know more about demons ghosts and magic then about angels.
Thanks op you've made a gap in my knowledge apparent looks like its time to study something new again.
An awakening. Not recommended. Most humans with an angelic soul also have a demonic one. It's how some semblance of balance is maintained. If you awaken the angel then you get the demon as well. Also the angel will not be your boyfriend. His psyche will split in three. The angel, the demon and the human mind that resulted from their union.
Angels are enemy ilk to humanity. For thousands of years they have done nothing but spiritually suppress us. Christianity being the enemy program that it is is backed by nefarious beings. Angels being one of them. They look down upon us and wish nothing but the worst for us. What we have been indoctrinated to believe are all lies.
Angels will latch themselves onto us and drain us, make us spiritually weak and enslaved. They will portray themselves to be some loving entity to let our guard down and just when they have us, they will do everything in their power to make sure all negative things happen to us.
Angelic magic is completely disastrous and will fuck someone's life over.
Angels are of the Nordic extra-terrestrial race, they are enemy Nordics also known as Pleiadians.
Sounds like edgy teen delusions. Human souls don't mingle with other souls. Nor can you have an angelic soul and a demonic soul in the same body the yin yang doesn't work that way.
Now then there are a few family bloodlines that have angelic touches or demonic touches to their lineages. That doesn't mean they have an angelic or demonic ancestor somewhere in their family tree. Stop taking the bible literally and out of context. Also Christianity dismay have a monopoly on Angels. Angela have a mind bogglingly complicated structure, but they do have a tie to the Christian God.
I'm sure someone with more knowledge than me could rush one but it's mostly up to the entities not inhabiting human bodies. Like I said it's probably more akin to R&R than exile which means he still has allegiances. When his downtime is up he will either awaken to complete an assignment on earth or die and return to his otherworldly duties.
angels are a great source of inspiration and progress. you need to devote a lot of time and concentration to understand these mysterious beings. im sure once you get to know them, they're mystery will naturally unravel. they serve a purpose. i personally suggest you do not waste their time with mundane things. not that they are not friendly. the upper worlds has many ways and values. why one could say it would come down to manners and sincerity. love and truth if you will. happiness and honesty for us child folk. yes that sounds appropriate. it is important to be sensitive. angels want to help. they want to show you what you are. how you work. angels are different perspectives, different angles if you will. but the more i write the more it is certian to me how little i know about angels and how unlikely it must all seem to some.
>how do you detect an angel?
This might help.
angels-chapter.zip (813 KB)
Yes, their aura and general apparence usually has a few tells. Aura wise they'll have stronger core that feels or looks like a moving liquid. Appearance wise they'll have a certain aetheric quality to them. A feeling of displacement like they're not being completely touched by the reality you know. Along with the usual aura of peace and so forth.
Also angels don't look like dudes in long robes with fluffy wings and long hair. That's an appearance for the humans safety. I mean if you do an angelic calling without asking for a human and comely appearance you'll blink and have what looks like a ball of fire filled with eyes. There's a reason Angels always yelled BE NOT AFRAID. Remember Angels are beings of pure light and energy. It's like standing two feet from a mini-sun.
The human soul does mingle with other souls, literally all the time. Angelic and demonic forces also mix. The human mind, body, and soul acts like a sort of spiritual emulsifier. I don't use the bible for information.
I get so much Diablo feeling from this, have you read the Diablo books, there the demons and angels are basically different side of the same coin. Where humans are in the middle of it and both sides look down on us.
As plausible for anyone else to look like that. This isn't something that gives cookie cutter looks. Furthermore, unless you have said person with you and do psychic readings and possibly an angelic calling for an oracle audience (i.e. ask the angel some questions) it's nearly impossible to get a 100% confirmation.
In a sense of influencing each othe yes they mingle. I mean literally.
He's a pretty solid investigator.
Ok, I answered in the previous topic, but I will tell you what I know in all seriousness:
Angels are beings without form.
If angels came to this world, they had to die in the upper worlds to descend (as we have to die to ascend).
Their world, as their plane is higher, consists of emotions, not matter. We could consider angels, therefore, as manifestations of certain impulses.
Unlike humans, who have complex souls, angels are simple beings. They don't distinguish between good ane evil, they don't have free will. They're cosmic machines, in a word. They're extensions of the Creator, messengers programmed to perform certain tasks. Since they are simple, they're eternally the same. Why the Creator would create Raphael to heal if he, Raphael, decide to change his mind because he wanted to?
If they were able to travel between the different planes, why don't they reach for the Creator, since we all yearn to unite with the Source (conciously or unconsciously)?
There's no such thing as fallen angels, as their task is already defined from the above. But in the end, we all will be returnign to the Nothingness.
Don't fall for the Hollywood's romantic angel paradigm.
You've seen it. They appear completely human unless their "memory block" weakens or they full on awaken. Even still these aren't the vermin associated with conventional possession. They're intelligent and calculating and have a high level of self control based on their level of cohesion.
thanks for the replies, im going to sleep now and will check the thread tomorrow if theres more information, have a nice day or night
>Angels are beings without form.
>If angels came to this world, they had to die in the upper worlds to descend
Never heard that before
>(as we have to die to ascend).
What do you mean? I've traveled far and wide astrally.
>Their world, as their plane is higher, consists of emotions, not matter.
>We could consider angels, therefore, as manifestations of certain impulses.
In a way yeah, but they're not automatons.
>Angels are simple beings
Not from what I've seen.
>Angels have no free will
More or less.
>extensions of the creator
Not sure about that one.
>angels, as their task is already defined from the above. But in the end, we all will be returnign to the Nothingness.
No and no.
Sounds like a plot line from the Dresden Files about the Denarians. Go on I might understand it if i have more information.
Back in a bit. Keep going.
>Never heard that before.
That's a way of saying. To descend from higher planes, beings become more dense. Death as not in a physical death, but a transition between worlds.
>What do you mean? I've traveled far and wide astrally.
And that make you a witness. Not a being of those planes.
>No and no.
Share your knowledge, what's your perspective on this? Genuinely interested.
Should it be asked, ‘How can a man love Him with the evil inclination? Is not the evil inclination the seducer, preventing man from approaching the Blessed Holy One to serve him? How, then, can man use the evil inclination as an instrument of love for God?’ The answer lies in this, that there can be no greater service done to the Holy One than to bring into subjection the “evil inclination” by the power of love to the Holy One, blessed be He. For, when it is subdued and its power broken by man in this way, then he becomes a true lover of the Holy One, since he has learnt how to make the “evil inclination” itself serve the Holy One. Here is a mystery entrusted to the masters of esoteric lore. All that the Holy One has made, both above and below, is for the purpose of manifesting His Glory and to make all things serve Him. Now, would a master permit his servant to work against him, and to continually lay plans to counteract his will? It is the will of the Holy One that men should worship Him and walk in the way of truth that they may be rewarded with many benefits. How, then, can an evil servant come and counteract the will of his Master by tempting man to walk in an evil way, seducing him from the good way and causing him to disobey the will of his Lord? But, indeed, the “evil inclination” also does through this the will of its Lord. Zohar (II. 163a)
More like robotic.
I'd take that "no" as the truth. It knows the programming snippet on an intellectual level and was able to produce the effect in you. That's nothing like feeling it in its own self.
It also means that you can't go by your feelings when it comes to whatever entity it is, since the entity can make you feel any way it wants you to.
Incarnation is an interesting subject.
From what I understand for an entity to incarnate as a human they'll need a human soul to do so. But, unlike how most works may portray a relationship like this these two souls are not separate but are one in the same.
For instance, lets say a demon is incarnated with a human soul. That human soul will develop a personality over time that will mingle ad influence the demons. In the end there will be not two souls with separate personalities, but one soul who has a mix of two consciences.
The pure demon conscience and the pure human conscience would no longer exist. Instead, if one side of this soul were to gain control, it would still exhibit the signs of the other side.
If your boyfriend is truly incarnate he would seemingly have two (or more) personalities that he exhibits.You would still be able to define several constant traits though.
Does that apply to him? If so, I'd recommend you talk to a higher entity or a powerful psychic, they'd be able to teach him to master these sides of him.
>Death as not in a physical death, but a transition between worlds.
Then it's not death. It's a transition. A metamorphosis. There's no bans on such things between realms and worlds.
>a witness not a being from those planes
I'll address your claim about "No such thing as fallen angels". There's two major groups that work from what some would call hell. First there's what we call demons those are made of the stuff of negative concepts. Second there's the Fallen. They are exactly what they sound like, but aren't obsessed with destroying creation. They're basically in a long game of politicking and influencing us in the materium. Granted they do that along with the other realms influencing us, but that's politics so bleh. Truth be told the "devil" and all that aren't what people think. Most of the mythology around that character is posturing and assumption the church and other religious groups. The devil and his fellows are the prosecuting attorneys of the celestial bureaucracy, but not for sending people to hell for violating an arbitrary rule set. I'll let you figure out the implications of that.
What are you quoting?
In a way yes. Remember they work on a level wholly different from our own. And if it was an enochian Angel that's a whole new can of worms.
And yes, there seems to be quite the misunderstanding about fallen angels mostly because of the church.
Question: do you practice enochian? Or do you use another method to contemplate the angels?
The mix is the conscious but the pure demonic/angelic personalities would still exists subconsciously. Upon awakening or death all three separate. Yes, it is the human side's responsibility to master and control the other sides. He is the mediator.
I have a direct line as it were through very specific contacts I'm not exactly allowed to discuss openly.
Did it once and never again. The enochian angels are best described as terrifyingly alien and powerful. Full on NOPE.exe
I have never heard of such a thing before. I'm guessing this is an idea form the Zohar?
Yeah, some ideas from the Zohar, other from direct experience.
I've been studying enochian, hopefully this year will do it, at least once. I've heard they're powerful and you have to be cautious. Well, Jack Parsons died in his enochian working, because of an explosion that ripped his arm and part of his face. He lived a little while after the blast.
(I was the "kind" person in the last thread)
I've come into contact with plenty, we all have, they are far more common than you would imagine. Like I said before I can see their wings.
I knew an angel quite well once upon a time, sorta a reverse of your situation, so I know how hard it s to accurately describe to people without sounding insane. Like I said before you don't have to worry, it's all very natural.
You won't learn anything more here, /x/ is not a place for information, however much it wears the guise.
>You won't learn anything more here, /x/ is not a place for information, however much it wears the guise.
yeah, all you get here is faggot role players like this guy who tell you they know everything and have experienced it first-hand but for some reason can't give you any specific information.
I never said I couldn't give information
It's pretty simple, you either can see them for what they are or they look like regular (albeit astoundingly beautiful) people. Most people can't see their "wings" though, like some people can't see the color purple, and have no idea what they are missing.
The easiest way to spot them is in sunlight, it reflects off of them in fractals
An angel, also called a deva or tennin in the east, is composed of a single particle of Aether, as opposed to the mix of many particles of the four Earthly elements which salamanders, sylphs, undines, dwarfs, humans, bacteria and all other life 'under the sun' is composed of.
The elements exist like spheres-within-spheres. A sphere of Earth (Earth, as in the planet) is surrounded by a sphere of Water (The ocean.) This Water is surrounded by a sphere of Air (The atmosphere,) which is orbited by an orb of Fire (The sun.) Within the orb and surrounding it like a ring is a single particle of aether, which weaves the bodies of the gods.
Angels are aware of themselves as frames in a larger movie that's without beginning or end. And not only that, but each quark and electron in their body is a different frame. They have no concept of themselves as people, receiving their instructions from the non-local variable suggested by superdeterminism.
A person, cell, molecule or atom has five layers. You have a ring of aether that orbits your center of gravity, a core orb of aether that defines that defines the center of gravity, and sandwitched between them are layers of the four elements; Airy skin, Watery bowels, Earthy muscles and bones, and Fiery brain.
An angel is a complex weaving of an Atheric particle, which can disguish itself by superimposing over a body of the four Earthly elements and controlling it's movements and thoughts. It needs to do this because Aether is much weaker than Earth for the same volume. The Earthly body is a cursor on the screen of Earth for the Atheric body.
They can't love, but they can devote themselves to people, return affections, and have sex.
"Out of the middle of the fire came what appeared to be four living creatures. This was what they looked like: they had the appearance of human beings. Each one had four faces, and each one had four wings. Their legs were straight, and they had hooves like the hooves of calves, glittering like polished brass. Beneath their wings, they had human hands on all four sides, along with their four faces and four wings… As for the appearance of their faces, each one had a human face, and a lion’s face on the right side, and a bull’s face on the left side, and an eagle’s face… [Around them] were what looked like burning coals and lamps, going up and down among the living creatures. The fire was bright, and out of the fire came lightning."
This is from the Bible. Ezekiel 1:5–13.
OK lets get real.
First of all english is not my native language (self-learner) so i will make some mistakes. Just dont focus on them and try to see what i try to describe.
Second of all there is a lot of time and attention to understand this.
Thiord of all - my knowledge comes from Akasha Chronickeles. That is not library, not in human way of thinking. It is Library of The Cosmos/Universe and all humans have - at least hav the possibility - access to it.
OK i will use some shortcuts so try to recon what i try to explain. And observe it as a "whole".
First thing first You need to understand what "humans" are. They are Monads Of Consciousness. Everything that exists is just Consciousness in different forms and manifestations. As Hermetics says "different frequency". Consciousness is Energy, Energy is Life and Life is Consciousness. That is simplification for better understanding, because our current perspective is very limited.
Matter is considered as very, very low frequency. If may i use different term - "hell" is most apprioprate. Yes, matter is hell because is lowest form of manifestation.
Everything that exists forms a Net of streams of energy or - if you want to use metaphor from programming - a "code". Simple programs use less coding, more complicated programs need more complicated code or more "dense" programming. Perspective is very important also. Something that seems "solid" from one perspective is tursn out to be made from strings if you will use tool to "look at it close".
So everything that exists is ONE. This "force" was reconsidered by many and named by many but every name we use to describe it is not good enought. Some might call it "Source", others "God" or "The Creator". Name doesnt matter.
All that exists is like this net, fractal and holographin in all scales (search about those things, it is very interesting). It is kinda like Universe - we see our Solar System, that is part of our Galaxy. But further we go our Galxy becomes just aprto od some light point that is a part of larger net. Ans into microscale the sdame thing.
Humans, like all Monads, are those "points of density" of Consciousness. We are more complex "codings" than minerals or animals, for exmaple. Humans are breaking point of The Whole (Evolution of The Whole). This is the "meeting" point for Two Elements Of All - Light and Drakness, Male and Female, etc. Many names, same thing in all Traditions.
Humans like all Monads on this layer of Reality are seeds. Seed can grow because has the potential. And when seed grows it dies, it is no longer seed, it is something more. But still has "seed" within. But not all seeds grow - some die and rot, feeding those who grows. Like in Nature. Humans are the same.
So That Force that is behind existence ans is existence has a "Plan". But every Monad can refuse to follow it - that is Free Will. Just that, the decision if You want to be Part of the PLan or not. When You are not, You cut Yourself from The Source. And this is the point when Monad becomes "demonic" - it has too feed on others to survive. Parasite. Humans are in a large portion "demons" - they has to devour other living things to survive. What they do to animals, planst and this planet is just horrible. But that doesnt matter now.
Humans as Monads have this decision to make - i follow The Plan or i wont. Most of You decided - without any awarness - that Yopu wont. You have been manipulated into that, but that is just a side note.
When Monad is Growing it becomes something more, as part of The Plan. "Angelic Consciousness" You might call it. And some of those come back here to give guidance for You.
You are Lost Childern in the Dark Night and You follow wrong direction. As species. You are like rats trusting ratcather and following him blindly into Your own doom. Nature wont tolerate such abomination as humans become any longer. Your "owners" - demonic to the point of no return - know this and they are preparing for what is coming. They will fail and with them all that wont try save themselves. "Angels" and other "Highier Consciousness" are here to save as many as we can.
Yes, we are here. Many of us resigned from our "powers" just to be here and offer guidance to You. We come as humans, we look like humans, we act like humans but we dont follow empty shit that You see as "worthy" and "wealth". Seek us, we are around you. We dont follow "carrers", we dont seek "money" and all that worthless shit. But we watch and seek those who seek us.
Dont be blind.
Alsoe bewaer - there are impostrors aroud and their goal is to manipulate You.
ALL the answers You will find WITHIN YOU. If someone tells You that he/she knows the path, follow him/her - IT IS LIAR. True Guide will show You the direction but The Journey is Youers and Yours only.
I will be here for a time. If anyone have any question - ask them.
If not - take care.
Those are great places to start: triviumeducation.com
What proof You will consider trust worthy?
>god is not sadist
lets compare how many people god kills in the bible vs how many people satan kills in the bible
estimated- 24,994,828 (this includes the noah flood which has no number in the bible)
satan: numbered 10
>god is not a sadist
>is not a sadist
>not a sadist
"Angel" is just term for "messenger". And from whom he came? That is whats matter.
"Angelic consciousness" is different term and describes a different state of Evolution fo Consciosness.
Your language is very fucked up. That is why i recommend for start: >>17322938
I had visions, then wrote down a 'grand message' in the form of megabytes of text, then started reading what others had to say and realized that I'd independently come to the same conclusions.
Here's one of my illuminated manuscripts;
>Alchemical Diamond bodies
Time frame is hard to precise because "time" is only observed "here". It is hard to say really - could be 10 years or 50 but from what i know it is no longer than 80 - 100.
Do not suicide. Try to Know Thyself. The Middle Path is The Key to Grow. Balance between Dark and Light. Relationship between Darkness and Light is intimate one, and also between You and True Creator. Find "it" Within, experience it. Read more. Start from here: >>17322938
The whoe collapse problem as i reffer to it is kinda problematic. You see this planet is forseen as "public toilet that everybody forgot about" and currently was found out. And at one point someone will have to clean it and it will be harsh for every living being that is in it. Check Slavs "myths" and wedas, but start from Trivium.
In shor words - all of this shothole is condamned to be grinded into fertilizer but before that "we" want to save everything that is worth saving. That is why timeframe is not decided for like 100%. But patience is ending and there will be moment when efforts to save will stop because current "owners" are using that to buy more time for themselfs.
I will start with the Trivium as you've suggested, thank you again. Might I ask what happens when you commit suicide? I do wish there was an end, and I am young to be thinking that, but physical pain really can be a detriment to life. Somehow we press on. Sorry for the negativity.
Oh i understand better that You might think. I actually was in situation i tried use that "rout of escape" but it is forbidden to me. But thakns to this experience i really know and understand how hard living here can be.
Suicide from point of view of newly formed Monad is like jumping into the grinder without trying to grom and actualizing the potential. You will experience all the cogs and blades that are turning You into fertilizer - that is "hell" and for each one is manifests in different ways. It is also purification but really i would prefer to save anyone such experience (i know, ive been in "hell" for over 10 hours; in what form came to me it doenst matter, what matters is experience and that is....).
For growing Monad is like backing to seed form. Nothing good really.
It is hard to explain really. I hope i gave You ta least glipmse fo Understanding.
Sorry for the short responses, I am on a crappy device. I'm sorry you have had to endure that, but I'm grateful for your wisdom. I have a feeling I have a lot to purify, this world can be filthy, as I have been. Still sad to know that I've drawn away from the source,I hope I can get back. Also notice how much I say "I", all ego.. Sorry I am so selfish.
Thank you forthe resources.
It is like seed turn into fertilizer that is used on plant, processed by to form another seed. That is the Reincarnation and that explains why many people have memories of the same "before" life - because they are Monads made from particles of old Monad that was grinded into fertilizer and used to form new Monads.
In current situation all that will put some effort will be saved. But without effort there will be no Salvation.
To use graphic presentation - there are beings that are reaching out to all of You here but without reaching from Your side there will be no helping. Just that.
Youre welcome. Use it. Do not stress on it, just follow the flow.
You're really fucked in the head.
>I suspect my life partner is an angel
Listen to how you sound.
>I am under the impression and have reason to believe the person I am emotionally invested in is a winged person and would like to know what metaphysical laws govern the relationship between us.
You prick, get back on your zoloft.
You're worse than Stephanie Meyer
"Ego" is a tool necessery in this form of existence. Learn how to use it to be free from being used by it.
All is simple but not easy.
Dont be to harsh on yourself - You are magnificent being with Endless potential :) You really matter :) And You are and were wanted. If You wouldns - You would not exist :)
You came here just to insult others? Just turn back and retur to any hole You crawled from.
TAKE UR FUCKING RP TO /CHRISTIAN NIGGER OP
u should visit mexico i heard its nice
>these are mexican christians btw
>remember u hate them because they are shitskins?
>build a christian wall
SIN() cos() and tan() are mathmatical functions for working with triangles
>(like sin and saytan)
they are essential for building Waveforms and sound waves
>theres your angles stupid fuckshit go away
That is very interesting text. See how it resonates with all i wrote.
It is time for me.
Take care all of You.
people are sadly obsessed with sex and perversion.. trying to drag every topic into this.. succubus, demon rape, astral sex, bla bla.. you name it..
Maybe you are not able to see the angels, because you expect something magical. Every human is in a sense an angel. If someone told you, he is an angel would you believe him? Trapped in a human vessel, everyone is limited. Illusions are the key : humans without illusions can help others or manipulate them and in this case the would be Angeles or Demons, because they know what they do. The others, trapped in illusions, are just ants. Angels calms, Demons disturbs, you are able to feel both.
Angels do exist on earth in human form and are very easy to spot when you know what to look for.
When one shows up on earth they live as an ordinary human and they live their lives among us, knowing they are different but not knowing how or why
Its only when they come close to archiving their purpose for being on earth that they realize what they are. This process is jarring and often mistook for mental or emotional breakdown.
As for being able to pick them out of a crowd they do have certain tells but they would get mad at me if i spouted it out on a message board. However I will say that you can sense them when they are around you
They are still creatures and being around them makes your heart still as well.
I do not need to, they will start moving out in the open soon.
Believe me when i say they are so numerous on earth right now they are practically bouncing off each other.
There are 2 at my workplace alone.
Im sorry but if they wanted people to know they would reveal themselves to them. It would be disrespectful for me to go against their wishes.
They also communicate differently than humans do. They attach feelings and intention to their words. It is extremely efficient way to communicate complex ideas. To hear one speak in their revealed form is like being wrapped in a warm blanket, its extremely pleasant.
> Well number 1 angels aren't real
> Even if you believe the only contextual sign is the Old Testimate
> They aren't described in any way as human shapped
> One of the only ones described had 1,000 eyes
> Lovecraftian Horror shit
> Your view of angels come from Medieval times, a few hundred years ago all that shit was glorified to get converts
So even if they are real, your bastardized understanding of Christianity is 100% made up famtasy
"me like tits hahaha stupid people who are attracted to emotions lulz go back to tumblr me likey butt and tits hmm nice fap fap me monkeyy uga uga"
glad not all men are like this
>So this is the stupid shitty ideas women make up and masterbate to. Okay. Men like tits and women like effeminate men who speak with emotions.
Just be careful not to fall for this trap. Women actually think these men are beta as fuck.
Hahaha think whatever you like, I don't give a shit. Men are biologically attracted to women who aren't fat cows, so that's what we jack off to. Women are attracted to men who are a little faggy and will cater to their innane, boring, endless emotional needs, so they make up these fake men to flick their clits to. To each their own.
>Matter is considered as very, very low frequency. If may i use different term - "hell" is most apprioprate. Yes, matter is hell because is lowest form of manifestation.
I disagree with this. So, there are these levels, from "high" to low: spiritual, mental, astral, etheric, and physical (us).
But demons are at a "lower" level than physical. They do not exist in physical and etheric levels, but do exist in the astral level, where they can "connect" to us.
More or less, it is very practical tho. Both for friends and enemies. Could you imagine facing an enemy that could project their own anger and murderous intent on you? I assure you it would make you too scared to even fight back.
It's completely true, if ever a guy acts interested in the boring shit your saying it's because he wants to get his dick wet. Which is unfortunate, but necessary. If men didn't have this drive then women would be forced to become interesting, funny, helpful members of society. But thank God we do! If men woke up tomorrow without their iron constitution born of the desire of the jizz in their balls to find release then we wouldn't put up with your shit and the entire human race would die in a single generation
yeah its true for most guys, but not for all of them, i dont expect you monkey to understand anything though "le redpill" "le tits and pussy" uga buga monkey talks
but like i said most guys (and women) being degenerate trash makes the few people who aren't so rare and beautiful
if you are mostly concerned about getting your dick wet and you find the concept of people being attracted to emotions ridiculous obviously a primitive pleb like you cant relate to people who feel different
yeah just like your reading comprehension, that one doesnt exist either
>if you dont believe in angels and think its bullshit i respect that but just move on please this is a paranormal board, not an science/atheism only board
Did you just call me a pleb?
Fuck me, you're worse off then I realized. I bet you have dyed hair and everything.Men aren't attracted to emotions, and even if they were "hungry" isn't an emotion, "fat" and "weeabo" aren't desirable personality traits.
Eat more vegetables, read more books, and start hitting the gym or you'll die alone and unloved. Peace sister - we're all gunna make it.
thank you then
a monkey like you driven by tits and pussy will never understand superior feelings and im in a happy relationship no worries
i dont have dyed hair, and the conversation ends here, pleb
These guys are no fairytales and while they come across as faggy they are gods in their own right. One of them can (and in the past has) tank whole armies.
I live in a town of about 30k and personally know 2. If this is indicative of how many are on earth then there are a shit ton of them all here at the same time.
I wonder why there would be so many of these practical gods on earth for? I dont think the answer is they are here to flesh out their feelings.
of course it is, i told you and other people several times to just GTFO and stop derailing/shitposting, hide the thread, whatever
yet you saw the same thread again, decide to click it, reply and then to make almost the same identical stephanie meyer-comment
get a life
i do what i want and you can only cry like a bitch and keep telling people to stop liking what you dont like but pro tip: we dont care
you are just wasting your time and give me attention like the pleb you are
i suggest you look up what the word paranormal means, if you think angels or demons arent a paranormal you should maybe get the much needed brain surgery instead of shitting up threads
or instead of whining about what doesnt belong here, open your own totally paranormal thread
angels are humans who found ways of diverting themselves from the timeline and effecting things from throughout spacetime.
im lucifer btw, but like the actual life.
>mfw fucked with my own life, in order to fuck up the one who did that and recognize him as separate so i could be god.
this, almost entirely exactly.
these two are how they identified themselves to me.
i chose not to recognize either as better, they both have great ideas.
im not going to hell im minding my own business youre the one who keeps harassing and attacking me
enjoy hell nerd
My theory about all this is that some attention-starved shut-in saw how quickly a couple shills and the sheeplike mentality of this board turned dogmen into the meme of the week and now they want angels to be the next big topic.
Sell your soul to a demon and you'll see more than just angels
meh i dont really think its possible, or at least let me phrase it like this, i tried to sell my soul to demons or people, like i gave it away so many times
but i still have it, i dont think it works like that
Okay, after reading most of the threads, I can say, most of you are retarded.
Yes, YHVH is real. He has angels, ehp act as his agents. The same goes for the other side, with Satan and his demons.
Neither of them are the true God. They are just parasitic entities who live off of peoples emotions and energy in general.
They have existed for a long time, and waged war against one another during that whole time.
If people side with one, the other will harass the person in question. If you choose niether, you will be ignored unless you show some great degree of willpower, magical energy, life force, or whatever. Then they will try to win you over using their agents. I was the physical host of Asmodeus for a while and I used their own methods against them. Against both sides. I started another war, with humanity at stake. Don't believe me? Summon Asmodeus, ask him, if you can. Ask Raphael if you are on YHVHs side.
Long story short, the agents can enter humans, and it isn't always possession. They can also manifest in this world, but not by their own will and not for a long time.
Nothing much, I learned in the ways of magic. Expanded my power, just so they could use my life force to gain power.
Got in a couple of fights against the agents of YHVH, lost an arm in the astral plane (I still have trouble using it in the physical plane).
It was fun for most of the time, since I thought I hada friend for the first time in my life.
so basically you cant do anything obvious you can just do stuff that with confirmation bias and selective perception look like you did it?
dont get me wrong, maybe its real, but im just curious because it seems to be always the same reply
this is what i do with the greatest power of the universe.
i feel like its what the human viewpoint is supposed to do, having considered the potential of myself being the human viewpoint for a variety of hosts.
Well, Tolkien said that mages are subtle.
I have a higher pain treshold than most people, can lift more than my frame should be able to, I smokebamd yet I can be 4 minutes without air, I can summon storms when there is a clear sky (and yes, they are surprise storms, as the forcasts didn't show them), have great healing and regenerative capabilities...
Maybe you are right. There isn't an objective measure for any of those
I'm neither schizophrenic (I was tested for pretty much everything because I attempted suicide once and was put on observation, only thing they found was Bipolar type I) nor a RP. Maybe I could do more, but I didn't bother with anything (lazy underachiever, your typical 4chan user)
I know, that is for you to believe or not. Can I roleplay without actually knowing I am roleplaying? I know about NLP, electrodes in your brain, blah blah, there is no free will...
this is not roleplay ( at least im not) but what is autistic about roleplay? autists tend to have shit tier imagination/creativity and are more rational, most autists are atheists
I could come over to you, break my leg, walk it of and heal fully in 3 weeks? Please give me some contact information. While I'm there, I will conjure a week of rain? Sounds good?
As Ihave said, lazy underachiever. And I have no need for billions. And I don't care enough about other humans to help.
I am in the cesspool of the internet, after all. What do you expect from me?
sorry i just read your text again and realize that youre totally insane, i mean people calling me insane for asking if its POSSIBLE that my boyfriend is a fallen angel with erased memories (i dont claim it, just wondering)
yet you write stuff like
>I was the physical host of Asmodeus
> I started another war, with humanity at stake.
so if im already snowflakey for the angel bf story, i think you blow me out of this orbit, with being a host for archdemons, battling people on the astral realm, starting another war with humanity at stake, all because of you, you who is a lazy, poor, random, friendless human
yeah son youre 99,9% delusional but its ok, if you enjoy it
From what i know i can tell you that angels are not supposed to interact with humans in a direct way. I have studied several religous texts for years. On the sacred books that conform the pentateuch you can find your answer. Theres only one angel that had a relationship with a human and that angel was luzbel. He stole from god and Adam the first woman from humanity. Lilith betrayed god and Adam mesmerized by the greatness of the fallen angel and became the source of the original sin. You must know that no angel from since then have the right to ever interact with humans. The ones who do, are not angels anymore. If you suspect your boyfriend is a fallen angel theres a high chance that you are not gifted but condemned.
Hey. Get off your high horse lady. Your pretentiousness is showing. I think you may be surprised how much. Guess you can't see it from your lofty position...
1. Are you telling us that your boyfriend is an angel? Yes/No
2. Do you believe this is an isolated case? Yes/No.
3. Do you believe yourself special (eg. Blessed)? Yes/No.
4. Can you quantify any features your bf has that would qualify him as 'angelic' rather than 'human'
5. Can you provide any evidence that your bf is an angel?
Theological discussion aside, I would very much like to scientifically analyze what makes this guy an actual angel.
That's fair enough isn't it? Having the grace to accept another's scepticism would be admirable. Im really trying to accept some of your viewpoints, but your childish demeanor and namecalling really damage your credibilty. Perhaps you should stop indulging yourself and the theologists that are agreeing with you. Try discuss the matter rationally, scientifically, with the other half of us. Fuck.
So when I was meditating a year ago I somehow think I triggered something and ended up having some weird vivid vision of a huge angel throwing down a spear of light and stabbing me through the chest. Honestly it felt like it was merciful, but at the same time like I deserved it. If I meditate on that point, I can still feel something off in my chest, like a warm but depressing feeling.
I think I'm gonna die from something stabbing me there, and I'm totally cool with it.
you have accepted death
>clearing your mind and opening yourself up will not make you more receptive or aware of creepy visions
>I can will myself into being the chosen one!
Thankfully i was the roleplayer and the deluded one here.
>YES, I HAVE IT, I COMMAND THE ONE GOD OBEYS MY WILL AND CHOOSES ME BECAUSE I'M SITTING ON MY ASS BREATHING IN A FUNNY WAY
Yeah, that's how it works anon.
>god just chooses people at random
Ever heard of the expression God helps those who help themselves? You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart? Get out of here with this shitty chosen one garbage, you don't even understand your own fairy tales.
Nonsense. And ethnocentric. Have you ever heard of visionquests? Various cultures have or had rites of passage where people would carry out practices to invoke visions.
These days there are more older souls in incarnation and the access to visions is much easier, we don't have to do visionquests although they can be very powerful and useful. Visions are 'given', but they can also be sought out, in contemplation, meditation or ritual.
Well, even if they DO appear as a studly muscular human with wings, they'll still need to yell "Be not afraid!" because let's face it - how often, in your day-to-day life, does someone in long robes and fluffy wings show up out of nowhere?
You'd be all "Holy SHIT what in the ACTUAL FUCK is THAT?!?!?"
And if they appear as they naturally do...hoo boy, heart attack is probably the order of the day.
They don't wanna do that, though, unless they have a really specific point they need to get across. I think that most of the time, any encounters we have with angels are indistinguishable from interactions with normal humans.
>Ever heard of the expression God helps those who help themselves?
Yes, it's not biblical.
>Seek me, said God
Yes, that means find God, not sit down and breathe.
>but you find God by sitting down and breathing
Of course anon.
Look, I'm going to tell you something that's going to amaze you in surprising ways.
Sitting down and breathing will do varied things for you, such as calming you down, but it wont do a miracle.
Also keeping thoughts away, as good as it may be according to your fairytales, will deteriorate your brain for lack of use.
>You seem too sure that you cannot find God by sitting down and breathing.
And you seem to be a lunatic that picks whatever he likes of popular culture and several religions to fabricate his own feel good "spiritual knowledge".
Imagine if we did it like that with every field of life.
Fuck learning medicine, I'm going to read comic books about doctors, watch anime where doctors are present, and listen to urban legends about doctors, then I will practice fucking surgery.
you seem to have some complex of knowing the ultimate truth and to know what other people really are (to the point of calling strangers nobodies, without any information)
so yeah, youre clearly delusional and ill
Where do I even begin with this post?
>Yes, that means find God, not sit down and breathe.
Everyone finds god in different ways, and there are more types of meditation than just that, there's even more to just basic meditation than simply breathing, as well as different interpretations as to how it would be relevant. Some meditative practices involve opening yourself up to everything, that includes God, in ways similar to prayer. There are even ancient forms of Christian meditation for this exact purpose. Do you know anything about what you're talking about?
>Also keeping thoughts away, as good as it may be according to your fairytales, will deteriorate your brain for lack of use.
Oh, so you don't. Otherwise you would know that scientific studies have shown that meditation does the complete fucking opposite of deteriorate your brain. Check your facts before you spew shit.
>And you seem to be a lunatic that picks whatever he likes of popular culture and several religions to fabricate his own feel good "spiritual knowledge".
Where did you even get this idea? Projecting much?
>Fuck learning medicine, I'm going to read comic books about doctors, watch anime where doctors are present, and listen to urban legends about doctors, then I will practice fucking surgery.
False equivalence and completely irrelevant.
I like how the only answer that actually cites the old testament gets ignored
Human-shaped angels are pure fanfiction.
Tell me your boyfriends name. I'm Lucifer and I've been trying to find all these fuckers who are on earth so I can axe them. Trust its better if you just hand him over, if not I'll axe you both when I find him.
you think youre lucifert but dont even know my or my boyfriends name? nice powers, faggot
the real lucifer could just teleport into my fucking house right now unlike you so stfu loser
An angel can only be in love with a human if that human in question is a fallen angel. He/she would be watching the fallen angel from above and waiting for the day when the fallen can join the angel up in heaven again (if this is possible through hundreds and hundreds of years of reincarnation).
OR, two fallen angels can find themselves here on planet Earth and fall in love, I suppose. Anything is truly possible because we live in an infinite universe.
There is no Lucifer, for he has "fallen" (truthfully I left due to the evil nature of God and his followers, they could not kick me out should I desire to go back and make adjustments to their source code, it is truthfully a small segment of hell full of the weakest warriors that can be sustained in existence), my name is Satan when on earth or in hell, I have no powers other than the ability to fight physically greater than any man in fair body to body combat,
Read a book.
>Angels are not pretty humans with wings, desu.
Actually, according to the old scriptures, they were pretty terrifying (and cool, if you ask me). Also, they are not capable of having free will. That's why God supposedly created humans, because he wanted a creature that would CHOOSE to love him/her/it.
They are supposed to be so inorganically constructed you would lose your mind if you see their true forms (pretty much Lovecraft there) and they are physically incapable of giving a shit about anything else other than their intended purpose.
The whole "pretty humans with wings" thing started with the Roman Empire, who took a bunch of references from different cultures: Egypt and Isis, pope Constantine having a hard on for the "anglii" (anglosaxons) and so on. Then people decided just to roll with it.
>pic related, a cherubim. Not the fat baby angel thing.
Angels don't fall. That's fanfiction written afterwards (that whole book might as well be). The thing is, the Bible in general is a heavily edited piece that has just a few books. There are a bunch of gospels that aren't even there. And even so, most of the gospels in it (at least the new testament) were written at least 100 years later. As with everything in history, you can crossreference with other texts (given that the old testament is pretty much a collection of stories from the TaNaKh, and some are heavily edited; and even some stories of the TaNaKh are based on older legends and so on) and find common descriptions for the same elements.
>either way, ironically, it's their job to fall because *monotheistic duality* isn't allowed in neoreligions
ok so here's a perspective not often stated. ever looked into chaos magic? well through it you learn that whatever people believe in exists, like unconscious Tulpamancy. the more people believe the more powerful the entity. so, how many versions of the angels, demons, God and Jesus are out there... too many to count.
that being said, I have had experience with angels.. really it's all energy that you perceive as an angel if you are in that paradigm or it might appear as something else that is in your reality. imo it all boils down to balance. both sides are necessary for spiritual growth. the real crime of modern religion is cutting people off from the dark side and turning it into something to be shunned and feared. it effectively stops people from growing spiritually. except based buddhism
We are all born as angels and fall into the illusions produced by our minds with our first lie.
Our mind is heaven or hell.
We never learn to shut down our minds which is a sandbox.
To become an angel again we have to learn to shut down the mind and live in the now.
I feel like the idiocy in your post may constitute a public nuisance.
There are 66 books in the bible, and a half-dozen or so that other people wanted to place in the bible that have no place there. They're full of lies.
The gospels not in the bible are gnostic gospels, and deify satan.
The earliest gospel was written about 15 years after the resurrection, and all of them were completed by 70 AD, less than 40 years later, and well within the lifetimes of the eyewitnesses to the events.
There are no contemporaneous publications of any kind even hinting that the gospels are not precise and accurate. None.
The Old Testament IS the tanakh. The tanakh IS the Old Testament. The tanakh is based on the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, YHWH.
You may be the most idiotic person on /x/.
Congrats. That should win you something.
I wondered what it would be like to fuck an angel, you think their vaginas/asses got celestial fire in them?
Sure dude. The text is heavily edited, mistranslated and overall made so Yisas Christ would look better in comparison. Most chapters left out were simply because it didn't fit the image.
The tanakh is the old testament, but not in its entirety.
I still don't see your bishonen angels, anon.
did you know its all egyptian cuniform on its side?
I have seen angels. I have legal documents proving it.
Try some scholars on for size then.