What are your opinions about this website /x/?
This fucking shit keeps getting spammed here the last couple of weeka. Go shill somewhere else!
We know you are defective nazis who can't into magic. I should know since I was in your sect more than 10 years ago.
Since then, I fought against you along with a number of other satanists. I thought you were all but dead, but I was sadly mistaken
So that's why they are the laughing stock of the magical community!
Yeah, their magic doesn't work, and if it did, it would be much weaker than that of other schools. Also, it preaches against the Jews, then talks about ancient Israelite gods and and practices like they invented it.
And the ufology? Don't get me started on that shit. Satan is an ayy lmao, suure
The JoS are the laughing stocks of the Satanic community. They are known for errant plagiarism, being a neo-nazi front, and being a basic starting point for theistic Satanists, all of whom are expected to go beyond the extremely limited and reactionary JOS.
Satanic groups and cults incorporate literately all of those. Everything from Islamic to traditional Satanism takes from those sources.
>i know more about it as an adult christian than a teenager
What does the Satanic community mean when they are crossing the abyss?
What does evil mean in the Satanic community?
What are the basics of Satanism?
There are books... Magical studies aren't something that you can study from websites.
Well, at least chaos matrix gives you good guidelines for chaos magick, but it takes experimentation and a personal approach. Bonus points, it has no dogma!
>What does the Satanic community mean when they are crossing the abyss?
>What does evil mean in the Satanic community?
>What are the basics of Satanism?
First of all, don't act like there is one set definition of Satanism. It means different things to different people.
Second of all, I'm not about to be sucked into debating the lies and bullshit theories that make up Satanism. They don't deserve my respect.
And finally yes, I know more now than I did then because before I was blind. Now I see the true nature of Satan and his true followers. Most who claim to be his followers are just confused and don't know any better
>not one definition
re- I don't know.
>not to be sucked in
re- i don't know
>i know more than I did before
re- i actually don't know
Yet you can't answer any of those starter and beginning Satanist questions. Your conclusion is essentially sectarian phraseology: they are "lost" and by Christos you see the truth. Thanks for affirming that you are simply parroting criticism upon a particular variant of Satanism, most likely traditional Diabolism than other theist or atheistic forms.
Yes! The entire works of Aleister motherfucking Crowley! Hope your eyes bleed out reading it the next 10-15 years, depending on reading speed and comprehension... But before fucking the great beast, read all of Lon Milo Duquettes stuff on Thelema, because Crowley thinks you know some shit about magic(k) before reading his work.
Also, read your bitching Plato, Socrates, Descartes, Thomas Aquinas, Nietzche, Kant, Hegel, all of philosophy you can get your little slimy hands on.
Read some fucking Shakespeare as well. Read the Bible, for fucks sake! Read! Read! Read!
God damn it, is it hard to open a new tab and google some shit?
lol you just rekt yourself with this post. you come out here claiming to represent the "truth" of god and christ but you blatantly lied about "knowing" more about satanism now that you're a christian and i can't help but wonder if you were ever a satanist in the first place.
if you held the truth there would be no reason to lie.
Ohh you sure got me Mr. Intelligent Satanist man.
There's no point in debating someone who can't see the truth. You know exactly what I'm saying but you twist my words so they become lies. At least your doing your father proud.
i'm not gonna waste my time give you a long answer with quotes and all, but you say you know about satanism and then you can't give a single straight answer to some basic questions regarding what satanists believe. maybe you're not lying on purpose and only backed yourself into a corner when you realized that everything you know about satan/satanism actually comes from a christian point of view. considering that you're a man of god, i should give you the benefit of the doubt, right?
Dude, there is no such thing as just magic. It is intertwined with mathematics, physics, philosophy, chemistry, LIFE in general... You can't have magic without life. If you can not comprehend that, I don't think magic is for you. But that is just my opinion.
And I told you to read a guy named Crowley. And I mentioned a site called chaos matrix, didn't I?
>It is intertwined with mathematics, physics, philosophy, chemistry,
if you're saying that reading all of that is necessary to practice magic, then i guess you don't believe that any ancients ever practiced magic because they certainly didn't have access to modern knowledge and probably not even the science of their own time. you sound like a smug asshole and i doubt you've accomplished anything magical.
if magic requires an implicit, intuitive understanding, then i guess it's totally unnecessary to recommend that he go read fifteen different subjects before starting on magic, right?
just saying that you make no sense.
implicit and intuitive don't go along with thousands of hours of reading philosophy and chemistry books. does that make sense?
you're another poser with Capitalized Words in place of actual insight.
Well, I recommended that to that anon because he is out of touch with anything really. He wants results but doesn't want to work for them. There is no such thing as a free lunch, in magic even moreso
You know, if you've got the aptitude, you should join the Mage's College in Winterhold
satanists also write "Xtians" instead of Christians sometimes, they believe true names have power and they refuse to give that power to Jesus by mentioning him... it is one of their tricks, and I am not falling for it
lol your christianity has made you a baby scared of words? i think i'll stick with my knowledge that god doesn't exist. but don't worry, neither does satan. it's just you and me and all the other suckers, anon.
You're an idiot, when did he say he was scared of them? He said they hold power
Yeah real satanists believe that. I'm a Christian and even I know words hold power, especially Jesus Christ
I never said anything about being Christian, just revealed a way to identify Satanists in disguise (e.g. you) before some easily influenced anons fall prey to your deception. Be gone now, and come back when you are better prepared.
he probably had no knowledge of the orthodox/greek catholic (the exact same thing btw) spelling, just tried to use a bastardized version of the English spelling to avoid saying the "true" name of Christ/Christo/Christus/etc
Probably. It just bothers me that people have no understanding of their own religion. Most american xtians (yes, xtians because they are lite christians) think Jesus was American or Mexican and that orthodoxy and catholicism are the devils spawn.
>Most american xtians (yes, xtians because they are lite christians) think Jesus was American or Mexican and that orthodoxy and catholicism are the devils spawn
What in the actual fuck are you talking about?
Well, you're wrong. A few retards might think that but to say that most do is pretty retarded. I live in the U.S. and have never heard one person ever say that. I'm aware those people do exist though
When I followed Satan I was left empty and cold in darkness
Now that I follow God I feel his love and see the truth because I stand in his light
The truth doesn't need to advertise itself beyond simply existing. Lies spread like wildfire though to cover up the truth. Just look at the world and see how much aligns with Satan
It's pretty simple
You speak about this truth and your perception of reality as absolute, while positing knowledge about a subject which you succinctly avoided, all the while decrying the adversarial questioner as an intentional liar?
>twist my words
From reading your exchange with others, I see now that you hadn't implied that you understood Satanic positions better than you had when you were younger. Instead, you are suggesting that your particular religious system "enabled" you to regurgitate qualifications in an exoteric manner that invalidates your youthful interpretations. This implies that your understanding of Satanism is strictly from a brief dabbling in your teens, with any esoteric meanings long scrubbed away by scriptural proselytization.
Satan is the name of the totality, the moniker of the eternal black chaos and all (non-)emanations. All gods are born from the strumming of this infernal pan-dimensional chaos. Samael/Lilith is the Dark Father and the Sinister Mother; alas, so is Asmodeus/Lilith, as well as Pan, the Horned God of the Wild, and Hecate, the Night Matron of the Crossroads. The names of and for the extensions and substance of the primordial darkness are many and vary greatly. Its creations, regardless of tendency, are as limitless as the dancing of chaos.
Not that guy, but I see you are referring to the qlipoth. Can you tell me why do Sammael and Asmodeus rule the same sphere, according to some texts? My best friend and I are devoted to Sammael and Asmodeus respectively, so when we found that out, we were like whoaaaah
lol i had to go before because i have a life but it's funny how confident you are in something you're wrong about. zero reason to believe i'm a satanist yet you're sure i am because someone else called him christos in stead of jesus christ. do you see how silly you are?
go pray on this and see what god says. if he agrees with you about my secret satanist deception, it's because you're only talking to yourself. because god should know what the truth is, right?
Some useful information on meditations, veers off from Satan's teachings with racism and some bigotry. Jews aren't "evil".
JoS claims Satan is the creator God of All yet appears to race hate from what I've seen.
>Most american xtians (yes, xtians because they are lite christians) think Jesus was American or Mexican and that orthodoxy and catholicism are the devils spawn.
no, these are americans on /x/ and /pol/ and 4chan-type places generally. normal american christians aren't anything like that so these people are relegated to the internet wasteland. some of the real life christians are idiots, of course (especially on 4chan and /x/!), but don't let your perception get skewed from all the bullshit you read around here.
Not him but..,
"He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters"
Are you with God and the truth or against it.
One can only have one master
Either your father is God the father
Or your father is the father of lies, Satan
yeah, i joined a couple of their yahoo groups to see more info and it's full of hitler/kikesrbad/racemixingisbad and even national socialism info. seems like a way to recruit people to neonazism.
I'd argue the biggest trick Satan ever pulled was convincing himself he didn't exist and that he wasn't God, to help forget the truth that Satan exists within his own mind and is surrounded by his own thoughts.
I am that I am.
what jesus said really doesn't matter. he accused me of being a satanist which is a specific system of beliefs. i am an atheist and have no supernatural master, divine or otherwise.
if you want to consider me an enemy because i don't believe in god and am willing to say that to anyone who inquires, that's fine. i don't consider you an enemy but i certainly wouldn't invite you over for tea if you're saying that satan is my master unless i'm a christian because that shit is bananas.
i have values and a conscience and i do my best to contribute to making the world a better place in my own little ways and do as little harm as possible and i don't do it because i love jesus or because i'm afraid of eternity in hell. if you can't accept that i'm a good, godless person, that's your own issue.
but either way, i'm certainly not a satanist.
I know I sounded kind of harsh, but that's just the way I see it. I'm glad that you try to contribute to the world the best you can. That's what started my path to God. I believe this means you're open to the truth.
I'm not saying you are consciously being a Satanist, it's just that Satan is a powerful force who keeps many people from seeing the truth and love of God
Well you've got a point there. I happen to be one of those anons (except I'm on /his/ not /pol/)
Memetics. Social engineering. Viral marketing. Sociology and psychology.
Realize that 99% of humans are gullible cattle, and then try to figure out what makes the 1% so powerful and influential. Protip: It isn't magic.
>Why do Samael and Asmodeus rule the same sphere?
I suspect it has to do with Asmodeus being a chthonic aspect of Samael, who is dualistic both in nature and in his marriage with the bloody mother of all creation. Asmodeus is also united to the same primal force of power, the dragon womb wherein all emerge, are destroyed, and are reborn.
Asmodeus, Lord of Demons, is united with Lilith, the seductive maiden, while Samael is united through Leviathan unto Lilith, the bloody whore. War births between the two personifications of the primordial chaos, signifying the ever-shifting and self-cultivating pursuit for holistic mastery within the chaotic, primal forces of Sitra Ahra and ever-dynamic faces of chronozon.
Amusingly enough, I came across Samael, Lilith and Asmodeus prior to diving into Qlippothic study, as I worked first with Asmodeus, then Lilith, then Samael. I have recently picked up Qliphoth Opus 3, alongside the Book of Sitra Achra, Scales of the Black Serpent, Qabalah, Qliphoth and Goetic Magic, and Nightside of Eden. There remains a large amount of studying to do into the Qlippoth. So far it is extremely fascinating.
Why do you think they are said to rule the same sphere?