Is it possible/probable for something like cthulu or giant sea monsters to be living in our ocean? After all, only a very miniscule amount of the ocean has been explored
Not likely. Something that large is going to need tons of food daily to survive. Like several blue whales. It would need to move around to catch food. It would also take massive shits all over which would be found.
Giant sea monsters? Sure. There's no reason we couldn't find a new whale or squid or something. Probably nothing bigger than the whales we've already found, though (any larger and you run into logistical issues)
If there was, it would probably have to be a new form of life unlike the ones we have today. Something that could sustain a gigantic mass without the need to consume large amounts of food.
Deep sea creatures are amazing at conserving energy to the point where they can make a single meal last for weeks. That, and there is abyssal gigantism.
It is not known for certain why creatures get so huge at deeper levels, but one of the reasons is possibly the amount of chemicals introduced to the environment from hydrothermal vents and lack of predators (the most likely macropredatory creature of such depth is a giant squid/sperm whale).
However, there are some creatures that scientists can't wrap their head around: Pyrosomes.
They're zooids (sciencefag version of Voltron), composed of a ton of tiny creatures fused and polymerized into a single form. They can sustain tremendous pressure, survive being destroyed (as zooists breed and replace the damaged body with more of themselves) and can take pretty much any form they need (walking limbs, eyes, swimming paddles, stomachs, teeth, tentacles, stinging organs etc.)
The thing is, nobody really knows where they come from. There's no fossil history of them, or any history at all. They are a very recent creature that just seemed to be popping up lately, and getting extremely huge. One was observed hunting even though it lacks any nervous system capable of thought and behavior.
They seem really silly, but they are similar in function to the Man-O-War, that drifty fucker made up of a bunch of different creatures (aka, a regular fucking animal) that can kill shit.
So in general, new species of creatures are emerging despite having no real ancestors, just forming from whatever mad hell is down there. While I doubt a cthulhu is brewing up down there I'm pretty sure there's a ton of weird, huge, undiscovered shit living down in the deep, maybe even worse than any shark or whale we've seen up here.
Its surely possible. There was a 30 ft Great White shark that was tagged and monitored, it basically went near a massive sea shelf, and while moving one direction vertically, it instantly went vertical and plummeted at a rate impossible for a great white to move, down like 20000 feet or some shit, I dont recall the number. It was said decades ago and it continues to prove more true daily as we learn more about space, that we know less about what is in our own ocean than we do about what is out in the reaches of space.
>Their shit and piss is oil
>Oil isn't just buried prehistoric organic matter
>it's post-digested animals that this giant fucker has been eating and shitting out deep into the earth
Even a massive creature or a population of them wouldnt produce enough feces to even register or be noticeable in the least compared to the sheer volume of the ocean, thats not even factoring water being the universal solvent and all that.
Some of the largest things in the ocean eat the smallest things in the ocean. Why hunt for fucking whales when you could just open your mouth, suck in tiny creatures and call it a meal?
We don't actually know how large the colossal squid can grow, all we have are estimates based on recovered infant corpses.
Now remember, I said colossal squid, the much larger cousin of the giant squid.
Speaking of deep lakes, here's a comforting thought for you all. Some lakes are so deep and narrow that they can't go through the process of turnover, which mixes water at the top and bottom of the lakes (as well as the oxygen in the water). This causes massive amounts of CO2 to build up at the bottoms of these deep lakes. When the deeper parts of the lakes are disturbed (say a boulder falls from a cliff into the lake and sinks quickly to the bottom) this can cause all of that CO2 to rush to the top.
There are documented cases of this happening where entire villages of people will die in their sleep. Cattle lay dead in droves in the field, there's no screaming or panic, everything just suffocates.
Loch Ness monster is more believable than cthulu. Anatomy doesn't fit in with the evolution of species. If he was ayyy lmao then how did he get there in the first place. He would have also died in hibernation because water temerature isn't constant.
It's called a Limnic Eruption, there's only two documented cases but there's probably a lot more undocumented cases.
There's a ton of crazy things that can kill you in both oceans and lakes.
Thermal vents are a huge reason life can exist that far down. They would keep the waters relatively warm. You could imagine Cthulu camping out on a really big vent as he hibernates.
The majority of colossal squid exist around here and their sizes are generally unknown.
I have seen documentaries on this phenomena. You would think ground penetrating radars would be used on densely populated areas just as a precaution.
I wonder just how big the lakes can be.
Yeah the conditions required for something like that to happen are pretty rare as I understand it. I've certainly never been to a lake in excess of 1,000 feet deep. Plus with preventative measures now in place it will probably get even more unheard of. I know that at least one of the lakes where this happened now has a long pump system that shoots air into the bottom to keep the lake constantly churning.
Don't quote me on these numbers, but I think the lake I read about where this occurred was around 2-300 feet across and more than 1000 feet deep. Plus they also have to be close to the equator in order for the water to settle like that. If there are significant seasonal changes in the area of the lake then it'll go through fall and spring turnover. So if you live near a small lake by the equator that you can't see the bottom of, consider moving.
Mass cases of extinction of wildlife would be the best way to go about looking for these things. Maybe reports of old age explorers finding corpses in mass and labeling an area cursed could indicate past occurances.
>also literally all of florida at that point.
I know this is a really fucking silly question to ask on /x/, but how factual was any of what you just said?
Like, can you name me an actual species of organism that falls under the classification of "zooid", or is this a theoretical/mythical thing that hasn't been officially documented?
Not that poster but this is article has the deepest diving shark.
It's just impossible, King Kong or Gozilla couldn't live in the earth because they are to heavy and tall for our atmosphere so don't even talk about creatures similar so Cthulhu.
Zooids are an actual thing. They're basically a multi structural animal composed of many parts.
It gives you a basic explanation of Pyrosomes.
What is this, a picture for my aunt?
The shark that was killed was 9 foot in length -- not 30. The current theory is that a bigger Great White killed it.
Just expanding on the whole large animal that needs minimal food. Snakes are a good example of this. Big snakes can survive off of food for years. So assuming there is something bigger than a whale down there. Logically it would be a deep sea ambush predator with an extremely slow digestive system. Diet would consist of giant or colossal squid and sperm whales.
This is a very good example. Seems really possible to me. Diet could also involve other gigantic shit we've never even heard of.
Thanks for this thread, guys. I'm pretty into outer space, and as a result I haven't really given the ocean enough attention. It's fucking creepy down there. Fascinating.
Giant sea monsters? Yes.
Cthulu however would not be living in our oceans if it had a choice. Know your lore scrub
It's a different kind of environment to send things exploring into. Space is a vast nothingness without pressure. Refer to the 2nd post in about the Mariana Trench, how it details the pressure that far under water.
i imagine when seeing this that theres a small town over there that has lived near this gigantic thing frozen in the ice beneath them for so long that they aren't even afraid anymore. they just drive trucks and shit over it, ice skate on the ice sheet you can see it through, they just don't give a fuck. maybe there's a prank the teenagers play on the little kids where they act like it's super scary when the little kid sees it for the first time so they get all freaked out, and then laugh and make fun of him for being afraid of "big timmy", as they call him.
I think you're thinking of that bullshit discovery channel doc about the "search for megalodon."
It was the exact same scenario, where they supposedly got a shark to ingest a tracking device, and then it descended so rapidly and deep that it could have only been a megalodon doing it.
only problem was the whole show was bullshit.
Some sea creatures don't float. The reason right whales are called that is because they were easy to hunt due to the fact they'd float after being harpooned. This isn't true for sperm whales or blue whales. We can't rely on finding corpses when it comes to sea exploration. Not to mention, the oceans scavengers are amazing at cleaning up.
Most of the ocean floor has been mapped with echolocation from my knowledge. However, we have barely begun trying to understand the wildlife that's down there. Think about all the species we've unintentionally wiped out completely that we have never even discovered...
I don't know, but I'm pretty sure my fiance won the lotto the other night and saw a giant (alive) squid get washed up on shore after a sneaker wave almost got him and his buddy.
We have private beach access and they took the dog out for a night walk.
His buddy said the water didn't sound right so they ran upstairs and sure enough, ten foot wall of water comes nipping on their heels.
They decided to sit at the top of the cliff after that, but while up there, they thought the wave washed a huge log up on shore or something. My fiance pointed the flashlight on it and he descibes it as a 'dinner plate sized orange eye, dark/black skin, and writhing and making freaky sounds against the rocks'.
Another huge wave came in a little after that and it was gone. Both of them thought they were hallucinating, but they remember the dog freaking out and barking.
The artical said that as a huge waterlogged rock shifts quickly down in the earth it allows waterto evaporate and get trapped under the upper crust which makes an underground ocean. Paraphrase of course
>new species of creatures are emerging despite having no real ancestors
Just because we have no fossils of their ancestors doesn't mean they don't exist. These things have no bones, so they wouldn't be likely to leave behind fossils in the first place.
Are you talking about this http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2014/06/nine-foot-great-white-shark-eaten-by-unknown-sea-creature/ ?
If so, this https://web.archive.org/web/20151224223514/http://sploid.gizmodo.com/mystery-solved-heres-the-animal-that-ate-the-9-foot-gr-1587429691 article says that researchers believe the predator to be a collosal cannibal great white.
Yeah this shit right here, sounds like some Minicon bullshit from Transformers.
You don't want creatures like that to evolve anymore intellectually, pretty much perfect predator.
if the water pressure/buoyancy (is that the right word? english is not my first language) is enough it can sustain bigger creatures (see whales) that can't survive outside said pressure.
ask and thou shalt receive
Stop talking about this shit, it creeps me the fuck out. I get shivers just thinking about being lost in the murky depths miles from home.
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Same deal here:
>and her why hate so much
This is one of the victims responding:
"Her" probably refers to The Fairy Queen. There was a thread awhile back where she tapped into the pseudohive signals and royally fucked up everything they were trying to build.
maan if you think we can't fucking make it to space you're absolutely retarded like I can't even try and formulate a real arguement because it's just fucking blatantly obvious that even if the moon landing etc were fake, we are still entirely fuckin capable of making it to space technologically