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I was thinking about reincarnation and figured that there's an obvious mathematical problem with it.
e.g. say there's 6billion people on earth currently, but in 50 years say there's only 4billion people. Do the souls just wonder around and fight for bodies to embody?
What happens when the world ends...where do all the souls go then? just fly around space?
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>>17247188
you dont just reincarnate into people. you can reincarnate into animals, insects, or even sperm cells. actually, being a sperm cell is a tye of hell in hinduism. Can you imagine just being constantly killed when the guy youre in ejaculates? truly sucks.

Also, you can be locked as a spirit for some time before you reincarnate.
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>>17247188
There's life in the air, life is everywhere.
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>>17247213
>insects.
So spirits have no conscious is what you're saying?
>>17247229
are you saying there's life on mars?
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One fundamental component many people don't realize is that there are souls ALL OVER the universe, and more and more of them are wandering their way over here, hence the population boom. Earth is like the newest, hippest club and town and shit's POPPIN' tonight.
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>>17247299
>fundamental component
>completely made up
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"we" (consciousnesses) reincarnate in whatever form of existence the Universe shapes. Be it a rock, be it a human, be it an alien, be it a Star.

WE are one infinite consciousness experiencing itself in all forms of existence. Learning on each step.
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>>17247340
so "consciousness" can be in a rock. Does that make a rock conscious?
quantum computers don't work when a conscious entity is in the room. But you're saying the floor is conscious?
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>>17247356
the atom is conscious. All that Is, IS conscious, but on different levels. That´s the logic behind reincarnation. XP. We are God experiencing itself, like Sagan said " we are the way for the cosmos to know itself." The rock isn´t conscious on our level, but on it+´s own. for the Atom that makes it, is conscious of his physical duty. and that´s a spec of consciousness. Then there are humans, then there are planets, then there are Stars, etc. As above so below.
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>>17247374
Consciousness has levels. Like we have on all factors of the know universe, time, gravity, dimensions, levels. The purpose of consciousness is to evolve through XP achieved in all forms of energy manifestation are possible in the infinite. We are experiencing it in this third density. We are a clump of living beings, for the bacteria in our gut, our second brain, have a level of consciousness of their own. But they makes us, and we make earth, the earth makes the universe and the universe is God.
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>>17247374
Rocks aren't "born" They've been around forever. How does a conscious in a rock move on to a higher life form?
Why do people think rocks are conscious in the first place?
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>>17247401
The problem is that you are stuck in framing conscious on what you perceives as living being. A rock is made by forces that shape it together considering the elements it has. A human is the same. But a higher form of physical and chemical arrangement. Time matter and energy made the right hardware for the software to be displayed. So we, this type of hardware, perceive consciousness in total different way of an atom. And sure a rock is a lifeless piece of "thing". but it´s ALIVE on it´s own 3rd dimensional perspective and it´s own existence. But it´s through the conscious laws of the molecules in "space" that all comes to be. be it a rock a planet or a human.

TO understand this you have to see consciousness as a frequency and all matter and energy their receptor and vehicles. In order for God to experience itself has a Human, he had to experience himself as rock first, That´s the conscious of the living universe, it´s happening everywhere and all the time. An infinite loop of creation and ascension.
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>>17247446
Well it's confusing if you use the word conscious but use it in a way it is not defined.
If you define it by frequency then everything is obviously conscious due to atoms.
I know this is a religion and im not asking for "proof" or evidence but it seems like they're making this up as they go.
>The problem is that you are stuck in framing conscious on what you perceives as living being.
No I'm framing it as "something that is aware of its surroundings"
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>>17247471

yes correct, but first comes the awareness of the SELF. Than the surroundings. YOu may look at a rock and think "ok that cant be conscious of itself" and guess what? YOu´re right. Because that is a rock in your neurological mind frame, but actually is a clump of matter stuck together. And those "clumps" those atoms, elements, chemicals etc are aware of their self and functioning and THEN react to their surroundings. Forming a rock, a planet, you, the Sun etc.

I understand when you "say" religion, but it isnt.. it´s awareness of the tiniest but gigantic details that makes us and yes our surroundings. It´s all matter and energy, shaped in different forms and states. YOu see yourself as one, when you are trillions of things. All that is is filled with "things" and those things are part of life. they all have consciousnesses. all that changes is the awareness.
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>>17247188
Who says you can't reincarnate into the past.
Time is only linear while we're in our meat suits.
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>>17247506
>Because that is a rock in your neurological mind frame, but actually is a clump of matter stuck together. And those "clumps" those atoms, elements, chemicals etc are aware of their self and functioning and THEN react to their surroundings. Forming a rock, a planet, you, the Sun etc.
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>>17247319
omg fucking shill GTFO
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You can be reincarnated in to any time peroid, time is nonlinear on higher dimensional planes. You could even be reincarnated as a contemporary or even a friend of your previous life's self.
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There isn't a finite limit to the number of souls because Consciousness is infinite.
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>>17247528
Best comment so far. Didn't even think about that. Thanks
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>>17247506
You defined consciousness as frequencies. So you're saying when you die you become a different frequency? That takes the whole spirit part out of it.
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>>17247720
No. It moves on until it chooses to be captured onto another receptor (human or other form).. Our brains are physical matter clumped together through evolution that allow the pick up of a higher level of frequency. See the brain as the receiver. The radio, and consciousness the radio wave. You are conceived, your brain clumps together and stars firing and it will be operational enough to capture the signal. Than you are born, and your body evolves alongside with the signal. The body dies. The signal moves one, until it is in tune with another receiver again. To Nirvana.
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>>17247287
Do individual neurons of your brain?
You are a conglomeration in the physical, why is spirit different?
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>>17247188
>>17247213
This. It's obvious that when the number of humans increase, the number of animals decrease.

Also reincarnation doesn't work like that. The whole universe goes into a cycle of rebirth. It always existed and will always exist, there's no start or end.

When you die you become the larvae that will be made from your brain cells. From the larvae to another animal that's made from the larvae cells and so on.

The energy, spirit, moves on. It doesn't float in space, just like the energy in your computer doesn't float around.

When earth dies, you and everyone else will be just motionless energy, until it gets used again by a new star or planet or on the next cycle of rebirth.

Of course it gets complicated if you believe in other planes of existence.

Like for example. An ant is not aware of the human world, because of it's "resolution" of the world. The ant lives in a plane below us. Just like the cell in your body, that is not aware of the body lives in an even below plane.
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>>17251468
It doesn't work at all. It's just a hypothesis.
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>>17247213
How did the Hindu know about the individual sperm in semen?
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>>17247287
>So spirits have no conscious is what you're saying?
That is correct your soul is not necessarily conscious at all times
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>>17247188

If you get recarnated to animals and humans, that might explain how humans are increasing in numbers while some animals speices are going extinct
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>>17251525

By taste.
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>>17247188
There are numerous possible explanations that can account for that. There could be an afterlife where the soul wanders before reincarnating (many spiritualists believe this), they could sleep through it until earth has more habitants, there might be new souls from time to time, spirits might time travel to future/past points, future worlds from after earth has died, alien worlds, animals, demon/angel/deva worlds...
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>>17251573
idiot.
>>17251525
divine intuition
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Read "The Egg" by Andy Wier.
That was a cool as fuck idea.
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>>17247701
Also don't assume that a soul would only be reincarnated on earth. The universe is a unfathomably large place
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>>17247188
>say there's 6billion people on earth currently, but in 50 years say there's only 4billion people. Do the souls just wonder around and fight for bodies to embody?
>What happens when the world ends...where do all the souls go then? just fly around space?

I see it from a mathematical perspective. If humans reproduce at an exponential level, then all these new souls, even if they're not ready to incarnate into a human life, will most probably do it, because hey, it's a human body, just look at how much you're capable of doing and experimenting in order to increase the quality of your consciousness. Free pizza right?

Now in the case when humans reproduce at a slow rate, and there's an excess of souls, then most probably the souls will incarnate into lesser beings, like animals, and reach humanhood after a long and filtering process
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>>17247188
When you die, you'll have the whole of eternity to find a new body. You haven't even begun to do the math.
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>>17247356
>quantum computers don't work when a conscious entity is in the room.
/sci/ here, this isn't just wrong, this statement is entirely groundless and poh retarded
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>>17255060
Try not to debate panpsychism; it's literally impossible for newage fuckwads to hear you.
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The world never and ever has an end..
The souls either..

Moment end it"s happen all the time..
Every moment has a chance to build or destroy something..
Decision we all make and-and that's change the arrows in our path..
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>>17247188
The reason it decreased because the ones who died became inhabitants of another world or this so called "aliens"...
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>>17247188
www.mybigtoe.com,or Tom cambell on youtube,may enlighten you.
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