What's up with Saturn? Is there any sense to all of this? Can one worship Saturn and if so, why?
Also, check out QuasiLuminous on youtube... he seems like a paranoid meth addict, but there is something about it that somehow makes sense. It's weird. It's all so weird. I find this whole thing rather creepy.
There's a whole bunch of disjointed shit about Saturn online which contradicts itself all time...
Some sources say he's Satan himself. Others say that all invisible forces hail from there (which is why allegedly many media outlets have it's rings in their logo), as it's southern hexagon is a portal. Another video said something like "Saturn's phonosphere incubated all life on Earth" hinting the planet is God himself this time. In astrology it is the amalgamation of evil and points to one's weaknesses. Then there's the even more batshit "ring builders" theory which I don't even know what the fuck is about. It's a sea of theories but the last one I can remember is that its hexagon is actually hollow; farther in the outline you can see a triangular shape and in the very bottom of there is a perfect eye-shaped hole (I know what this sounds like but I'm not even making this shit up I watched it on YouTube lmao), and this whole is supposedly the ever-watchful eye of god/satan or the illuminati eye.
It's a big clusterfuck of batshit insane stuff and I don't recommend you get farther into it
Saturn is Zues, not kronus. Kronus is a titan, father of the gods an Easter over time. If op wants to worship Zues just read up on Greek mythology from the internet, mostly getting high off incense and slaughtering goats
shut up weeb noone thinks you're creepy
Right, that's what I mean. It's confusing, and why is that? If one had the basic knowledge required it wouldn't be confusing, it would make sense either way one looked at it. Like the Freemasons, for example. It seems to all be a big mystery about WHY they are so evil, I mean really that's where most people stop listening, because it just doesn't make sense to "be evil" for the sake of being evil. So what I mean is basically, if one can just understand the ACTUAL meaning behind the symbolism, the whole conspiracy would be solved.
Now this is why I find Saturn to be very interesting, like the seal of Saturn apperantly is IXXI, which on a flat earth makes Masonic symbolism make PERFECT sense. Or at least it seems to. I don't know. I just really feel as though this means something.
Well, he is darker than the other planetary Gods. His deal is kinda death, time, fate. The entities belonging to the sphere of Saturn are mostly malevolent underworld entities.
He is also extremly powerful like all the planetary Gods, so you better don't dick around and be careful how you adress him
Saturn is the grandfather Kronus. The keeper of time. If you want to live long and have lots of material success, you ought to worship Saturn.
In our patriarchal society, Saturn is king. He is the strict father figure that brings hardships to his children in order to push them forward and make them strong. He is the one that ensures longevity. If you plan on accomplishing huge things in this material world, you must get Saturn's blessing.
To materialists like Jews, the Star of David which is actually a 2d cube, is for Saturn. Saturnday is their day of worship.
Christianity is a bit different. They worship the Sun or Jupiter, hence Sunday.
Saturn as Satan is just an archetype or metaphor to describe what kind of energies that Saturn brings. Christianity has twisted it around into a good v evil thing, but Saturn is necessary. Saturn brings growth, it brings the hard lessons in life. It's revolution is 30 years, and whenever it passes your chart, it brings with it some challenges, hence mid-life crisis. It decides whether you live or die.
Saturn is exalted during the winter solstice, the evening of the year. This is when we celebrate Saturnalia (Christmas, ironically). Saturnalia was originally meant to celebrate the harvest. Around this time crops have been harvested. The farming season is over and nothing grows, but there is a surplus of food and wine so people celebrate.
Saturn spinning: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia09187.html
Muslims walking around the Kabba: pic related
Also compare the meteorite belt around saturn.
>Saturn brings growth, it brings the hard lessons in life. It's revolution is 30 years, and whenever it passes your chart, it brings with it some challenges, hence mid-life crisis. It decides whether you live or die.
it's interesting that historically speaking gotama buddha left his home at age 29 to live as a wandering ascetic striving for nirvana. his saturn's return must've began around age 27 and by 29 he could no longer fulfill his worldly role as husband, father, inheritor of his father's duties, etc.
for me, my saturn's return began in december 2014 and since then i've been experiencing a sort of editing of my life, removing certain things and people, getting more into other things. my spiritual path has become clear but intimidating.
i've also experienced a certain 'coming down' to a more rational, realistic, logical way of seeing things than in my early 20s when i operated using almost schizophrenic-like thinking. it feels like i'm being steadily emptied out of everything i thought i had or knew, leaving me as an empty shell cut off from ordinary life and people.
i would have never bought into any astrology stuff but the saturn's return is too obvious to deny, i see its effects in my friends of the same age. in fact, i have two close friends and ours began at the exact same time, and since that time we've split farther and farther from each other after a decade of closeness. it's very weird.
discussing the relation of saturn to islam, it would be pertinent to note that muhammad did NOT originate the practice of going on hajj or pilgrimage to mecca and circulating the kaba. whatever it is, however esoteric and deep down the rabbit hole the explanation of its origins is, it was only a custom that muhammad chose to keep. it pre-exists muhammad.
i am aware of that. in the literature regarding islam, it is said that abraham (or ishmael) founded the kabba centuries before muhammad
abraham also sounds very similart to brahma.
i'm just thinking that all these religions are just the way ancients communicated us about space
Yeah, none of that shit actually has anything to do with Saturn worship in ancient times. Saturn was a god of agriculture. Time and the seasons have a lot to do with agriculture. The scythe is an agricultural tool.
Muslims are a mix. They have the Crescent flag with the star which is the symbol for Venus, and they have a holy day on Friday which is Freya's day or Venus'day. In Latin, it's Viernes.
Islam originated from Judaism and so it inherited its black cube and sabbath day as well which remains in both religions as the symbol for God.
Christianity inherited both the cube along with the Sun. So they have both God the Sun and the Devil Saturn. It's turned into this weird good and evil polarity. The Christians have their Sunday and a Black Saturday. Easter, which is the main holiday of Christians (really) is the sunrise of the year, following Black Saturday (representative of winter, the time Jesus was dead).
I think that long ago, these religions were once mystery schools coming from Egypt. In those times, they must have had a complete astrological system in which all planets were represented. Today, much of that knowledge has been lost, and these religions have been reduced to dogma and supersitition. Still, those complete systems still exist as the mystic sects of these Abrahamic religions. The Qabbalists, the Sufis, and the Gnostics.
>the influence of the Saturn return is considered to start in the person's late twenties, notably the age of 27.
>Psychologically, the first Saturn return is seen as the time of reaching full adulthood, and being faced, perhaps for the first time, with adult challenges and responsibilities.
>I turned 27 on the 9th
>Signed papers for my first house on the 11th
Jesus was also 30ish around the time of his teaching and death.
>it feels like i'm being steadily emptied out of everything i thought i had or knew, leaving me as an empty shell cut off from ordinary life and people.
Good. Yes, this is what Saturn's energy is all about. Death and renewal.
When looking at astrology, Saturn perhaps has one of the most obvious energies, and you can see this from the pattern of Saturn's revolution in someone's chart, which is around the age at which they will experience significant life events.
If you look at where Saturn is on your birth chart, you can use it to tell what your most challenging aspects are going to be. Same goes for Pluto. Pluto is actually an aspect of Saturn. It is the underbelly of humanity, or the deep subconscious.
Pluto came into humanities awareness in the 1930s which was just at the cusp of one great war before and another after. This is the time when humanity was becoming aware of its own deep subconscious and bringing it up to the surface to be dealt with. A kind of death took place for humanity in this time and a rebirth as well.
saturns not real.
however once i had a pretty heavy drug-induced vision where it would seem to me that our whole construct of the concave innerverse is all 'wrapped' up in a cube.
>I think that long ago, these religions were once mystery schools coming from Egypt. In those times, they must have had a complete astrological system in which all planets were represented. Today, much of that knowledge has been lost, and these religions have been reduced to dogma and supersitition.
Also, this is very interesting. I saw a documentary about Ancient Egyptians and how the Sphinx was actually a sort of clock that they built to tell us the next stage in the universe. Fascinating stuff.
Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcKahraBiBY
Maybe if you want to stretch it that far. The Qabbalists may have taken some remnants of the Egyptian school with them over the years, but Christianity seems more infused with Greek mysticism. Greek mysticism sometimes -wishes- it was Egyptian, but I don't see a real connection there.
Imho, Gnostic Christians are Greek + Qabbalist, the conflict between the two is evident in the early history of the Church (see: Paul). If gnostics inherited any Egyptian traditions, it was totally by accident courtesy of the Qabbalists.
I'll cop to knowing nothing about Sufism, thanks for the information.
>Christianity seems more infused with Greek mysticism.
Perhaps. I thought Greek mysticism came from Egypt. I think it was Hermes Trismegistus from Ancient Greece the founder of Hermeticism is recognized as the Egyptian Thoth. There is also Pythagoras who is rumored to have learned from the remnants of the Egyptian mystery schools. They all seem interrelated to me somehow.
It is very interesting stuff to speculate about.
Thanks for the video! I'm gonna check it out.
How can i fasten this process up? Im 20, and feel like im allready in my midlife crisis, i doubt on life, humanity, civilication, etc.
I don't want to wait till 30 like buddha, or Eckhart tolle, and live a shit life till then.
So how does one go about getting Saturn's blessing? Also, what's the main differences of Saturn and Jupiter? There's a casino in Australia named Jupiter's Casino, which makes me think Jupiter is also associated with wealth. And there's a MAJOR electronics store in Germany called Saturn. How would you explain this based on your knowledge?
This is a little funny, just the day before yesterday while researching Saturn I noticed this (pic related). It turns out I was drinking Saturns nectar (perhaps)! Note the spinning ball lemon/lime planetary reference, as well as the hexagon surrounding the whole logo! Coincidence? Maybe, but still intriguing.
Trust me, it all leads to Satan. All of it. The longer you think about it, the harder you look at the shit you pass by every day, you'll start to see. Just let go of your ego, cast aside everything you thought you were certain of, and put yourself in the hands of Jesus.
I'll throw you a bone. If you don't know what CERN is, you're too far gone. For those of you who do know, take a look at what a CERN official said when asked why they were conducting tests with the Large Hadron Collider: "One answer is what we tell people. The other answer is the truth."
John 8:32 - "And you will know the Truth. And the Truth shall set you free."
Kronos is banished to oblivion by forever being our planets core, a living primordial being the weight of the world forever crushing down on him. Earthquakes and volcanos are the ripples that radiate outward as he thrashes in endless rage
The central point to that saturn anomaly is actually a three dimensional shadow of a 4 dimensional wormhole the lizard people use to send our collected souls back to their queen
These are all false matrixes, for those of you who believe "Saturn rules all" and the "sun is god" and "the phases of the moon dictate my reality" and "my horoscope says"
They are all false reasonings to fool us
It's meaningless. Consider it part of operation mindfuck. it's a labyrinth of syncretic myths and NASA hoaxes to divert minds.
It's compelling because of the Saturn/Kronos/Time association, and 'Saturn eating his son' is a vivid imagining of birth and death, as it must have been thousands of years ago.
The Jew black box hat, with the little scripture inside it, isn't known to them as 'Saturnic' or whatever. It is something ancient Jewish vagrants would carry round to make money. They would wear the box hat, crouch down and have a friend cover them up in a black cloak, so they would be mistaken for a small endtable with a donation box. They might do this in a mosque or a charity house, they did not care.
As for the statues, well, you could see a statue of Jupiter that looks striking and godlike, but it doesn't make him real. In my opinion it's just more disinfo, based on occultism and mythology.
There are too many coincidences regarding the cube and saturn and since coincidences do not exist...
Anyway isn't the human race definition of irony? Among thousands of other stuff we do we actually kill each other over religion while those same religions have same root. Beautiful.