>>17233133 Illuminists are everywhere. We exist in every country on the globe, just because there is a need for that kind of person everywhere. Sometimes we pretend to be other things, like Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, or something else. Our true faith is not a faith at all, but a collection of insights from all knowledge. We aren't spooky at all, unless you want to hold humanity back. Then I guess we are really scary.
My question is why would a secret new world order let/ give a shit if their symbolism is strewn across the world on every conceivable medium? Everyone on this board has played a practical joke on someone with the intention of spooping them at some point in their adult life. Artists and crew members get sophmoric urges too. If yall spent half the time looking into actual evidence (paper trails, government patents, corperation ownership chains etc) as you do staring at shit looking for triangles and eye balls you wouldnt have to go asking questions on a board filled with RP faggots.
>>17233493 There is no real answer to this question. It's mostly irrational that makes the Illuminati sound like retards
>they think karma is real and this gives them karma points >seeing a bunch of eyeballs will make people more willing to accept the Illuminati when they reveal themselves >the Illuminati hides messages in children's cartoons so they can recruit the brilliant minds that manage to decode their meaning
>>17234798 To put it in loose terms "spiritual development" is what is being kept from the masses.
>>17236509 The reason you think so is because you've constructed a worldview of that kind. I have no such ideas. I am not a Gnostic like you mean, but a Naastik in the Sanatana Dharma tradition. I reject the Vedas and hold to an ideology that ignores their ideas or teachings like them. Buddhists are similar, along with the Shramana. India has a lot of influence, like the Hebrew and Christian traditions. Most Gnostics are pigeonholed into certain dogmas, which isn't me.
I think spooky more in terms of deaths and shady decision making versus paranormal. I do have some family that work in the park and told them some of the stories from the other thread. Some of it they can confirm. Regardless anyone still interested in an /x/ meet up at disney? would be fun trying to spoops
>>17238312 Castmember actually told us early on that they had run out of "real" ones i.e. ones they trusted. Also they "came back" but under "casemember" before correcting themselves. Prior to that they seemed sane if overly imaginative, after that the story got fishy and they kept wringing their hands about being "in trouble" and sounded panicked. Said "fuck it I am in too deep." Then they came back today, and "signed" off by claiming to be considered a "stain" and they were going to "hang" because they "told the truth." Knew a lot of things that seemed legit about the company though.
As for spooky disney the only thing spooky I found was the clown show. Made dumbass jokes about banana disposal squads and were clowns.
>>17238903 It's a giant Masonic prayer wheel, and the lands are all based on stages of enlightenment. Adventure is risk, Frontierland is facing death, Liberty square is freedom, Fantasyland is the temptation to worldly pleasures, Tomorrowland is The act of moving forward.
Disney has a habit of not tearing things down and putting their construction projects on indefinite hiatus. See picture of one such project, which was visible from pop century resorts for the longest time.
>>17239029 On that topic has anyone here tried to use someone else's pass and got in? It doesn't seem plausible that they would keep a database of prints and seems more likely to be used as a deterrent from pass sharing but then again it is disney so it wouldn't be shocking
>>17239158 From what I remember of the tech it's like each card gets a new "visit" i.d. that's put in an individual folder that gets connected to the bands and cards and your profile on the website if you want to. Once you leave the folder gets deleted and the card becomes inert. If the card gets lost you can ask for a "new" folder and the old one gets dumped. With bands you can put the band onto the different folder and dump the old one.
>>17239244 Not once the finger has been assigned and the date of the end of the trip has passed. Now if you have similar finger outlines they can fake it, but generally people differ enough for this to work.
>>17234453 I'm old and Gravity Falls is the only thing that was made in the last decade I'd actually watch by myself on Disney. My old lady, her niece and nephews love Disney movies but I think computer animation has ruined their movies.
>>17239350 Disney is a cornerstone of pop culture, and it has always been dedicated to giving off a whimsical and innocent vibe for children. It's easy to get reactions by contrasting those sentiments with morbid stories like Walt being a nazi and rides being built on foundations of sacrificed babies and shit like that
>>17239376 >Walt also had a well documented association with a known anti-Semitic group the MPAPI. Mr. Disney was a member of theMotion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Idealsuntil the 1950’s. TheMPAPAIwas an anti-communist, anti-fascist, and Anti-Semitic organization.
>>17239397 Lee Thompson committed suicide and then there's more well known stars like Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato (think she slit her wrists or something), or Shia who went kinda nuts after their disney stints. Maybe its mostly millennials, but if you look at more of the well known shows from 90's-00's the majority of the actors have some kind of arrest under their belt.
>>17239397 Brittany Spears went cooky and Miley Cryus seems to be slutting it up nowadays. Could just be a child actor thing but I'm sure Disney is a well oiled machine nowadays and turns them into pop singers.
>>17239366 Oh no, there's plenty of spoopy about that incident. Like her credit card being used years later in the Middle East or how there is video of her getting distressed on the phone of that morning and Disney has the phonecall recorded but haven't ever handed it over to the police or how Disney has CCTV recordings of the spot they claim she went overboard and haven't ever handed them to police or government officials.
There is more than meets the eye with that case and Disney certainly knows more than they are letting on.
>>17240196 I wonder what she meant when she said things change and about people hacking into the face code of the pic? did that mean she wasn't supposed to be there? I wish she'd post one last time, or bear would post to give us some closure.
>>17240210 I honestly have no clue. I'm not much into hacking or photo data retrieval, but I have a 2 year plan to move to Florida and investigate on my own. Pictures, with best efforts to keep any info off of them and all. Wish me luck while I save money and learn what they want in a cast member.
>>17239916 a lot of the shit CM posted was spooky. People just got pissed because some of it towards the end seemed fabricated. Regardless still some of the best /x/ threads.
Has anyone taken the Keys to the Kingdom tour? They take you down the utilidors. I'm sure there might be a few older areas you can sneak a glimpse at them from little sections of the more updated area they tour you around.
>>17240303 Another castmember here. I posted in the first thread about the Haunted Mansion. Some of the stuff she said was pretty true. But towards the end when Bear started coming up it was getting fishy.
I'll have to look at the second thread, but, I can try looking up things at Disney for you guys when I have time.
>>17240378 Alright third castmember here, frontierland, I think I know who bear is.. and no I am not going to out him because if cast member is who I think she is then I believe she went down there. I was working that day and saw her go on to the island at least once on her own. Read the second thread, and with it in mind that she reached an "end " to the real stories after a while, I say she went down there and got lost. Considering the way she was posting she might have gotten hurt, it's easy to slam into things down there at head height.
Most of the stories after she admits she doesn't trust them start straying into urban legend territory, and after she gets lost she seems out of it.
I can only tell you frontierland really as that's my primary location, and I have only had one. I work splash Mountain like possible bear and I can confirm there is a cast members ghost near the big drop. Saw her on a walk through once, walking up ahead of me, I went to catch up, rounded a corner and she was gone. There was really nowhere for a flesh and bone person to have vanished to so it's weird. My other ride, Thunder Mountain, is said to be spooked but I don't particularly believe it, nor have I seen anything. Otherwise I hear the rumors just like every other cast member.
It's more the rules and weird little quirks of working at disney that can be creepy. Lots of things are controlled when you work at disney, and its weird how carefully we watch our Guests. For instance we know per hour within a margin of one or two, how many people have been on a ride due to sensors in the ride lines, and those are backed up by cameras that count faces. It's for quality purposes but still.
Once a guy jumped on to the Tracks of Thunder Mountain, lost our security in the crowd, changed shirts and still got caught and kicked out. You can't pick your knows without uncle walt knowing
Checked around. Possible bear is apparently out, but I am not allowed to ask specifics really. He might be in tomorrow.
>>17244543 I will check tomorrow . The one's from T.T. I will have to ask food service, the knocking ghost is one I have heard from Janitors, and George/billy is true. Tom's Island and shadows moving I will have to ask about as well as I tend to be morning shifts. I will I guess ask around, but I don't know half the people Cm did. If Cm is who I think it is it doesn't surprise me she could reach so many people. She is if nothing a good networker.
Yeah we do. It's not everyone, it's not even 80% of people, but those 20% stick with you. Long hours, unable to sit, in the hot sun, short and constantly shifting breaks, low pay, and then people just don't give us any respect. See Most Guest check their brains when they check into the hotel room. To them disney is some magical place where nothing can hurt you, and we are just there to ruin their fun. I have some horror stories on that front if you want. I have been spit at, screamed at, pushed past, smacked in the face, elbowed in the face, run over, and insulted. Disney expects you to smile through it all, and though there is recourse it is rarely satisfying.
>>17238362 Not sure if she was roleplaying, but there clearly was a laptop in one of the pics. Maybe she just wanted to make it look more spooky than it was. I'm sure Disney is aware that the employees are gossiping and she revealed quite some details about herself and her boyfriend, but I'm not sure if she'd get fired over this.
>>17233493 >My question is why would a secret new world order let/ give a shit if their symbolism is strewn across the world on every conceivable medium? Everyone on this board has played a practical joke on someone with the intention of spooping them at some point in their adult life. Artists and crew members get sophmoric urges too. If yall spent half the time looking into actual evidence (paper trails, government patents, corperation ownership chains etc) as you do staring at shit looking for triangles and eye balls you wouldnt have to go asking questions on a board filled with RP faggots.
Because they think it's delicious irony.
Watching people know, and being powerless to change anything.
>>17245881 Likely this, or she got confused which pictures she was putting up. Possible Cm is flaky and into the Show aspect of disney but if bear puts up with her, not a liar. He is notoriously bad with liars when he coordinates frontierland. He will take no shit and will write them up, so I doubt he would take it in the bedroom. I will say again the posting is erratic after her trip down, so I have a theory about her confusion.
I am confident if it's her she went down there, got lost and found the room. Pictures? I will say this: Disney coms has demanded photo swaps from sites greater than 4 chan and gotten it. Not sure if that's possible with this format though, and so I am going to not touch it until I know more. >>17244727 >>17244934
Alright let's see.
I work thunder, splash and could for a while pick up what is called "P.A.C" shifts. That means I kept people from trying to take pictures of themselves getting run over. It's a fairly simple job but the guest tend to see you as mini security so they don't always like you.
I especially hate the spanish ladies. They spit on me constantly. Doesn't matter what country they come from if it's not the u.s. and I piss them off my face is going to come out wet. I had one woman have a calm civil perfect english conversation with me about why she could not park her 16+ family in the middle of the fucking street. She told them to move and when I walked them over there and sat down she got angry that now she couldn't see the damned fireworks front on. When I patiently explained that the fireworks were 3 dimensional and as long as there weren't trees in the way if she looked up and moved her head around it would work, she spat, as did like five of her family, right onto my vest. When I took it off that night I found out the lady, or one of her relatives, apparently had a cold and had hocked a loogie at my back.
I need to get to work but I will be back later and will check in on breaks. Questions welcomed.
The illuminatis are a fucking meme and you fucks are falling for it. Why would a top sekrit club that is supposedly everywhere would bother making tiny references to entry-level symbolism everywhere? Ah yeah to illuminate people ? That's ridiculous. These pics are most likely shopped anyway. Finding shits only because you desperatly want to
>I can only tell you frontierland really as that's my primary location, and I have only had one. I work splash Mountain like possible bear and I can confirm there is a cast members ghost near the big drop. Saw her on a walk through once
>>17239376 Yeah, except when it comes to things that people in the business are actually engaged in . . . Disney psy-ops children and the majority of people either turn a blind-eye or don't know what to say about it because of the woo-woo factor. I wonder how soon it will be expressed out of the psychic body like the tick it is.
yo, i've been lurking here for the past couple hours, and the cm who's been answering questions above me inspired me to give it a go on my end.
i was a cast member at disneyland in california from august to the beginning of january. i was doing the college program, which is a paid internship college kids can enroll in where they move to anaheim, live in disney housing and work at the park for school credits. i didn't really see a lot of spoopy stuff in my time there, but i do have a lot of guest stories and the like. that and i went into the program with an /x/ mindset (my entire family is super into the paranormal, it's been a thing with us ever since i was a kid) expecting to see and hear shit, so i kept my mind open enough to do stuff and ask questions other cms wouldn't.
>>17247360 in the meantime, here's a couple of things on my end to get the ball rolling.
>the two most haunted areas in disneyland are apparently frontiersland and new orleans square, specifically the rivers of america which people say that they've seen "things" on >there's a rumor that the opera house aka great moments with mr. lincoln is haunted, but everyone else save for the one cast member who told me as much says that's bullshit >people can and do dump cremated ashes in the park. the two places where this happens the most are at the haunted mansion and pirates of the caribbean. i have one story about this from a custodial cast member that has some occult significance (i.e. someone might have dumped ashes for a ritual or some shit at the rides) if anyone wants me to share it. >the monorail station at downtown disney is supposedly haunted. >the part of pacific wharf in california adventure where mickey's fun wheel and screamin' are is supposedly haunted by the spirit of a little girl who was killed in a car accident back when the park was still a parking lot, and some cast members say that they can hear her screams when the park closes and no one else is around >going back to the haunted mansion, there is a well circulated legend that it's haunted by the ghost of a little boy named timmy or tommy who likes to prank cast members >on that note, one of the stores in adventureland is also supposedly haunted by a little kid ghost who likes to throw clothes and unfold them even after cast members organize and fold them >there have been multiple deaths in the park. go on wikipedia if you want the big details, but the ones i heard the most about were stories about how a teen died in the rivers of america trying to save his brother who was drowning, and the story of a cast member who got crushed between the walls of a ride in tomorrowland (idk if it was america sings or the carousal of progress)
there's more, but that's just to get you guys started.
>>17247226 This one uses less commas, disimilar patterns of typing with shorter sentances but they use the same lingo and focus on people. Probably comes from both Working in a people focused industry but being different in gender? Current anon/Cm is probably male of the gay persuasion
>>17246207 Working at a small amusement park in PA, I feel you on the whole "shitty guests" thing. At least my park will actually back us up more often than not if our manager knows that we're trustworthy (even though just about everything else is pretty shit).
>>17249098 She does look close to tears. Even her eyes look slightly red like she had been crying. This photo really bothers me. When Amanda Bynes came out saying her dad molested her and then retracted that statement, I'm surprised she didn't say anything about this guy, too. I remember her saying in the opening of her show, "LOVE YA DAN!"
>>17247421 Interesting stuff, I had my doubts about some stuff but a lot of this matches up with the wiki page and what the other cast members have been saying. As for a question for you, what would you say is the most paranormal thing you've ever experienced working at Disney? Like have you had any actual sightings or interactions with ghosts/spirits/whatever?
>>17249191 I like to think that the reason these people end up being fucked in the head is simply possesive parents forcing kids to exchange their childhoods for fame combined with children with a vast fortune and no boundaries, sort of like Jackson.
The thought of a vast child abuse sex racket above the law due to vast wealth and power terrifies me.
>>17249092 Cmfag back from work, before I turn in : Bear is actually a common enough call sign with in frontierland. It's whoever is on the Jamboree, with different numbers/ names for different positions or areas being worked on the ride. It's not that big a risk that he will be caught, nor that they will care as he wasn't posting.
>>17240187 Now this i believe. I worked for the Mouse and they would fire your ass for misrepresenting them on the tubes. Seen it happen. Don't try to tell your stupid friends what you heard we might build in a few years.
>>17240645 Sorry, I'm being worked like crazy right now. I've been coming on /x/ at like 2 am every day and I'm always too tired to write up a response. But here's a weird story from not too far back. Maybe 2 years? It was either during the marathons or during the Food and Wine Festival at Epcot.
There's a boat that guests can take from Disney's Boardwalk to Epcot and vice versa. I was working one of my shifts (confirm here that I work at Epcot), and then I hear a bunch of fuss from my managers pretty close to park closing time. (9 pm). Apparently a guest jumped overboard the boat as it was going into Epcot.
Que a ton of helicopters, security going crazy looking, and the result was nothing. Nobody was ever found and then I heard it was just a fake rumor. But the helicopters and security searches definitely happened that night.
Not sure if this counts as spooky or not but here's my story. I went to Disneyland with my husband this past November and we were riding the train that takes you around the park that evening. We just passed the part in critter country after you go through a bit of splash mountain and over the winnie the poo ride. You can see Rivers of America there and the area people pass when canoeing. I spotted a canoe out there, not realizing that they ran when it was dark out with only two smallish people on it. I didn't give much thought to it other then I would like to backtrack to go on them being an avid canoer until I struck up a conversation with one of the cm's on the train. We were talking about different things in the park, and I asked her how much later the canoes would be opened? She told me they closed them for the day over two hours ago. I casually asked her if they often patrol that area and she said they have some security cams and have a boat go out before Fantasmic, which was still a few hours away. I didn't mention the people I saw to her. After reading the past threads about those two boys drowning, my mind goes back to seeing that canoe and I wonder if I saw them.Generally, I'm a fairly rational person though, so they could've also just been some cm's.
Walt designed the perfect area to entrap souls, but also to keep people's minds completely open to the "magic" of seeing them; both unintentional side effects of wanting to create a completely immersive fantasy.
I will. But I feel that the amount I have posted isn't going to pin point me.
Last night I ran into a Guest that decided they were going to start ranting about the price of popcorn as they waited for their kids to get off my ride. Nothing I haven't heard before. This guy though decided to blame me, and gave me a 15 minute long rant about how my high wages were killing the accesiblity of Disney.
My high wages. The ones that cannot afford me a car so I have to take a 3 hour bus ride every night with stops in the gang areas of orlando.
>>17249108 you know tupac had an interview, not well known but existent, where he states that the whole killuminati is bullshit , that who gives a fuck whos face is on the money go get it anyways, that he heard about it in prison and that even he says its ridiculous the amount of people that talk about a seemingly "secret" organization that everyone knows about.
>>17239388 >crazy how child stars who peaked at a young age go crazy You think you'd be able to handle going downhill the rest of your life after having an unrealistic childhood? Going from something to nothing hurts anyone and everyone >not paranormal
>>17251311 I might as well just post my SS if I was planning to do that.
I got in touch with possible Bear. He confirmed that possible Cm was in the park that day since she was going to drive him home. I couldn't get much more out of him, he didn't really seem to want to talk about her.
I also talked to some of the girls from Pecos Bills they confirm a presence watching them and even sightings of Beth. They might have been teasing me though as the group I talked to knows me. Still they didn't seem dismissive of her, just joking if I wanted to know how to get her to sleep with me.
Nothing back on the other things either. Sorry about the weird post times. I need sleep.
>>17249331 That's some spooky stuff man. One thing that always stands out to me is most of these alleged child abuse/sex rings involve the CIA. I can sort of understand why mkultra was a thing, I disagree with it but being able to mind control people would have some perks for intelligence work but trafficking kids? All I could see is blackmail or funding, but I'm pretty sure they get a shit ton through the dug trade
>>17249098 >>17249122 >Miranda Cosgrove "icarly" >highest paid female child star of all time >highest paid child star under the age of 18 (2008 & 2009) >highest paid Nickelodeon star >highest paid non-basic cable actor (2009, 2010) >She was paid $180,000 per episode when she was sixteen.
I heard he was totally obsessed with her since she was really young, doing very kinky shit with her feet, crazy lips and so. But don't feel sorry for Miranda; she sold well her body and soul. $180.000 per episode? Really? Who the fuck pays that much for an escort which is available all the time for sex?
>>17255243 Too much drink, drugs and parties, I suppose. There are a lot of rumors about her crazyness at her college (USC) frat parties, with plenty of coke/molly fueled orgies and gangbangs. Dirty Dan fucked her up her sexual life probably.
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