God abandoned us long time ago we were a failed experimet of him. He wanted to see what would happend if he created intelligent life. There are only angels and demons, God killed himself and his opposite part did it too.
I like to think it's all about poetic artistry. Possibly created by advanced life forms, perhaps something more akin to incorporeal entities far removed from what we could understand as their level of evolutionary sophistication far exceeds that of our own, so they make universes for fun or artistic enjoyment. Maybe something like the Annunaki God's no one can say for certain.
It makes logical sense that the universe has always existed as it seems more improbable that it would spontaneously be created, although I do not rule it out.
I like to look at the universe like a fractal, as these mathematical representation are most suitable for understanding it's scale in-variance. The universal set has no beginning or end just like the ouraborus, our universe 'appears' at some point in the set but it is a mirror projection of some other mathematical part.
Plato believed everything in the cosmos was an imperfect reflection of pure and perfect mathematical forms, that may be the case. We the universe may be the only true mathematical form in existence, and from this perfect expression all other happenings may arise.
The universe may be a conscious, subconscious or unconscious state within the mind of all encompassing consciousness, i.e 'God', it is apparent to me from my perspective that humans are in the middle of it all and this universe seems very much perfect to me, I say this because it is a mystery and at the same time we are able to intuit certain aspects of the world around us but not entirely as that would render our lives meaningless.
>>17219984 I don't think we will ever understand it. Our minds aren't big/smart/whatever enough to comprehend the miracle that is life. And I don't mean it that in a religious way. I mean, existence must have something to do with time and energy and something, but I don't know man, I don't think we'll ever know.
God creates us. We live and learn The Evil restart life from a clean slate The Good become part of a singularity Once all have experienced and learned and made good choices in life the singularity Becomes a new god. That how Gods reproduce from conscious singularities. The new god Eats the old god The universe dies The New god creates his own Universe And reproduction restarts again
I think once we die we get like a progress report done on us-- hmmm says here anon that you went to earth to learnto be giving and helpful.... But you spent your time banging hookers and shooting pigs. Where do you think you went wrong?
It's probably just a game between good and evil how ever the fuck you want totview them to see who gets tired of this place and fucking offs themselves,or who dies in prison,or even who believes in a prophet that has to get his dick wet with a 9 year old girl. Who knows.
Most likely we are part of a massive simulated computer program where human life and earth run independently of the original simulation program. If technology develops quickly enough like philosophers like Nick Bostrom had hypothesized we may be living within a highly evolved extra terrestrials iPhone app. Time itself may even be a simulation so thousands or millions of virtual universes could be created and destroyed within seconds. Outside of the simulation time would be moving normally but inside the simulation time would be passing incredibly quickly in comparison to the outside world. The life forms living within the massive simulated computer program would be unaware of their origin probably assuming their universe was created by a creation event like the big bang. ay lmao
>>17221253 We can never leave----- see that's what bothers me, if we did have a secret space program that has colonized other planets we wouldn't have an overpopulation problem cus honestly if given the chose between staying here or leaving for a new planet, a lot of people would leave.... I would
>>17219984 Meteorite harboring microbes lands on earth after millions of years in space, which evolve into earth life stuff. We can from elsewhere in the galaxy. Panspermia. Of course this is life, not "existence", which i think is bs chemical self awareness.
>what is everything I don't think the human categorical process of thought (homo sapiens, genus homo, primate, mammal, vertebrate) can be applied to everything.
I think it's a "bug" in the system that we have a word or a concept meaning "everything". It's like the part of our retina where the optic nerve attaches and makes the "blind spot" - our mind fills in the blind spot where the optic nerve attaches, and it fills in where "the universe" attaches to our cognitive process of thought as well.
so while we have some made-up content in that blind spot of our eye, where our brain conjures up something which fits the surroundings - so our brain conjures up the sense that we're talking about something when we say "everything" even though we know logically "everything" can't possibly be "something".
and just like the blind spot hardly affects our vision at all, having this false category of "everything" (existence, the universe, life etc.) doesn't affect our ability to hunt, mate, etc.
>>17223885 Then I'll just kill myself again Only difference will be I won't wait as long I'll do it over and over again until the time between existing and dying is instantaneous And there will be nothing left at all
>>17219984 It's hard to believe we evolved like this but the evidence does look that way. But then it's easy to believe something created us but that theory was created in the mind of humans, so it's obviously biased. Just look at how many gods there are.
Will our consciousness reform also if given infinite time and combinations so we would remember everything from this age but will be living in totally different one ,like billions of years away in future from moment of our death?
>>17219984 I think our fate is pretty much the same as animals. We just try to survive as long as possible. After we die, i think we will just wake up like from a dream. Endless dream from your head. If you believed in jebus and shit, you go to heaven or hell. Depends on your religion. But if you don't believe in anything you just live normal life again. In circles.
I don't have one. The biggest thing for me has been discovering that all scripture/mythology really has the same punchline, regardless of when or from where within human history you cherry-pick it. We are all humans feeling the same wants, fearing the same fears, painting our own masks over our unknowns and dramatizing our deepest concerns with stories. It's all the same thing, picking pretend holes through the wall of unknowablility. Humans- gotta love us
>>17219984 Life and thinking is the consecuence of the configuration of earth and solar system and the conditions on them There is no deep meaning or purpose in life, you are here because your parents fucked time ago.
Human race acts allways for a reason, we have objetives, and when we look at the universe we judge it from the human point of view, searching for an objetive or reason but there is no meaning, things just happen.
I heard many times the phrase "everything happens for something" what I think is "everything happens for nothing"
For all we know we have been looking at the universe wrong the whole time and it in itself is a god without conscience. We could just be a way for the universe to experience itself but not realize it. Much like how your cells don't realize they are part of a larger being that technically isn't conscious but an amalgamation of cell reactions that perceives itself as conscious.
>>17219984 In the begining everything was condensed in one point. The time, the matter, all the informations that exists. Within one point was the begining and the end of the universe. We are just like a wool ball that is derolled. Like a movie on a screen. We are as important as a sun or the universe itself since we are part of the whole. Without me the universe can't exists.
>>17219984 Universe is one of many universes that bleed into one another at the edges, triggering the start of new universes, there is no beginning or end and there's other dimensions and stuff. We're one of many intelligent races but likely will never connect with any others due to the distances between us and technological limitations as well as our own vanity that will likely lead to our deaths. Is there an afterlife? Not a conscious one, no. You are born and will return to the state you were in before you were born when you die; non existence. Is there an ultimate goal or plan? Nope, it's subjective so make your own. Does any of this matter? Nah, it's enough to say "dayumn nature u scary" and continue living your trivial lives. You don't need to waste time wondering about stuff that only the truly gifted can explore with technology that hasn't been invented yet.
Who needs theory? I am breathing. Just like I breath, I need to eat. Just as I eat to continue my breath, the breathing of something else stops. It has been this way since the beginning of life, and it has been spiraling like memes out of /b/ to the rest of the world.
The easiest way to fill a circle is a spiral. The easisiest way to entertain a child is to play a game. One where there are winners and losers, one where the passage of time is different and it seems to take place in a different world.
This is that game, and even if you get tagged by "It" to play the role, you are not it, It is the concept of the game that all the kids are playing. You are a role-player, not GOD, but the game is more fun when everyone plays fair. Though of course we all have different abilities depending how long we've been playing. If new kids show up, they might even change the game, or so they think. Turn tag into freeze tag, but it's still all just a game of tag.
>>17228117 >I can't be the only one that doesn't really care whether it's all a dream/simulation or not right? I mean..Im starting to believe it and its making me more and more frustrated because I feel like Im the only one stuck with my current situations in life.
>>17219984 Everything that isn't us or what we create is God. When we die we retun to IT and become one with IT, feeling EVERYTHING and EVERYONE that has left and then returned. At this point we literally lose our conciousness and sense of self and become one with the collective. But then, after a while, out conciousness start to reform from the huge expense that is creation, until we all return to a new self and are reborn. This is extremely hard process.
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