Seen this myself earlier. Some really fucked up things that those kids came out with And I hope they aren't true but I genuinely wouldn't be surprised considering all the bullshit going on now about the paedophile ring in thatchers government. Real fucked up shit and I hope I don't hear any more accounts of this
>Satanic Ritual Abuse
And so the shilling begins. . .
We've been over all these.
For those who missed the last thread; OP (or some anon) tried over and over to convince that all of his links somehow proved SRA is going on.
Literally all of them except for Seville (who we already know about) were nothing Satanic. The only ritual abuse ones were Egyptian in occult sense and the Muslim rape cases.
He then tried saying Egyptian stuff is Satanic which didn't work because we have real occultists here who know their shit.
Then when all else failed he just started calling everyone "filthy kikes".
It's most likely Pet3r since he's already spamming the same pics over and over.
Oh and Pet3r also tried pretending like he was someone else recently (called his own trip "a random tripfag") and got caught red handed lying and samefagging. The archive of that thread can be found here
And here's the last thread on SRA
Feel feel to read and see how not only was OP shown to be wrong but threw a temper tantrum and started namecalling when he didn't get his way. Literally tried PRETENDING like something was there when there wasn't (in this case: something Satanic).
>Egyptian in occult sense
>So your only argument is he's wrong about something being satanic?
Yes. Because that's how the whole "Satanic Panic" hysteria/hoax started.
>Who couldn't possibly have been pretending to be a christian zealot
Wow that's hardcore denial.
Yes they were just "pretending" when they came over and starting trashing someone else's home and calling everything "evil" and "of Satan". Then getting into a fight with my parents for letting me listen to "the devil's music" (Pink Floyd).
Know that "god warrior" clip on youtube? They were pretty much that. I wasn't sexually abused by them. Just got smacked and generally abused.
We've been over that. People can see the conversation for themselves.
>S-satanism has nothing to do with ancient Egypt g-guys I swear! I wouldn't lie to you!
And you were shown to be wrong.
Again; that's Crowley in Golden Dawn garb. He was later kicked out/left.
You realize you're just reposting exactly what you did yesterday right? The same shit we discussed and you were humiliated when shown to be wrong? Then started calling everyone kikes?
I wasn't. I have no reason to lie because I hate them and their zealot bullshit.
The only relative I was sexually abused by was someone my age at the time and it had nothing to do with religion.
What else did you expect?
>And you were shown to be wrong.
I'm going to tell you something that you need to know, and will know, at some time in your existence.
There are only two roads. They lead to radically different destinations.
There are only two spiritual fathers. They also lead to radically different destinations.
There are only two sides in this war. They too lead to radically different destinations.
Therefore, anything not of Christ, is of satan.
Any side that is not Chrit's, is satan's.
Anyone that does not belong to Christ, belongs to satan.
You're really just splitting hairs on what turns out to be an enormous hangman's noose.
See? Just as I said. You just start namecalling like a child when you're shown to be wrong or don't get your way.
I rest my case.
You are aware that "baphomet" was
1. A mistranslation of "Muhammad" and used to slander the knights templars
2. Didn't exist until the medieval ages
And you DO know Egyptians had numerous animals as idols...right? Like birds and dogs and cats?
>Here's some Egyptian goats "playing" with children
So did numerous other Egyptian animal idols. Some of them had bird heads and others had dogs (like Anubis). You're cherry picking.
You have a dilettante's understanding of spirituality.
Protip: Howard Levy didn't invent "Satanism."
Holy shit, they made some statues of goats! This proves everything, because goats are absolutely inextricably linked with Satan worship and have absolutely no other significance whatsoever in any way, shape or form! The Egyptians definitely didn't raise livestock and consider that very important to their survival so it must be a Satan thing!
>if Bahomet did not exist prior to the Templars being accused of worshiping him
Read the first part again.
It was a mistranslation of Muhammad. It was then painted as a demon figure to slander them.
Well it does matter in historical and factual context. I'm sure it doesn't if you're a christfag who doesn't live in reality.
What? Now you're gonna ignore ALL that and just say "w-well w-who cares! its a-all s-satan anyway"?
It's funny because the Satan character didn't even exist yet. And even if you do believe in a literal Satan then it still wouldn't work because "God" didn't reveal all that shit yet. So how could they have even known?
And why would "God" allow all these ancient people to think Horus and all those were the real Gods?
>because its man made ladies and gentlemen
>It was a mistranslation of Muhammad.
Ahchtually, Baphomet relates to the "Goat of Mendes" who was worshiped by the Ancient Egyptians
how do you know its not depictions of angles? or other deities
how can you possible tell that its a demon?
how can you possible tell that its under the authority of satan
how the fuck do you know christianity is the absolute truth
how can you not know that christianity was popularized by a bunch of romans who saw they where losing control of their empire and saw this as another way to control
no satanism was invented by christianity
as a means to make people fear what they dont understand so they would be easier to controll
>mfw it still works people are still afraid
>mfw i dont have a face
>It was never confused with Mohammad at that time;
Yes it was. Sorry. Denying reality doesn't actually erase reality.
Whatever. You're gonna be a little child and stick your fingers in your ears and ignore what anyone else says.
Do you mean how do I know, and you do not?
Or do you mean how do I know, when in your mind nobody knows?
Or do you mean, convince me of what you know?
Or do you mean, you disagree with me, and therefore cannot know anything....
This should not surprise you, but satanism was started by satan, as he desired to be worshiped as God. It didn't even start on earth. It predates humanity.
He knows, he'll keep whining anyway. He can't help it, he's a slave.
>i am typing a bunch of shit
>it makes me sound like a retard
>im better then you
>haha i know thats satan is real cuz god told me so in a dream
yeah sorry bro your not that convincing you just sound like a retard
altho i would love to hear how your so certain of what you speak of
Because I know that the bible is the Word of God, and have studied it for a long time.
Getting revealed information from God is inherently superior to believing what lies the Father of Lies lays out there.
Truth > Lies
>This should not surprise you, but satanism was started by satan, as he desired to be worshiped as God. It didn't even start on earth. It predates humanity.
Satan never wanted to be worshiped "as God". (Although he was effectively as much like "God" as any being can and will ever be)
Nothing in Satanism claims you should worship Satan.
A real Satanist will end up respecting Satan for his skills, earthly and otherwise, as it is revealed to you, that's about it.
The Fall of Lucifer
How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the lowest depths of the Pit.
You're being deceived. Satan promises you that you can become like a God but you are a fool for trusting the Father of Lies.
>You have given no foundation for Mohammad being the genesis of Bahomet,
> the origin of the name Baphomet was a probable Old French version of "Mahomet"
"Mahomet" = "Muhammad"
You're mixing theology with historical documented facts.
You don't live in reality and thus should be ignored.
It's historically documented that Jesus of Nazareth rose from the dead, and christianity is nothing more than the belief that Jesus of Nazareth rose from the dead, validating His claims to be God.
But you can worship a goat headed demon, if you'd like. You just can't escape the consequences of worshiping a goat headed demon.
Any source I give you'll simply say "nod gredibul!"
Feel free to research it yourself.
>It's historically documented that Jesus of Nazareth rose from the dead
OH GOD MY SIDES.
>But you can worship a goat headed demon,
I don't worship anything. I'm not a dog who rolls over on its back when kicked or a beggar. I also don't believe in talking snakes or magical fruits like a child.
I'm actually a Christian more than a Satanist...
In the sense I call myself whatever religion happens to have the most potent information for understanding reality.
My interpretation of The Bible places Satan as the most pure being.
I also consider every name of The Bible at the very least a different incarnation of the same being.
Lucifer is separate from Satan who is separate from The Devil.
> Satan promises you that you can become like a God but you are a fool for trusting the Father of Lies.
The interpretation where Satan is older than God means it is very easy to become like God... like a weekend course.
Becoming like Satan is a lifetime of trials, sacrifice and both logical and physical growth.
Oh you mean that word thats been translated a thousand times
most likely rewritten a hundred times because some faggot read something he dident like in it
not to mention most of it was written by some faggot named paul who said that women where evil and would ruin humanity
if you think that shit was written/dictated by god then nigga you stupid
it was written by humans it was dictated by humans it was rewritten by humans it was translated by you guessed it humans!
then 1800 years later some human picked it up and said ERRHMEEERGURRD I MUST TELL THE INTERNET BOUT TE EVIL SANTA
yeah sure buddy you go ahead and keep living by the "truth"
>Modern scholars such as Peter Partner and Malcolm Barber agree that the name of Baphomet was an Old French corruption of the name Muhammad, with the interpretation being that some of the Templars, through their long military occupation of the Outremer, had begun incorporating Islamic ideas into their belief system, and that this was seen and documented by the Inquisitors as heresy. Alain Demurger, however, rejects the idea that the Templars could have adopted the doctrines of their enemies. Helen Nicholson writes that the charges were essentially "manipulative" — the Templars "were accused of becoming fairy-tale Muslims." Medieval Christians believed that Muslims were idolatrous and worshipped Muhammad as a god, with mahomet becoming mammet in English, meaning an idol or false god. This idol-worship is attributed to Muslims in several chansons de geste. For example, one finds the gods Bafum e Travagan in a Provençal poem on the life of St. Honorat, completed in 1300. In the Chanson de Simon Pouille, written before 1235, a Saracen idol is called Bafumetz.
>I don't believe in talking snakes or magical fruits either.
You have to in order to be a real Christian.
Translated more often than that, likely, and with tens of thousands of manuscript bits to demonstrate that it is 99.5% intact from several thousands of years ago, the differences being spelling variants and copyist errors. Nothing of doctrine whatsoever.
The scroll of Isaiah was even more pure. 99.8% intact and identical to today's script, with again the differences being spelling variants and idioms.
>I also don't believe in talking snakes or magical fruits like a child.
Nobody takes that literally...
Except maybe in the sense a snake always says "sSssSSsS" and "Synsepalum dulcificum" is a pretty magical fruit.. (it alters your taste bud for hours, neat huh!?)
Maybe read the second line of my post.
The serpent was cursed to lose its legs and crawl on its belly.
It therefore had legs prior to being indwelt by satan.
It was therefore not a talking snake.
Nice superiority complex there, sin.
How about, instead of just flat out dismissing something because, "lol that's stupid" you actually provide an argument to continue the discussion.
Or you can continue communicating as you are and we will ignore you.
>It'ssssssss all a conissssssssidenssssssss goyim!
>The serpent was cursed to lose its legs and crawl on its belly.
>It therefore had legs prior to being indwelt by satan.
>It was therefore not a talking snake.
That's a lot of mental gymnastics just to deny a talking snake in a book filled with even more utterly insane fairytale nonsense.
The Goat of Mendes
Ptah the Egyptian God of Magick, knowledge and wisdom (an alias of Satan) *became* the goat, and sometimes a ram in the city of Mendes where he was worshipped as such. The Goat/Ram of Mendes represented the "Ba" which was the Egyptian word for the "soul." Ptah was considered to be a great magician and "Lord of the Serpents."1
>Satan = Lucifer = Devil
satan = the opposer mentiond only once in the old testament (not using the actual name satan but its belived its where the name derived from) that one angel who told god to stop being an asshole to some guy
Lucifer = jupiter
Devil = christian construct said to be EVERY SINGLE DEITY IN THE ENTIRE WORLD EXEPT THE CHRISTIAN GOD
pretty good way to get followers and to keep followers if you ask me
Translated more often than that, likely, and with tens of thousands of manuscript bits to demonstrate that it is 99.5% intact from several thousands of years ago, the differences being spelling variants and copyist errors. Nothing of doctrine whatsoever.
I call bullshit
HaSatan is Satan
Heilel Ben Shakar is Shining One, Son of the Dawn.
Lucifer is a poor translation of Heilel Ben Shakar.
The Devil can appear as an angel of light (because he is).
Satan = Lucifer = Devil.
You're taking someone else's belief/religion and just throwing "Satan" on it yourself.
Except no. Read the wikipedia article. It's a theory. Not fact.
Even if it is then who cares. It's one animal God out of a thousand in Ancient Egypt.
Carn doesn't say any of those books belong in the bible. And they don't. No apocrypha, gnostic gospel, infancy gospel, etc., belongs in the bible. They aren't scripture.
In a similar fashion, Moby Dick does not belong in the bible, although it is a good book.
"Die Figur ist die Figur!"
And of course The Bible is built around framing Satan.
Don't you find it odd after all those accusations, SOMEHOW... Satan still holds some kind of court? He has some sort of followers? Forced or otherwise?
Again, being like God is a weekend course. Being an angel is a 5 minute course.
>Even if it is then who cares. It's one animal God out of a thousand in Ancient Egypt.
Yes. I am taking depictions of a goat headed god carved into ancient Egyptian monuments as fact that they preceded the crusades.
You know how people say it isn't carved in stone?
This is literally carved in stone.
>LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU IT'S ALL A COINCIDENCE LALALA!
fragment dead sea scrollAre there lost books of the Bible? No, there aren't. But that hasn't stopped people from saying there are. The Christian church didn't establish the Word of God. Instead, the Christian church recognized it.
“My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;" (John 10:27).
>I am taking depictions of a goat headed god carved into ancient Egyptian monuments as fact that they preceded the crusades.
You're taking a random statue and just saying it is what you want it to be.
This doesn't change reality or facts. Sorry.
Did you forget about Anubis and all the other animal gods?
Everything literal in the bible should be taken literally. Everything parabolic should be taken parabollically. Every metaphor should be taken metaphorically.
>Like I'm not trying to get 6 7's
Not one bit. I note that YHWH wrecked them all, taking His Chosen People out of Egypt, and leaving nothing of value behind.
Each plague, an attack on a specific Egyptian demon god. Anubis saw all of the firstborn males of Egypt die, and stood there helpless before Almighty God.
LaVeyan Satanist here (that's the atheist one).
We do incorporate some Egyptian mythology in our philosophy/religion as well as our rituals. Gimme one sec and I'll provide a clip of Magus Peter H. Gilmore (current High Priest and owner of The Church of Satan) saying Baphomet and the symbol comes goes all the way back to Egyptian times.
what kind of /x/ powers do you get for dancing on baby skulls?
This is the logical trend common amongst Protestants (at least those who bother with logic at all).
Catholicism bases its faith in the Bible on Ecumenical Councils (the First Ecumenical Council is in the Acts of the Apostles), specifically the Council of Trent (which was called in reaction to the Reformation). The Council of Trent was the first group of people to canonize scripture since hundreds of years before Christ.
Not saying this is a reason to believe any claims about the Bible (I'm a lapsed Catholic who hasn't practiced in a long time and don't care to anymore), just trying to put the facts out there.
You're giving aid and comfort to a person who states that Jesus did not rise from the dead.
Even for a catholic, even for a lapsed catholic, I find your advocacy of that lie appalling.
Here it is
What past events? Your entire religion is not based in fact whatsoever. I ignore them because none of them are historically documented ("God smiting blah blah and Satan blah blah").
None of the supernatural events are historical fact.
>The Creation, the Flood, the Exodus, the Resurrection; all denied, by you, in denying the bible as an historical document.
Are you claiming all those are historically documented and are proven to have happened or the Bible (book) itself is a historical document?
You seem so sure that they didn't happen and I would like you to provide evidence to support your assertion.
You're literally saying supernatural events like Adam & Eve and the flood are historical facts and were proven to have happened.
I rest my case. This is either trolling or you people really are schizophrenic.
>provide evidence for something that didn't happen
The Holy Scriptures > some random anon
I hope the Christian nutjob is a troll, because if not, he's bringing great shame to Khristos/Mashiah. This guy is a one note wonder and he'll react the same every time. Time to report and ignore. Stop feeding the troll/delusional nut.
This is an interesting concept
So the whole idea is that you can create multiple personalities in young children by severely abusing them. dissociative identity disorder, they create a persona that experiences that so their main psyche doesn't have to.
With more torture they can create even more
personalities and program them using hypnosis and such to add triggers to various stimuli.
I cant explain it well. Most of you are probably familiar with project monarch. The stories almost always involve satanic ritual abuse as a way to traumatize the children.
Yeshuah and I are alright in the same way. I just happen to hold to an ideology and philosophy that gets called Satanic by the ignorant masses. I'm a hybrid of Thelemite and traditionalist Catholic. I've also studied other forms of Christendom, which is wide and varied. Authentic Christianity has at it's heart a Eucharistic ritual, baptism, chrismatization, and in many cases burial rites as well. The 4 marks of a church also apply. I believe in confession, the community of the saints, and many other beliefs of the Orthodox and Catholic Churches. I reject for the most part the fudamentalist ideologies which I feel are detrimental to human beings. That's where me and your average fundie tend to part ways.
Bunch of bunk.
Christians are responsible for the largest child sex abuse cover-up in the history of mankind, and yet everyone is talking about Satanic ritual abuse? lol k.
OP is a shill.
Has nothing to do with Satanism.
When Satanists actual do abuse kids, they're arrested and outcast from the Satanic community (as in the case of Jimmy Savile). In fact, an FBI report has debunked the notion of large-scale, secret Satanic cults abusing kids, and you can find that info and more below.
Christians cover shit up.
Hence "largest child sex abuse cover-up in the history of mankind."
That has nothing to do with Satanism or the "Satanic." But Christians cant seem to point their finger at themselves and say "Christian sexual abuse" ..it has to be other people doing the abuse (Satanists).
Fix your own religion by first admitting to how shitty it is.
Dude, I believe nearly the same as you. If I take a contrary position, it's because I want to try to see what kind of person you are. I was raised to be a brainwashed follower, but I got some kind of personal faith that really goes beyond that. Read some books on the classical Church and you'll see that the truth is in the Old Catholic and Orthodox churches. Things which elevate the mind to goodness, like the hymns, are part of how you defeat the evil. The greatest weapon against evil is the Body and Blood. To both eat and drink them is a profound act, regarded as nothing by many fundamentalists. They reject life, which is a huge pity.
Christianity, the belief that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, started when Jesus rose from the dead. The Church He started officially started 50 days later, on the Day of Pentecost.
To be a christian, one must confess out loud that Jesus is the LORD, and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead.
The catholic church started almost 300 years later, as a reaction to the Roman empire's inability to stamp out christianity. It leader at the time, a sun worshiper named Constantine, decriminalized christianity and eventually lauded it as superior to the other pagan Roman religions.
To be a catholic, one must be a member in good standing of the Roman Catholic Church. And of course, by its tenets, only members of the Roman Catholic Church go to heaven.
The difference between a born again christian and a catholic are literally night and day, heaven and hell differences.
A christian't faith is in Jesus Christ for salvation.
A catholic's faith is in the Roman catholic church to save them.
This is misinformed and mixed with some truth to make it look good.
A person is born again when they receive baptism and anointing with oil. The Holy Spirit comes down and resides in the person. You'd be shocked to hear this is also the Catholic and Apostolic belief as well. I find it hard to understand why you think I'm not saved. What makes you so special?
Jesus: Tell everyone, all around the world, preach the gospel to the poor.
Me: Okey doke.
You: Keep it to yourself.
Can you guess who your spiritual father is, or should I let it slip?
>To be a christian, one must confess out loud that Jesus is the LORD, and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead.
Catholics do this.
>A catholic's faith is in the Roman catholic church to save them.
You're highly uneducated in Catholicism.
"The Catholic Church teaches that salvation comes through Jesus alone (Acts 4:12)"
>Only members of the Roman Catholic Church go to heaven.
Pope Francis has recently stated that all people who do good, including atheists, can go to Heaven.
You are both highly uneducated in basic Catholic beliefs, but you're also pompous enough to dislike an entire group of people simply because of your own ignorance.
Back to the trap thread.
You, of course, have absolutely what part of it is not true, and cannot, as you cannot discern truth. It's just not in you.
And no, you cannot coerce God with water and oil, and to think so is profoundly absurd.
Tell me. Of what use is being smart in a lake of fire?
The great commission was for the APOSTLES. The average believer is in a position to the people in the Early Church who believed because of one of the Apostles - called to live the life and be in the body. To participate, but not to go out and bring everyone into the fold. The Apostles work is done. There is a huge array of churches, many with the Apostolic founding. Just do some reading on the Saint Thomas Christians in India and the Ethiopian Tewahedo Church. Get some knowledge.
Ah, finally, a professional liar.
“Jesus established here on earth only one Church and instituted it as a visible and spiritual community that from its beginning and throughout the centuries has always existed and will always exist, and in which alone are found all the elements that Christ himself instituted. […] This Church, constituted and organised in this world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church, governed by the successor of Peter and the Bishops in communion with him.”
Your pope was also wrong in saying that atheists go to heaven.
Because, you know, he's a sinner in need of a savior like everyone else.
No true Scotsman deals with behavior.
Christianity is about transformation.
No true christian has not been transformed by the Holy Spirit, as only transformation by the Holy Spirit makes one a christian.
In other words, not everyone who says they are a christian, is a christian.
All christians are witnesses, and some choose to spread the gospel.
Apostolic succession is a tool of satan to blind people from their personal responsibility.
And the work of the church is not done, not yet.
I gave sources.
You're garbage and a failtroll.
4chan is the birth-place of internet shenanigans.
If you're going to come here and try to bait trolls,
you had better bring fresh bait.
"Catholic VS Christian guise LOL!"
Is old, stale garbage, just like your mom's vagoo.
Step your game up and quit shitposting.
The quote is from YOUR sources. kek
It's catholic, pure and pure. We're the church of Peter, we're the only true and holy church, only we get into heaven because only we have the crackers and the juice.
And of course the pope was wrong to tell atheists they could follow their own consciences to heaven. Dead wrong.
>No one said "leave me alone".
>Why don't you let Jesus worry about me dude. He and I are tight.
I'm saddened to see adults behaving like this. Even on 4chan.
Thankfully there aren't many like you anymore in the 1st world.
I bear you no ill will. I hope you're happy you've managed to get a few replies out of me. I should have left you to your own foolishness after the first one. I'm done.
Fortunately, the only form of child abuse going on there is what their supposed 'guardians' are teaching them. Making them lie and repeat obscene and graphic things at such a young age is disgusting.
The only real evidence and proof I've seen of any kind of "ritual abuse" has been from Christians and the Christian church.
I mean just a few weeks ago yet another priest was caught fooling around with an underage girl.
and all the other posts making this a "christian" issue.
this is not common sense. obviously if this molesting is going on it is not "christian" in any traditional sense of the word. it is people doing their own covert and obscene rituals, whatever they may be based off of, and are using public resources to do that behind a front of christian churches. obviously this isn't supposed to be a pissing match between different world views. it is a matter of covert crime being committed. if it were "christian" we wouldn't be astounded by the allegations.
this isn't a matter about bickering about religion.
True but not useful.
Careful what you wish for. The sudden disappearance of the best people in the world will be traumatic.
It's important to tell you that you are not saved. I've done my bit. The rest is on you.
You don't get saved by what's in your head.
You get saved by Who is inside you.
I've watched all of the videos this guy uploaded. Too much of it was bullshit. Too much of it felt staged and forced. There is no chance on Earth these kids are really 'survivors' of Satanic child abuse.
Tell the catholic church that, as they have adamantly refused to inform local authorities of all of the sex crimes their "eunuch" priests commit, dealing with the matter as purely internal instead.
As christians, we're pretty quick to throw abominations like that to the cops.
>the best people in the world
How very narcissistic of you to make such an astute claim.
On the contrary some of the worst (and dumbest) people I've met were Christians.
So no. We will (and are) much better without you vile hypocrites.
The best people in the world will be raptured, because the best people in the world are tabernacles of the Holy Spirit.
We go, He goes.
And then it's hell on earth. Literally. The One Who Restrains, will no longer do so.
well obviously no one knows about that. and if you knew anything about real satanism you would know that the kids are talking about satanic rituals.
but of course that doesn't mean much. the fact is crimes are being committed using seemingly innocuous fronts to engage in murder and rape.
I don't know what to make of Jesus being "inside me" and all. I know I said the last post I made would be my last to you, but I had to respond. You're just too infuriatingly self righteous that you have to be a troll or seriously delusional. I'd add sick and perverted, but I'm a real pervert. I'm many things, whatever is needed for me to be. All things to all men. I wear a lot of hats you see. You are a boring, one note, silly throwback to a silly ideology that isn't even old. Wicca is older than your silly shit.
If you enjoy bacon and shrimp cocktails then you're going to hell. If you fap to this pic...well you're normal and heterosexual. You might think you're going to hell, but that's because you're crazy.
No true scotsman comes from you claiming anyone who does something bad or doesn't fit your view isn't a Christian.
You moved the goalposts by saying its not about [x] but about [y].
Theological faith and religious beliefs do not relate to this. We're talking about logical fallacies. Not whether one beliefs in magical fairytales.
>The best people in the world will be raptured,
People like you need to be in a padded cell.
Which only makes sense. If you put huge signs outside your dungeon house inviting children to come in and be tortured and raped, you'd probably have a rather fatal accident sooner rather than later.
>You're just too infuriatingly self righteous
Most Christians are. It has the amazing ability to make someone both narcissistic and have a slave like mentality.
Where the person believes they are superior to everyone but then acts like a kicked dog before an imaginary friend.
I'm glad the real you came out. Now maybe we can get some work done.
If you stood before a holy God, and confessed just this post, do you know for certain that He would judge you guilty, and cast your soul into hell?
Does being cast into hell sound like something you'd like to avoid?
Well, then, it's your lucky day, as God saves sinners like yourself, and like me, from the consequences of our sins.
Would you like to know how he does that?
From: A LaVeyan Satanist
You're misstating my position, again, and as usual.
I said that every christian has the Holy Spirit of God living in them; that every single christian has been born again in the Spirit. And transformed into a new creation in Christ Jesus.
That becoming a christian is not modeling different behavior, or trying to do good, or trying to avoid evil, but consenting to be transformed into what you were intended to be all along; a Spirit filled new creation in Christ Jesus.
So if a person says they are a christian, but do not have the Holy Spirit inside of them, they can claim to be a christian all day long and it will avail them nothing. They can pull out all the good works they want. They can donate billions to feed the poor. They can cast demons out in the name of Jesus, and heal the sick.
But if they don't have the Holy Spirit, they remain a spiritually dead human being, just as they were born. And there is no place in heaven for the spiritually dead.
Because we are not slaves. We are free.
We are adopted into the Family of God, and made joint heirs with Christ Jesus.
Such a thing is more remarkable than anything else you pursue.
God knows me since I've told him I'm a sinner. I've never pretended to be pure and clean, since I know I'm anything but.
The only kind of Satanist.
>not even real satanist.
Translation: "I'm scared shitless that people might leave my religion for theirs".
I'm hoping the Christian nut will go away after he has a good wank. He might be some kind of repressed homosexual, but whatever. Come on Christfag. Just stop being a stupid fuck or quit trolling.
Free. I can't even describe it to you. Free from anything. Free from satan. Free from drugs. Free from booze. Free from fear. Free from worry. Free from the Law. Free from rules. Free.
Bought at a price, and set free; welcomed into the family, and made an heir. Established in heaven, and provided a mansion.
Not going to hell. I know I have the hope of heaven, or the hope that at the very least it's not full of people like you. God is just.
I love it when Christians try to sneak their bullshit in popular fads so it looks "hip and cool".
They tried it with rock.
They tried it with rap.
They tried it with anime and superheroes.
They tried it with comics.
And every time they were laughed at before disappearing to try something else.
Failure after failure after failure.
That's called "Stockholm Syndrome" brah.
>LaVey is just bullshit. it isn't real satanism
How would you know?
>I'm not christian.
Never said you were. Why so defensive?
You know church girls are always the biggest sluts.
One time a girl sucked me off in the bathroom of one. Right in front of a portrait of Jesus.
Shit was so cash.
>in my own way
There's your problem; Christ is the way.
What fellowship do light and darkness share?
Were you not instantly identified as a child of satan, despite your seemingly "christian" "beliefs"?
If I can do such a thing, trivially, do you not think God can?
I'm well aware of what Jesus meant by the "Way".
God is not blinded by a man made dogma like you are.
Says the rationally thinking realist who doesn't blindly believe illogical fairytale nonsense.
Well this thread was fun. Y'all have a good one. Or bad one. Probably a bad one since you're miserable fucks.
I'm gonna go back to doing things I enjoy now.
He's saying he's a legitimate teacher. He spoke to Jewish men, called them to teach what he was teaching them. I can say his use of the word is not original, since it is found in China and in India. Christianity took root in those countries because the concepts were similar. Buddhist ideas came to Greece and influenced the religious environment of the country. They later carried this over to Gnosticism.
>How would you know?
because I know what satanism is. Lavey is half baked nonsense. what the children describe in these movies are real satanic methods.
and I am not being "Defensive" I'd say you are.
Lavey is watered down bullshit they used to sell and places like Borders and Barnes and Noble. it is for the "masses" to consume as a novelty.
>e's saying he's a legitimate teacher. He spoke to Jewish men, called them to teach what he was teaching them. I can say his use of the word is not original, since it is found in China and in India. Christianity took root in those countries because the concepts were similar. Buddhist ideas came to Greece and influenced the religious environment of the country. They later carried this over to Gnosticism.
If there was any uncertainty about your choice in eternal destinations, there is none now.
>because I know what satanism is
Nope. You know what Christians say Satanism is. Which isn't the reality.
>it is for the "masses" to consume as a novelty.
Proof right there you don't know what you're talking about. It's not meant for the masses.
you don't understand what satanism is so you are saying I say what "christians" say it is.
that isn't even true. These children are describing authentic methods and rites. you are just a kid who plays satanist and you're either too cowardly to really be a satanist or you aren't really a satanist, just an angsty teen.
you don't understand the purpose of the rituals so you just argue and say it isn't satanism but some book written by a bullshitter is somehow real satanism, even though all he is is another new age writer writing particularly edgy bullshit.
>if all else fails call him a jew like yesterday
Just as predicted. I rest my case.
I base my opinions on a number of observations that I collate into one verb, in this case 'feel'. How they speak, how they hold themselves, how freely they give up information, what words they use, what phrases they use, what cues their 'guardians' give them during recording, how their guardians speak, how the videos are gathered and what actions (or in this case, lack of) that their guardians have taken after finding this stuff.
Does that make sense, or is your autism preventing it?
>you don't understand what satanism is
Really? Because I'm a Satanist.
>so you are saying I say what "christians" say it is.
Because that's the truth.
Reality isn't on your side. Namecalling and throwing tantrums doesn't change it.
FYI: I fully know about real theistic Satanic rituals. Its nothing but spiritual schizos like Christians and Muslims.
Lol you're like that guy behind the big guy that keeps jumping up and going "Y-YEAH!"
Sold =/= bought.
But it has sold over a million copies. Heh.
And if the children said a gigantic teddy bear appeared out of nowhere, mentally raped them both and disappeared to some higher dimension, would you need an 'objective fact' in order to ascertain if they were telling the truth or not? Or would you use your brain and work it out for yourself?
>Reality isn't on your side. Namecalling and throwing tantrums doesn't change it.
I am not going to tell you what these methods really entail. But the kids give plenty of hints if you actually pay attention to what they say.
so watch the vids. you might learn something.
i am far from throwing a tantrum. You are just a follower of Lavey so are defending his crappy books and lame rituals.
No, they said an entire group of teachers, parents and policemen are consistently raping children, murdering babies and engaging in cannibalism all with no one else knowing apart from a couple of kids who talk like they've been indoctrinated by a creepy person behind a camera asking them for specific things.
Sorry for the late reply. Had to run to the store for a minute.
>I am not going to tell you what these methods really entail. But the kids give plenty of hints if you actually pay attention to what they say.
Translation: "I have no idea what I'm talking about but I have an agenda."
>i am far from throwing a tantrum.
Yes you are.
So far it seems like the notion you're pushing is "you can only be a real Satanist if you eat babies and rape grannies and kill animals and blah blah." Which is a fallacy.
It also seems like you want and are advocating criminal actions. Why are you advocating crime?
I was going to tell you a secret, but then my better judgment took me back.
"do not cast your pearls before swine" seems fitting for this argument.
you can believe what you want about me. But in the end you are a (pfft) "Laveyan" satanist. So no matter what, I get the last laugh in this argument.
best of luck to you on your "path" to Barnes and noble or Amazon.com to get your latest fix of "truth" in between bouts of jerking off behing your computer screen and chanting "hail satan" or some silly mockery of the pater noster like some angsty teen with a bone to pick with his parents for yelling at him after catching him jerking off. or some variation on that theme.
>I was going to tell you a secret, but then my better judgment took me back.
BAHAHAHAHAHA. I remember hearing that back when I was a kid. Funnily enough I haven't heard it since.
Are you a kid?
>But in the end you are a (pfft) "Laveyan" satanist. So no matter what, I get the last laugh in this argument.
I don't see how. You're namecalling and being a miserable fuck on 4chan and I go on living just fine as does every other Satanist.
Last laugh indeed brah.
>best of luck to you on your "path" to Barnes and noble or Amazon.com to get your latest fix of "truth"
Does this imply no books of wisdom or personal philosophies can be found at (gasp) book stores?
>like some angsty teen with a bone to pick with his parents for yelling at him after catching him jerking off. or some variation on that theme.
I'm an adult and my parents are atheists as well. The only time they caught me jerking off was when I was 13 and my father said it "was normal to have those feelings".
But yeah no. You get the last laugh.
Wow you even talk and act like a kid.
Welp. Have a good one.
>Does this imply no books of wisdom or personal philosophies can be found at (gasp) book stores?
some wisdom can be found at bookstores but absolutely NOT Satanism. this should be obvious to you why.
but then again... you are "LaVeyan" haha.
I'm most likely older than you. And if not then wow.
Your personal taste now dictates what others find useful?
Sorry. That's not how shit works. That's how a child's mind works.
I don't like Wiccan crap. Others do and find some books in there to be useful to their own beliefs and philosophies. Same with Satanism.
Thread is over.
If there nothing left to discuss and all there is is namecalling and smiley faces then there's no point in continuing.
Your mentality speaks for itself. Even when you pretend its trolling.
>Anything referencing Christianity in Pop culture is a scheme to get people to convert.
Why do you keep running away from arguments? Are you a coward?
Gays are real people. Religious beliefs are fairytale nonsense and completely unproveable.
It's the fact that for decades Christians have tried over and over to make their religion seem cool and hip and have failed every time. It just shows how utterly desperate they are for people to join their cult of death.
Fuck 'em. Toss 'em out along with Muslims and Jews and all other religious fanatics.
The irony of this thread is extraordinary. There are plenty of atheist and those of undefined or non judeo-christian religious denomination who recognize the sad veracity of accusations of SRA: And that it must be stopped. Yet instead of making allies with such persons, Christianities own conditioning is manipulated and played upon to prevent them from working together with such people. Divide and conquer at It's saddest.
Everybody to the same hole.
I have a visión i can't the real bad men digging a grave, from one part goes christian and religous people and from another atheist peopple walking in oposite direction to the christian, and the battle is on the center of the hole and begin to fall on it. and from another side from the clash are the bad guys looking how the peopple fall in his trap.
Fuck you europe! you are a bad example for the world!
>writing an article about an abuse victim to try and push your bullshit conspiracy theories
Because Christians do not want you asking questions or show any kind of evidence that they are wrong.
I think everyone here regardless of personal beliefs is against child abuse.
If you're looking for someone to blame then blame the people who throw tantrums or biblethump when shown to be wrong.