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God-tier unsolved murder mysteries?

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God-tier unsolved murder mysteries?
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Dyatlov Pass. The legend of mini-godzilla.
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>>15160439
who was phone
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>>15160439
whatever happened to Judge Joe Crater?
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>>15160439
isdal woman gives me the creeps
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>>15160439

Tamam Shud case (Somerton Man) is definitely top of the godtier. We need Mulder and Scully plus Sherlock Holmes and Watson to solve this case.
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>>15160439
He was a spy, it's on the Wikipedia page

Isdal woman too.

Basically Cold War weirdness = spyshit
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>>15160439

what a coincidence, I was just reading about the somerton beach guy article, that's some god tier mystery.

There's a bunch of weird shit that happened in my country, which might not have ever been published in English
Now /x/ has a Wiki maybe I'll write articles about those someday
But it's nothing as mindblowing as the somerton beach case or the dyatlov pass incident
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>DB Cooper
http://www.citizensleuths.com/db-cooper-what-you-need-to-know.html

>Eliza Lam
http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/mysterious-case-elisa-lam/

>Tara Calico
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara_Calico
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>>15160439
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Zodiac Killer
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>>15161070
8/10 Xtra spoooky
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>>15161078
Zodiac killer is by far god tier because the unsolved code means any old fuck might end up cracking the case.

Have you been studying it?
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>>15160950

maybe it's more spy shit?
the somerton beach dude case is assumed to be a spy story, and both involve a suitcase, removed labels, and codewords
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>>15161064
>Eliza Lam
>http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/mysterious-case-elisa-lam/

this is some creepy shit
from the look of it, it's just a result of some mental disorder.
What are considered coincidences in the article are probably what reinforced the woman's delirium. This is probably why she was in that hotel in the first place.

The elevator wasn't moving because she pressed many buttons. Most elevators do that. Just walk into a hotel and try pressing all the buttons very quickly in the elevator, you'll see all the leds go off and the elevator will wait until it receives another call. It's a security thingy to prevent kids from messing with the machine.
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>>15160439
http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/27/pilots-spot-creepy-red-glow-under-the-pacific-ocean-possibly-after-underwater-volcano-eruption-4847038/

This is a recent one which i dont think will ever have a satisfactory explanation

>volcano
>green and purple lights
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>>15161497
yea
clearly a got-tier unsolved murder mystery
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>>15161064
My favorite DB Cooper theory is that he never existed and was made up by the crew, who were collaborating to get the money.

Possible supporting evidence:
>The crew all described a completely average guy in every way
>Or were vague about his appearance
>all witnesses had foggy memories of the things he said
>they described the bomb he held as several sticks of dynamite with a clock on top. Lol what, is this Tom and Jerry? Bombs were far more advanced than that even 30 years ago.
>this supposed mastermind criminal jumped out of a plane with a chute he hadn't tested into tempestuous bad weather at a higher altitude than is usually jumped from
>nobody ever saw him apart from people on the plane
>he ordered two strong drinks while on the flight. Sorry but this is implausible. Unless you have a liver of steel you don't function properly after two glasses of liquor.
>the plane was an incredibly specific model which had the ability to open its backside
>Cooper supposedly somehow knew how to open it leading to the theory that he was a war veteran
>or wait the pilot could have just flicked a switch
>despite a ridiculously extensive search, no body was ever found, nor any trace of money, briefcase, or parachutes (yes chutes plural, he supposedly took two and cut one up to use as rope) apart from some money that hasn't been confirmed as related to the case and was also found relatively far from the projected landing site

There's better summaries of the theory but I tried.
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>>15161512
oh yeah didnt notice 'murder' in that
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>>15161497
>he doesn't know about diffraction

try harder pls
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>>15161064
the eliza lam case has always interested me. it seems pretty obvious that an employee of the hotel had to have been involved, considering she was able to get onto the roof, and open the water tank.

i find it really strange that the case doesn't have an on-going murder investigation.
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>>15161565

having seen many conferences by physical security pentester I don't have any difficulty believing that anyone could access a watertank on a hotel rooftop even in a situation of extreme mental distress
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>>15161573

look for a defcon talked called "steal everything, kill everyone, cause total financial ruin"
there are many others like this but this one should give you a good idea, I believe it has a part about hotel security
There are other physical security talks about hotels but I don't remember the names, shouldn't be hard to find tho
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>>15161573
the water tank was 8 feet tall, though. and the rooftop door was supposedly locked and guarded by an alarm.

so if she did it herself, the door would have had to been unlocked, alarm off, and she would have had to find a fucking ladder or something to get into the tank.

what's also weird is that all the news articles claim that her history of bipolar disorder is to blame. have you ever met a bipolar person? they don't wig the fuck out and wander into 8 foot tall water tanks. they just have odd mood fluctuations and occasional paranoid delusions.
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>>15161534
I also forgot
>the eight cigarettes that he supposedly smoked should have left some form of evidence on the plane, they went down to fucking particle level to find this mother fucker
>the whereabouts of the butts, ash, and any other shit that falls out of cigarettes are 'unknown.' Unknown my arse, they never existed. If he existed and was smart enough to clean the plane of his cigarette leavings that thoroughly, why the fuck would he be dumb enough to take a dummy parachute? And why would he leave his tie behind? It smells. The tie reeks of a crew member who thought it would be more realistic if the criminal left a calling card
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>>15161588
okay, so i found this picture and apparently it would be extremely easy to get into the water tanks

but still, if it was suicide, why not just jump off the roof? why would you choose to drown yourself in a water tank? such a weird fucking case.
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>>15161642

cuz you're schizophrenic and you're in fucking delirium and you think it might be a good idea to jump into the water tank

notice the ladder is already there, kindly provided without any sort of security, she didn't have to bring one

so at this point if you think an alarm could have stopped an accident.........

could have happened to a stupid too
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>>15161654
*to a stupid kid too
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>>15161654
she didn't have schizophrenia, she was bipolar.

i don't know, i just find it suicide by drowning really odd. when your body starts to lose oxygen, you go into panic mode and usually wind up automatically pulling your self out of the water.

she would have had to have been floating there, with her face submerged in the water, and controlled her panic enough to just let herself drown.

that's a lot more effort than just jumping off the fucking roof. i'm not saying that it's not possible, but it's just really bizarre.
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>>15161675

> you go into panic mode and usually wind up automatically pulling your self out of the water.

not if something in your brain is blocking that kind of reflexes

I knew someone who died while eating cause he got some food stuck in his throat, and because he was high on drugs he didn't have the reflex to cough to evacuate the shit and he died cause he couldn't breath.
It's not really related to the case as the girl wasn't on drugs they say but being in delirium couldn't have helped her

also, perhaps she couldn't have left the tank even if she wanted to
how long do you survive in a tank full of near-boiling hot water?
what if the lid closed down on her and couldn't be opened from inside?
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>>15161642

there are windows facing the tanks
if nobody saw her jump into the water tank they'd at least have heard her scream if she had been pushed
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>>15161642
How did she get into the water tanks though? The video said that the firemen had to cut a hole to get her out. What's up with that?
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whats the name of the case involving the photo of that chick holding her hands in front of her in defense
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>>15161154
this is the best example of NOT being god tier.

This mystery is far far beyond god tier, it's around zodiac killer tier
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>>15161565
when this occured and tapes from elevator wast uploaded on yt, i saw someone on /x/, claming that there's some sort of curse, to fuck somebody up and what you do is you put a corpse in their drinking water, many anons here suggested that it was some sort of ritualistic murder, media will never touch the subject tho, i heard that all bipolar/schizo shit about her was made up to justify the story?
i can't give more details, might be something in the archives
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>>15162005

I'm no expert but if the corpse has been in fucking hot water for days it's probably not a good idea to try pulling it from above
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>>15160439
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salish_Sea_human_foot_discoveries
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isdal_woman
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keddie_Murders
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_put_Bella_in_the_Wych_Elm
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>>15162086
What's so special about Zodiac?
Just a serial killer who happened to be smart enough to not leave clues and got away. He's probably not even alive anymore.
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>>15161497
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara_Calico
Sick of all of these glowing light stories. Wow so spooky please tell me more about these lights.
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>>15160950
Wow, I hadn't read about that one before. Very cool.
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>>15161596
Have any more information? I've always been interested in this case.
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>>15161047
Any examples? What country are you from?
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>>15162347
> ITT: unsolved murder mysteries
>Just a serial killer who happened to be smart enough to not leave clues and got away
>probably not even alive anymore

>what's so special about Zodiac?
> ITT: God-tier unsolved murder mysteries
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>>15161064
Tara Calico:
>Two other Polaroid photographs, possibly of Calico, have surfaced over the years, but they have yet to be released to the public

Fuck, I wanna see!
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>>15162424

france

look up those in case they're documented in english:

--- the red pullover case
if I remember correctly it's about the murder of a girl but no one gave a shit about the case and they most likely ended up executing the wrong person so the case is still not solve, lots of weird shit involved

--- the murder of miss marshall
not sure if her name is spelled so, been a long time since I read about it
if I remember correctly they found her dead in her cellar, there were a bunch of pools of blood but no trails between them, and apparently she managed to write the name of her murderer on a wall after she was dead....yea
but it wasn't the right guy apparently
more weird shit
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http://www.nampn.org/cases/pensyl_john.html
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>>15162459


some references:

red pullover: http://www.murderpedia.org/male.R/r/ranucci-christian.htm
they don't give the whole story but that's a start, this article is about the guy they executed even though there wasn't much proving he was guilty

marshall: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Killed_Me
apparently they made a movie about that shit, this article is about the movie, maybe you'll find more references there
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>>15162459
>--- the red pullover case
Can you please be more specific, when I google it it just gives a bunch of sites to buy a red sweater.
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>>15162459
>>15162467
Thanks man.
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>>15162468

made a new post with references right above
christian ranucci is the guy they executed, if you look up his name you might find more

the case is called so because a red sweater has been found close to the crime scene and they don't know who it belongs to
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>>15162470

yewr welcome
if you can dig up some stuff in what's been documented in english be sure to put it on the /x/ wiki to centralize the info
then if I got some free time I'll put more info on the article, there's been lots of documentaries and articles and books produced in my language so I might be able to add some stuff
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>>15162078
>>15162078
>>15162078
Do you mean REgina Walters?

http://imgur.com/a/T1k2V
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Eliza always picked the *worst* hiding places during Hide 'N Go Seek.
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Lake Bodom murders were and still are a big mystery here in Finland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Bodom_murders
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>>15162557
More mysteries that are not from the US, please.
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>>15162564
This happened around the same time with Lake Bodom and still remains unsolved too.
http://www2.hs.fi/english/archive/news.asp?id=20000627xx1

Then there was another one up north in a small town of Kemi, a young woman called Elli Immo was brutally murdered.
Still unsolved too.
Many believe they might be connected, since these kinds of homicides were and still aren't common in Finland at all.
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>>15162233
But that's what the video said, the firemen had to cut the water tank to get the body
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>>15160509
Okay I've heard of that, but Mini Godzilla? Explain.
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>>15161701
>not if something in your brain is blocking that kind of reflexes
In that light, makes me wonder if she had taken any (prescribed) antipsychotics or antixyliotics and was a little woozy. Although perhaps the autopsy would have revealed elevated levels in her blood.

>>15162005
After soaking in there for so long, her skin would probably fall off of her bones if they weren't extremely gentle with her body.
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>>15160509

Mini godzilla?
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>>15162650

yes...........what I'm telling you......
make yourself a cup of super-hot tea, then drop a sugar cube in it, and try grabbing it back with two spoons.

You'll understand why you have to cut open the water tank in order to get a corpse out of boiling hot water.
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>>15162795

Wow, ew, I think you've just ruined tea for me
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>>15161534
>you dont function properly after two glasses of liquor
bitch do you even drink?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_McCormick%27s_encrypted_notes

This always has me feeling weird after reading it
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>>15163065

the fbi didn't publish the proposed plaintexts apparently, can't find them

the notes could just be random shit tho

why do murder victims always have ciphertext on them wtf
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>>15163112

I'm gonna do that too
I'm gonna write random crap on a piece of paper and I'll carry it with me everywhere I go

This way if I die in an accident or something it'll mess with people
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>>15160439

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Gosch

And

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinterkaifeck
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>>15162078
This one?
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>>15163145
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinterkaifeck

god tier!!
worth reading.
fucking worth reading.
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>>15163203
a dude
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>>15162461

I swear to God I've seen that kid before, where I work, except I live in PA.
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>>15163145
Obviously Victoria's husband (who was rumored to be dead) murdered them all to take revenge on his wife banging her father. He was reluctant to kill his daughter, but in the end he did it.
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>>15161534
It's not 2000 anymore, it's 40 years ago. It's ok, though, I sometimes fuck that up as well.
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>>15160509
From wikipedia, this is spooky as fuck

Some researchers[who?] claim some facts were missed, perhaps ignored, by officials:[1][3]

12-year-old Yury Kuntsevich, who would later become head of the Yekaterinburg-based Dyatlov Foundation (see below), attended five of the hikers' funerals, and recalls their skin had a "deep brown tan".[2]
Some of the hikers' clothing (2 pants and a sweater) were found to be highly radioactive.[2]
Another group of hikers (about 50 kilometers south of the incident) reported that they saw strange orange spheres in the night sky to the north (likely in the direction of Kholat Syakhl) on the night of the incident.[2] Similar spheres were observed in Ivdel and adjacent areas continually during the period from February to March 1959, by various independent witnesses (including the meteorology service and the military).[2] These were later confirmed by Eugene Buyanov to be test launches of R-7 intercontinental missiles.[12]
Some reports suggest that there was a great deal of scrap metal in and around the area, leading to speculation that the military had utilized the area secretly and might have been engaged in a cover-up.[2]
The last camp of Dyatlov's group was located on a direct path between Baikonur Cosmodrome (where some test launches of the R-7s were executed) to Chyornaya Guba, Novaya Zemlya archipelago (which was a major nuclear testing ground of the Soviet Union).
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>>15162664
>>15162745
The torn tent and signs of radiation, plus the explorers running from somthing seems godzillary to me. It wasn't a legit theory of mine, just a silly idea
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>>15163223
Do you actually know that, or are you basing it off "no female has short hair"?
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>>15162597
Usually all the murders or killings here in Finland start with a drunken brawl. These kind of murders are very rare here.
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There was a mysterious disappearance in Sölvesborg, a small town in Sweden just a few miles from where I grew up.

Sölvesborg used to have this underground punk/metal-club by the docks called Kartago, or "huset" as we called it when we used to go there. (It has since been shutdown due to underage drinking/drugging and fights being common there).

The man who disappeared was named Lelle Hildebrand, and he was the manager for the metal band Manowar.
The night Manowar played a show at Kartago, their manager Lelle was seen leaving the club with a briefcase (which was reported to have contained 17.500 dollars).

The last time someone saw him was just outside the club at around 21.00 after having been dropped off back there.

No one has heard of or seen him since.
Some witnessess also calimed to have heard gunshots outside of the club, but no bullet or body was ever found.

The case has no wiki, but has remained open since January 1999.
Here's a Swedish article about it:
http://www.expressen.se/kvp/lelle-hildebrands-dod-utreds-igen---efter-14-ar/
And here's a Swedish forum discussing the disappearance:
https://www.flashback.org/t163753
the thread on the forum has not been active for many years sadly.
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>>15162330
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams
love that one
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>>15161534
>he ordered two strong drinks while on the flight. Sorry but this is implausible. Unless you have a liver of steel you don't function properly after two glasses of liquor.
For most people, two glasses of hard liquor is only enough for a light buzz.
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>>15163203
a dud
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>>15161596

Wow, and now, with your GREAT powers of deduction, could you possibly conjure up some sort of proof ?

Because I believe even captain asshat has been there, at that EXACT trail of thoughts in a heartbeat, but without any solid evidence to support the claim... jut like in so many cases that happen on an everyday basis
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>>15164543
must resist.. not..post.. spurdo.. comics..
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>>15160439
One of my best friends in HS's mother disappeared for years without a trace. They eventually found her bones in a forest, next to a tree. The coroner, or whoever it was, said that there were no signs of foul play and it was as if she had just sat down next to the tree and died. Her purse was also found, with the only contents being a "World's Greatest Mother" badge that my friend had given her. I knew the family well, and knew quite a bit more about them than most people. I knew that my friend's step-grandfather, who was the dead woman's stepfather, molested my friend from a very young age, and continued to do it throughout the time we were friends
(Before anyone asks, why didnt I help her...blah blah blah, I tried repeatedly, as did several other people, but she would always vehemently deny it when any police or authority would try to get involved. This eventually ended our friendship, but that is neither here nor there)
I only naturally assumed that this bastard also did these things to his step daughter, my friend's dead mother. The grandmother knew he did these things, along with all of the other family members that I knew personally. None of them would ever speak up. They were a fucked up bunch, obviously.

I've tried to research her death myself, but have never been able to find any records, besides her tombstone. I was also led to believe that there was an actual Unsolved Mysteries episode including her story. Needless to say, this has always haunted me, and I think it always will.
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>>15162864
Exactly what I thought. Make me feel like an alcoholic
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>>15161596
But how do you explain the serial numbers on the money matching up?
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>>15166364
Yeah, they did find about $5,800 in 1980. If it was the crew, why would they toss a couple of grand out of the plane just in the off chance that someone found it? It's not much out of the total ransom, but it still makes no sense.
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>>15165140
This. Sounds like a great way to calm his nerves
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>>15161642
Could she have climbed there from a lower level? Perhaps the alarms just didn't go off.
Maybe she climbed inside because she knew it'd fuck with people.

There are a load of mundane possibilities because there are a lot of little specifics we don't know.
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>>15161675
>she didn't have schizophrenia, she was bipolar.
You don't know that. They often come hand in hand. People treat mental health very differently to the way they do physical.

A sane, lucid person doesn't act like she did in the lift
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>>15160439
Jack the Ripper. Doesn't get any higher in the echelons than that, they're still making movies and tv shows about him.
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>>15162564
There's something extra creepy about yours, I think it's the huge landmass people can go missing on
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>>15162597
>Assman
kek
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>>15166483
Exactly. You'd likely function better, not being so tense in that situation.
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>>15166583
And to help people go missing on. The US is covered with thousands and thousands of miles of inter-state highways, and the bulk of those highways run through absolutely nothing - empty desert, old forests, undeveloped plains, tundra, etc. The FBI thinks there are hundreds of active serial killers who hunt on those highways.
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>>15161070
>wonderful life
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>>15166609
>The FBI thinks there are hundreds of active serial killers who hunt on those highways.
For real? Source?
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>>15166609
http://www.texasobserver.org/highway-injustice/
>In 2004, the [FBI] launched its Highway Serial Killings initiative, creating a repository specifically for information about serial murders gleaned from law enforcement agencies nationwide. By 2009, the initiative had identified 600 victims and upwards of 275 suspects.

>The agency believes there are currently close to 300 “highway serial killers” like Rhoades at large in the U.S. Crisscrossing the nation in big rigs, they are unconfined by city, county and state boundaries. Because the cabs of their trucks are their killing fields, the chances of finding DNA evidence tying a particular truck to a body that’s been tossed out the door are next to none.
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>>15166804
>>15166801
For something a little more official -
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2009/april/highwayserial_040609
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>>15166804
Shame the Fourth Amendment is so important
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>>15166815
Not really. The FBI suspects as many as 300 active killers, out of more than 1.8 million active truck drivers. That puts it into a bit more perspective.
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I suppose the primary link that could be made to /x/ with Tupac's murder is that there are still those who insist it was a hit initiated in some way by the US government. Or, depending on who you ask, the Illuminati. People typically cite the title of the last album he completed before his death as evidence (The 7 Day Theory - The Don Killuminati) but Tupac actually made clear that the term "Killuminati" was intended to "kill" the idea that the "Illuminati" wanted him dead, as per this quote:

"Thats why i put the "k" to it, because the niggas is telling me about this Illuminati shit while i was in jail. Like the diamonds and all that. Thats another way to keep your self esteem low, that's another way to keep you unconfident. And I'm putting the "k" because I'm killing that Illuminati shit."
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>>15164543
>>15166095

Suomi Perkele!!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeM1L6F_m7I

Just found this clip of the aforementioned Tupac quote.
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>>15166848
What the fuck is it about Tupac that people come up with these grand conspiracies? Why would the government even give a shit about him?
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>>15161454
She was reported to be possibly Bi-polar.

A friend of mine who has the same disorder went off of his meds for a week and he was doing weird shit like talking to himself and waving his arms around similar to that seen in the video.
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>>15163145
>Lying in the straw, next to the bodies of her grandparents and mother, she had torn her hair out.

nope
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>>15166905

He was pretty active within the pro-black movement of the 90's, Nation of Islam, guys like Khalid Muhammed and the rest more or less respected him and saw him as someone who could actually reach black people beyond his music. A visionary in a sense.
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>>15161596
Also, wasn't the tank closed? Like, she just went in there and then fucking closed it?

I'm a believer that something odd happened to her, and someone else was definitely involved. Homicide police catch lots of murders, especially in large metropolitan areas, and a lot of the time they don't investigate them further because they want clearances by their name. Something that bizarre could take years to investigate and solve, and you'd have your major kicking your ass every day for looking at it.

Basically, I'm saying the police found no immediate evidence and slapped suicide on her file and moved on. Pretty sad how someone can die, and the people figuring out why give up and say fuck it so quickly.
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>>15167537
And to what end exactly? Fucking Snoop Dog (Lion?) did the exact same thing and he clearly isn't on a hit list.
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>>15162468
type in "murder" afterwards and you get the alleged killer

says according to his penal file he actually was apparently guilty of killing her.
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>>15163116
This is brilliant
>>15163112
I thought that these were the supposed notes
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>>15163112
"Don't worry, my killer will know what this means" - Ron Swanson
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Whoa whoa whoa. Wtf is dyatlovs pass
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>>15167827
Fucking seriously? Google it.
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>>15167844
Is it worth the read
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>>15166609
>>15166801
Yeah, the FBI estimates that there are something like 250 or more active serial killers in the country. See, the difficulty is identifying a pattern of bodies. I also believe there are lots of serial killers that don't just kill a certain way, so the murders appear different and an investigation into serial killings isn't launched.

It's just a logical conclusion. For all the serial killers you learn about, there are just as many more who aren't on any form of radar. They're never identified or investigated. Lots of the ones along that stretch are likely nomadic too, so the killings are spread over a larger geographical location.
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>>15167875
>Lots of the ones along that stretch are likely nomadic too, so the killings are spread over a larger geographical location.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Tears_murders
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>>15167847
yes
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>>15160439
finding this one is funny!
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Well this is one that has supposedly happened in several states, and one incident happened right where I live which caught my attention. (I live in Upstate New York), it has a lot of rumors going around with people around here every now and then. I'm not sure that it is 'god-tier', but it is pretty interesting. There isn't wikis on the individual cases around here, so I'll write about them.

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smiley_face_murder_theory

Supposedly, young men go missing, after a night out drinking and 'drown' while some believe it is actually a strategy of killing. Almost always there is no trace of them and near the supposed dumping site a smiley face is found. Now this is incredibly vague because many people accidentally drown and a smiley face that is graffiti'd isn't exactly a rare thing to see, but it has happened a lot.

>http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7148355

It's happened all over the United States. As a kid and even a teenager a lot of us go to the Hudson river or canals around here. There are bodies found in the Hudson near Albany a lot, some are suicides, some are people that go missing, etc. Lots of us are warned to stay away because of the current and sometimes you will see a smiley face near a bridge or on a tree. One recent case around here that had a lot of speculation is Josh Szostak, a guy in his 20s that just went missing after a night out with his friends.

>http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7147841

Here is a youtube video of the last time he was seen alive, with the timeline in the description.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK0i-dYLCNg

Elsewhere, Mike Philbin, son of a current Miami Dolphins head coach had a very similar death

>http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7657889/toxicology-reports-show-joe-philbin-son-drunk-time-death

This has happened a lot, not just these two select cases. Many people go missing around water or after a night of drinking. It is a bit out there, but I thought I would post it for interest.
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>>15167559
snoop dogg did the same thing?
tell me about that.
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>>15167932
Be active in the Pro-Black movement?
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tbh kurt cobains death for me was weird, i mean he wouldn't kill himself just like that and his suicide note is strange for those who know his life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Kurt_Cobain
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>>15166905
>>15167537
>>15167559
>>15167932
>>15167947
wasn't Tupac supposedly to be back in September this year or next or something like that?
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>>15160950
I'd never heard of that one either. Seems so very similar to Taman Shud, with the labels removed and the luggage at the public locker. The fact that her finger prints were sanded off, I mean that's not suicide, that's some international spy shit, right there.
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>>15161675
Bipolar disorder is pretty much schizophrenia with an off and on switch
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>>15167947
I think you're confusing popularity/notoriety with respectability in that movement. Tupac's mother was pregnant with him while in jail facing 150+ charges of conspiracy against the US government. His mother and father were active members of the Black Panthers.

Tupac's early work was almost exclusively politically and socially conscious rap. People mostly remember the album All Eyez On Me which he put out very quickly when he got out of prison in an effort to knock out two of the albums he was responsible for to Death Row and to make the money he needed for the ventures he cared about. The 7 Day Theory split time between taking aim at his rivals and returning to his socially conscious roots, as was the case with his posthumously released work. In his later days he was very clear about his intentions to move away from a primary career in rap and into political involvement.
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>>15168002
Huh. Okay, that's more involved that I thought. Consider me educated.
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>>15168003
Happy to help. He was definitely a person of interest to the government and such. Whether or not they had him killed is another matter entirely, of course. The way the East/West feud was going, they really only needed to sit back and watch if his death was their desire.
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>>15161701

>>15161675
the fact that she would have had to close the tank behind her, and no it wasn't a hot water tank, just water afaik. There was an autopsy done, and there were no drugs in her system.
>>15167991
Holy shit, you're an idiot and you shouldn't talk about shit you have no clue about. BiPolar is nothing like schizophrenia. Bipolar people don't hear voices and get weird delusions, they just have elevated moods.
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>>15167991
That's a special level of ignorance. Jesus.
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Anyone know the name of the story where there were a bunch of grizzly murders in a barn and farmhouse, and then signs that the killer lived in the house and tended the farm for many days after?
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>>15168117
Yep, it's been mentioned.

>>15163145
The second one.
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>>15165140
>>15166599
No. It's like how they don't let you drive after having a couple of drinks. That's why. You may feel fine, but your function is impaired.
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Anyone have anymore info on the Keddie murders? The wiki doesn't have much, it's kind of astonishing how little info it has. Going to check the references after dinner.

>>15168117
Hinterkaifeck Pic related
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>>15163203
Anyone got a link to a short version of the story?
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>>15162510
>http://imgur.com/a/T1k2V
>>15162510
>>15162510
HOly shit, dude.
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>>15168380
Yeah, that photo still gets to me. So fucked up.
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>>15162510
>>15168380
>>15168394
Under what context was the photo found?
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>>15168380
>>15168394
I'll tell you though, Regina was an 8/10 hottie for me

I kind of like the short haircut too wish she wasn't murdered lol
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>>15168414

It's a photo of Regina Walter's last moments.
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>>15161064
The fuck? The sherriff knows what happened, knows the people who did it and says he can't do anything without a body..? For one, you could at least try to build a case against these people and look for evidence, testimony, etc. instead of just sitting back. Second, if he knows who did the murders, no doubt he knows where the body is and CAN find it, or at least could've at an earlier date. Third, it sounds like he's covering for a friend or family, why else would you do so little to pursue something you have a good lead on? He really should be investigated. I'm surprised he hasn't recieved more attention.
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>>15168414
They caught the guy who did it. I'm pretty sure they found it in his truck.
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>>15168418
Is it though?

Where was the photo found?
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>>15168427
Ah. Fuck that's unsettling. I was hoping it was something as mundane as.

>"Smile"
>"Ugh, no I look awful today."
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>>15168432
I like how she's still sort of showing off her dress and heels

Like seriously, she looks hot
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>>15168440
The killer cut off her hair, and forced her to wear the dress, and heels before murdering her. The photo was taken in an abandoned barn near the road she was suspect to have disappeared, if I remember correctly.

To me she looks like she's been crying a lot. Her eyes are red, and swollen. Appears very out of it, and is backing away. Absolutely one of the most unsettling pictures I've ever seen.
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>>15168440
Not sure if 2edgy or doublevirgin or both. She's really not doing that. At all. The girl is fucking terrified, experiencing a fear you and I will likely never know. She's not "showing off" anything.
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>>15168455
Dude I'm just saying, if she was smiling a bit more she'd be a real cutie

Her killer had some real taste with that dress/heel combo, and QT short hair > pig disgusting long hair
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>>15161534
>no body was ever found, nor any trace of money,

Google Brian Ingram money.
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>>15166184
That's very sad :(
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>>15164704
I love how the senior Scotland Yard officer is stated at the end of that wiki as saying 'he probably just locked himself in the bag' when every witness up until that point stressed exactly the opposite. Clearly, the police were hiding something.
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>>15166391
I remember in the early 2000s, watching the news and seeing this little kid who found old money buried and it was believed to be from this incident.
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>>15167919
I wanted to acknowledge your post. I found it pretty interesting, but it just doesn't sound… realistic? We don't often see serial killers who drown people, it doesn't seem like the way you'd go about it if you really enjoy what you do. But the idea of just waiting around by a bar until someone goes to take a piss down by the river would be really effective. I just wish there were more evidence of an actual group doing this.

I mean what would be your motive for targeting young good-looking white male college students?
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>>15167975
I've always felt this way. The facts that stand out for me are
>The part of the suicide note that implies suicide is tacked on to the end and in different hand writing
>The private detective hired by Courtney Love herself is convinced she had something to do with it.
>No finger prints on the weapon or the heroin
>He was found in an odd part of the house no one goes in
>He was found by workers hired by Courtney
>He was planning on divorcing Courtney, had recently rejected the idea of doing a big show with Nirvana ( I think it was the 90s woodstock) and that pissed her off
>If you read his note it can be taken as his explanation for quitting the band
>That dude who died on the train tracks by his house the day after he gave that interview for the movie Kurt & Courtney
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>>15167975
>>15168534
More, please.
>>15167991
Wow, that's idiotic. As someone who was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder, and have known people with Schizophrenia, they are NOTHING alike. Don't talk about shit you know nothing about.
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>>15168534
>The shotgun, a Remington Model 11 20-gauge, was not checked for fingerprints until May 6, 1994. According to the Fingerprint Analysis Report, four latent prints were lifted but contained no legible prints.

Taken from the wiki.
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>>15167991
God, you sound like one of those uneducated Tumblr bloggers who self diagnose for your special-snowflake cred.

Contributing two of my favourites.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villisca_Axe_Murders

and the classic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Dahlia
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>>15161497
>tfw aliens come down to Earth just to dose you
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>>15161534
>>this supposed mastermind criminal jumped out of a plane with a chute he hadn't tested into tempestuous bad weather at a higher altitude than is usually jumped from
>>Sorry but this is implausible. Unless you have a liver of steel you don't function properly after two glasses of liquor.
He was a big guy.
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>>15167875
I agree.

If I were a killer, I would make sure to do it randomly and dump them in places people don't look.
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>>15168462
You sound like a kidnapper/murderer, there yourself.
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>>15168517
Police cover up a lot of stuff.

Especially with not very well known cases.
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>>15168652
For you
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>>15168519
Some people have no motive.
Or they just hate them.
Who knows?

Not all killers are messy.
I know a few who like to drown people, it's not that uncommon.
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>>15168514
It is. I've tried to find the episode of Unsolved Mysteries about her mom, but I've never been able to track it down. The old bastard finally died a few years back. I saw her post about it on shitbook. It pissed me off that she was upset about it, the man who molested every girl in her family, for 3 generations, if not more, and was most likely responsible for the death of her mother.
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>>15168534
>>That dude who died on the train tracks by his house the day after he gave that interview for the movie Kurt & Courtney

That dude was Eldon Hoke. He was pushed onto the tracks, by the same dude that killed Kurt, Allen Wrench. Courtney asked Eldon (ElDuce of the Mentors) to do it and he told her to fuck off, but he knew someone who might. Enter Allen Wrench, bassist for a couple bands, and friends with ElDuce. He told Allen about it, Allen took the money, killed Kurt, and then found out that ElDuce had let it slip (on that vidoe you're talking about, if you know what to watch for) that Allen did it. Allen came looking for ElDuce, his room mate told him Duce was drinking on the tracks, he went there, they got into it, and Allen pushed Duce in front of the train.
As far fetched as it sounds, I know people that lived in Riverside, that were friends with ElDuce, and they have confirmed this shit. They said everyone knows he did it, it's just that nobody will come forward because of what happend to Eldon. Worst part is, Eldon was a jam up dude. One of the best people you could know, he just got drunk and accidentally said something he shouldnt have and fuckface Wrench killed him for it. I'm more upset that he killed Eldon that Kurt.

I shit you not.
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>>15168455
IIRC her eyes look a bit fucked up because the killer put her makeup on himself.
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>>15161642
ok if i was elisa, i would probably go about climbing that ladder on the building next to the tanks and then lowering myself in, not at all hard to get into the tanks...getting to the roof though...maybe it was a one in a million chance that the door was unlocked and the alarm didn't sound, i mean after all, the hotel is known to be sleazy, so maybe a employee went up there to have a smoke, and forgot to lock the door again?
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>>15160439

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaz_II
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>>15169763
Are you sure she was genuinely upset and not acting that way for friends who didn't know any better?
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>>15169799
Wish there was more info on this Allen guy. I only ever saw the documentary once a long time ago. Also, if everyone in that place knew he did it, why not make an anonymous report about it?
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>>15161534
Ive had alot more then 2 strong drinks on an airplane before buddy...let me tell you.

I was fine.
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>>15162650
Corpses bloat after being submerged in water for an extended ammount of time. It would not fit through the same hole it entered when she was alive.
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>>15163145
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Gosch
this is just stupid. obviously if the mother wasnt so headstrong about publicity and making shit up then MAYBE something woud have gotten done, it also make me think that maybe she is involved as well, it says nothing about her being a suspect, and its obvious pretty early on in the article that she is making shit up
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>>15162347
>not leave clues

Mail letters, taunted police, made phone calls puzzles which have not been solves, desk carvings, zodiac watches, etc.

U for real?
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>>15161534
$5800 was found
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>>15169662
Links to serial killers who drown people please?
>>15169763
Sounds a lot like the dude in a documentary that was posted here once. Guy kept marrying women who had girl children and seriously molesting all of them, so it was just this big super fucked up white trash family. When the guy died some of the women showed up to his funeral trashed and just talked all this shit about how glad they were the sick fuck was dead. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
>>15169799
Yeah, this all lines up with what I heard. ElDuce did seem like a cool dude. Super suspicious that a guy who gets drunk like every day should just happen to get drunk and die right behind his house not he train tracks. Super sketch. I'll have to watch the interview again. But who pilled the beans about the interview? It had only been the day after that he died.
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>>15171092
>ElDuce
Link to the interview?
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>>15171166
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaz_II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho2nK5IQs_g
>>15170647
That's a pretty cool story. The official explanation makes sense, but it kills the mystery. You'd think the guys would be smarter than to try and untangle that line when the sails are still up.
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>>15171179
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho2nK5IQs_g
>I told Allen, I mean my friend
Aw, that poor man.
But who spilled the beans about the interview before it was even out?
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>>15169799
Any more infer on this Allen Wrench guy? I google him and all that comes up is tools.
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>>15171216
Did you try Jack Hammer?
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>>15171216
>>15171244
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>>15171216
A little google fu and I came up with some kind of linked-in like site with a profile on his. Most recent info was a press release from 2006 saying he got out of rehab only to find out he'd been booted from his place as CEO of something, like a death metal label or just the band.

I can't believe so many people know what happened and this dude is just going to get away with it.
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>>15163116
>do the same, only with a decodable message
>the message will be [spoiler]Drink More Ovaltine[/spoiler]
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>>15161064
This is the best D.B. Cooper theory.
I'm actually sort of starting to believe it.
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>>15171721
Could be, I see no reason why this couldn't be true. Even if it's far-fetched.
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>>15160439
who put bella in the witch elm?
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>>15161064
vigilant citizen" you dont want anyone to take you seriously, do you?
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>>15171916
Already been said, but I this is a pretty crazy story.
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>>15161534
"unless you have a liver of steel you don't function after TWO strong drinks"
I can deal with cops and come off as sober after far more than two drinks, sir. So, I would have to disagree with this point. Hell, if you're an alcoholic you don't function until you've had two strong drinks.
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>>15161662
a stupid worked just fine, lol
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>>15160789
>>>/tumblr/
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>>15162461

Sounds like the father kind of hoped he woukd never return, unless he was actually foolish enough to allow schizophrenic son prone to disappearance to ride around the city on a bus by himself.
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>>15171961
>this new
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>>15161497
>green and purple lights
>green and purple
thanks for the reminder.
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The greatest unsolved mystery is when I lost my cat last night.

I miss you, Ninja!!
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>>15169799
someone archive thread
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>>15161064
>eliza lam
God i remember when they found her tumblr, she seemed so normal and then that shit happened.

Everyone was freaking the fuck out on /x/ when that happened
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>>15172297
It blows my mind that Kurt Cobain's death wasn't investigated further. Was no one suspicious enough at the time to do anything?
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>>15172334
Well he was well known for being depressed. He almost named one of Nirvana's albums "I hate myself and want to die", although it sort of seems to be kind of a joke. He also had an OD in PAris, I think, a few months before his death which at the time Courtney swore up and down was NOT a suicide attempt, but then of course after he died that's what she called it from then on.

Supposedly Courtney was also banging someone from the SPD, so who knows?
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>>15171179
Turn up the volume. Around the 2:56 mark, it sounds like a woman is screaming "Help us" from inside El Duce's house.
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>>15167975
Oh, you knew Kurt Cobain closely? Nobody else in Nirvana were "surprised" by Kurts suicide, he was a heroin addict for decades and the stress from going between a nobody on the streets to the biggest name in music over the course of like 4 years was too much for his H riddled brain to handle.
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>>15162510
>http://imgur.com/a/T1k2V
Do you have any more pics like this? Shit like this always fascinates me
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>>15172364
I listened. It wasn't loud enough for me to really hear what they were saying. A lot of people said it sounded like "Eldon" which is the guy's name.
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>>15172372
>heroin addict commits suicide
>the only logical explanation is that there was a conspiracy

Some people just want to deny the truth
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kurt cobain attained nirvana

it is staring you idiots in the face
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>>15172398
>>15172372
>Guy is dead
>We only need this one fact about his life to determine what happened here.
Either read into it and address some of the points that have been brought up, or GTFO. You're worse than fucking cops. Go meet your boys at Chili's and let us talk about /x/ shit.
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>>15172372
I want to know why people accused Courtney of killing him. I've heard millions of things, but nothing that sounded realistic. Did she get a buttload of money after he died? Or did that belong to their daughter? I'm not even sure, but I'm curious.
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>ctrl+f "Benjaman Kyle"
>0 of 0

This case intrigues the shit out of me; anyone have any theories as to what happened or any ideas?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjaman_Kyle
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>>15172413
Yes, everything went to her (including 50% of everything Nirvana does). There were rumors that Kurt had been talking to lawyers about divorce. And the Detective COURTNEY hired to "investigate" kurt's death (so Courtney didn't think it was suicide) slowly became convinced she did it. Everyone from her own father to her band mates talked about what a violent sociopath she was. Even her own daughter hates her.
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>>15166557
this
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>>15168424
in that little shithole hick town and he can't vigilante justice him some jock pricks?
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>>15172435
Yeah I heard her own father thought she had something to do with it. I know she lost custody of her daughter, and I know she hates her. I also read that Frances admitted that Courtney would kill their pets. Pretty freaky.
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>>15166848
>>15166905
>>15167537
>>15167982
I swear, Tupac's death is the shittiest conspiracy theory ever. Why is it even discussed?
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>>15172451
Damn, I hadn't heard that
http://gawker.com/5881652/frances-bean-cobain-says-courtney-love-killed-her-pets
What a cunt. You should check out Frances' Twitter. She's so beautiful, she' bleaches her hair blonde now, but she's so much prettier than her mom ever was, and she has her dad's deep blue eyes.
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>>15172499
>>15172451
LOL Also Frances' dog's name is Uncle Fester.
She's based
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>>15168304
who we looking at here?
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>>15168432
it was in his house, but close enough

dude kept bloody towels and all kinds of fucked up mementoes.
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>>15162795
Eh. I've retrieved bodies from water before.. Days after death. Weeks after death and months after. We use trash bags and a stokes litter usually. Do have to be somewhat careful...
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>>15168461
doublevirgin,
probably also forgot this is a 14 year old GIRL that has probably been raped and tortured at this poin.
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>>15172490
Because he spoke and rapped about love and peace. Wrote poetry about love and struggle. That doesn't fit the white man power structure. That picture if shit and your tiny white weiner feels inferior.
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>>15168461
I'm not edgy or whatever the fuck doublevirgin is, but I really see nothing like what you're implying
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>>15172525
It's one of the Hinterkaifeck victims. This is another photo from Hinterkaifeck
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>>15172581
That's very apparent. I'm going with autistic rather than sociopath. Possibly, stupid horny teenager. Are you a teenager?
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>>15172639
I don't understand how they couldn't have been afraid. They knew about the footprints, the mysterious newspaper, the noises they heard. Or did they believe their old maid who said the place was haunted? Did the cops even ask her questions? Or if she saw anybody?

I'm just saying, if I saw footsteps leading to my house and heard noises I'd at least investigate or call the cops or something. Seems like if someone took action they wouldn't have died.
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>>15172639
Ah, well I had figured out that much. I was asking which particular victim it is...
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>>15166809
>The suspects are predominantly long-haul truck drivers.
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>>15172654
Well I guess the father had just been kind of puzzled by the prints and the paper and mentioned it to the mail man. Maybe the maid was the only one who heard the noises? This kind of area your neighbor is a few kilometers away so no one would have seen or heard anything. But they noticed that all the animals on the farm had been fed since the family stopped showing up to school and church and stuff. The bodies were a few days old by the time they found them. Who knows even if they found the original maid afterwards. It was right after this that WWII broke out so the skulls were lost and probably most of the records on the case too.
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>>15166804
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DED812HKWyM
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>>15163308

Where in PA? I live in northeastern PA and that kid looks familiar. I'm serious
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>>15161588
>they don't wig the fuck out and wander into 8 foot tall water tanks. they just have odd mood fluctuations and occasional paranoid delusions.
Well, bipolar people do, in fact, wig the fuck out and maybe her wigging out manifested itself by her crawling into a water tank for a strange suicide.

I think someone else had to be involved, but I also don't think she was in a good mental state from that video.
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>>15163846
Makes no sense as to why he would kill the sleeping maid and baby though.
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>>15172803
Well the baby was a well known product of incest between the suspect's wife and her father. So yeah, you have to kill the incest baby. And who do you think was taking care of the baby?
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Does Natalee Halloway count?
I'm a bit lacking on the details, but was her body ever found?
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>>15172812
They never did find her body, but the last dude to see her alive was recently arrested in Peru or something and accused by a woman of beating her up or some shit. I don't know if he's still in jail.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=natalee+holloway+body+found&id=D5781EA4703D478DA050E330EEB67C76EDB37E74&FORM=IARRTH#view=detail&id=D5781EA4703D478DA050E330EEB67C76EDB37E74&selectedIndex=0

This is supposedly a picture of a body spotted by some people scuba diving in Aruba. Some think it might be her.
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>>15172826
Did some googling, apparently, Joran wanted to fuck her but she refused, so he gropes her and she smacked him. Then, he beat her, strangled her to near death, and left her in a sandy ditch where she died. Then he took her corpse, and put it in a casket that was preppes for burial.

But with all the shit Joran's been confessing to, its anyones guess.
What puzzles me is why the Aruba government didn't look into Joran's claim of selling her.
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>>15171961
haha tumblr?
what?
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>>15172890
Well apparently Joran has said in an interview that his dad was wealthy and influential enough to pay off cops and judges and shit. I was just reading about the woman he murdered in Peru. I guess she had just won over $10k at the casino and he might have been just trying to rob her. They also think she accessed his computer while he was out of the room and found stuff about the Halloway case. I guess this chick was murdered 5 years to the day after Halloway went missing, maybe he had been reminiscing and she saw his google searches.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joran_van_der_Sloot#Death_of_Stephany_Flores
I guess after he serves his 28 years for murder in Peru he's supposed to be extradited to the US to face extortion charges for taking money from Halloway's mom in exchange for knowledge the the whereabouts of Natalee's body which he never gave up. BUT he's impregnated his Peruvian GF, and apparently if he has a Peruvian baby he can be granted citizenship and then they can't extradite him. The guy does a lot of legal research after the fact.
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>>15172428
He did an AMA on reddit where someone thought they knew who he was. He totally ignored the question and some have speculated that either he's lying about not knowing who he is or he actually doesn't want to find out because he enjoys all the attention.
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>>15172776
Not all of them, no.
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>>15162864

Your body reacts differently to drugs and psychoactives while you are at high altitude, so two glasses of hard liquor on a plane will hit you like a ton of bricks
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>>15172334
"It blows my mind that Kurt Cobain..."
Fuck, laughed more than I should have.
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>>15168167
Oh shut the fuck up. Just remove the two drink minimum from your super sleuthing and move on.

>Watch out this guy's had two Redds Apple Ales!
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>>15168428
Is this the "Welcome to /x/!" thread? Every single one of these has been discussed at length. Which is fine, always interested in the classics, but the fact this whole thread has been a couple poor bastards catching everyone up on the basics is tiring.
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>>15168440
>>15170677
>>15172581
... painful, like a constant flicking of my freshly shaved balls.
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>>15171092
Fucked up documentary is called "Just Melvin, Just Evil"
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>>15173297
maybe he doesn't want to actually know his past not because of the attention but maybe he's afraid or wants to let things lie
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>>15173976
Maybe. But then why would he market himself as 'the man who doesn't remember who he is'?
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>>15173576
Nobody said you hate to read it or like it.
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>>15174109
had*
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>>15163308
>>15172762
Makes sense, his last name being Pensyl and all.
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>>15162461
>He was dropped off at Monkey Junction on 05/17/2012 and hasn't been seen since.
>dropped off at Monkey Junction
>Monkey Junction
>mfw
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>>15164535
I'd base it off of the legs - they're in poor display shape for a chick who wears dresses or skirts. Also, the metatarsals of her left foot are evident above the toe of the shoe. A woman might choose shoes that fit better.

I'm not saying it isn't a woman, but, I would entertain the possibility that there are some cross-dresser like "mistakes" here.
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>>15171721
Is it really?

Tommy Wiseau is really weird about his past. Almost to the "axe murderer" point.

This is actually kind of a cool theory.

Guy makes off with a ton of fucking cash in an obscure airplane hijacking with an unclear ending, goes on to make shitty movies and documentaries years later with said money.
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>>15171721
Then again, I always really hoped D.B. survived the jump. He just seems like a cool, chill criminal.
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>>15172428
It's my belief that Courtney Love doesn't even need a fucking logical reason, because practically everyone around her considers her to be some sort of super psychotic drug fueled harpy.
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>>15174176
She didn't choose the dress or the shoes

Read the fucking wiki page
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Have there ever been any stories where the owner of a house has died naturally and then, when officials came in to deal with their death, it uncovered they'd been hiding captives/corpses?
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>>15160439

I wonder if /x/ could crack a case if they all put their mind to it together
Many incredible things have been done in the past by the 4chan community
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>>15173559
Redds Apple Ale is not a strong drink. You're not thinking straight. Maybe you've had two strong drinks?
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>>15172242
Well of course you're not just going to stumble across a fucking ninja cat.
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>>15172334
>blows your mind
Kek
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>>15160439

so any more god tier mysteries?
we're getting carried away
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>>15161565
>>15161642

My pet theory: The alarm was never on, the door was unlocked and there was a ladder leading right up to top of the tank. After a few reports of nasty water the manger of the hotel goes to check the water tank and sees a bloated body floating in it, he freaks out and realizes that he could be in for a world of legal shit. A: all his patrons have been drinking contaminated water B: the unlocked door and leaving a ladder there could be considered criminal negligence (or some other charge, not a lawyer)
He realizes he can't dispose of the body but he can pretend he had properly secured the area and this was some mysterious freak accident, so he removes the ladder, locks the door behind him and turns on the alarm THEN reports it.
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>>15172697
Is there a chat site that you use often?
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this is a cool thread and i like to read the words in it.
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>>15176477
This guys got it
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>>15162650
This >>15162795

Hole was cut in the side or the bottom.
Come on man think.
You shouldnt be on /x/ if you are this bad at deduction.
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>>15167677
practically every line ends with an E.
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>>15172428
>>15173297
Maybe, out of all the questions, he just didn't see it?
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>>15173297
My research shows his last name is powell.
2spooky, so is mine.
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>>15162461
>completed a year at cape fear community college
>cape fear
>schizophrenia

Was obviously raped by Robert de Niro
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>>15161497
Thanks doc
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>>15166557
I've never been crazy about Jack the Ripper because it was fucking eons ago. There were no real investigative techniques back then, anybody who wanted to pull that kind of shit in those days could get away with it if they were half smart.
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>>15167919
I'm a fan of the Smiley Face Murder theory, not because I really think it's true, moreso because it's just SO fucking creepy if it IS true.
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>>15160439
Elizabeth Short, the Black Dahlia.

Short's severely mutilated body was severed at the waist and completely drained of blood. Not only was the body bloodless, but her body had been obviously washed by the killer as well. Her face had been slashed from the corners of her mouth toward her ears, creating an effect called the Glasgow smile. Short also had multiple cuts on her thigh and breasts, where entire portions of flesh had been removed. Her lower half was positioned a foot away from her torso, and the intestines were tucked neatly under the buttocks. The body had been "posed" with her hands over her head, her elbows bent at right angles, and her legs spread. Near the body, detectives found a cement sack which contained droplets of watery blood, as well as a heel print on the ground amidst tire tracks.
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bumpo
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>>15178167
Ice truck killer confirmed
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This isn't really "unsolved" per se, people pretty much know what happened... But it's kinda fucked that this could happen anywhere, even a major city, and millions of people would just be completely fucked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event
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>>15176773
>>15167677
it bothers me that nobody can solve this.
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>>15178296
I once read an analysis that pointed out that the event occurred at a 'safe' period in human history. The author argued that, had the exact same event occurred during the Cold War, it could have been misinterpreted as a misdirected ICBM launched by the US.

IMHO, they had a very good point. At a time when Cold War paranoia was at its highest, ICBM technology was in its infancy, and, most importantly, the impact dynamics of comets/asteroids were very poorly understood, the brilliant fireball and enormous blast could have easily been mistaken for a nuclear attack.

Also, I don't know if you saw the documentary on the Chelyabinsk impact, but it is an amazing/alarming/beautiful/terrifying thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28l9vm2Mvd4
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>>15176257
Nah. Fucking genetic science has sucked all the mystery our of murder. Serial killing is a mug's game nowadays.
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>>15164465
>Radiation

According to various experts the radiation was minor surface contamination and probably from Lyudmila Dubanina’s coat. It was probably from a laboratory environment (Radium, Radon and Potassium) and not from any recent weapons use. A point has been made that prior to the moratorium on atomic weapons testing a fair number of detonations had been carried out in Russia and in other parts of the world. Again, it was not uncommon that small amounts of “fall-out” might be spread far and wide.

As for everything else Dyatlov Pass
>Hypothermia
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>>15168519
It's a pretty known fact that many killers are killers due to trauma in the past. If said killer had an experience in which someone on his family drowned and it changed him forever, then his motive for drowning really isn't that unexplainable. The smiley face on the other hand, I have no idea. Maybe a mental illness.
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>>15178815

just some soldiers got hungry, not a mystery
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>>15178815
more references?
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Project "Slava" (Glory) in Tsarichina.
Number of mysterious deaths+suicides: Classified.

Long story short: In search of a burial chamber of a Medieval King, the scientists start picking up radiation and such. They call in some clairvoyants and they say that there is alien activity down there. The archaeological dig was transformed into a fortress and the military went pro on digging inside. Clairvoyants were accompanying the dig.

Results: Mysterious death started occurring, equipment started malfunctioning and clairvoyants started suiciding.

After some deaths, some of which were family members of government officials, the project was suddenly labeled "not worth the investment" and the excavation was sealed, Chernobyl style.
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>>15162347
>serial killer kills people
>leaves no evidence
>doesn't get caught
>mails evidence to journalist/police to taunt them
>still doesn't get caught
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>>15168519
female killer doing it for money/wallets. think wuornos, but going after what she'd see as date-raping fratboys instead of hooker-raping johns.
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>>15174176
she was dressed by a man. those are clothes a man would pick for a woman, not clothing a woman would wear. so you're right about this in a sense.
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>>15179784
>It became famous in the early 1990s, when the Bulgarian military began digs in the centre of the village.The digs were initially in search of a purported hidden treasure of King Samuil. The project's aim changed because a woman received signals from aliens that the world's first "intelligent" creature was buried under Tsarichina. Even Baba Vanga confirmed that "down there is a creature... not a man, not a woman, "a yellow monkey"... why do you need it?". During the digging of the tunnel leading to the creature, aliens sent messages to the woman that they were coming to see the work that was being done. They also said that there were apparently highly-advanced Bulgarians living around the universe. In addition, at least one UFO was encountered and mass witnessed by army personnel and villagers during the course of the digs.
>highly advanced Bulgarians living around the universe

>Bulgarians
>highly advanced

One "highly advanced" Bulgarian would equal one normal european.
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>>15180484
The person who claimed it, suicided shortly after. Your point? Also, how many WE coutries sent people into space?

Captcha related: 101
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>>15178524
Fuck man thanks for the share, I had forgotten about that impact.
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>>15180484
dat filename
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April Tinsley murderer

>Girl goes to visit friends house
>Goes missing and eventually found dead
>Graffiti claiming responsibility appears on an old barn
>No clues to killer's identity for years or new murders
>Suddenly plastic ziplocks containing letter, naked photos of a man, and semen samples are found in places such as a little girl's bike basket
>Letter claims the person is the April Tinsley killer and he's been stalking her
>Semen samples match
>Still nothing found to killer's identity

This story always hits me when I read about it. I hope they catch this fucker.
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>>15181051
My bad.

http://www.fwpd.org/april/press.htm
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>>15180972
Welcome to 4chan, newfriend.
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>>15169799
http://vblah.tripod.com/allenwrench.html
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>>15171216
see >>15181311
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>>15165219
Not to the degree that doing what DB Cooper allegedly did was impossible, or even improbable. If anything, having a few drinks before doing something like that would make it easier (on your nerves, anyways).
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>>15160439

bump cuz I'll be sad when this thread dies
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>>15179784
>>15180484

there's barely any reference on the internets apart from the thread quoted here
fake story is fake
>>
We've all heard these before, so aren't there more obscure ones any of you know of, /x/philes?
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>>15182897
So, if it's not on the internet, it's fake?

What a stupid way of thinking.
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>>15173997
good point
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>>15160439

I remember hearing a story of a bus being found stopped on a road (I think it was close to the shore), and all of its passengers were gone and never seen again.

Anyone knows what I'm talking about? Any reference?
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>>15183084

I think I saw it in one of these crappy "top 10 mysteries" videos on youtube
then again, my memory could be playing tricks on me

also, dunno if its real
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>>15182897
http://apocalisselaica.net/en/varie/miti-misteri-e-poteri-occulti/il-caso-tsarichina
Here's one. Actually there are close to no articles on it.

The case was covered up. Like I said, number of deaths: Classified.

People who tried to pry in it, suddenly lost their jobs and such. There is close to no material published about it, safe for 1-2 books in Bulgarian, 2-3 journalistic researches, and like 50 articles from newspapers, which cover the beginning of the project, since it was big news at the time. But since relatives of government higher ups died in mysterious ways, and people believed aliyums were involved, everything was covered up.
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>>15183121
Exactly why I said that just because there is little to nothing on the internet doesn't equal it's fake.
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>>15183228
obvious shop is obvious
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>>15183084
anyone?
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>>15178815
Pointless creepypasta, picture is from a camp of two russkies that were found by finns. The two had resorted to cannibalism after having either deserted or become lost from their unit (can't remember which). Pictured is what is left of the third russky.
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>>15183228
http://www.snopes.com/photos/gruesome/halloween.asp
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