Was the NEC PC-FX 5th gen or 4th gen?

It was a 4th-gen console marketed as a 5th-gen one. Kinda like the Wii of its day. It was supposed to come out a bit earlier than it ended up being (I think around 1991 or '92), but the PC Engine was still doing strongly in those days.

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>>2946670
who cares post ecchi games.

Unless you consider the PC Engine to be 3rd generation, the PC-FX is 5th gen.

>>2946834
>one company can't have two consoles in the same gen

Why? Dreamcast would be 5th if the Saturn didn't exist.

>>2946841
Because the PC Engine was released before the Genesis and SNES. while the PC-FX was released after the Saturn and PlayStation.

>>2946834
The Supergrafx was NEC's second generation console.

5th,it was released to compete with the Playstation and Saturn.

I don't know what NEC was smoking when they made this turd. Let's go from a kick ass system like the PCE to this shitbox that pretty much only appeals to pedophiles. Literally would rather have a Cd-i.

>>2946760

Generations have nothing to do with hardware power.

>>2947161
Where's the pedophile appeal of the PC-FX? Most people wouldn't buy a console just for Chip Chan Kick.

>>2946670
>Zork
That is the remake of Original Zork?
I

>>2946762

I actually have a copy of that. Not a bad game honestly.

>>2947179
>>2947161
Nomalfags => anime => pedo

>>2946841
Where did this "Dreamcast was really 5th gen" meme come from all of a sudden? Its graphical capabilities were clearly closer to 6th gen systems than 5th gen, and it also had built-in online capabilities, another 6th gen feature (I'm aware that there were earlier experiments with online features on consoles, but to be honest I'm not really knowledgeable of the details of those).

>>2947563
N64-DD and Saturn had networking capability before Dreamcast.

>>2947565
Fair enough, but I still think the graphical capabilities of the Dreamcast alone make it 6th gen rather than 5th gen, unless you have a different definition of "gen".

>>2947573
Dreamcast had:
>one analog stick, as opposed to 2 that PS2/Xbox/Cube had
>only standard definition resolutions, no widescreen option
>CD-ROM instead of DVD-ROM
>low VRAM compared to gen6 systems, and lower specs in general
>a library consisting of mostly PSX/N64 multiplats, not PS2/Xbox/Cube multiplats
>Xbox as its intended successor, according to Sega

It's a retro Gen V system, meant to take the place of Saturn, but not compete with the next gen, rather the current gen it was released in.

>>2947586
DC was 480p. It had more 480p games than the ps2.

>>2947595
No Dreamcast was 640x480, not 858x480p.

>>2947595
PS2 could go up to 1080p. It ain't retro, bub.

>>2947597
So not widescreen but still the same progressive scan resolution. Gens are dumb anyway.

>>2947601
I think you mean 1080i. There are no ps2 games that run 1080p. Also Im not arguing that the ps2 is retro. Not everything has to be a gen war.

>>2947605
By his logic N64 is a gen 6 system because games running on the Expansion Pak could output 640x480 like the Dreamcast.

>>2947586
>one analog stick, as opposed to 2 that PS2/Xbox/Cube had

The Dualshock had two analog sticks, that doesn't mean the PSX was a different gen than the N64.

>CD-ROM instead of DVD-ROM
And the N64 used cartridges instead of CD-ROM.

>low VRAM compared to gen6 systems, and lower specs in general
But clearly higher than the 5th gen systems. Shenmue could easily have been mistaken for a PS2 or Xbox game.

>a library consisting of mostly PSX/N64 multiplats, not PS2/Xbox/Cube multiplats
Hardly the fault of the Dreamcast, it got discontinued before before the Cube and Xbox launched. But it could have received their multiplats had it kept living.

Ultimately I don't think there's any objective truth to the matter of whether it's "really" 5th or 6th gen. The most I will defend is that the Dreamcast could have kept being produced as-is throughout the lifespan of PS2/Xbox/Gamecube and it would not have looked under-powered or less advanced than its competition, whereas the N64/PSX/Saturn were clearly outmoded by the new systems.

>>2947608
too bad the only one thats worth a shit was Gran Turismo 4 and Xbox did a few more games in 1080i and many in 720p 16:9.
>>2947595
/end
PS2 is an overhyped 480i DVD player that had no games till a year after its release

>>2947634
Well in case you didn't notice, it's not a year after the PS2's release, it's a decade after its death (in most countries), and it has a legendary library full of amazing games.

We can't talk about that library here because it's not retro! But I assure you, it's a good library.

Now that the dust has settled, we can all agree that Dreamcast > Gamecube > Xbox > PS2, right?

http://dreamcast-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4605

>mfw the N64 has more widescreen games than the Dreamcast

Now that's a laugh

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can this go back to being a PCFX thread now?
>>2946670
Power Dolls FX trpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cpcOSibiWE

>>2947664
Nope the buttmad Sonygger is too busy derailing every thread on /vr/.

>>2947639
it'd be better if they were developed with using its potential because the Xbox and GC could pull out 480p and 16:9 easy and many DC games can do 480p. A good chunk of that library is better played on another system. Sure it had a good JRPG library but thats really it.
>>2947652
DC & Xbox>GC>PS2
close enough though

>>2947679
Yea, but it's SD 480p, which looks like shit stretched on 16:9 monitors.

>>2947704
what are you talking DC or Xbox because Xbox does HD and i'm sure that games aren't up scaled to 720p or 1080i.
Definitely for DC since its an older system and does 640x480 and yeah it would but i know there are fanhacks/cheats to make certain games Widescreen.

>>2947715
The DC. I'm actually shocked people consider it gen 6, since it's lacking so many things that gen 6 had by default.

>>2947745
yeah then i agree then it does look shitty stretched and its in that grey area so its up to you.

>>2946841
Are you retarded?

"generations" are completely arbitrary bullshit that only make sense with regards to major game companies releasing competitive consoles around the same time as each other.

>>2947778
That's why /vr/ goes by a date instead of gens. And it's why PS2 and Xbox will NEVER EVER be allowed here.

>>2947745
That's always been the way of it. Some people consider it the end of the 5th while others consider it the start of the 6th. The compromise has always been 5th and a half gen which is how it wound up here. The screwy generations scheme messing it up for everyone as usual.

>>2947797
And yet a dreamcast game released in 2001 is retro while the PC version of that exact same game is not.

>>2947664
Sure!

Is there literally any game that's not a VN on the PC-FX?

>>2947664
This was never a PC-FX thread. The OP established that it was meant to be a generations thread. It just happened to mention the PC-FX as well.

>>2947805
pc games don't go by platform release date, so what can you do?

either accept the rules or gtfo

>>2947819
Hijacking this to say PC isn't judged by the same rule as consoles because it may technically be possible to get any number of modern games at least running on a pre-2000 rig.

>screenshot of Fallout 4 running on Win98
>Fallout 4 now retro

>>2947819
you are aware that rules change over time and are not permanent set in stone, right?

>>2947837
SOMEONE CARVE THE RULES INTO A STONE TO SHUT THESE 6TH GEN FAGGOTS UP.

>>2947837
yep. and until/if the rules are changed, you're NEVER EVER allowed to discuss ps2 and xbox here.

AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAA

>>2947163
Maybe so, but you'll be an idiot if you really think the Wii (or to go to another extreme, the Zeebo) was equivalent to the PS3 and Xbox 360.

>>2947851
just like dreamcast will never ever be allowed?

>>2947878
dreamcast is pre-cutoff, there was no reason it got deleted in the first place because it's not breaking the rules

keep whining though, your tears are delicious

>>2947745
It came out two years after the N64 too.

>>2947887
circular logic

>>2947868

In what way other than hardware would it not been gen 7? The gimmick? So then why would it be gen 6 with the gimmick? Wouldn't it just not even be in a generation?

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Bullies pls go.

Us gen 6 kids will own this board soon enough! PS2 is retro!

>>2946762
What game?

>>2947565
Don't forget Mega Net and X-Band.

>>2947809
There's only a few real adventures on the thing. Most is simulation games or similar.

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>>2948208
chip chan kick!
she was also in a few other lewd pc games by cybertech custom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hh7gVRXzAU

>>2946762
>Chip
>Age: 6
>Chap
>Age: 6

>>2946670
It was whatever gen some faggot who couldn't understanding electronics decided to call it.

>>2948590
Delicious.

>>2946762
I love Koorogi Satomi