>>2940316 After a certain point a lot of rhythm games banked on using some sort of peripheral to play instead of a normal controller and I guess they just didn't feel it would be profitable to make a new one.
>>2940316 Has NanaOn-Sga done anything of note lately? I know Vib-Ribbon finally was released in the US in 2014, and Sony has said they're "working on" a PS4 version, but haven't said anything since then.
>>2940325 >stay after school and learn to play an actual instrument instead. Rhythm games and playing instruments are two totally different experiences. Especially if its like Parappa the Rappa, Osu or Rhythm Heaven and not a plastic instrument game.
>>2941029 >I don't get why people always pick on these two series when DDR was the true death of music games. Guitar Hero clones and sequels saturated the market for a while and turned everyone off of the concept after a while thanks to the being overexposed to them and the price of all the accessories. It kind of killed the ability for rhythm games to do well in the western console market.
They're still around and doing well but most are released with Japanese arcades in mind.
>>2941029 DDR was great because it was halfway between an exercise and a game.
>No, it doesn't teach you to dance. It makes you look like an idiot.
You are a moron if you try learning to dance via DDR. And everyone playing the game looks like an idiot, even the people doing good, which is the whole point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDjBukBloW4
Of course this doesn't happen anymore with arcades being dead outside japan, and playing it alone at home is really stupid other than for getting some exercise.
It's part of the reason why I liked that Kinect Star Wars game - on top of being so massively stupid of an idea that it kind of worked, it was also a group activity like that.
>>2941029 No one ever thought DDR teaches you to dance, where the fuck did you get that idea? Also no one expected other rhythm games to be a 1:1 experience of actually playing an instrument. Doesn't mean these games can't be fun.
>>2941612 This. If anything a rhythm game can help you to maintain and recognize a certain tempo or time signature, but there's much much more to playing than that. Try learning to read tabs or traditional sheet music with Guitar Hero. Try figuring out the differences between keys, hell, the difference between a major and minor key.
>>2941918 I was going to retort about redundant gameplay in a rhythm game, but then I looked it up... >This game only uses four buttons! Also, games that let you Play Your Own Music are a huge red flag. Tracks mapped by algorithms are never as fun as professionally programmed tracks.
>>2941612 One highlight of playing Rhythm Heaven in college was that one of my friends had no rhythm to speak of, but then learned it through the game.
>>2941029 >DDR was the true death of music games. What I read is >I don't like DDR so it's bad How did DDR kill music games? DDR /made/ rhythm games. What were you playing before DDR? Surely you weren't playing 5K Beatmania, fuck off you retard.
>>2940316 I heard it was a stretch for the original creators to even make the PS2 entry, so by that point I'm surethey were REALLY done with Parappa.
Then Nana-On-Sha worked on Major Minor's Majestic March which people literally won't even make fun of it's so bad. My guess is because a rhythm game dependent on unspecific waggling controls probably sucks as bad as it sounds (plus it looked weird and without enough charm like Parappa)
I'm happy with what we got.
>>2940325 I swear that even though I have an aptitude for music I can't learn an actual instrument, mechanically it's not for me which is strange since I love Rhythm Action. After spending money on 7 instruments and having them collect dust I know for sure. If anything though, composing music is what I think my practical music outlet is, to me that shit's easy.
>>2942946 Don't make it sound like I bought them all at once. The most proficiency I ever had was with a keyboard, and bass guitar was coming along, but I still find all of them unnatural and unsatisfying for what I want. I also hate performing. Writing music fills that hole, though (in manuscript or a DAW doesn't matter). >>2942925 I do not know anyone who feels like any given Rhythm Game teaches them an instrument legitimately, the closest one to being able to do that might be the taiko drum master games but as a non-drummer I have no idea and even that's probably a stretch somehow.
>>2943725 They were exactly the same as modern rhythm games. Modern rhythm games just have a bit more content. Make a fucking Project DIVA-like Parappa/UJL game with a ton of extra content/custom content and every one of you fucking kids will go apeshit over it.
>>2942925 Wrong as fuck. Nobody who plays any sort of rhythm game genuinely believes that it's the same as playing a real instrument. Unless you're talking about people who play Rocksmith, which uses a real guitar.
>>2944257 Timing is strict as hell and there are absolutely no visual cues. I know /vr/ likes hard games but considering the type of public they were going for I think they should have made this game more casualized like Parappa, and made the default difficulty into hard mode. Just my 2cc.
>>2940325 I always thought this was kind of a stupid argument.
>pfff why play fighting games? just learn a real martial art >pfff why play platformers? just run around outside and jump over things >pfff why play first-person shooters? just join the military >pff why play racing games? just get a real car
>>2942370 DDR is actually horrible for cardio, because eventually you just learn to move your feet in the most efficient way possible, to the point that you're barely moving above the waist. It's not a full-body exercise like, say, Zumba.
>>2945721 Okay, buddy. What musical skills do you have? And playing an instrument? There are dozens of types and all it requires is practice. Hell, you can just play guitar which is the easiest instrument on the planet to play basic music with. There's literally nothing stopping you.
Also >music theory You use that term, but I doubt you know what it means. I bet you think chord construction is theory.
>>2946021 It is literally impossible to have music theory knowledge and composition skills and be unable to play a single instrument. Many instruments require only that you press a switch or hit a string, which means that if you know how tones/time are put together to create music, you can play to a reasonable extent.
>>2946050 Just knowing what to press isn't enough, you also having to actually press things with correct timing. This is very difficult, even on "easy" instruments like guitar which are actually very difficult because of the extreme hand contortion required. It's not like playing a rhythm game with easy to press buttons.
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