>>2930862 I was under the impression that Saturn was one of the few systems where it's actually worth owning the original games, because Saturn emulation is still pretty crappy. People often report freezes when emulating PDS, for example. You can still finish the game so it's almost certainly not worth the price tag, but it is an annoyance that owning the game lets you bypass.
They couldn't give this shit away back in the day. I picked up Saga, Burning Rangers, Shining Force III, and a few other Working Designs games for $20 a pop when Sega pulled the plug on the Saturn. No way is Saga worth $500+ and that pile of dog shit Burning Rangers worth $200+.
The market says otherwise buddy. Not only is it somewhat rare (not too many copies were made), but it gets amazing reviews. Sometimes retro collectors will ask if there are any expensive games that actually deserve their price tag, and PDS is always one of the answers given (granted, most of those people probably paid around $300 for it, maybe they would answer differently at $500...)
>read up about a fairly realistic SNES airport management game after seeing it on ebay >its Japanese version >"Oh, I cannot speak Japanese, better check for English versions" >English versions are £20-30+ >Japanese version is like £8 (~$10-15)
>>2931687 No because the ones who bought the game for MSRP realized how great of a game it was and with such few copies (30,000??) Everyone wants to play it once they realized they missed out on something great.
Lack of product leaves a massive crowd yearning to play with no outlet since even 10 years ago Saturn emulation was shit.
This way only fancy pants collectors who actually take care of there shit can pass it around for high dollar instead of some nigger picking it up at trade-it for $4 with Madden 95.
At least there is some incentive to keep these games in a manageable condition for 30+ years. Either shell out the cabbage, deal with inaccurate emulation, watch a neckbeard on YouTube play through it, or shut the fuck up and pick up a new hobby.
>>2931687 That's usually not the case with niche games. The problem with those stems from the fact that because they're niche means they sold like shit at release so now there's hardly any copies up for sale and because it's something hardly explored people who are into that niche pretty much have only that and a few other games to pick from causing the price to fly up due to a small but very present demand.
I've dropped some big bucks on expensive retro games before and honestly there's not much of a rational explanation for it. If I want to play on the original hardware, I can just get a flash cart (or a modchip in the case of systems like the Saturn). Basically it comes down to, I make decent money, so if I can spend a couple hundred bucks to make people go "wow, that's a really cool game you have!" then that's worth it to me.
>>2930848 >want to buy skies of arcadia >it's $60 >check back about two weeks later and it's almost $80
how does this even happen? it's happening all across the board for everything below gen 7. I have a very strong feeling it will happen for a certain console from this generation in the near future, too
>>2932000 That's not true. There are definitely collectors who own a huge number of games they've never or rarely played, probably expensive ones too, but I always make it a point to play any expensive purchase right away.
Also it's the fate of almost every physical game to collect dust on a shelf. If you're like me and you've been gaming your whole life, then you have hundreds of games just from building up normal purchases over the years. I can't play all of them all the time.
With all this being said in the thread, for all you know all these games can be worth nothing in lets say 15 years from now. NES games can become worthless. And something like ps4 games are going for thousands. You never know how these things work. A 100$ video game today can be 5$ in the future.
>>2932032 Sure, they could be worthless, but they could also not be. We can try and base our predictions on the available data. Genuinely rare games like Stadium Events are not likely to crash in value, unless everyone stops collecting games, which is unlikely. Some people have theorized that 8th gen games aren't likely to spike in price even in the far future because of how widespread digital distribution is now, but it's impossible to know for sure.
None of it's relevant to me anyway because I don't intend on ever selling anything in my collection.
>trying to trade stuff on craigslist >everyone grossly over values their trade stuff while undervaluing my trade stuff
You know, it really sucks because the whole idea of a trade is to be mutually beneficial. Both parties get something they want out of the deal.
All my trades are breaking down because stuff that is actually very close value (+/- 5 bucks according to ebay) is being grossly estimated by the potential trading partner. I'm trying to go direct swap but they all want extra stuff.
Makes me so mad. I'm more then willing to deal but these people just think they have gold.
>>2932079 I'm not offering shit like Barbie's Horse Adventure.
All the games I have are valued at are 40-60 bucks, looking for other games in that range mostly.
I have fucking lists of stuff I'm willing to take. But when I have a mint copy of something and someone offers me a game that's cheaper then what I have AND has the label torn to shit then it feels like a complete waste of time to even post the stuff.
>>2932116 I have flashcarts, but I also just like having the actual game in my hand. It's purely sentimental.
But at the end of the day, you're right. Because of flashcarts, I DO have the option of quitting and refusing to go for ridiculous prices, which is what I have to do more often than not. But that doesn't change the fact that I'm disappointed that things are the way they are
>>2932127 I've always loved the sort of longboxes that SCD/Saturn/PS1 games came in since I was a kid, so I bought up loads of the things for individually reasonable prices.
I don't recommend anyone actually get into retro collecting at this point though. Buy the real consoles for reasonable prices then use a flash cart and/or burned discs. Buy actual games only for reasonable prices. Some good games on various systems are still priced acceptably. Avoid meme games like Panzer Dragoon Saga or Keio Flying Squadron.
>>2931827 >The most I'll ever pay for a used game is like 40 bucks That's basically limit. I have paid a little more at times, but anything over $40 and I feel dirty, but really good games like Super Metroid and Kirby Super Star still feel like they're worth the money.
>>2931882 >so if I can spend a couple hundred bucks to make people go "wow, that's a really cool game you have!" That's ridiculous. What kind of human being is ever legitimately impressed by someone owning a 20-year-old piece of retail software?
>>2932000 This is why my collection is super-focused. I only own my absolute favorite games for every system. Most of them I already own from when they were originally released. I don't feel the need to have a massive library that takes up multiple shelving units when I'm only really going to play and enjoy a small fraction of it. If I ever feel the need to play random shit games, I can just shell out for an Everdrive cart or whatever.
>>2932003 I saw Skies of Arcadia for $65 bucks while I was game-hunting last weekend. I did a double take, because I bought a mint copy just a few years ago for $20.
>>2930848 IDK, but I'm committed to just buying jap copies for the time being. Like, I'm gonna just get the PSP versions of the Rockman Dash games, rather than go into dept buying the US PSX versions. I mean, yeah, I won't understand WTF they're saying, but I don't really play Megaman games for the plot. OR any Capcom games, for that matter.
I'm also going with cheaper ports in general, like I got Castlevania Dracula X Chronicles for $12 so I can play SOTN, rather than pay $45 for SOTN on PSX. Granted, it's not 100% the EXACT same game, but I'm not OCD enough to care.
And then there's my main resource. There's a used game store in a town near me, where there's TONS of retro shit, but no local interest. Locals all deal mainly in Xbone and PS4 stuff, and mainly just trade in their old shit to get bank. Combine that with the fact that the guy running the place just wants to clear out space, and I've got a pretty good thing going.
I got a copy of Dino Crisis for $3, and I just got the PSX version of Doom for free. And yeah, he' got the usual prices on things like FFVII and any other AAA games (on ALL platforms), but I don't go there for those. I hit up eBay and Craigslist for those. So it's all good.
Any collector, or just enthusiast should honestly have systems in place to shop around. Spent a few days looking, and you'll get great prices.
Personally, I have a list of games, with prices written next to them. Those are the prices I'm willing to pay. It's not strict, and it in no way represents market prices, but it keeps me on curse most of the time. And many times, I do my list one better and get games for cheaper than I have them valued.
Just be willing to buy rereleases or ports and do some shopping before you come here and cry.
And if you're just a collector, and only want games to look nice on your shelf, then you deserve to play collector prices. Simple as that.
>>2931682 >they had some law preventing people from renting Weird. Although renting is the reason I don't own a lot of games. Also because I was the only kid out of three who liked video games in my family, and that shit was expensive. I basically only got a few games each year, one on my birthday and maybe two for Christmas. There were a lot of games I played by renting and borrowing.
Of course, now that I'm trying to fill those gaps in my collection, it's pretty costly. I wish I had the foresight to hunt these games down years ago. I remember going to flea markets with my grandpa 15 years back, and vendors were stock full of SNES, Genesis, PS1 and even some N64 games that were still new in box. All I can remember buying is a mint copy of StarFox. Now all the flea markets I go to might have multiple dedicated retro game stalls, but they're only selling the reject games that they likely fished out of a dumpster behind an Electronics Boutique 10 years ago. People who have good retro games are holding onto them now.
>>2930967 Saga has been worth over $400 since the early 2000's. OP picked a really shitty game to use as reference for this. instead of some stupid shit like Earthbound which sells for 4x what it's worth.
PDS was a legitimate chore to track down when it was new (speaking from experience), it's legitimately rare.
I don't like spending more than like $15 on a game. For consoles that I don't have preexisting collections of games from my childhood, I'll just straight-up buy a flashcart/modchip along with the console and call it a day. I don't own a single saturn or dreamcast game, and I only own a few super famicom games (basically just the ones that aren't compatible with everdrive, also super metroid because I fucking love that game)
Only time I'll spend more than that is if it's a really good game I'm burning to own. So for my genesis, that was games like hard corps, thunder force 4, and gunstar heroes. And even then, I got those for like 20-30 each and they've like doubled in the past year. I usually like buying genesis games but I'm about to just get an everdrive anyway
>>2932996 That doesn't sound right. You can find forum threads from like 2 or 3 years ago where people were talking about the game being worth $350. And every sale in the last month has been $400+, and then you had the one in the OP PoC. Seems like a pretty big price jump to me.
>>2932003 Skies has always been exspensive. I remember trying to pick up a copy in 2007 and it was going for $40 even though. Ive never seen that game in the wild. Dreamcast a bunch but not the gamecube version.
>>2930848 >The Redouche Price inflation will end when the fed stops printing money and releases some of the secret cache of PDS, EB, etc games they stored in a secret underground bunker. Or when kids stop wanting to play with their daddys toys
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