I like it's design and I think it only gets hate because people can't get over the fact it's ice cream.
I think the design is really clever. They should have made it more obvious that the "ice cream" part is snow, like maybe when it enters battle it's just the ice, but then it forms snow around it to cover its head.
I don't hate it, but I don't like it either. Maybe if the shiny was chocolate or strawberry colored I would like it. I do find the first form really cute, but the other two are ugly.
I feel that Vanilluxe and Cryogonal are kind similar, both are floating heads of ice, and Cryogonal alone should be enough for this position.
They could have made a more interesting Ice-type with the three stages.
Naw I quite like it. It looks really visually appealing, and the white and blue is really nice. My only complain is that it could do with one or two less "sprinkles".
My headcanon is that someone in the Pokémon world invented ice cream after being inspired by Vanilluxe, rather than the other way around.
Not really clever, but is a nice design.
Pokefood are the best.
As usual, the Basic Pokemon is 10x better.
That's like saying someone invented car keys after seeing Klefki. Ice cream is made with a complicated milk slurry that has to be maintained at an unnatural temperature to turn into semisolid food.
I don't mind the ice cream theme and it's kind of cute but the face looks stupid and it doesn't help that it's a complete shitmon with nothing interesting in its movepool.
>That's like saying someone invented car keys after seeing Klefki
Except that the keys are not part of Klefki's body, it's based in a legend about fairies that would stole small things, such as keys.
>nothing interesting in its movepool
The only thing really holding it back is the typing. Its stats are solid across the board and it gets every Ice move there is, including Freeze Dry and Ice Shard. It wishes perma weather was still a thing, as Weather Ball was awesome last gen.
I like Vanillite design-wise. I don't like Vanilluxe's design because of the face and far too many unnecessary ice crystal diamonds on its body. Also, wish there was some color variation in the family. They're all just boring blue and white despite being based off of a very colorful thing.
Vanillite really is a cutie, though.
I like Vanilluxe. It's cute and I had fun using it on my team during my playthrough of White 2.
"Vanilluxe, the Snowstorm Pokémon
Swallowing large amounts of water, they make snow clouds inside their bodies and, when angry, cause violent blizzards. "
A more perfect candidate for the ability Snow Warning I have not seen. But it don' get it. Por qué?
You faggots are retarded. A fucking iced cream Pokémon? Motherfuckers talking about Garbodor in this thread too, man these are some lazy-ass concepts. Anyone who likes Vanniluxe should be killed.
I think "inspiration" is the key word here. As is, people already made ice cream, but they started making cones AFTER they saw it. As for klefki, it's more like an inspiration (or replacement?) for a key ring AFTER inventing locks and keys.
It's not that people were so dumb that they couldn't invent anything. However, it's been made clear that pokemon have been around at least as long as one evolutionary period ago (hence fossil pokemon), easily predating even the very first stages of civilization, so it's not unreasonable that many pokemon that resemble or function like real world tools (gears, magnets, scythes) may have inspired their man-made counterparts. Even in real life, people have been inspired by natural phenomena (including animals) to make tools and art.
So the pokemon designers probably thought, "what form could a pokemon take that has a real world counterpart, while also providing unique world-building to the fictional world of pokemon?"
>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have
Yeah exactly except for stuff like Voltorb and Honedge which only came into being AFTER the objects that make up their bodies were invented.
Like I like to think someone was studying Noivern's ears closely, to see if they could replicate the way they make sound, and thus invented the electric speaker. Dedenne communicate with radio waves so maybe they played a part in the invention of the radio.
In reality the most likely case is that it's just Nintendo logic, but internalizing stuff like this keeps me sane.
I wouldn't be too afraid to give them the credit. There are likely hundreds if not thousands of various fictional worlds filled with various creatures, but Pokemon was able to establish an often eclectic ensemble of creatures that have survived cultural osmosis for 20 years now. I think it's because they take elements from the real world to create unique parallels in the Pokemon world. It's that connection to reality that makes them so memorable.
I think the best example of this is Aerial Ace. It's a reference to the Swallow Cut sword technique, which was inspired by the movement of a swallow. In Pokemon, it's not just a movement; it's literally a fighting technique that, with the exception of Spearow, was only naturally (as in by level) learnable by Swellow and Taillow (swallows) in Gen 3 when it was introduced.
The Vanilluxe Line gets hate because people think it's LITERALLY icecream. They don't understand that the "icecream" part of it is actually snow, piled on to resemble icecream. It's not actually supposed to BE icecream. They take it too literal.
>>25080132 is a prime example of these types of people.
Vanillish is the worst one.
Vanillite is cute and Vanilluxe has fun with it.
It's got high BST, just bad distribution.
Also it might learn a lot of ice moves but it still has a shoddy movepool.
Also, what typing would you want it to have? Ice/Water?
Distribution isn't too bad at all, really. It has like 110 Sp Atk and enough speed to use a Scarf. Defenses are decent, and has enough Attack to use things like Ice Shard and Avalanche if you really want to. Switching Speed and Attack around would be good for it though.
Ice/Water would probably be best for it, but it wouldn't make sense unless it had a perpetually melting/freezing cycle thing going on.
No you fucking idiot, people hate Vanilluxe because it looks stupid as fuck, not because you think they don't get such a "clever" design.
Vanilluxe is pretty stupid even disregarding the fact that out of all ice-related things they decided to use ice-cream as a base. The stupid drooly cross-eyed faces, the "pellet smile" on the back, the horrible straw just planted there outta nowhere. It's appaling how people will defend this piece of shit just to piss off genwunners
I'm an Icefag so my opinion is probably a teeny bit biased, but I unironically like its design. Nothing to do with pissing anybody off either. I guess it just embodies the type well. Like, it's one of those pokemon you look at and immediately realize what type it is.
I can see the design being too goofy for some, but there's more to it than "just being ice cream", as >>25080345 said.
It's a snow-topped icicle made to resemble a double-sundae, and the "straw" is actually a funnel-like orifice to send off freezing air. I think it's neat.
The idea of an ice cream Pokemon isn't bad per se, the main issue is more that it has three stages for no good reason, feels like a case of "it just gets bigger", and the third stage does that stupid several-in-one thing that plagues so many other disliked designs such as Binacle, Dugtrio and Exeggcute. If it were a two-stage line to make the contrast between the forms bigger, and it only had one face, it would be perfect. Klink and its evos, however, are irredeemable trash designs.
I'm okay with it. It is kind gross but Cubchoo's also kinda cute.
You know what's really gross? Beartic' beard is made of snot. If you look closely at its X and Y model, you can see that its beard comes from out of its nose....
Someone said cofagrigus was a bad design, isn't literally the ghost of a human possessing a man-made casket
It Isn't natural, but new pokémon are being discovered all the time. From Muk to Garbodor they can pop out our shit
Sounds good. I'd also recommend certain moves like Blizzard involve it launching the snow at the opponent and leaving the icy body bare like how Mega Sceptile fires of its entire tail.
You think I didn't read the Pokédex? It's an iced cream Pokémon, regardless of that shit, that was the lazy-as-fuck concept, it looks like shit, and if you like it you're an idiot.