Would /vp/ watch a reboot of Season 1 anime?

what would be the point

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>>25062153

Nostalgia?

I liked how retarded Ash was and how loose the rules were, so he'd just tell Pikachu to do an "electric attack" and hope for the best. A reboot would probably ruin that and make him way too happy and understanding about everything.

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>>25062170

Maybe, hopefully they would leave things the way they were and just give it a new coat of paint. But they may censor a lot of it too

>>25062139
No. They can't remaster the greatness.
Nothing is better than the original.

no because we'll get even more hordes of retards talking about how "ash releases all his mons" or "aim for le horn xddddd"

Origins should've been the reboot.

>>25062139
I rather watch the Season 1 on February as part of #Pokémon20

>>25062139
i wont, because it would be pointless.

No but I'd be up for a reboot of the Pokemon anime in general. As in new protagonist, tone, and execution.

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>>25062257

That would have been the better story to follow. We would have been able to get all the other characters as well

>>25062139
I like the old style. I like that there aren't computer graphics. I like fat Pikachu. I wish they would unboot the newer ones.

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>>25062293

What about AG style with detailed eyes?

I noticed they started the current character designs back in DP.

>>25062139
But I already watched BW.

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>>25062153
Putting the terrible modern anime graphism on the season 1

>>25062322
Bottom looks much better.

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>>25062322

I do miss the hand drawn lines and water colors of the 90's

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>>25062293
Really? How cant you like all these modern flashy colors?

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>>25062285
>all the other characters as well
>one is missing

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>>25062328
Indeed, flashy colors ftw

>>25062344
Yep, thanks for proving my point.

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>>25062336

The older style had a darker heavier feel to it though, it felt real.

I do like the details that the newer style allows for though. I wish there was compromise between the two

>comparing movie animation to TV series animation
>still pretending to have a point
ebin

>>25062344

Fuck, I'm not alone then, the new colors sometiems hurt my eyes, the upper image is easier to look at and the BGs are sex, now the backgrounds stand out a lot in a bad way.

>>25062139
No. Start all of fucking Pokemon without Ash over and aim it to an audience older than fucking 10 and I'd watch the shit out of it. The whole concept of Pokemon has so much potential yet we waste year after year with fucking Ash Turdington doing and learning the same shit region after region. The Black & White 2 Trailers were fucking awesome, give me a series like that and I'd probably never stop watching.

>>25062311
>>25062336
see
>>25062357

There were a lot of really touching moments in the first season of pokemon. I think those moments come across better with a grittier look than a MLP:FiM look.

I mean the first episode they almost die.

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>>25062337

A few are missing

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>>25062322
cherry picking

Ash wakes up from his coma and goes on a Pokemon journey for real? Would watch.

>>25062322
Bottom looks like it's from BW. XY&Z is pretty great.

However, Ash lost all of his snarkiness from OS and Johto

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>>25062384

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>>25062384
You're the one cherrypicking though
Care to find a non-flashy modern anime screenshot that doesnt happen at sunset

And btw, it's mostly an issue of the ashnime
Pic related, Origins had it right

>>25062393
>>25062390
rekt

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>>25062393

>>25062393
>Care to find a non-flashy modern anime screenshot that doesnt happen at sunset
>he says this while posting a shot from origins at sunrise

ebin

>>25062382
>they somehow managed to make the male protagonist and rival look badass even though they have arguably the worst, most retarded design in the series
God we so need this as a anime series

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Can't believe some fags are gonna defend the new anime's colors

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>all this cherrypicking

From BW nonetheless.

>>25062427
The OS screenshots are from the original while the BW screenshots are from the dub, too.

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How do you even go from this to this?

>>25062418
Underaged faggots newer new it better man, can't blame them.

>>25062357
>those eyebrows

Does she have any R34?

>>25062449
Her name is Duplica.

>>25062442
well the first screenshot is from a movie which had a higher budget than the second screenshot which is just a normal episode.

If you're gonna cherry pick at least pick from episodes on both sides of the spectrum.

>>25062492
See

>>25062418

>>25062502
BW was trash

>>25062519
Still better than hoenn

>>25062139
Terrible idea. I'm grossed out thinking about how they'd alter those manga-esque backdrops, slap on those soulless eyes Ash has in recent years, recolor everything including the Pokemon from their 90's pastel and neon palettes for their bland/modern counterparts. Also entirely digital art and animation, eww

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>>25062544
No

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I feel like something is off in the newer series. We have an evil guy doing evil things in a hideout but for some reason it feels like brighter than it should. As compared to a scene from the first season

>>25062547
>soulless
Translation: MUH NOSTALGIA

>>25062559
Remember a Double Dillema? Hoenn had alot of shit tier episodes, People complain about iris but max was far worse

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XY kinda is less explicit with ultra bright colors like it was in BW (even though still isn't like the 90's).
Anime industry as a whole has changed, not only pokémon but many animes now are really bright if compared with the old ones.

btw can someone name a video player that you can apply subtle color changes like pic related?

No. It would just be worse.

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>>25062643
That's because the contrast is off in the bottom shot, you fuck.

What happened with the ultra bright pallets of Johto's opening?

youtube.com/watch?v=rDc_6lt-Y3s

>>25062691
The Johto openings were all animated digitally, while the episodes were hand-ran up until shortly after the 8th gym.

>>25062675
Your screenshot doesn't help your argument at all. His point still stands.

>>25062698
*hand-drawn

If they could trim it down to like 26 episodes yeah. I don't have the patience to watch a 90 something episode anime anymore.

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I would if it was something like Dragon Ball Kai - getting rid of some pointless and boring stuff from the original series. For example, Team Rocket appearing in every episode was always pretty boring for me. I hated it as a kid, since it was always the same scenario - they could limit their screen time a bit.

>>25062711
You can't do that to an episodic series, you retard

>>25062665
>Anime industry as a whole has changed, not only pokémon but many animes now are really bright if compared with the old ones.

Some animes still have god tier colors even without hand drawing (hunterXhunter, naruto, pokemon origins...)
Why the ashnime decided to go the flashy route is beyond me

>>25062717
Why the fuck not?

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>>25062706

Like a DBZ Kai sort of thing?

Cut out the boring filler and go straight for the gyms and good arcs

>>25062711

We are thinking the same thing. I do not like the fact that DBZ Kai had a new opening but original animation.

>>25062717
Yes you could. Cut out every episode where

>they visit a filler town or area not present in the games
>no one catches or evolves anything
>no recurring character is introduced
>no gym battle/contest

and it wouldn't change anything. Also the series isn't even episodic, it just feels that way because of all the filler trash they put it in to make it fit the game's schedule

>>25062156
>that fucking misty
fuck yeah I would

>>25062728
It would benefit doubly so with less episodes because they'd have less of a need to spread their budget thin and risk QUALITY issues.

>>25062726
Because each story arc in Dragonball Z lasted a gorrilion episodes, giving the Kai people relative huge freedom in choosing the exact spot to end each episode.
Pretty much every "story arc" in Pokemon last one episode, so you'd have to trim each episode down to HALF its original length and force two unrelated stories into the same 20 minute block. And each Pokemon is way too fast pace for you to be able to find 10 fucking minutes of total footage you can cut out without completely killing the plot.

>>25062736
...so basically just "leave the series as is, just skip a bunch of episodes"? Can't you just skip them yourself on your rewatch?

>>25062736
>the series isn't even episodic
what the fuck am I reading.png.jpg.bmp.gif.webm

>>25062754
Kai was more of an abridgment than a reboot. A reboot would mean they could take whatever liberties they want and not waste time with unnecessary story arcs.

>>25062764
Yeah, and I can also just skips parts of DBZ myself on my rewatch. But having cut out episodes is easier for the viewer.

>>25062781
you're reading the truth. It isn't episodic just because something different happens most episodes. Many serialized shows do that. But Pokemon has a tangible continuity and many episodes obviously connect right after the previous one with continuing story arcs like Ash's gym badges or Serena's showcase progress, or that whole arc with Goodra. An episodic show would be like the Simpsons or Spongebob where every episode is completely disconnected and it doesn't matter at all what order you watch them in.

>>25062796
And that post literally said "if it was something like Dragon Ball Kai".

Pokemon is too episodic for a recut like that. All you can do is just skip unimportant episodes, and you don't need an official release of "Pokemon with a bunch of episodes missing" for you to do that.

>>25062808
"something like" doesn't mean "exactly like"
>just skip unimportant episodes
The point of this thread is discussing a hypothetical reboot.

>>25062801
The difference is that the filler in DBZ in right in the middle of episodes and is hard to "skip" without going full retard on your fast forward button, while the filler in Pokemon is just "episodes you don't need to watch", which can easily be skipped by just not watching them. The two shows work in completely different ways.

>>25062814
Then it wouldn't be even remotely like Dragonball Kai.

>>25062754
When have you watched the first season for the last time? Many episodes are just uninteresting fillers, they could easily skip some of the stories and focus on the main story plot, maybe even adding or changing a few thing. Don't know about you guys, but I was interested in Ash catching new Pokemon and fighting gym leaders way more than looking at Team Rocket's fails or the team chasing Farfetch'd who stole Misty's PokeBalls (yeah, there was an episode about it). Does Porygon episode change much? Not really, not seeing this one doesn't make much of a difference.

>>25062824
Yes. Just like you could skip those episodes while watching the series.
All you're really saying is "they should reair the series but skip filler episodes because I can't be assed to look up which episodes are filler".

Also this is literally what the Pokemon Get TV rerun of Kanto was

>>25062833
So you'd like a reboot with all the fillers, or no reboot at all? I can't see your point.

>>25062840
I think he's just here to argue semantics.

>>25062840
My point is that everything you can cut from the original is literally just entire episodes of unimportant filler sidestories, which means that "cutting the filler" would just involve "skipping certain episodes". And you don't need an official reairing to do that, you can just watch hat's already there and skip the episodes that aren't important.
Again, this is literally what Pokemon Get TV did when they cut the first 63 episodes of Kanto down to 45.

>>25062872
You're still assuming that all a reboot would do is change the filler.

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>>25062872
Ok then, I'm just going to rewatch the original series with old music, graphics and all the stuff they could improve.

>>25062872
What part of "reboot" don't you understand?

If you don't want a Pokemon Kai, then good for you. But this thread isn't asking for a Pokemon Kai. It's asking for a full remake of the series.

>>25062918
Yes, but the specific posts I was replying to were asking for a Pokemon Kai.

>>25062926
So you just came in the thread to argue? Fuck off.

>>25062918
At least half the posts in the threads were literally talking about a Pokemon Kai and "just cut episodes", anon.

>>25062939
There's also 28 IPs out of the 89 posts. So chances are you've been arguing with the same person for the thread.

>>25062945
I'm not that guy. But if it's just been two people talking about whether or not a Kai-style remake would work, I'm not really seeing the issue. None of them were talking about a full remake.

>>25062968
They pretty much derailed the thread. I know it's no big deal but this is a slow board.

>>25062139
Nahh. Part of OS's charm is the animation. Plotwise it's probably the weakest season.

>>25062285
I would totally watch a series in the style of the B2W2 animated trailer

>>25062442
to be fair, XY is a huge improvement from BW when it comes to background colors and stuff like foliage and skies

>>25063036
Care to post some examples? I don't think anyone's posted an XY screencap in the thread.

>>25063044
See >>25062384 and >>25062390

>>25063044

>>25062398 was from a filler episode.

>>25063067
>>25063070
Nice, but those are just setpieces. Do you have any examples with humans in them?

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>>25063044
I couldn't find larger screenshots unfortunately

>>25063075
Not much but it's exponentially better than BW's oversaturated scenery.

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>>25063044
>>25063075
another one

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>>25063073
Random screenshot I had here.

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>>25063044
>>25063083
it definitely is an improvement

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>>25063082
Also, since that one guy was cherrypicking with movie pictures from the original series, the final BW movie had some REALLY fucking nice-looking city scenery.

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>>25062139
>reboot of Season 1 anime

>>25062285
What's up left from?

>>25063136
that's DP

>>25063136
One of the HGSS hype episodes from DP.

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>>25062139
no i wouldn't. but i would absolutely watch a full series of mystery dungeon anime

>>25063145
>>25063139
An SS special, like the one with GSE characters?

>>25063155
No, Lyra just joined the group for 5 or so episodes.

>>25063155
No, Ash and co. actually met Lyra

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>>25063154
>PMD anime
>Dungeon + Villain of the Week
>MC is a water type; partner is a fire type; they go at it all the time
>there's also two or three other mons on the team that they recruited in a dungeon
>first half of the season is episodic
>series develops a continuity as the team begins to learn what causes pokemon to go berserk in the dungeons
>adventures lead up to them fighting a legendary, or just some fuckstrong pokemon who turns challengers into feral monsters
>despite being directly about pokemon, the series is less infantile and campy than the ashnime
I'd watch the hell out of it.

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>>25063155

Lyra guest appeared for a few episodes while HGSS got promoted

>>25062156
No. Fuck off.

>>25062139

what if it were live action?

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>>25063285

Weird

youtube.com/watch?v=pVoWD7ARe9s

>>25062665
play around with the color settings on your monitor, especially saturation.

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Golly, I sure do miss the old seasons! Ash was such a better character, the animation was much darker, and there was nothing at all wrong with it!!

>>25063330

>Ash was such a better character

Did you mean a shitty trainer, a jerkass and a bad example for children??

>>25063297
That's the look of a man who weeps at night wondering what the fuck happened to his life.

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>>25063343

I think a reboot would be better if Ash was a better trainer

>>25063356

A lot of careers were destroyed that day

>>25063362
Pokemon Live is too goofy and fun to be possible to dislike.

I don't get the hate for filler. Bad filler is bad, but as a concept, it can be pulled off well. In a reboot, I'd hope to have good filler, not no filler.

>>25063263
>>25063185
>>25063145
>>25063187

>They didn't bring back May to hype ORAS

;_;

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>>25063498

The short OVA didn't do anything but make me hungrier for her

Shoji Yonemura was a genus writer of Pokémon.

>>25063358
Unless you go for an Origins-like angle as far as characters, the new 'Ash' would be a bit boring. Heck the first episode showed he was almost late to nab a starter. And if he started even Advanced levels of skilled, it would get predictable unless you sent old vets to take him down a peg, which looks even weirder. The anime does make champions and the like to be super strong, after all.

>>25063498
Her VA was unavailable, and recasting a cameo character kills most of the point.

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>>25063514

They used Kana Hanazawa instead. That is a huge step up but GF can afford it

>>25063343
Yes. He actually had a character. Ash now is just

"Haha everything is so awesome!" "Wow cool!" and he never ever fights with any of his friends like he did in the original series. He's just a fucking cardboard cutout now.

>>25063503

He tends to make Ash pretty arrogant, unsensitive, self-centered, reckless and prideful in his episodes, because he mostly writes episodes about moral aesops and/or making the MC going trough a Humble Pie. I still remember Ash being too OOC in his episodes (with Sanpei he threw a Vegeta-like tantrum after ninja boy called his froakie a weakling. In Pokevision episode he was selfish, in Diantha episode, he acted like a 4 years old stubborn brat who wanted a battle in both Hawlucha and Moltres episodes he was overly reckless and desperated, in Ramos' episode he made Ash overly reckless and arrogant.

Yonemura isn't bad, but he tends to highlight Ash's most fatal flaws, and that's one thing I don't like from him.

>>25063612

>Not implying traveling with an unsufferable and overly violent tsundere with a fatal flaw in the dere department, a trolling rat and a lecherous teenager make everyone act like a son of a bitch.

>>25063548
>GF

While on the topic, which anime is worth re watching? I stopped watching it 1/8 during DP and only been able to watch bits and pieces of anything after that.
I'd be willing to watch anything, though, since I caught the PokeFever.

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>>25063715

I would recommend going through an episode guide to pick and choose what episodes you want to watch. If you do it like this you can get all the good episodes and little filler as well as touch up on all the seasons

>>25063715
Skip B/W

>>25063715

Go and watch last episode of BW decolora Adventures, then start with XY.

Every other saga is forgettable except maybe AG Battle Frontier and DP.

>>25063740
>>25063793
>>25063825

So I should watch
>AG Battle Frontier
>DPp
>XY
Is that order good? I won't miss too much of the story? Also any suggestion for streaming site?

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>>25062139
I'd rather a new Pokemon anime.

I would only be okay with a reboot if Ash's pokedex was an asshole like it was in episode 1. Only all the time.

Otherwise, there's no fucking point.

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>>25063860

If you want. It isn't like you will miss anything, I still recommend the episode guide way though.

>>25063860
The second half of DP and all of XY so far has been subbed, see the anime general for links. Unfortunately they have only subbed like 12 eps of AG.

As for the dub I have no idea. The dub is shit though ever since they changed the voice actors.

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>>25062139

I would watch a new MC in whatever new region there is.

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>>25062285

>we will never know if Lyra participated in the Johto league

She had a funny cameo, I was interested on her.

>>25063860
You can skip sagas, they're not interconnected. Every saga starts with a new story so you won't miss anything if you decide to skip a few. Personally I'd watch the ones you listed but skip some of the fillers (DP has A LOT) . There should be guides that list the filler episodes.

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>>25062322
Jesus fuck, the colors in the bottom one.

>>25063860

AG and DPP are really enjoyable, but avoid some fillers. They had a lot.

>>25063967
>Filler

Can you send me a list of filler episodes? I don't want to see any.

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>>25063923

In the anime she should meet back up with Dawn because she was heading that way

>>25062139
No point.

>>25063983

This only makes me want to know it more, Dane and Lyra joining at some point (Lyra had like 2 badges so she still had to travel through Johto). Makes me miss the times they would do specials.

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>>25064034
>Makes me miss the times they would do specials.
But they still do them?

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>>25063923
>We will never know if she participated in the Johto league
She already had two badges at the time she was in Sinnoh. She was clearly already a participant.

>>25064042
Why is Clair so fucking hot?

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>>25064042

Dawn's appearance in BW was the last that I knew of. I don't know if XY has done any yet

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DUDE LSD LMAO

>>25064107
The Iris special that picture was from aired half a year into XY.

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What's a good episode with the best girl?

>>25064278
Memories are Pearls! Friendship is a Diamond!

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>>25064278

Episode 366

What are they feeding these Hoenn girls?

>>25062336
that sandile looks fucking shopped in

>>25062418
>fags are gonna defend the new anime's colors

>posts an entirely different studio's season
>the worst season too

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>>25062153
To set right the one true ship

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>Remake 1st season
>Still find a way to shoehorn Mega Charizard into it

I'd rather have something like Pokemon Adventures done in the same animation style as Origins

>>25069399
Origin's animation was terrible imo. I'd rather have XY or B2W2 animated trailer style animation.

ITT: People posting shit about the two worst series, OS and BW

what a shit thread

>>25062139
I would watch a condensed version of a reboot, like Dragon Ball Z Kai.

>>25069702
Look mom, I'm trolling.

>>25069747
It's torture going through all of those filler episodes, I don't mean fillers like giant pokemon island, or the pokemon school with giselle.

Removing episodes with repeat fillers like "my pokemon loves another pokemon" or "the gang has been separated, even separated with team rocket members" would be a god send.

>>25069929
It's called "just skip them, then" and was already discussed at length.

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JUST

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FUCK

>>25069975

Damn, there is a huge difference between them. The top makes it feel so much different than the bottom

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MY

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ANIME

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>>25069371
trAsh ain't even in the same league as Misty.

>>25069990
Not sure if you try to be ironic, but yes it does

The top looks like something from Studio Ghibli
The bottom looks like these cartoons for 5 years olds with very bright colors and no depth in the bg

>>25069975
>>25069983
>>25070001
>>25070010
>showing shit from BW
>hurr durr this is how it looks now

>>25062384


Kill yourself retard

>>25070024
The top pictures are all from movies which have are higher budget than the TV series. You're all getting trolled by cherrypicking.

>>25069990
yeah, it's like they are different locations.

or made by different studios.

or years apart.

>>25070081
Or with different budgets, which is the main factor.

I mean fuck, >>25063105 is probably the best looking shot in the entire thread.

>>25070113
>I mean fuck, >>25063105 is probably the best looking shot in the entire thread.

You have shit tastes sir

>>25070048
Pretty sure the one with chikorita isnt
It doesnt show much about scenery, but it tells a lot about how brightness of colors changed for the worst

>>25070175
Good thing BW ended long ago, then.

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>>25062170
Nah, they're perfectly fine with making Ash not understand anything.

>>25063498
They brought back Steven who is pretty based

>>25070113
>I mean fuck, >>25063105 is probably the best looking shot in the entire thread.

an arial shot of a city rotoscoped with mewtwo and genosect badly photoshopped in is good to you?

>>25063612
>Haha everything is so awesome!" "Wow cool!" and he never ever fights with any of his friends like he did in the original series.
Maybe because no one in the group argues with him because there is no reason to argue? They are all good friends with each other in XY

And even then, Ash fought and argued with Iris a lot in BW. Try again.

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Since people love trolling by posting movie shots from OS against shitty regular BW episodes, let me counter with a shot from an XY movie.

>>25062440
Does the dub change the video quality somehow?

>>25064107
>I don't know if XY has done any yet
Strongest Mega Evolution Act I, II, III, and IV?

>>25070261
Yeah, they fuck with the colors for some reason. Used to be much worse back in the OS days before the switch to digital, but it's still an issue.

>>25069975
But the bottom looks better? It's a fucking beach, it's not supposed to look dull and depressing

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>>25070272
Random example.

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>>25070280
Should be pretty obvious which is the original and which is the dub.

>>25063105
Is that town CG?

>>25070284
Fuckign hell why is that shit so bright

>>25070279
The bottom one looks like it was drawn by a 10 years old
Look at the part where send meets the sea, wtf.

Also it may be more colorful, but the saturation makes the whole thing look cold and bland.
That's something I felt in general with the Decolore islands, because of the saturation used, they felt incredibly cold compared to the Orange Archipelago and Hoenn

>>25070289
No.

It's

Believe it or not.

A picture of an actual city

at night

with Mewtwo and Genesect pasted on

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>>25063256
I'd settle for one or two specials since Gates didn't even get that, but a full-length miniseries or even a series would be god-tier.

Really I'm cool with anything that isn't the Ashnime, Origins, PMD, almost anything would be better.

>>25062139
No. I'd like only to see an HD remaster of the anime, nothing more.
If series are rebooted, normies won't shut up about it.

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>>25069975
XY, Hoopa movie.

>>25070295
No, the top looks like it was drawn by a 10 year old. There is an extreme lack of detail in anything. Almost everything looks like some painting project. Everything has a wet paint smudge kind of look to it. Just strong saturation throughout the shot.

>>25070298
Oh, well that's not good either. How the hell can that be anon's favorite shot?

>>25070323
I don't know why anon posted it. It looks like shit.

BW's animators were so lazy it's not even funny. How the hell do you have stock footage in a fucking movie?

>>25070240
WHY DO PEOPLE INSIST ON POSTING SHIT FROM BW. IT'S IRRELEVANT NOW.

>>25070346
Because Ash still hasn't won the League and until he does you can't convince me he's gotten any better.

>>25070346
They're just reposting 3 year old troll pictures, anon. BW was current when they were made.

>>25062139
If they use the original script where Ash was supposed to win the league, sure.

>>25070349
>league in the games
>only need to get 8 badges
>every trainer is shit with shit teams
>elite 4 has shit teams

>league in the anime
>over 250 trainers
>every single one has 8 badges
>actually good teams
>actually facing good trainers
>you must win this league to even have a shoot at battling elite 4
>elite 4 is extremely OP
>Ash has ended between 8th and 4th in everytime
>out of over 250 trainers
>literally had to get beaten by a trainer with only legendaries to lose
>won battle frontier
>bad

You're fucking retarded m8

>>25070349
That doesn't make any sense. The higher in ranking he gets in a League decides how better he has gotten. He made Top 4 in the Sinnoh League which means he has done better than his OS self that got Top 16 in the Kanto League

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>>25070381
You keep making this excuse but I still don't see Ash having won the league yet.

>>25070382
So what, people should start watching the Ashnime because he has a chance of winning the League in Gen 8, assuming he retains his rank from Gen 4 in Gen 6, makes top two in Gen 7, and finally wins in Gen 8 without the writers regressing him at any point whatsoever? We should call him a good trainer because MAYBE he'll win the League in ten years guys just be patient and ignore the fact that he STILL throws away all his best Pokémon to train new ones.

>>25070382
In Sinnoh he made the top 4. Meanwhile in Unova he forgot to weaken a Pokemon, and only made the top 8. Ever since Unova his character has taken a 180.

>>25070416
>ever since Unova
>has never been as good as he's in XY

Are you legitimately retarded or something?

>>25070402
>So what, people should start watching the Ashnime because he has a chance of winning the League in Gen 8
What are you talking about? All Leagues have 256 trainers entering. If he made Top 16 in a League and then makes Top 4 in another one, that means he did better and his skills as a trainer have improved. You said you can't see him as a better tainer unless he wins the League and that is flawed logic. He can defeat every Champion in the world and still not win the League.

>>25070433
Well okay, let me rephrase. I don't see him as a GOOD trainer.

And there are plenty of Leagues in the world, he could at least camp out at one like Kanto where the competition wasn't very tough, Richie had NFEs on his team.

>>25070402
>Ashnime

>>25070457
Ashnime.

>>25070449
>one like Kanto where the competition wasn't very tough, Richie had NFEs on his team.
You're assuming the same trainers enter the same League. And even if they did, their Pokemon would have gotten stronger through the experience and/or have evolved.

>>25070449
What is your definition of a good trainer?

>>25070470
Someone who wins the League at least once if they've been doing this for 20 years.

>>25070476
Ash could defeat every trainer in the League and still not win a League.

Ash could defeat every trainer in the world and still not win a League.

You're using flawed logic.

>>25070476
Yeah, I'm still waiting on Leonardo Di'Caprio to win an Oscar. He's been doing this shit for 25 years.

>>25070508
I didn't like his Gatsby portrayal very much to be honest.

>>25070381
Games would be so much better if the league was a tournament like the Dome of Emerald's battle frontrier

>>25062659
>Iris>Max
No.

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>>25070534

I wish we had something like Tekken were you could download other player's teams and use them as a way to tournament in the game and use them to replace post E4 NPC teams.

>>25070534
The dome was top tier, I looved it. I wasted dozen on hours on it, trying to get the gold symbol.
I loved how after you get the gold symbol, all trainers in the tournament are actually pretty powerful, with sometimes semi-legendaries in their team, and how you aren't any more in the upper left place (this probably champion's slot), because how much the level stepped up.

The animation in season one was terrible.

>>25074754
The artstyle was better though.

Whilst the new anime is colourful, bright and drawn well, all the backgrounds are the fucking same. Either a forest, a clearing, a rocky mountain or a city.#

>>25074897

Well yeah, they are traveling to different places.

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>>25062322

>second pic

you're complaining about a 2 second money shot of a place that's not only never seen again in the show, but was based on an actual specific location in Brooklyn NYC, so the attention to detail alone should earn them some credit.

Also, you're comparing it to an extremely low res screenshot.

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>>25075331
>you're complaining about a 2 second money shot of a place that's not only never seen again in the show,

Im complaining about the terrible colors of Unova cities in the anime

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>>25075430

yeah everything looks like pastels, its horse shit.

even worse considering Nimbasa's supposed to be a representation of the Time's Square area.

at least they didn't fuck Time's Square up in the movie version.

>>25075331
>>25075430
BW had so much green, purple and yellow

the league isn't that hard... i entered it about 2 years ago when i got 8 badges. yeah, the trainers were a LOT more challenging than the gym leaders i battled (granted the gym leaders hold back).. but i still made it to the top 32.

i didn't see ash there, but he does have a small reputation... like i heard random trainers mention his name before. hopefully, i'll win the next one, but im in college now and have to focus on my studies.

>>25062139
I'd rather just drop Ash, have him win the Kalos league and then next series make him the new protagonists' support, he can still explore new areas, get new Pokemon, but help some new trainer(s) take on the gyms instead of doing it himself.

>>25075472
>at least they didn't fuck Time's Square up in the movie version.

It's called rotoscoping. You have to go out of your way to fuck it up

>>25075472

Of course they did. The one in Pokemon is clean and there is a lack of cars.