Would /vp/ watch a reboot of Season 1 anime?
I liked how retarded Ash was and how loose the rules were, so he'd just tell Pikachu to do an "electric attack" and hope for the best. A reboot would probably ruin that and make him way too happy and understanding about everything.
Maybe, hopefully they would leave things the way they were and just give it a new coat of paint. But they may censor a lot of it too
That would have been the better story to follow. We would have been able to get all the other characters as well
What about AG style with detailed eyes?
I noticed they started the current character designs back in DP.
Putting the terrible modern anime graphism on the season 1
I do miss the hand drawn lines and water colors of the 90's
Really? How cant you like all these modern flashy colors?
The older style had a darker heavier feel to it though, it felt real.
I do like the details that the newer style allows for though. I wish there was compromise between the two
No. Start all of fucking Pokemon without Ash over and aim it to an audience older than fucking 10 and I'd watch the shit out of it. The whole concept of Pokemon has so much potential yet we waste year after year with fucking Ash Turdington doing and learning the same shit region after region. The Black & White 2 Trailers were fucking awesome, give me a series like that and I'd probably never stop watching.
There were a lot of really touching moments in the first season of pokemon. I think those moments come across better with a grittier look than a MLP:FiM look.
I mean the first episode they almost die.
A few are missing
You're the one cherrypicking though
Care to find a non-flashy modern anime screenshot that doesnt happen at sunset
And btw, it's mostly an issue of the ashnime
Pic related, Origins had it right
>they somehow managed to make the male protagonist and rival look badass even though they have arguably the worst, most retarded design in the series
God we so need this as a anime series
Can't believe some fags are gonna defend the new anime's colors
>all this cherrypicking
From BW nonetheless.
well the first screenshot is from a movie which had a higher budget than the second screenshot which is just a normal episode.
If you're gonna cherry pick at least pick from episodes on both sides of the spectrum.
Terrible idea. I'm grossed out thinking about how they'd alter those manga-esque backdrops, slap on those soulless eyes Ash has in recent years, recolor everything including the Pokemon from their 90's pastel and neon palettes for their bland/modern counterparts. Also entirely digital art and animation, eww
I feel like something is off in the newer series. We have an evil guy doing evil things in a hideout but for some reason it feels like brighter than it should. As compared to a scene from the first season
XY kinda is less explicit with ultra bright colors like it was in BW (even though still isn't like the 90's).
Anime industry as a whole has changed, not only pokémon but many animes now are really bright if compared with the old ones.
btw can someone name a video player that you can apply subtle color changes like pic related?
That's because the contrast is off in the bottom shot, you fuck.
I would if it was something like Dragon Ball Kai - getting rid of some pointless and boring stuff from the original series. For example, Team Rocket appearing in every episode was always pretty boring for me. I hated it as a kid, since it was always the same scenario - they could limit their screen time a bit.
>Anime industry as a whole has changed, not only pokémon but many animes now are really bright if compared with the old ones.
Some animes still have god tier colors even without hand drawing (hunterXhunter, naruto, pokemon origins...)
Why the ashnime decided to go the flashy route is beyond me
Like a DBZ Kai sort of thing?
Cut out the boring filler and go straight for the gyms and good arcs
We are thinking the same thing. I do not like the fact that DBZ Kai had a new opening but original animation.
Yes you could. Cut out every episode where
>they visit a filler town or area not present in the games
>no one catches or evolves anything
>no recurring character is introduced
>no gym battle/contest
and it wouldn't change anything. Also the series isn't even episodic, it just feels that way because of all the filler trash they put it in to make it fit the game's schedule
Because each story arc in Dragonball Z lasted a gorrilion episodes, giving the Kai people relative huge freedom in choosing the exact spot to end each episode.
Pretty much every "story arc" in Pokemon last one episode, so you'd have to trim each episode down to HALF its original length and force two unrelated stories into the same 20 minute block. And each Pokemon is way too fast pace for you to be able to find 10 fucking minutes of total footage you can cut out without completely killing the plot.
Yeah, and I can also just skips parts of DBZ myself on my rewatch. But having cut out episodes is easier for the viewer.
you're reading the truth. It isn't episodic just because something different happens most episodes. Many serialized shows do that. But Pokemon has a tangible continuity and many episodes obviously connect right after the previous one with continuing story arcs like Ash's gym badges or Serena's showcase progress, or that whole arc with Goodra. An episodic show would be like the Simpsons or Spongebob where every episode is completely disconnected and it doesn't matter at all what order you watch them in.
And that post literally said "if it was something like Dragon Ball Kai".
Pokemon is too episodic for a recut like that. All you can do is just skip unimportant episodes, and you don't need an official release of "Pokemon with a bunch of episodes missing" for you to do that.
The difference is that the filler in DBZ in right in the middle of episodes and is hard to "skip" without going full retard on your fast forward button, while the filler in Pokemon is just "episodes you don't need to watch", which can easily be skipped by just not watching them. The two shows work in completely different ways.
When have you watched the first season for the last time? Many episodes are just uninteresting fillers, they could easily skip some of the stories and focus on the main story plot, maybe even adding or changing a few thing. Don't know about you guys, but I was interested in Ash catching new Pokemon and fighting gym leaders way more than looking at Team Rocket's fails or the team chasing Farfetch'd who stole Misty's PokeBalls (yeah, there was an episode about it). Does Porygon episode change much? Not really, not seeing this one doesn't make much of a difference.
Yes. Just like you could skip those episodes while watching the series.
All you're really saying is "they should reair the series but skip filler episodes because I can't be assed to look up which episodes are filler".
Also this is literally what the Pokemon Get TV rerun of Kanto was
My point is that everything you can cut from the original is literally just entire episodes of unimportant filler sidestories, which means that "cutting the filler" would just involve "skipping certain episodes". And you don't need an official reairing to do that, you can just watch hat's already there and skip the episodes that aren't important.
Again, this is literally what Pokemon Get TV did when they cut the first 63 episodes of Kanto down to 45.
Ok then, I'm just going to rewatch the original series with old music, graphics and all the stuff they could improve.
What part of "reboot" don't you understand?
If you don't want a Pokemon Kai, then good for you. But this thread isn't asking for a Pokemon Kai. It's asking for a full remake of the series.
I'm not that guy. But if it's just been two people talking about whether or not a Kai-style remake would work, I'm not really seeing the issue. None of them were talking about a full remake.
I couldn't find larger screenshots unfortunately
Random screenshot I had here.
Also, since that one guy was cherrypicking with movie pictures from the original series, the final BW movie had some REALLY fucking nice-looking city scenery.
no i wouldn't. but i would absolutely watch a full series of mystery dungeon anime
>Dungeon + Villain of the Week
>MC is a water type; partner is a fire type; they go at it all the time
>there's also two or three other mons on the team that they recruited in a dungeon
>first half of the season is episodic
>series develops a continuity as the team begins to learn what causes pokemon to go berserk in the dungeons
>adventures lead up to them fighting a legendary, or just some fuckstrong pokemon who turns challengers into feral monsters
>despite being directly about pokemon, the series is less infantile and campy than the ashnime
I'd watch the hell out of it.
Lyra guest appeared for a few episodes while HGSS got promoted
Golly, I sure do miss the old seasons! Ash was such a better character, the animation was much darker, and there was nothing at all wrong with it!!
I think a reboot would be better if Ash was a better trainer
The short OVA didn't do anything but make me hungrier for her
Unless you go for an Origins-like angle as far as characters, the new 'Ash' would be a bit boring. Heck the first episode showed he was almost late to nab a starter. And if he started even Advanced levels of skilled, it would get predictable unless you sent old vets to take him down a peg, which looks even weirder. The anime does make champions and the like to be super strong, after all.
They used Kana Hanazawa instead. That is a huge step up but GF can afford it
Yes. He actually had a character. Ash now is just
"Haha everything is so awesome!" "Wow cool!" and he never ever fights with any of his friends like he did in the original series. He's just a fucking cardboard cutout now.
He tends to make Ash pretty arrogant, unsensitive, self-centered, reckless and prideful in his episodes, because he mostly writes episodes about moral aesops and/or making the MC going trough a Humble Pie. I still remember Ash being too OOC in his episodes (with Sanpei he threw a Vegeta-like tantrum after ninja boy called his froakie a weakling. In Pokevision episode he was selfish, in Diantha episode, he acted like a 4 years old stubborn brat who wanted a battle in both Hawlucha and Moltres episodes he was overly reckless and desperated, in Ramos' episode he made Ash overly reckless and arrogant.
Yonemura isn't bad, but he tends to highlight Ash's most fatal flaws, and that's one thing I don't like from him.
>Not implying traveling with an unsufferable and overly violent tsundere with a fatal flaw in the dere department, a trolling rat and a lecherous teenager make everyone act like a son of a bitch.
While on the topic, which anime is worth re watching? I stopped watching it 1/8 during DP and only been able to watch bits and pieces of anything after that.
I'd be willing to watch anything, though, since I caught the PokeFever.
I would recommend going through an episode guide to pick and choose what episodes you want to watch. If you do it like this you can get all the good episodes and little filler as well as touch up on all the seasons
If you want. It isn't like you will miss anything, I still recommend the episode guide way though.
The second half of DP and all of XY so far has been subbed, see the anime general for links. Unfortunately they have only subbed like 12 eps of AG.
As for the dub I have no idea. The dub is shit though ever since they changed the voice actors.
I would watch a new MC in whatever new region there is.
>we will never know if Lyra participated in the Johto league
She had a funny cameo, I was interested on her.
You can skip sagas, they're not interconnected. Every saga starts with a new story so you won't miss anything if you decide to skip a few. Personally I'd watch the ones you listed but skip some of the fillers (DP has A LOT) . There should be guides that list the filler episodes.
Jesus fuck, the colors in the bottom one.
In the anime she should meet back up with Dawn because she was heading that way
This only makes me want to know it more, Dane and Lyra joining at some point (Lyra had like 2 badges so she still had to travel through Johto). Makes me miss the times they would do specials.
>Makes me miss the times they would do specials.
But they still do them?
>We will never know if she participated in the Johto league
She already had two badges at the time she was in Sinnoh. She was clearly already a participant.
Dawn's appearance in BW was the last that I knew of. I don't know if XY has done any yet
DUDE LSD LMAO
What are they feeding these Hoenn girls?
>Remake 1st season
>Still find a way to shoehorn Mega Charizard into it
I'd rather have something like Pokemon Adventures done in the same animation style as Origins
It's torture going through all of those filler episodes, I don't mean fillers like giant pokemon island, or the pokemon school with giselle.
Removing episodes with repeat fillers like "my pokemon loves another pokemon" or "the gang has been separated, even separated with team rocket members" would be a god send.
trAsh ain't even in the same league as Misty.
Not sure if you try to be ironic, but yes it does
The top looks like something from Studio Ghibli
The bottom looks like these cartoons for 5 years olds with very bright colors and no depth in the bg
Nah, they're perfectly fine with making Ash not understand anything.
>Haha everything is so awesome!" "Wow cool!" and he never ever fights with any of his friends like he did in the original series.
Maybe because no one in the group argues with him because there is no reason to argue? They are all good friends with each other in XY
And even then, Ash fought and argued with Iris a lot in BW. Try again.
Since people love trolling by posting movie shots from OS against shitty regular BW episodes, let me counter with a shot from an XY movie.
Should be pretty obvious which is the original and which is the dub.
The bottom one looks like it was drawn by a 10 years old
Look at the part where send meets the sea, wtf.
Also it may be more colorful, but the saturation makes the whole thing look cold and bland.
That's something I felt in general with the Decolore islands, because of the saturation used, they felt incredibly cold compared to the Orange Archipelago and Hoenn
I'd settle for one or two specials since Gates didn't even get that, but a full-length miniseries or even a series would be god-tier.
Really I'm cool with anything that isn't the Ashnime, Origins, PMD, almost anything would be better.
No, the top looks like it was drawn by a 10 year old. There is an extreme lack of detail in anything. Almost everything looks like some painting project. Everything has a wet paint smudge kind of look to it. Just strong saturation throughout the shot.
>league in the games
>only need to get 8 badges
>every trainer is shit with shit teams
>elite 4 has shit teams
>league in the anime
>over 250 trainers
>every single one has 8 badges
>actually good teams
>actually facing good trainers
>you must win this league to even have a shoot at battling elite 4
>elite 4 is extremely OP
>Ash has ended between 8th and 4th in everytime
>out of over 250 trainers
>literally had to get beaten by a trainer with only legendaries to lose
>won battle frontier
You're fucking retarded m8
That doesn't make any sense. The higher in ranking he gets in a League decides how better he has gotten. He made Top 4 in the Sinnoh League which means he has done better than his OS self that got Top 16 in the Kanto League
You keep making this excuse but I still don't see Ash having won the league yet.
So what, people should start watching the Ashnime because he has a chance of winning the League in Gen 8, assuming he retains his rank from Gen 4 in Gen 6, makes top two in Gen 7, and finally wins in Gen 8 without the writers regressing him at any point whatsoever? We should call him a good trainer because MAYBE he'll win the League in ten years guys just be patient and ignore the fact that he STILL throws away all his best Pokémon to train new ones.
>So what, people should start watching the Ashnime because he has a chance of winning the League in Gen 8
What are you talking about? All Leagues have 256 trainers entering. If he made Top 16 in a League and then makes Top 4 in another one, that means he did better and his skills as a trainer have improved. You said you can't see him as a better tainer unless he wins the League and that is flawed logic. He can defeat every Champion in the world and still not win the League.
Well okay, let me rephrase. I don't see him as a GOOD trainer.
And there are plenty of Leagues in the world, he could at least camp out at one like Kanto where the competition wasn't very tough, Richie had NFEs on his team.
>one like Kanto where the competition wasn't very tough, Richie had NFEs on his team.
You're assuming the same trainers enter the same League. And even if they did, their Pokemon would have gotten stronger through the experience and/or have evolved.
I wish we had something like Tekken were you could download other player's teams and use them as a way to tournament in the game and use them to replace post E4 NPC teams.
The dome was top tier, I looved it. I wasted dozen on hours on it, trying to get the gold symbol.
I loved how after you get the gold symbol, all trainers in the tournament are actually pretty powerful, with sometimes semi-legendaries in their team, and how you aren't any more in the upper left place (this probably champion's slot), because how much the level stepped up.
you're complaining about a 2 second money shot of a place that's not only never seen again in the show, but was based on an actual specific location in Brooklyn NYC, so the attention to detail alone should earn them some credit.
Also, you're comparing it to an extremely low res screenshot.
>you're complaining about a 2 second money shot of a place that's not only never seen again in the show,
Im complaining about the terrible colors of Unova cities in the anime
yeah everything looks like pastels, its horse shit.
even worse considering Nimbasa's supposed to be a representation of the Time's Square area.
at least they didn't fuck Time's Square up in the movie version.
the league isn't that hard... i entered it about 2 years ago when i got 8 badges. yeah, the trainers were a LOT more challenging than the gym leaders i battled (granted the gym leaders hold back).. but i still made it to the top 32.
i didn't see ash there, but he does have a small reputation... like i heard random trainers mention his name before. hopefully, i'll win the next one, but im in college now and have to focus on my studies.
I'd rather just drop Ash, have him win the Kalos league and then next series make him the new protagonists' support, he can still explore new areas, get new Pokemon, but help some new trainer(s) take on the gyms instead of doing it himself.