>>25051012 >posts an image of Spongebob trying to stop a fight >deliberately starts a fight
Sad I've said this before and I'll say it again. Every gen has at least 1 good starter and at least 1 bad or subpar starter. There is no definitive loser Generation in terms of Starters. Its all purely subjective.
>>25051012 HA have recently made w of them more fun but holy shit fuck Unova starters >Fire/Fighting for the third fucking time in a row, trust me the kids will love it! >Hey lets make a pure grass type because those are always so useful! >Hey lets make this slow as balls water type! It'll be like blastoise but worst Fuck. Unova. Starters.
Seriously, the typings GF decided on for the Unova starters were literally the worst ones they could possibly choose. I don't even care THAT much about the designs I like Serperior and Emboar ain't bad, but what were they thinking? Was it some sort of sick joke?
>>25051012 Actually it's Johto. Cyndaquil looks OK but it's evolutions are lazy and the Chikorita and Totodile lines are literally two of the ugliest families in Pokémon, Totodile especially. Every form looks awful as fuck.
>>25051012 >All this monotype hate. You can do interesting things without having to slap on another type, just look at Serperior or Sceptile. In fact, my least favorite starter had a unique typing, doesn't stop it from being shit. I mean Empoleon
>>25051012 I love gen V but I agree, the starters are shit. Serperior without its hidden ability lags behind most other grass types in the region, it's weak as hell. Emboar is SLOW and all those recoil moves get irritating in game. Samurott is the best of the three and it's only average and kind of disappointing design-wise after Dewott.
>>25054751 >>25054755 Whats with all the hate on Chesnaught? A giant chipmunk juggernaut with a defensive shell pinned to it is pretty cool, and it completely changed in terms of design from its previous evolution.
>>25053143 Emboar isn't even "bulky", just a hard hitter. Also all of them are pretty trash without their HA (they didn't even released them in the same gen they have introduced the Dream World. Even then Samurott is still a mediocre mixed Feraligatr.
Speaking of Gen 2 which shares the negative record with Gen 5, Johto starters have a very shallow movepool and can't rely on solid coverage. Wish they had more buff and retcons through the gens, Meganium has even less moves than Flareon, can't even learn powder moves and Typhlosion has barely any acceptable way to boost when Charizard has 3 boosting moves and recovery.
>>25056377 Also all Unova starters were NU in Gen 5, on both PO and Smogon fanfic metas while Typhlosion was swinging between NU and the tier above, Meganium was again NU and even below and Feraligatr had a respectable niche in OU weather wars. Eventually Emboar followed thr Typhlosion and Charizard (which also had a less solid OU niche) swinging path. Bless Gen 6 for giving it Sucker Punch at least. Oh, and if I remember correctly Unova has the lowest BST of all starters.
I admit I kinda enjoyed using mixed Expert Belt Emboar with Scald to fuck around cores and stall pretending to be choiced. Same with Scarf Torterra.
>>25056400 Using what classification? Because Hoenn starters were pretty ugly, Swampert is the only decent competitively wise back then, Blaziken is still ugly since and Torchic needs its mandatory Everstone. Sceptile is still trash since Gen 3 even after getting a mega, in RS it was pure dead weight and major disappointment, terrible sprites over the gens too. Blaziken got better only because "lol random speed boost lmao" which fixed its main weak spot on purpose, design is still hideous. Swampert is the decemt one wih lot of versatility. Also Sinnoh starters are pretty good and were okay in their release gen except for Torterra maybe and got better through gens, they are also perhaps the best starter that depict and fit their nativ region and enviroment (unless we count Kanto which apparently is based on Jurassic Park since 90% of its dex consist of fucking same design dinosaurs and poisonous hazards), have an acceptable design too.
>>25056471 In Gen 3 Sceptile was the best SubSeeder since it was able to pull off offensive presence if you were able to control properly it's health. Leaf Blade, Leech Seed, Substitue and a coverage Move and the Petaya Berry as held item. It wasn't top tier, but it was nowhere near of being trash. Blaziken was on the same boat, it was the only Reversal User that was able to go Mixed thanks to Blaze, and also was the premier SkarmBliss killer. Most teams that relied on both Skarmory and Blissey as defensive cores packed always either fully defensive Suicune / Swampert to sponge Blaziken.
>>25056536 >comparing infernape to blaziken That's like comparing Salamence to Haxorus.
>Infernape has: - insant power - better mixed versatility - muh mentun - 4 viable priorities - 2 recovery forms - 5 ways to boost - instant speed and good base speed for choiced sets - can be used from the beginning of the game until the end - has 2 abilities to benefit from - less predictability - better coverage - taunt - smogon pebbles - frail - grass knot - gunk shot - rekt by bravest bird
Blaziken and M-Blaziken have: - outdated reversal - one slot for predictable protect or the need to risk it with substitute - can baton pass boosts - requires specific evsing to deal with common switch ins and eventual hp ice - has to pick between two risky fighting moves that are variable in power low kick and coin flip kick - flare blitz sips hp as much as the risky hjk, fire blast can be an option sometimes - frail - no recovery - debatable coverage - can be outspeed but common scarfed mons or bulky dragons / grounds / water and risking thunder wave or phazing forced to restart the set up with less hp - sd sweep can be handled with aqua jet or situationally with sash - knock off - knock off / shadow claw / stone edge to pick from to deal with either ghosts or bulky psychic or bulky part flying mons - is usually a late game cleaner or situational lead passer - rarely a revenge killer because has to play the 50/50 with either protect or opp switching into a check / counter diring that turn since its base speed is mediocre - pretty ugly tbqh impo but that's an opinion - rekt by bravest bird
They are very different despite sharing he same type.
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