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OLD THREAD: >>25028193

New? Check the pastebin for advice on starting the game, client information, a guide on the various theme decks/products you can redeem in-game and more.
>http://pastebin.com/gPEnw6GW

News/Legal List/Set scans/etc
>http://pokebeach.com/

How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges (Cheat Engine's speedhack strongly recommended to speed up AI games)
>unlock all locked cards in the three theme decks you're given at the start
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>Enter Theme format tournaments with basic green and get both hitters prized
>enter standard/expanded ticket tournaments and accept that you'll lose
>you'll get tradable tournament chests and sometimes a tradable pack
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>use the Trade section to trade the packs and chests for the shit you need
>if you don't know what deck you want to build yet, see http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/ for a list of viable decks or ask here

Your old cards are probably worthless.

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. For example, Top Cut Trading inc
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/25163-the-top-cut-trading-inc-2/

To get a general idea about what is strong in the Meta go there
http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/metagame-deck-discussion.250/

Pack codes are worth about 15-30 cents while other codes are worth around a dollar or two.

Tips for Code Giveaways:
>Never post them as text, even if they're missing a letter/number
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered

If you're interested in working on /vp/'s custom TCG, find their general in the catalog and post there.

TotT: Are there any new decks you're planning on building out of BREAKpoint?
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>>25046158
garchomp and something with manaphy, i love free retreat
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>>25046158
Water special energy and ace spec life dew


Good combo for expanded (personalised?)
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>>25046158
>Slowbro BREAK
>[C][C][C] Get Dunked On: When you use this attack, if you have 2 Prize cards remaining and your opponent's active Pokemon is a Pokemon-EX, you win the game.
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Anyone know if there's going to be a trainer box for Generations?
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>>25046158
>Walk-Off Homer

Tell me this is real.
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>>25046158
Trevenant Break/Bats
Trevenant Break/Gengar
Toad/Garbodor/Delinquent
Darkrai/Hypno
Mental Panic Malamar/Delinquent
Garchomp/Gallade
Frogs/Fisherman
Lickilicky/Delinquent
Houndoom/Bunnelby/Delinquent
Entei/Slowking
Pyroar/Espeon/Archeops in expanded

>they didn't print Marowak and Clemont

The set sucks.
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>>25046216
Bulbapedia says yes. Miracle Home Run in Japanese, Walk-Off Homer in English
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>>25046211
Yes.
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>>25046252
for the GENERATIONS booster packs.
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>>25046252
I mean with these
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Is Deck Wizard reliable? If not for making good decks, then at least for making a good jumping off point?
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so are slowbro cards just troll cards? because that seems overpowered but the one from the other thread looks completely useless
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>>25046274
vs seeker + lysandre = dead slowbro. it's a cool little card that will probably see a tiny bit of play as a come-from-behind tech, but you have a hard time actually getting to 1 prize with a fully charged slowbro on the field since its so flimsy. pretty well-balanced considering the normally wonky balance of the game in general.
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>>25046274
Why would you use its attack when you can just kill something and win?
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>>25046271
haha
hahaha

no
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>>25046271
NO
NO
NO!
The deck wizard is the worst way to make a deck.
However, I still love it for the off the walls crazy results it gives.
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>>25046257
>>25046262
My bad, probably not though
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You know what, it's been a while since we had deck wizard caps posted.
Let's do a few.
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>>25046350
Remember to set it to unlimited and pick random
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>>25046274
>>25046299
an attack that costs three energy
if you can attach a dce and another energy in a single turn you might as well use those energy on one of your attackers that got you the other 5 prize cards to win the game
Please tell me there isn't anyone dumb enough to actually consider this card?
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>>25046350
I think its funnier when you try to make it build actual real decks
this is deck wizards take on manectric bats
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>>25046437
>
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>>25046350
>make a fire and grass deck
>for whatever reason it puts in Rough Seas
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>>25046449
>one Tyranitar spirit link
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>>25046271
>Use Deck Wizard
>Want to make M Rayquaza deck
>Wizard puts M Sceptile Spirit Link in deck

Gee, I wonder.
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>>25046350
You like Groudon, don't you, Wizard?
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>>25046350
>deck wizard for shits and giggles
>it gives me a 59 card deck
>game glitches out and crashes
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Man this drawing has been fucking rough. Practicing with Yveltal/Gallade and my Maxie ability gets ruined by shit like turn 1 double Maxie with no balls/BC in sight or never seeing a VS Seeker unless it's accompanied by 2 more, usually before a BC. Just came from dead drawing a hand of Maxie, Gallade, VS Seeker and DCE with only a Yveltal and Shaymin on the board.
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Do we have a date on the Mew Box yet??
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>>25047002
Feb 22
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Were there untradeable Double Crisis cards? Did they come from packs or a Structure Deck?

Also is there a tradeable regular Latias? I want one.
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>>25046158
is the current bundle any good?
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Love thow Meganium is getting some love with this bundle, but I need HGSS base for the special print energies.
How many packs do you think they go for? What about the DCE?
tfw we will never get HGSS-era prints of fairy energy with Togetic or double dragon energy with kingdra
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>>25048029
I made a really quick rough mockup. The background is supposed to be the Sprout Tower (because you get the togepi egg at Violet City and there's no specifically fairy-based location)
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>>25047595

It's okay, but Undaunted is useless outside of unlimited thanks to the lack of reprints (Unleashed has 3, HGSS has 5 plus the Basic Energy, and CoL has the holo HGSS Energy).

>>25048029
>Love how Meganium is getting some love with this bundle.

Funnily enough, this isn't the first time the promo Meganium Prime's been available on the TCGO (it was a wheel prize 1-2 years ago along with the other promo Johto starter Primes).
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>PokeKyun collection's initial reveals are all shitmons
>then a passable Flareon-EX is shown
>then another decent Jirachi
>then the best Charmeleon yet

I'm not quite sure what to think. I guess they almost tried for the non-moeblobs.
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>>25048858
>M Gardevoir-EX
>A shitmon
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>>25048127
>there's no specifically fairy-based location
Except for the Fairy town in XY with the big tree.
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>>25048936
She's only "good" because she makes Fairy playable.
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>>25048939

True, but the thing about HGSS Energies is that they use locations that are associated with the Johto region.

>>25048945
>Only "good" because it makes Fairy playable.

Florges-EX also fills that role, but you do have sacrifice Fairy Garden for Sky Field if you want to OHKO EXs.

Oh, and...

>She
>
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>>25046689
Yeah in standard I find it hard for it to be consistent. I'm considering adding some maintenance to make playing Maxie's easier
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So what kind of booster packs should I be buying? There's all sorts of expansions and I just have no idea what to go for
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>>25049184
Phantom force for good uncommons, roaring skies for a lottery. The rest I rarely bother
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>>25049188

I want to make a gengar deck so then its phantom force what I should be wasting all my coins in?
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>>25049207
>coins
If you're talking about online, you definitely shouldn't be buying packs. Just trade for Gengar, shit's like 2 packs each.
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>>25049230
>you definitely shouldn't be buying packs

What

Then what am I supposed to do with all the coins?
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Are they going to change the contents of the Generations packs throughout the year?
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>>25049239

pls respond what the fuck
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>>25049826
Promos and bundles that you otherwise can't get
Packs will get you nothing you need. Even if you magically pull a good card, you definitely won't ever pull enough copies of it to make a deck with. Would you rather spend thousands of tokens praying to get a playset of whatever EX, or would you rather just trade six packs for all the copies you need
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>>25046158
>use the Trade section to trade the packs and chests for the shit you need
What if you don't know what you need?
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>>25050019
Find a deck you think is good, go for a standard deck cause they are usually cheaper, and copy it. Then go after the cards in that deck until it is complete. Now use that deck in ticket tournaments and win packs and chests, trade those winnings away for other cards you need for other good standard decks.
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How many mulligans do you think is reasonable for a deck that doesn't have Judge or Red Card? I think 2 or 3 is OK.
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>>25049894

You can always pull the card you want as long as you believe in the heart of the cards
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>>25050129
I feel like 0.

What deck doesn't use judge? What are you using as draw support instead? 4 Sycamore isn't nearly enough
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Do you have to wait for the end of a tournament to get a prize?
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>>25046158
How do I get PTCGO to work? It crashes with "Write to location 00000000 caused an access violation."

See the dump here: http://pastebin.com/2eWnDX9E
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>>25050193
No. You can leave tournament early and start another games - still you will get prizes
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>>25050263
please help me. Is there anyone else with this problem?
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>>25050328
Probably some rare issue. Try to check on forums or write to some admins.
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http://www.pokebeach.com/2016/01/fates-collide-americas-xy10-set

>Fates Collide will feature Zygarde in its many different Formes, Alakazam-EX, M Alakazam-EX, Altaria-EX, M Altaria-EX, Umbreon-EX, and Lugia BREAK. This means these Pokemon will likely be in Japan’s own XY10 set, Awakening of Psychic Kings, which will be released on March 18th.

>There will be over 120 cards in the set, including five Pokemon BREAK, 10 regular Pokemon-EX, and three Mega Evolution Pokemon-EX (Alakazam, Altaria, and an unknown). So there will be 13 Pokemon-EX total.

>lugia break
so break evolutions aren't actually for evolutions anymore. PCL probably are too shit to be able to make them good so they just make their precious little big basics even more OP instead

also that 'mystery' third break evo will probably be audino. two moeblobs and m-alakazam for megas. probably not the best choice for selling packs.
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>>25050546
>M Alakazam-EX
>Umbreon-EX
Nice.
>at least 10 different Zygarde cards
Fuck.
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>>25050546
>lugia BREAK
oh baby
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>about to lose to guy with 2 different mewtwo EX cards
>getting shitty hands with no energy, supporters, or basics
>luck out enough to Paralyze him 3 times and weaken one of the mewtwos
>he switches to the other
>Paralyze the other one 3 times in a row until it fails
>die but Mewtwo is still weak enough to get defeated by next Pokemon
>beat it
>he switches out to other Mewtwo
>they concede right after
>one of the first things he told me was that he plans on putting out M Mewtwo X
This is why you never give up. Even if you're not good, you can fake it.
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>>25050917
>running Mewtwo X online
>running M Mewtwo X ever
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>"During your opponent's next turn, prevent all effects, including damage, done to Umbreon by attacks from your opponent's Pokémon that has any Poké-Powers or Poké-Bodies."

Since B&W Poke-Powers and Poke-Bodies are made into Ablities.

So does that shit work for Abilities? Because TCG:O basically doesn't care about that.
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>>25051059
Is it not a big deal?
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>>25051115
No. The only reason to run Mewtwo X is as a tech and there's no reason to run M Mewtwo X.
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>>25051109

Nope, Poke-Bodies and Poke-Powers are considered separate from Abilities.

>>25051127
>>25051059

Looks like somebody didn't read the free portion of the recent Pokebeach article on City Championship decks.
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So, is there a place to print checklists for all the sets?

I spent the past 5 hours going through my cards, pulling doubles, and putting them in binders. I still have one last stack that's about 15 inches high though.

Almost fucking done.
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>>25051157
Are you joking?
>need to have a Stadium in play and 4 energy just to do 200 damage
>need to run 5 stadiums for consistency
M Mewtwo X is trash. Just because some nobody posted it as a premium article doesn't mean it's good.
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Also, what does this Wizard watermark mean?
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Who /collectonly/ here?

I'm excited for the new sets, but I don't know if my wallet can take it. can't wait to finally get M-Audino and M-Altaria
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>>25050162
Giovanni's Scheme.
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>>25051275

It was given out in TopDeck, which was a WotC magazine before it folded in the early 2000s
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>>25051157

Pokebeach are trashcans who just play the same braindead shit everyone else does and think they're good at the game

When I read about one of them gloating how great they were for getting a lucky blind Red Card on an opponent and then just swinging with Lucario-EX all game it may just have been the hardest I've ever dropped a website's articles
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>>25051272
It's not impossible to set up but it is nice in a deck that just runs Mewtwo only as an answer to Regice.
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>>25050162
Judge isn't a draw supporter, and 4 Sycamore is fine if you build your deck with enough consistency.
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dead thread bump
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This client is fucking awful. It's like every game the RNG chooses a winner. Dead draw in a deck full of draw support, then the next game my poor opponent literally mulligan'd 9 times.
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Alright this game does not want me to play Maxie/Archie, I can never draw what I need no matter how specialized I make my deck. Wasn't like this a month ago, I could turn one Maxie about 50% of the time and almost always by turn 2, now I consistently draw my stage 2s or both Maxies/Archies and never see Balls or VS Seekers to manage my hand. Good thing Yveltal is fine on its own.

>opening is Shaymin, Gallade, Gallade, DCE, Maxie, Maxie and Zoroark
>top deck is acro, dark energy or dce
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Looks like yveltal survives whatever the next rotation is.
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>>25053696
oh god no.. Its beautiful
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>>25053696
>guys what if
>here me out
>what if we
>come on listen
>what if we just never
>guys
>if we just never have a rotation, we just reprint everything over and over so Standard stays the same for four years straight
Toad and Laserbank reprints soon
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>>25053696
hopefully this confirms geomancy xerneas reprint as well
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>>25053710
>reprint everything but not exactly
>change the numbers very slightly so people still have to buy the newest versions of cards

I want this now.
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>>25053696
Thank fucking god because Dark would be lost without it. Now just reprint Xerneas, Landorus, Korrina and Blacksmith and rotation won't kill off half the types.
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>>25053711
pls, and aromatisse pls
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won 20 games today, clearing 3 "knock out 16 pokemon" quests along the way, the get the 2nd dragonite

I doubt it'll ever be useful but who knows

maybe I'll need the next FA trainer and go ham for it
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That side boob
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>>25054071
>Skyla, a supporter only ever used as a one-of in some decks, gets two full arts
>Sycamore and Hex Maniac, literal staples in every deck, have 0
>waifufags will defend this
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Super new, just got 2 tradable uncommon reward chests, what can/should i trade them for?
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>>25054121

back in the deck some decks had like 3 skyla in them senpai
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>>25054153
Put up a public trade asking for like 8+ staples you're after
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>>25054189
Who gives a shit
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>>25054193
is it a good deal to give both for 4 gastly, haunter, and gengar?
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>>25047002
22 of next month. Fucking excited! I love mew! You guys mind if I post my mew collection so far?
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>>25054202
Mew anon here

I wanna see it
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>>25054204
I also have a collection of mew plush and old still in box toys. Mew has been my favorite since I went to see the first movie in theaters.

Also not pictured is the 2006 Mew tcg coin from shadowquake I still play with.
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>>25054196
ok, trade is up for 8 hours, any anons here to take it, please do...
>Name is Gergothical
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>>25054196
You can probably do that trade, but if you're new, are you sure you want your first deck to be Gengar, especially without the rest of the deck?
If you go with it, just make sure you put up 1 chest for 2-2-2 instead of 2 for 4-4-4
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>>25054211
noice
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>>25054220
well i already opened genger ex and mewtwo ex, so i think i can pull off a midtier psychic deck and build to gengar
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>>25054211
Great collection man, it's pretty far along. Mew is also my favorite 'mon, has been ever since I first read about in the RBY guidebook. I don't have much outside of this tcg collection but I would love to pick up any other Mew merch if given the opportunity, especially next month's box.
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>>25054224
I have a problem man! Also since I work at gamestop I'm probably going to buy all the boxes at the end of the day when it comes out.

>get to take home the tcg posters and stands

>>25054239
Woah nice! Not a fan of the shiny though. Pink is the one I collect. I'll take a picture of my toys too.
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>>25054251
at least it's not crack
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>>25054239
>>25054262
It's getting to be about as expensive... Dat employee discount on packs though.

Here are my toys and like 2/22 of my plush collection.
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these austic collcetions make me happy I can all my weird collections and things inside a harddrive and don't have any physical things that would reveal my powerlevel
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>>25054274
tfw only nearby store selling pokemon merch is $80 for a fucking pocketsize plushie
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>>25054195

people who don't enjoy being lied to, probably
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>>25054280
Posting my collection reminds me I've never had a boy in my room... Thanks anon.
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>>25054153
newfag back, any other places i can show my trade to attract more people?
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>>25054294
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>>25054286
What? Who's lying?
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>>25054274
>That japanese Mew toy
Holy fuck, I remember having that one. Gosh, I miss those toys.
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>>25054313

follow the line of conversation to find out!

it'll be like you're sherlock holmes or some shit
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>>25054189
Skyla's still used today, too
The 2slow meme is really stopping people from running an important card for some decks
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>>25054326
Someone said Skyla is just a one of now, doesn't need two full arts

Someone else for some reason said it used to be run in three's several formats ago

Both of these are true statements. No one lied.
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>>25054352
bUT wHICh iS MORE TruuUEee?
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>>25054352
>Someone said Skyla is just a one of now, doesn't need two full arts

>Skyla, a supporter only ever used as a one-of in some decks, gets two full arts

something here doesn't match up

>only ever

there it is!
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Hey guys my dad is mr pokemon and the next FA from the vs ladder will be Professor Birches Observations!
Just kidding its lysandres trump card
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>>25054410
Fuck you my dad is mr pokemon and next fa is octillery!
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>>25054153
>7 mana to discard a player's hand
What a shit card
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>>25054549
0/10 worst item
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>>25054410

Give this man a medal, he got it right.

Oh, and the regular Pokemon are Bronzong PLF and Aegislash PRC.
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>>25054667
>2x Dialga
>A fourth Bronzong to square me out
I'm okay with this, it's the first ladder that doesn't have shit I already have or JUST traded for
Does the ladder have the rare chests like they promised?
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>best deck for theme versus?
Im using basic green, what do you guys use?
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>>25054721
basic green is pretty much the best now yeah

>>25054667
watch me predict Maxies hidden balltrick for the next one and fail.
Anyways my dad is mr Pokemon and he said it would be Maxies hidden ball trick
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>>25054721

I use basic green and blue, depending on what I'm feeling.

>>25054756

basic green vs basic blue is really close to be fair and it's a really interesting matchup

it's probably the closest thing to a "skilled" theme deck matchup if you can believe that such a thing could exist
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>>25054674

It looks like it, they did alter the amount you get.

But I can confirm that the first chest is still an Uncommon Chest.
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>>25054796
Just checked, they replaced the 8x chest reward with 1x rare chest.
Non-tradable SR UB here I come
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>>25054804
What con you find in the rare chests?
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Any thoughts as to what I should take out for Delinquent?

>>25046158
> TotT: Are there any new decks you're planning on building out of BREAKpoint?

Garchomp BKT
Toad/Garb
Sylveon/Garb
Trevenant BREAK
Houndoom/Bunnelby with Delinquent.
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>>25054828
Anything holo-rare or above, including FAs and SRs. For reference, each pack normally has as many holo-rares as they do EXs.
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>>25054835
Do chests only contain standard cards?
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>>25054831
Xerosics or Grunts. You might also want to drop Vest/Charm for Fighting Fury Belt.
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>BREAKpoint prerelease happening this Sunday.

Good, now I'll have some fun.

>>25054840

Unfortunately they do, so >>25054804 dream of owning a SR Ultra Ball is one he might not see.

But hey, at least he'll get that FA Shaymin-EX he's been wanting.
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>>25054835
Thanks
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>>25054866
I think I might buy a box. Through was literal trash, but point seems like it'll have some good shit
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>>25054976
In terms of usable cards, Breakthrough had Zoroark, Gallade, Octillery, Mewtwos, Magnezone, Raikou, Typhlosion, Houndoom, Skyla, Float Stone, Assault Vest, Fisherman, Heavy Ball, Super Rod, Giovanni, Parallel City, and Rainbow Energy off the top of my head.

Breakpoint has Greninja, Gyarados, Manaphy, Golduck, Garbodor, Garchomp, Trevenant, Scizor, Max Elixer, Fighting Fury Belt, Delinquent, and Reverse Valley.

I think they're about the same. I personally feel Breakthrough had a bigger meta impact off Zoroark, Gallade, Octillery, and Mewtwo alone, whereas only Garbodor and maybe Scizor look viable, not counting the Belt.
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>>25054787
gr8, ive been using basic green exclusively
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>>25053712
I don't think it works like that with the Pokemon themselves, does it? In a deck you may have up to four different cards with the same Pokemon name so a shittier Seismitoad-EX could still be played along the existing one provided they're in the same format, like what people do with Mega Mewtwo X and shit.

Going by Gen 5 and even Platinum's Charmander line reprint we all know that rotated-out Pokemon that are functionally identical to a T to a reprint in rotation can still be used like with the Trainers
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Well, with the impending doom that this snowstorm is bringing to the east coast, I don't think I'll make any of the pre-releases this weekend. However next weekend there are 2 within an hour of my place so maybe I'll make the trek. Any anons going to a pre-release this weekend?
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>>25055245
You're misunderstanding
The point is that the new subset and Breakpoint have cards that are either literal reprints or just slightly different. Yveltal, M Gardevoir, Flareon EX, Manaphy, Greninja, Mind Reading, Fighting Fury Belt, Golduck, Raticate, the list goes on. There's virtually no innovation. The most creative cards in the set are OP's Slowbro, the shitty Meganium, and the absolutely unplayable Ho-oh, which is pathetic.

We might as well not even have had a rotation if we're just going to get the exact same shit again.
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You think we'll lose EX cards like we lost level x? I feel like they're trying to transition us to break cards.
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>>25055310
Once we start seeing non-EX Mega Pokemon, then maybe. I'm actually surprised Break Pokemon didn't end up being that, all things considered.
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>>25055302
>We might as well not even have had a rotation if we're just going to get the exact same shit again.

That's entirely true

I have a feeling the current PCL staff were hired from Gen 5 or something and can't figure out what the fuck to do
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>>25055310
Nah, break is a gimmick like Ancient Trait was and will be gone by the time Z rolls around and they have actual content to use instead of needing filler.

EX has been here since technically R/S times. It's further been here as we know it since like HG/SS. It's not going anywhere
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>only 15 pokémon and 20 trainer cards missing for completing Gym Heroes / Gym Challenge cube
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>>25055298
Where on the east coast?
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>>25055731
I'm just outside of Gettysburg PA and the snows hitting all round us. Supposed to get 2 ft.
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>>25054992

>Typhlosion is usable

Bloody hell, who managed to get it to work?
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>>25056467
...you mill two energies and it hits for 160. Mill three and you KO anything in the game off one energy attach. Not really that hard to figure out.
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>>25056492

Doing that consistently without dying to the average EXbabby swinging horizontally at you all game? It's not like there's a way to control your topdecks a la Platinum Delcatty.
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>>25056504
Stage 2 Pokemon are slow, but they're not so slow that you auto-lose against big basics. And the chances of getting at least two fire energies off a five-card mill isn't that low.
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>>25054071
Is this already out?
Man, I must be behind the times
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>>25056530

Prereleases are happening this week and next.
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Any viable Lucario decks around?
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>>25056742

Lucario-EX is not only one of the more consistent decks, but also requires about 12 IQ to play.

Use it alongside FuF Hawlucha and PHF Crobat for an utterly brainless way to defeat most decks.
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Frosslass being a more viable Chandelure. Maybe Gengar can crack this meta after all..
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>>25056770
Name a deck that takes skill.
I'm serious.
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>>25056770
Where can I find the complete decklist?
Sorry im new
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>>25056781

I can't.
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GLACEON EX FUCKING WHEN?!?!?!?! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YEARS
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>>25056781
Vespiquen/Vileplume
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>>25057023

>making half of each player's deck do nothing so that they have fuck all to think about each turn
>requiring skill

oh wow my turn is draw, play supporter, maybe attach or evolve and attack, nothing else to it
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>>25057052
Except you have to take prizes to win, and you have to do it faster than your opponent. Which takes skill, because you have to know when and when not to turn off your item lock.

But if your dumb ass thinks it's so easy go ahead and throw it together on PTCGO and see how many wins you get.
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>>25057066
I'm struggling to think of a situation where you can turn off your own lock but not turn it back on before your turn ends.
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>>25057066

PTCGO is unplayable how the hell do people actually do anything on there
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>>25057103
>PTCGO is unplayable
???
What kind of autism is keeping you from using it?
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>>25057089
AZ + FoGP. But yes, Hex Maniac'ing your own Vileplume does let your opponent use items, which is why you have to be very careful and precise about when you use it.
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>>25057113

Constant gamebreaking glitches.
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>>25057171
I have 100+ full decks in all three game modes that I switch between constantly, and I've played this game enough to have finished every ladder to date with 4000+ points. I can count the glitches I've experienced on one hand, and half of them were connection problems. I have a big enough sample size to suggest this isn't anecdotal or coincidental.
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>tfw a Night March conceded to my deck on turn 1.

Oh my God, the salt...

>>25057120

Which is why most players pair Vileplume with either Giratina (with Tool-lock, Stadium-Lock, and Special Energy Lock) and MIltank FLF (hits like a Mack truck for only one Energy and only gives up one Prize card if KO'd) for Standard.

And for Expanded, people just say "fuck that noise" and run Toad alongside Giratina-EX.
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>>25057421
Regice is also a common pairing. But the one thing all these Vileplume have in common is that they didn't do as well as Vespiquen/Vileplume during Cities.
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>>25056948
>post yfw it is a shit card
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When's the next Team Rocket expansion?
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I'm getting really fucking bored of never getting good games any more. Every match is decided on turn one these days, or by who goes first. They must've fucked up the RNG or something because pre-Breakthrough it wasn't this boring. It's a near certainty either I or my opponent gets an unusable, statistically unlikely starting hand it seems.
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>>25056781
Night March
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>>25056781
Yvetal
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>>25056781
Shiftry in unlimited.

No really, you need a competent deck and drawing knowledge to be consistent.
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Should I go to a pre-release tomorrow? I've never played the game in real life so I'm anxious about going.
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post worst opening hands
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>>25058010
Do it
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>>25058019
Every fucking game I play is a hand like that.
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>>25058019
My top 8 cities hand, He mulligand twice.
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>>25058175
>complaining about that

Fuck off. Call me when every game you play is support mon start and 2-3 of the same non-draw item with no way to win, while going second 19/20 games.
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Can't wait to open the new boxes
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Im going to a pre release tomorrow as someone who has not played since hgss how has the meta changed and are there any leaks of the new cards?
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>>25057917

Never.

>>25057971
>Night March
>A deck that requires skill.

My sides.

But I will admit it's a good way to filter out idiots.

>>25058340
>and are there any leaks of the new cards?

Yep, we got a set leak a while ago.

>http://www.pokebeach.com/2016/01/full-breakpoint-set-list
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>>25058378
Night March with Mew required skill. Now it's all luck of the draw with who wins the coinflip potentially deciding the winner.
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>>25057999

Even then you'll need to flip heads like a God and don't run into Wobbuffet
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>>25058386
>Night March with Mew required skill.

And even then, you'd have to be careful of shit Like GarboToad locking you out on T2 (or T1 if they were running Wally or Silent Lab).

>>25058388
>and don't run into Wobbuffet

Or run into a Pokemon with Theta Stop.
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>>25058388
Run Mewtwo + DCE + Laser + Muscle Band. Run Seeker + Jirachi for a guaranteed kill + Shaymin/Shiftry pickup. Run Shauna for the possible double Celebi stallout. Run Escape Rope for the occasional Wobbuffet with a bat on the bench. You'll still lose to multiple Wobs if they run Flare or EH, but it gives you the chance to win against him.

Really the only losses I get are the RNG fucking me like prized cards or decks that get off 3 or more Wobuffets turn one and have hammers.
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>waiting for a way to get a Jirachi to finish my deck
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>>25051059
>>25051127
>>25051272
Your obviously to thick headed to see that M-mewtwo x is viable. Dimension valley for starters making his attack that OHKOs mostly everything in the game only cost 3 energies. Mega turbo is a card as well as lando for energy cheats.(max elixir soon). I have and run this deck btw. So in the time it takes (turn 2) them to ko my lando I have a 220hp monster who can hit for 200damage with no drawback... sounds like trash to me your right
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Yo, Yesterdays newfag here, are there any forums or anything where i can show off my trade and attract more people?
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Ariados/RaticateBREAK is going to be the best deck to come out of BREAKpoint
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>>25058629
>110 HP
>total dependence on Wally
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Espeon ex, Archeops, and Pyroar is going to suck. Might need to run more than one Sex maniac and 3 vs seekers if it catches popularity.
It's alot of set up but what can you do without maniacs when it is set up?
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why did they have to introduce break when its the exact same as lv.X ?
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>>25058834
lvl x is not sideways
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>>25058834
BREAK is objectively worse than Lv. X.
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>>25058834
BREAK EX WHEN????????????????????????????????????????
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>>25059107

>BREAK EX

That's basically what a Mega EX is
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>>25059107
Octillery EX Lv X BREAK when
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>>25059133
BREAK M EX WHEN??????????????????????????????????
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>there is no Ditto EX that's ability is to evolve into any pokemon
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>>25059145
Does the new pokemon it becomes also become an ex?
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>>25058758
Tyrantrum and Espeon can hit Pyroar.
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We need Seismitoad-EX BREAK
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>>25059160
yeah a handfull of mons can hit through abilities true but it'll still shut down like 80% of all decks in the game. I guess I forgot about wobbafet as well.
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>>25059263
yeah, lets also reprint everything needed for the figban deck while were at it.
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Where does /vp/ think the new Garchomp belongs? I want to use the previous Gabite that can set your bench up with dragons but he cannot find this Garchomp. Maybe thinning the deck that much makes it viable? Or should we just 4-2-4 with rare candies?

Garchomp – Fighting – HP130
Stage 2 – Evolves from Gabite

[F] Assault Turbo: 60 damage. Choose 1 Energy card in your discard pile and attach it to one of your Pokemon.

[F][F] Biting Pledge: 80+ damage. If your opponent’s Active Pokemon is a Pokemon-EX, this attack does 80 more damage.

Weakness: Grass (x2)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 0
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>>25059145
wouldn't that break rare candy
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>>25059491
It'd be a low HP EX only good for evolving that cannot be Wallied. Seems balanced to me since you can still use Maxie and Archie for turn 1.
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>>25059142
M RAYQUAZA-EX BREAK LV.X PRIME LEGEND

Also pic related kawaii af
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>>25059765

>Charmander and Charmeleon is 3 and 4/32
>Flareon EX is 6/32
>This might mean there will be a Charizard

So tell me TCGG, how would PCL make Charizard "cute"?
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>>25059804
Very carefully.
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What deck should I play if I want a loli girlfriend?
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>>25059765
It's more cute than i expected, and also playable
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>>25059765
Jesus that's so damn cute
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>>25060181
Dugtrio/Eeveelutions

source?
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>>25060483
>source?
Post a cute image and I'll give you the source.
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>>25060531
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>>25060548
Too lewd
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>>25060548
fuck
all i really have are lewds
how about this
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>>25060573
Shana a shit
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>>25060574
>>25060557
Not the anon who asked but hows this?
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>>25060574
i just went on exhentai and grabbed the cover of the first loli comic i found
what's shana from
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>>25060577
Poorly drawn but it is sufficiently cute.
https://hitomi.la/galleries/775267.html
>>25060583
Shakugan no Shana
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>>25060589
S-sorry sempai..
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TIME TO WELCOME PRIMAL KYOGRE BACK TO THE TOP OF THE HEAP GENTLEMEN!
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>>25060728
NOW WITH ACCELERATION!!
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>>25060728
Oh shit, I didn't even consider Kyogre when I saw that card. I might have to get some now.
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Now that Charizard, Venusaur, and Blastoise are all but confirmed to be getting spirit links, which of the megas do you see people using? I have no idea about which Charizard we'll see more of. The new Charizard mega is obviosuly great attacking but the other two still one shot everything though at great expense. Energy acceleration wont be that much of a problem with the new Basic Charizard EX, and Basic EX Hounddoom helping in a capacity.

Blasoise new Mega and basic EX from Generations hasn't been revealed yet but the XY Mega was tremendously powerful and now will be actually useful with a spirit link to get it out faster.
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>>25060769
I'd say the XY M-Venusaur will be fucking shit up if it can get its energys on it quickly and now it wont be missing a turn either. Unless an opponent has a switch or some other means to rush, in M-Venu is going to be 2-shotting everything with no rebuttle. Garuanteed prize take.
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>>25060744
He's basically filling the void that Keldeo EX left when he was rotated out.
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>>25060777
Is there any grass acceleration?
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>>25060797
Only one that comes to mind off the top of my head. But having two megas in your deck seems a bit impractical
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>>25054211
>>25054239

Triggered.

>nine years ago, I am sixteen, going to National Championships for the second time
>I give my only good deck to my friend because I want for him to do well
>play a tier 3 deck without most of the cards required to make it work
>turn around to watch my friend's match for a bit
>my binder is gone
>the entire collection of every valuable card I had owned since I was seven years old is gone
>My entire mew collection
>my complete set of Shining 1st editions
>in my southern islands binder

My salt will NEVER fade.

Now my Mew collection consists of only the DRX Mew EXs and a fire delta Mew.
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>>25060728
Saying Kyogre was ever at the top of anything is a stretch.

Nicest thing I can say is that Vespiquen is far less prevalent than it was, so it has that going for it.
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>>25060863
Hey at least he'll be viable once more. The new Palkia with energy acceleration will help too. Manaphy healing along with rough seas. All that switching and energy transferring. Will be even harder to deal with once it gets going than it was before possibly. Suicunes walling will be missed
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>>25059804
of course there's a charizard. this entire line is just a recreation of the emboar line they did in the bw block. it's cute because we all wish we were that kid with real pokemon and grow old with our bros ;-;
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>>25059465
desu just run it as a 1-of with a copy of maxie like some decks run gallade and archeops. running 2 or 4 vs 14 cards for one Pokemon makes an obvious difference on your consistency.
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>>25061064
>the kid in the Charmander and Charmeleon cards is alone in them with nothing but his pokemon
>the last card will show the kid as an old man on a hospital bed with no kids reading a book with his Charizard
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>>25061064
>That progression
Never noticed that. Neat
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>>25049894

I'm still confused

So should I use the coins to get packs and then trade them? What bundles and promos are you talking about?
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>>25061064
>Tepig looking at the mother's tits
>Pignite looking at the sister while she's reaching for his crotch
>The sister's peace sign while rubbing up against Emboar
>Emboar looking at his master's child
I think that was a faithful Tepig, that likes them young when it got older.
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>>25059465
Just run it as a 3-1-3 or 4-2-4.
People seriously need to stop being afraid of the Stage 2 meme. Stage 2 decks don't auto-lose to big basics, they only had a problem past format because Toad, the deck with FOUR TIMES THE WINRATE of the next best deck locked you out of Candies and Balls, which are critical for evolution decks.

The game's a shitload faster than pre-RS thanks to Shaymin showing up and Toad dying.
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>>25061213
>So should I use the coins to get packs and then trade them?

Packs/cards obtained via tokens aren't tradable by default, so that's kind of a moot point.

>What bundles and promos are you talking about?

Like pic related (which nets you 3 Undaunted booster packs and a promo Meganium Prime for 650 tokens) or last week's bundle (which gave you 4 BREAKthrough packs, a RH Pyroar FLF line, and Pyroar sleeves).

But when a new bundle comes up pay attention to what folks say about it, the current bundle is only useful in Unlimited.
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>>25061256
>useful in unlimited
heheheh, funny goi
357
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>>25061256
While you're here, do you know what promos we'll be getting for Breakpoint? I don't want to miss out on another Jirachi.
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>>25061290

They were revealed a while ago, the three-pack blisters will have a Pyroar PHF reprint and the promo Umbreon Japan got while the one-pack blisters will have a Hydreigon reprint or a promo Pikachu.

Oh, and the set's prerelease promo will be Trevenant.
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>>25061317
>a Hydreigon reprint
*a Hydreigon PHF reprint

Sorry about that, I forgot the set abbreviation.
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>>25061317
>Hydreigon and Pyroar reprint
>Useless Umbreon
At least this Pikachu has 10/10 art, I'll have to pick up a set for Raichu.
Do we have art of the reprints, or is it the same?
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>>25061324

It's the same art, they're just reprinted with the galaxy holofoil.
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>Search your deck for up to 4 Lightning Energy cards, reveal them, and put them into your hand. Shuffle your deck afterward.
Any reason no one's talking about this, what with Magnezone being a thing?
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>>25061411
People unironically play Magnezone?
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>>25061477
People unironically play this garbage card game instead of the dozens of other deeper ones, how high is your horse?
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>>25061480
>instead of
>Not playing 3 or more card games at once
lol
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>>25061489
>Not playing Magnazone and every other deck at once
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>>25061491
>Playing bad decks
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>>25061500
>Playing bad card games
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>>25061503
>playing bad
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>>25061508
P-playing?
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>>25061519
>not collecting
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>>25059145
>Ditto EX
>Fitto pokemon cards

Wait
Holy shit

How many Ditto cards even are there? I can only actually think of one, and It was from Basic/Jungle/Fossil
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>>25060733
>acceleration
>hit the same turn or later if mega turbo
b8
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>>25060777
I used to think this, but then I remembered pic related. They're virtually the same card, except M Ampharos does more damage, has more type support, a lot more energy acceleration options, better typing (Yveltal), and a significantly better energy cost. Not to mention its base form is better, since it accelerates itself and offers an out to Regice.
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>>25057421
Going to locals today and wanna stomp night march as much as possible, could Iget a deck list?
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>>25061641
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ditto_(XY_Promo_40) is the most recent.

Remember in the FRLG era there were all those interchangeable Ditto that were just various Pokémon toys with Ditto face?
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>>25061788
>Early 2016
>STILL using Night March

You guys are worse than Idolfaggots
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>>25061816
That's why I want to curb stomp it into nothing, there's at least 4 people playing it out of 13 people, I want them scrubbed out so bad they have to play something else.
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>>25061816
What's wrong with playing the best standard deck
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>>25061850
>night march
>best standard deck
My sides will not recover from this
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>>25061855
http://thecharizardlounge.com/tournament-results/2015-2016-city-championship-results/
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>>25061861
>Cities
>came 4th
What part of this makes it the best deck?
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>>25061881
You misread something. Night March is currently the most successful deck.

>Cities
This is a new format, since everything since the rotation was Expanded or mixed. Until we get proper regionals, these results are what decide the format for now and hint at what you should prepare for come the bigger tournaments.

Ignoring these results is negligent.
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UK fag here.
I started collecting from about early summer last year, and most of my packs have come from Argos and a few blisters from Tesco. Is there any website or shops that's legitimately good for single packs? On that note, best place to get binders/sleeves?
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>>25061899
God I hate nightmarch fags.
>Hur-der It's not a tournament winning deck or anything why the butthurt?
Doesn't need to be a tournament winning deck to have a stupid high win rate and everybody and their mother using it. I just find it annoying and usually the person playing the deck is cancerous as well.
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>>25062122
>any website or shops that's legitimately good for single packs?
How much are you paying for packs at the moment?
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>>25062249
>being this assravaged over a card game
kek
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>>25062301
See here it comes, the nighmarchs fags that is.
desu I'm not even mad tho, lol. Have fun using a deck that plays itself out and takes no skill to use :)
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>want to attend prerelease event today
>blizzard outside
fuck
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>>25062313

>live in rural bumfuck, Long Island NY
>even the biggest card shop on the island doesnt do Pokemon prereleases

Fuck you, Brothers Grimm. Fuck you AND that cunt employee with the greasy sideburns.
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>>25062249
These are still just cities results. Just wait until we see what's happening in Regionals before we jump to conclusion; after all, Night March only has 34 1st Place wins out of 229 events, and a 15% presence that's only a half a percent ahead of the next best deck.

But then again, Breakpoint's giving it a lot of new tools. Mind Reading to help set up, Fighting Fury Belt to make Pumpkaboo sit at 100 HP, and Max Elixer to soften the deck's reliance on DCE and Dimensional Valley will just make it better overall.
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>>25062312
>not even mad tho
>lelele have fun playing your skilless scrub cancer deck git gud XDDD

stay mad
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>>25062385
I'm not tho...and I find that ptcgo has no skill involved...you play what you are dealt(like that's skillful).
>git gud
this makes me laugh
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So, printable card checklists, starting from base/basic all the way to the current set. Where can I find them?
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>>25062343
>Long Island NY
So the closes store to you is in the city then? dang, that sucks.
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>>25062422


What sucks is that we have a ton of card shops/comic shops that sell cards. But they all do Magic prereleases, and some anime card game which is really popular.
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>>25062497

One of the bigger problems with Pokemon prereleases is that whatever store gets it is determined by local area's PTO. The following is basically who runs those kind of events

Magic: Local store approved by WotC (used to be PTO only, so they had ridiculous monopoly over it and they were huge events)
Pokemon: PTO of the area
YGO: Local store approved by Konami
CFV: Local store approved by Bushiroad
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>>25062347
>These are still just cities results. Just wait until we see what's happening in Regionals before we jump to conclusion

They're two different formats, it'll be difficult to compare them.
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>>25062551
I read that they're both going to be Standard, are they not?
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>>25062570

Regionals is Expanded only now IIRC, it was Standard Day 1 / Expanded Top Cut before
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Is Virizion EX valuable, or something?
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>>25062584
Just checked
Regionals are Expanded, but States and Nats are Standard
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>>25062301
>a card game

It's more than a card game, it's my life
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>>25062570
>>25062584
Regionals: expanded
Cities: standard/expanded
States, Nationals, Worlds: standard
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>>25062667

>Expanded Cities

Should I assume that is done at the organizer's discretion?
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>>25062635
Not really. Only used in expanded, and not in a lot of decks.
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>>25062680
Yeah it was up to the TO.
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When cataloging cards, what am I supposed to do about 1st editions? Do they belong to their own set? I completely forgot.
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>>25054239
You need the mcdonalds mew
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>League promos are now Mirror holos instead of the usual Crosshatch holos.

Jesus Christ, TPCi...

But then again, the tournament promos were switched as well so I can't say it wasn't expected.
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>>25062682
So would it be worth trading the one I have for a bunch of packs, or just sit on it?
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Trading 3 flashfire packs for a star dust Jirachi
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>>25062777
Not sure if you're being ironic, but they're valued at 80+ RS.
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>>25062777
>3 Flashfire packs for Jirachi XY67
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I believe the only pack for singles conversion for ptcgo is on reddit now and is dated back to I think double crisis. I could be wrong on that but I know it's dated. Are there any other more up to date lists? I mean so much has changed with all the new sets and meta shifts. We have nothing to go by for new cards. Who makes these lists because we need a new one.
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>>25062873

Check the TCGO forums, ya dern fool!
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>>25062915
Sorry we cant find that, every time now. I could still be an idiot but I think they are gone
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>>25062925

It was the first result on Google for "TCGO forum" you lazy piece of shit.

>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/forum/1-english/
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>>25062949
that's cool, be a bitch more?
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I've been getting my shit kicked in the past few days no matter what I try, whether flareon, night march, vespiquen, even manectric + Bats. It doesn't really help that I'm just getting back into the game after leaving before roaring skies dropped. Any deck suggestions?
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>>25063176
pick an ex+bats
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>attend prerelease
>only pulled Suicune & Garchomp
Least I pulled pokemon I like ;_;
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>have to get 15 fighting pokemon knockouts for daily bullshit
>only ever get pitted against psychic decks now
>wtfisthishellsavemefromthemonsterivebecome
>finally a fire deck, has pyroar but I can beat it
>opening hand has mostly energies, shauna, and a single spinarak.
>np i'll just shauna and hope for the best
>shauna grabs 4 supporters and an energy
>concede go on 4chan and bitch
Does ptcgo do this shit on purpose?
My mons are 2x weak to psychic and 6/7 games I tried are against them.
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>>25063790
I swear you get a lot more bullshit when doing challenges. I loathe getting challenges of the colors I play because of that. Missed flips, shit hands, bad match ups, I've seen it all. Often in the same game
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>cataloging pokemon cards
>Start with base set
>Only missing 13 cards (11 if counting 2 heavily damaged cards)
>2 rare holos
>6 rares (3 pokemon, 3 trainer)
>3 uncommons (1 pokemon, 2 trainer)
>2 commons

huh. Neat. Didn't think it was that complete.

Now to catalog all the other sets!
kill me
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Guy right next to me pulled a secret rare.
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>>25063790
>concede on second turn

Why? Why quit?

I've played games, both pokemon and magic, where people insisted I quit, and others would have quit instantly, and in the end, I always ALWAYS asspull something and win.

You don't know if you're going to lose until you lose, man. That's half the fun.
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>>25063829
>not stealing it
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>>25062277
£3.90 for a promo blister, £9 for triple blister and £10 for three pack from Argos
speaking of Argos, where do they get the endless supply of reverse holo stoutland from black and white base set? There are 30 triple packs of AO each with that card[/spoiled]
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>>25063941
Buy tins from Amazon. 4 packs plus an EX promo for £12~ and they can be delivered to an Amazon Locker. That's £3.11 a pack plus the EX you can sell.
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>>25063973
Is chaos cards/magic madhouse good for unsealed packs? I seen magicmadhouse had a bundle of 4 packs for £10.45 on their eBay page before. I also got a breakthrough booster box from them and got 7 Ultra rare pulls including breaks
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>>25064019
Yes, they're trustworthy. Generally I would just wait and buy a booster box though, better value and guaranteed randomness.
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>>25063843
Hi there white knight.
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>>25063790
Then use a Fighting deck that's not weak to Psychic. Trade rares for a regular Landorus if you have to.
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>>25064120

The meaning of White Knight must have changed, because I'm lowkey calling him a cunt.
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>>25064019
irish here. I have bought from ChaosCards before single & boosters and no scaling happening as best I can tell. They seem to be a big enough operation that it's not like a one-man show selling through ebay weighing your packs. Delivery was quick and prices were fine.

Best for specific singles in Europe region is cardmarket.eu (but not boosters), since it's like a conglomerate of smaller sellers.
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>>25064320
The person who prolongs things that should end sooner are the cunts. Cunt anon
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Why am I getting such a hard time finding any store with some steel energy? Either they have 1-2 (need around 15) or they ask 1usd+ for each, which is a rip off
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How do I improve this deck?
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