>>25046048 Barry was probably the best rival, since he had some development to his already pretty good character, a good team, and he seemed like a real rival. Silver is second to him, since he had some development to his character too (mostly in HGSS, but whatever) and a good team, I don't care too much for asshole rivals though.
How the hell did the rival with the edgelordiest design ever and lines like "You're gonna feel my rage" somehow end up being the bro-est of bros? Come to think of it, I don't think he whined even once about not being able to beat me.
>Hear his sob story about Team Plasma stealing his sister's Purrloin >Think "Dude, there's literally nothing but Purrloins right outside of town. Catch another and be done with it." >Team Plasma straight-up says exactly this >Think "FINALLY, SOMEONE ACTUALLY ADDRESSES THE OBVIOUS SHIT" >Hear rest of the story about Purrloin >Feel bad
Blue without question. Blue and red actually seem to have a complex relationship. All the other rivals are either one dimensional edgemasters who want to be teh stronkest trainer! or one dimensional tutorial-tier friendly friends who just pop up here and there and say 'hey remember me, we're friends? Let's battle I have to test you lolololol. K bai.'
Blue is actually portrayed as both respecting of red, and insecure around him because he feels inferior to him, and compensating outwardly by the way he talks to him. It comes off as dickishness but it's really just a projection of his insecurity. I'd actually consider blue to be the most interesting and compelling character in any of the main series games completely.
>>25045967 Hugh's hardly an edgelord. You're calling him Sasuke because he has the same hair and eye color and because of the animated trailer. Hugh's just a bro older brother who really cares for his younger sister. He's a bit cocky and over-anxious, but that doesn't fit the Sasuke stereotype of "heh, I'm too cool" at all.
>>25047418 >Blue is actually portrayed as both respecting of red, and insecure around him because he feels inferior to him, and compensating outwardly by the way he talks to him. It comes off as dickishness but it's really just a projection of his insecurity. I'd actually consider blue to be the most interesting and compelling character in any of the main series games completely.
Major lol it seems you read too many fanfics. Blue is just a mean, cocky kid. Thats all there is to it. Nothing deep
I like Barry and Blue, but Silver's my favorite for being the first to have actual character development.
>starts out as a shadow-tier edgelord constantly in denial about being at fault for his losses >treats his pokemon like shit cause his dad treated him like shit >wonders why his stupid pokemon won't win battles for him >through battling with you and seeing your fighting spirit standing up to Team Rocket and fearlessly conquering the league, he realizes that maybe his way isn't the best after all >last time you fight him before the E4 he has a golbat >that fight serves as his breaking point and he finally accepts that he should treat his Pokemon better, love and respect them >then you fight him at Mt Moon and his Golbat evolved into Crobat (a friendship evolution)
>"Hey, guess what? I went to Bill's and got him to show me his rare Pokémon! That added a lot of pages to my Pokédex! After all, Bill's world famous as a PokéManiac! He invented the Pokémon Storage System on PC! Since you're using his system, go thank him! Well, I better go rolling! Smell ya later!"
Sounds like he's sincerely being friendly here and not dickish in the least. He's even accepting of his loss and for the first time not making excusing or brushing it off; "whoah take it easy! You won already!"
>"Bonjour! <player>! Imagine seeing you here! <player>, were you really invited? So how's your Pokédex coming? I already caught 40 kinds, pal! Different kinds are everywhere! Crawl around in grassy areas!"
This is on the SS Anne, again not being a dick and indeed offering advise. go actually play game maybe and check back into this thread.
>Blue is just a mean cocky kid, that's all there is to it.
So is he just mean or is he 'friendly yet mean'?
>You're really clutching at straws to prove Blue is some complictaed character. He isnt
I'm not 'clutching at straws' I'm providing evidence from the source material to support my interpretation. Blue is not 'mean' to red at any point in the game except arguably when he says "I'll tell her not to give you one". That depends on how you interpret it. If he's being serious, yeah he is being mean in this instance, if he just has an abrasive sense of humor and is being more sarcastic then it's not really being mean.
Before you even battle him for the first time he is at his most arrogant and confident in his superiority over you. You acts entitled and impatient toward his grandfather. He makes excuses for his losses during the first 2 or 3 battles, then more or less accepts losing while still trying to blow it off before finally accepting it fully after you defeat him for the final time. I'm not saying he's some Shakespearean character study I'm saying there is a lot more to him than the throw-away characters typical of the series.
>>25047748 You need to spot a deifference between "mean" (which means he like's to tease you and show he's better than you) from "evil". He's not evil, he's friendly in that sense he's not seriously standing in your way to harm you, he's not an enemy, yet he likes to show you you're not as good as him
If you dont know what "friendly mean" means i guess you dont have siblings and not even watching any anime
>>25047837 >For one, he gave no fuck about the Pokemon League and was doing his own thing. >He only fights you 3 times throughout the entire game (minus postgame) and two of those times were just to make sure you were strong enough for Team Plasma/Elite Four. >So in actuality, every rival is better than Hugh because they actually do the rivaling part of being a rival.
I could agree with this, actually. Hugh is not a worse character than the other rivals, but he's much less of a rival.
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