I played X/Y and found it pretty but lacking in challenge I

>>25043173
>gen 6
>challenge
Look elsewhere.

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>>25043173
play literally any other monster collecting game

>>25043185
Name those games, if you're so great.

>>25043292
SMT series
Digimon if you got a PS4 or Vita for Cyber Sleuths...or the Japanese 3ds if you prefer raising one individual at a time
Dragon Quest Monsters
Medabots (if you got a Japanese 3DS)
Moco Moco Friends
Fossil Fighters 3DS
Yo-kai Watch, notably 2
Final Fantasy Tactics
Jade Cocoon 2 if you're into old stuff, along with Monster Rancher.

There's probably still more out there

>>25043430
SMT IV is only $20 on amazon, i think i'll start training me some demons.

In turn-based menu-driven RPGs, the concept of challenge is pretty abstract in the first place.

>>25043721
Isn't every concept we use to measure enjoyment abstract?

>>25043744
What if there was a way to quantify fun?
What if there IS a way and we just haven't found it yet?

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>>25043185
is moco moco and good?
is it challenging?

>>25043430
>spoilers yo-kai watch
You were ashamed but you put it on there anyways, kek.

>>25046539
its more of a trigger warning desu

>>25043430
I also forgot Pocket Mortys on the list too, but then I remembered OP actually played the game.

So after this is likely Monster Strike on the 3DS (japan) and Ni no Kuni for PS3.
>>25043795
While it is more challenging than Pokemon, it is far more like a Pokemon clone than the others plotwise and mechanic wise. It also suffers from recolors adore, even topping YW's recolor of that fucking cat.

>>25043173
If you want a challenge, get Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate. Alternatively, you could wait until MHX comes to the West.

>>25049138
You mean you can raise monsters in that game? i thought you just kill them while your cat sidekicks do nothing

>>25049170
Oh. I just saw the words "monster," "challenging," and "game" and Monster Hunter just came to mind. And yeah, that's a pretty accurate summary of Monster Hunter

Weren't we getting a monster-raising game for Playstation? it was supposed to look like a GBC game and one of the monsters were scissors.

>>25043795
>try to find more gameplay videos of moco moco
>later results lead to something about lil moco and some shit
it probably isnt that good...

>>25049196
It's niche as fuck. Since there's no real advertising, not many people heard of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxyHjvk4mno
Unless you can search the name in Japanese, gameplay videos are hard to find

none of these games are challenging

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>>25049626
>SMT
>not challenging

>>25049626
the digimon one for psp does imply a bit of challnge since you gotta time your digimons training, but I won't deny that its kind of a disguised grindfest

>>25051207
>Babby's first weeb game
>Challenging